>>108733871
>debian-based
into the trash it goes, keep this unstable out of my way

>>108733871
I've been using it for years without any problems, it's just Debian without systemd.

>>108733871
It seems to me that the problem with systemd is not its design, it's the developer's attitude toward suggestions. Instead of making distros without systemd, why not fork systemd and make the changes everyone wants?

>>108734902
systemd is bloat
sysvinit just werks
if you want more features, the other inits you can use are still leagues better than bloatd

>>108733871
if you have to ask, then probably not

>>108733871
just go with Void

>>108735849
>bleeding edge trash

>>108734902
no one wants to have to deal with the endless bikeshedding that would result from people arguing about how much of systemd to trim away
and that's ignoring how much of a massive maintenance burden a fork would be

>>108735889
just works and has just worked for years. enjoy distrohopping.

>>108735906
>just works and has just worked for years
devuan? indeed, for a decade now. unlike bleeding edge trash, you'll never get an update wrecking your whole system out of nowhere

>>108735916
Rolling release distros just give you a series of minor annoyances over time. Debian-based distros wait until you're feeling complacent and then kill themselves in the most gruesome and least expected way possible.

>>108735916
Not once has a Void upgrade wrecked my system. I update every few months, so it updates 200+ packages at a time, totaling 2-3GB. As I said, just works.

>>108735931
>minor annoyances
having to always keep a separate rescue image ready in case an update goes sideways is NOT a minor annoyance, it's a deal breaker.

>>108734902
>the problem with systemd is not its design
Good one

>>108736007
Do you not know what backups are? And why would you not keep a rescue live USB handy anyhow?

>>108736030
>spend hours restoring backups and then reconfiguring shit that you changed since the snapshot
how about I just keep using a stable distro that doesn't push unvetted updates that brick my system? if I wanted to suffer with updoots I'd just go back to winblows