Is it mint but modern?
>>108729535don't be a bazzlet, be a cachychad
>>108729535Its fedora for people who cant be trusted running anything steam doesnt install for them automatically. Very handholdy and VERY annoying for anyone who wants to change things or install applications. Perfect for the majority of gamers. Mint users should just try cachy, fedora or nobara instead.
it's a gamer distro that assumes you have the iq of an average gamer, 90
It was FotM.Basically Fedora Kinote (silverblue but KDE) but with steam and lutris preinstalled as well as full codec support out of the boxIt's still good and very usable, but FotM has moved on to cachy I think.
>>108729569There are many ways to install applications on bazzite. There are just no ways to break your system when you do it. Best is to use flatpak or appimage. But there are also many applications that can be installed with ujust. If that isnt available you can use distrobox to install any Debian/fedora/arch application. If you actually need a package that needs to be deeply integrated within the system itself and isnt available with ujust, you can install it with rpm-ostree and it will just be like a dnf/rpm install but as an extra layer on top of the base OS.There are no packages I haven't gotten working with bazzite and there are no risks of breaking my system.This is a much better approach than using ppas, AUR or random rpm packages outside of your repository and having an OS update break your entire system or software package because of broken dependencies. It just requires a different approach.Only if you are an extreme tinkerer and don't mind your system breaking, you may be better off with a non atomic distro. Atomic distros are better for almost any other user.
>>108729535I use it for my DnD campaigns
the bazzite kernel is still at 6.17 (not even an lts kernel its just the old 6.17 kernel) and gets little to no changes because they fired their kernel maintainer who was the only person who actually had any sort of expertise. ignoring the security issues, people in general have been experiencing a lot of issues due to kyles retarded decisions. you may be lucky and have no issues but there are better distros out there
>>108729689they fired him because he didn't suck tranny cock and complaied about kyles retarded decisions (and would always have to fix shit because of them) mind you and its been totally down hill since. you can pinpoint everyone stopping talking about bazzite at that point
>>108729649Arch has not had a single system breaking update in years, and the one time it did with the splitting of the firmware packages it was announced ahead of time. Even rolling release distros like arch have testing repos believe it or not, there are package maintainers for a reason. At most you might get an error preventing you from updating if you are someone who constantly updates daily but it will be solved if you just wait a few hours and try again.Flatpaks are extremely bloated in size, you end up with multiple versions of the same software, some software can take multiple seconds to launch on a fresh boot, and they have an awful permission system that doesn't benefit anyone but a child. It's just an excuse to be lazy and is a step backwards. As if Bazzite doesn't constantly have issues after updates that require fixes posted in the discord, from what I've seen they have more issues than Arch.
>>108729689>bazzite kernel is still at 6.17
>>1087297496.19 is EOL, you should be on 7 (stable) or 6.18 (long-term) and you're not even on the latest 6.19.14 lmao what a joke distro
>>108729535Try CatchyOS, even if bazzite is like safe sex, I am afraid it's not for Gentoo alike. Gnome is comfy enough for me anyway.
>>108729815bazzsisters, we lost
>>108729535Very good immutable distro.> handholdingflatpak, brew, distrobox, podman, rpm-ostree> can I install arbitrary fedora packages into the system rootrpm-ostree> can I install arbitrary stuff into userspacebrew is preinstalled + you can install any other package manager like nix or guix + compile yourself> what if I need to gamedev with tricky dev dependencies I only have figured out on archdistrobox create --image archlinux --name arch-nvidia --nvidia
>>108729738> As if Bazzite doesn't constantly have issues after updates that require fixes posted in the discord, from what I've seen they have more issues than Arch.All of my post-update issues with Bazzite were exactly like this:> I've been using some advanced tinkering tool that most people don't care about, like toolbox or qemu> Bazzite decides to remove it in new version from normal edition and only leave it in DX> my shit is broken> I do a single rpm-ostree install to get shit back> it's fixedThere are many issues reported with tricky hardware, but I'm pretty sure it's just a consequence of all people with tricky gaming demands using Bazzite and they would have even more hardware issues elsewhere. Bazzite does a lot of custom hardware patches and firmware and everyone who wants this comes to Bazzite and in turn they report even more of tricky demands and issues. In many other distros it's all simply unsupported altogether.
>>108729865or you know, just install a normal distro like fedora which this is based on and deal with none of that shit?
>>108729912The main thing it would change for me is the need to install and configure more stuff myself.And all convenience it gives is allowing to run> dnf installinstead of > rpm-ostree installAnd I already have toolbox and distrobox if I want to play around with random dnf packages without reboot.
Ways for a Bazzite-chad to install applications:1- Flatpaks; mostly from Flathub/Bazaar, though there are some generic apps you can download from the Bazzite Portal app.2- Homebrew; has a large database for both GUI and non-GUI apps. You can use the Hardbrew console interface to select apps, or look up apps on the Homebrew website. To install type `brew install package-name` on the console or use the Hardbrew interface.3- Distrobox; simulate a non-Atomic distro in a container to build and use apps. The tricky part is creating and managing a distrobox, however this is now made easy with GUI tools (Kontainer and Distroshelf are pre-installed in Bazzite, though there is also BoxBuddy). Then you can type `distrobox enter name-of-distrobox` on console to use the distrobox.For example, you can simulate an Arch console with: `distrobox enter archbtw`, copy-paste an Arch app build instructions, and then use the GUI to export the app for your normal use.4- Layering packages onto the image; 'rpm-ostree install' instead of 'dnf install'. This is considered the last install option since the package will require a reboot to appear, and layering slows down updates (though the slowed update problem will get fixed in the near future with rechunking technology).The ujust command brings up a list of useful scripts, including one that automates the install process of DaVinci Resolve.The roadmap for Fedora is that Atomic Fedora will become the main default version of Fedora. Bootc (bootable image containers) will replace rpm-ostree, and the 'dnf install' command will be repurposed for layering RPM packages onto the image. A Fedora Atomic OS will be based on a Containerfile that acts as a blueprint/recipe, and it is planned to be easy for users to modify/build a custom Containerfile.
>>108729932>And all convenience it gives is allowing to run>> dnf install>instead of >> rpm-ostree installSee I tried doing rpm-ostree install steam on Aurora, because I didn't want all of the trash Bazzite came with. It was a fucking mess. I had to do a lot of overrides to end up arriving at some form of conflict when trying to overwrite a single file for which I read, and I was told "just install bazzite".
>>108729689At 6.19, with Open Gaming Collective patches. All the major 'gaming' distros, with exception of CachyOS, are part of the OGC. Though Cachy devs don't mind their patches getting cherry picked, or to collab on individual projects.Only distros without quality control (such as Arch and Ubuntu LTS) updates to the latest kernel within days of its release.>>108729738Aha, and you don't think the Universal Blue distros have testing repos?Flatpaks have the exact size they need. If there are duplicate dependencies between two Flatpaks, the newer Flatpak will require less size than normal.What you call multiple versions, is what you call 'dependency hell' and 'broken app after update' on Arch.Flatpaks can take a few more seconds to get going after a fresh boot, that is if you are on ancient hardware. It is closer to milliseconds on an SSD.Being able to revoke the access of a calculator app to your network and SSH keys is pretty useful.
>>108730003> A Fedora Atomic OS will be based on a Containerfile that acts as a blueprint/recipe, and it is planned to be easy for users to modify/build a custom Containerfile.So it will effectively become a declarative distro like NixOS and Guix. Very based.
>>108730130Never tried that, but look at my overlays here: >>108729865. Not a single one had any problems. I guess the issue with Steam is it has a lot of dependencies and they may also need to be overlayed. Also it expects certain oldschool Linux filesystem paths which might also be a problem. My conclusion would be, the easiest way to install Steam like that without relying on flatpak is distrobox: just make sure to create it with nvidia passthrough flag in case you use this gpu, amd will be passed through automatically. You can also "export" apps from distroboxes to easily create icon launcher without doing it manually. I forgot how that utility is called, I used it to export Unity game engine launcher from distrobox.
Mint is defective by design, this drm-ridden piece of trash is defective by ethics.
>>108729535It has nothing to do with mint. Mint looks like an older version of windows so it's easy to use for windows refugees. Bazzite is for gaymers. Yes you will have updated packages but your computer won't trust you to change it much. I also think most programs are flatpaks so it will be slower and bloated by default. More like fatfags. Isn't it better to install something like nobara instead if you are going with fedora?
whats the point of bazzite when cachy os exist?in most games - if not all of them - cachy os performs better.bazzite might be good for begginers but i dont see any other benefit
>>108731372stability
>>108731377this, anyone with a brain knows arch and its derivatives are unstable crap that will shit the bed on you sooner or later.
>>108729535It's infected with systemd and the birthDate field author is a contributor. >>108730740https://github.com/ublue-os/bazzite/releases/tag/44.20260429Half the team are Microsoft/Red Hat employees, and the OS treats you like a retard since you can't even install your own RPMs. They want you to brew/flatpak install everything. You should use something like Artix + XLibre for gaming and just install it yourself.Bazzite WILL implement age verification when Fedora does as confirmed by their devs saying they'll just pull in everything from them. Also, you don't need a "gaming OS". The whole idea is retared.
>>108729578More like the IQ of an average, unmelted popsicle.
>>108729649Don't worry, they'll break your system for you when a new release comes out and the Nvidia driver no longer works. AND since it's immutable, you can't fix it yourself. You played yourself. AppImage is also not supported well, with the main dev saying he hates them.
>>108729697Why is Kyle a retard? What did he do? I know he ripped out sunshine and replaced it with a broken version since he's too much of a pussy to version pin it.
>>108731462I've had my Arch system installed for years without issue. WTF are you talking about? As long as you're not on Nvidia you're fine.
>>108729912Nah, fuck Fedora. Artix is based and won't sell out to the US government. IBM has too much control in Fedora.
>>108732006https://discord.com/channels/1072614816579063828/1237926270151688192/1499542049794424844Look at him disagreeing with his own users and community.
I think I'm going insane trying to troubleshoot my jewvidia card on cachyos... Every time I boot my PC from a cold boot it has a white flash before plasma loads. I changed DE and loading animations and is still there only with a cold boot. If I use an open Nvidia driver it breaks everything, resolution goes to 800p so I can't use that. CachyOS live usb works for some reason. It has some magic sauce Nvidia driver. I probably will try Nobara or some Ubuntu distro if I can't fix this. Maybe jewvidia will work better.
>>108732155Go buy a 6900 XT and sell the Nvidia card to a bitcoin miner or something.
>>108729865qemu qemu-img qemu-kvmis that all that is needed for kvm?what about virt manager or other libvirt stuff. i never know how many packages aren needed.... secureblue had a ujust script for this but now they got libvirt in base so i dont think they have that anymore
>>108732000Nta but wtf are you going on about?How is this any different from windows or macos rekting it's own shit at update time then rushing to fix it in the next half update?What you're talking about is now catastrophic collapse of an os here.Go ahead and reply to me with more of this type of talk so I can start referring to you as based retard.
>>108729535its immutable fedora with preinstalled gaming shit like steam and graphics drivers. immutable meaning you cant break it
>>108732155I know this will sound really cliché, but I tell you unironically: Go install Mint. Try your setup there. Install the LTS nvidia driver 580 and try your stuff there.X11 + stable tested driver + lightweight no bs DE is a great way to bench test your system. Don't worry about having the best performance, just check that stuff works as it should.Then you can build up from there what the culprits are.
>>108732419X11 is compromised by Red Hat, use XLibre.
>>108732431That doesn't come to the point...The point is having an absolutely stable and tested foundation to test your stuff.
>>108729535No. Mint is still the gold standard for just works.Bazzite is a great idea but it's currently in the middle of its make it or break it phase. Let's let it mature bit.
>>108730003these distros strike me as the ultimate grandma distrothe end game I assume is to take over chromebook marketshare (schools)?
>>108732341> rpm-ostree install libvirt qemu qemu-img qemu-kvmSource: https://github.com/ublue-os/bazzite/issues/4771> virt managerI installed it from Bazaar
>>108729535it's good. definitely better than Mint (most distros are)but obviously better than CachyOS for the regular useronly a moron would recommend something that updates everyday to a normie
>>108729535its cachyos but worse
>>108729535SNCA, the OS
>>108732478>the end game I assume is to take over chromebook marketshare (schools)?I thought it was filling the space in the absence of the official launch of SteamOS (which some seems to think it's a prerogative to switching to gaming on Linux?)
Seems like a LAN cafe or library's dream. Without sudo/root access you basically couldn't do anything to fuck it up.
anon found a weird forum, feels like early internet againno filters, people just post whateverlink is on twitter:https://x.com/BytePepe0not sure how long it stays up
>>108729749There were on 6.17.7 until just a few days ago, that's a long-ass time. Now they're on a version that is still vulnerable to that copy fail exploit, as it wasn't fixed until 6.19.12.
>>108729535>Redpill me on BazziteImagine SteamOS, it's ready to gayme, but Bazzite covers even more edge cases, niche stuff and broader hardware configs. It's reliable, offers rollback and you can still install system packages with rpm-ostree install xxx / or .rpm.It's a fine distro, the devs even hold back updates if there is some sort of regression from fedora. It's just "immutable" (atomic / rpm-ostree actually) and that's different compared to regular distros, which isn't bad per se, but can limit online resources. BUT bazzite takes care of so much shit, that 90% don't even need to layer stuff and the people that have to layer shit, are prolly smart enough to figure out rpm-ostree, distrobox and brew. Otherwise, Flatpak is completely fine, because the base install covers pretty much "everything" even "difficult stuff" is bundled with "ujust" commands for easy installs.I don't use this distro, but I like to recommend it. Automatic updates when idle, applied on reboots. Perfect set it and forget it distro. I'm not a bit fan of derivatives and forks, but thats a personal issue.
>>108729535I get the appeal of having an immutable/atomic distro for something like a handheld or emulation machine or whatever where you want to OS to just stay in the background. Basically an Android replacement. But it seems incredibly pointless for a personal computer which is supposed to grow and change along with you.
Plays all my games and VRR just werks Not sure what more there is to say.
>>108729535it's fedora but retarded but also not retarded
>>108732097any distro will immediately sell out once feds with "work with us or we find cp on your dev machines" show up. It's all glowing, might as well pick the "working glow"
>>108729569What are you installing constantly? Another *tips-fedora* console text-editor?Nigga, all you need is wine to install some real productivity apps like Photoshop.
>>108729535You don't need any special linux distro to game on linux. I just 100% Pragmata on Manjaro.
>>108732419I already have mint on my laptop with my important stuff. Desktop is for CachyOS and shitty windows games.
>>108733238Old news.
>>108729535>>108729548bazzite, cachyos, and omarchy (though dhh is based) are just distros new linux users recommend each otherwhen someone recommends you these, please remember they're clueless too
>>108729548I prefer 'bazzussy'
