>buy one of these fucking things since I just wanted "a printer that works">expected hassle free basic level printing with zero maintenance or problems (i mean this is the most basic bitch printer you can have right)>works fine for couple months>now it suddenly started detecting one of the replacement cartridges as non-original/counterfeit>wont print anything until i replace them with fucking original HP cartridges, which are 75% of the price of the printer per set What the fuck is thisSince when printers even do something like this? And why did noone warn me not to buy HP lol
>>108733980there is a button combination that you press down that circumvents thisyes printers are a massive scam
>>108733980>And why did noone warn me not to buy HP lolBecause the warnings were there for the last two decades alongside Canon printers?
>>108733980HP have been widely known to be the Jews of the printer business for years nowYour fault for buying their products rather than a laser printer
>>108733989>yes printers are a massive scamHow to get out of the printer botnet then? Can't really use printer services since you have to send them the actual unencrypted files, and they can see and do whatever they want with the things you send them
>>108734021>Your fault for buying their products rather than a laser printerPrice of a color laser printer is the price of ink one + 8-10 year supply of ink
>>108733980>Why did noone warn meYou've had a decade of warnings, but still chose to give money to (((Weisler)))
>>108733980shoulda bought a brother, brother
>>108733980I'm a sysadmin. After banning HP printers in 2022 printer tickets to the help desk went down 30% and the length of the tickets went down 50%. HP smart is a crime against humanity.
>>108734069spbphttps://www.theverge.com/tech/641940/best-printer-2025-just-buy-a-brother-laser-printer-middle-finger-in-the-air> I have been recommending people buy whatever Brother laser printer is on sale for three years now, and no one has ever gotten mad at me about it. My own Brother laser printer, whose model number I no longer remember and do not care about, has been operating flawlessly for nearly 10 years now. We use it to print return labels for things we’ve purchased online in a losing effort to dull the pain of modernity, and my wife is a lawyer, a job that requires printing documents and scowling at them several times a day. We have replaced the toner once in that time, and it has never asked me to sign up for a subscription or fallen off the WiFi.> This is the third year in a row that I’ve published a story recommending you just stop thinking about printers and buy whatever random Brother laser printer is on sale, and nothing has happened in the miserably user-hostile printer industry to change my recommendation in that time. (There has been some controversy about third-party toner in Brother printers, but it appears it still works fine.)> But even though the answer is the same, making sure this information is at the top of Google’s search results is a dogfight against a number of ruthless content farms that are flatly better at pumping search engines with garbage to generate affiliate revenue than we are, because our newsroom insists on the archaic concepts of “dignity” and “self-respect.”
>>108734037>Price of a color laser printer is the price of ink one + 8-10 year supply of inkStop lying, ShlomoCheapass shitty HP inkjet printer: £60HP ink: 6.49 per month; 8 years = £614Total £674Good quality Brother colour laser printer: £201
>>108733980Should have bought one with refillable ink tanks. They are more expensive for a reason.
>>108734091>hi I need a multi function scanner, printer, copier for documents and color photos>dude just buy a monochrome laser
>>108734110buy a monochrome laser and a photo printer, then
>>108734125a monochrome laser won't let me copy color documents without a computer
>>108734033Holy yikes this place is chudmaxxed >>108734090Kinda sounds like you are a technician
>>108734033wtf are you printing anyways that needs to be encrypted ?? and why are you even printing it
>>108734096My country:Brother color laser printer 282 usdvs HP Deskjet color printer 41 usdHP original cartidges 35 usd I dont expect changing them more than once per year, and with seasonal discounts and whatever its ~10 years of ink printing before it accumulates to ~300 usd
>>108734033>since you have to send them the actual unencrypted filesLook at this anon, not even aware all modern printers use the yellow in cartridges to create fingerprint patterns in any printed documented that ties back to your specific printer.
>>108734157Oh, also laser printer mentioned doesnt have the scanner either, so its a poor choice doubly
So what the fuck is the correct choice for 3in1 printer? Brother ink printer? Does that also have some hidden cunt mechanisms like HP?
>>108734179One that has ink *tanks* rather than cartridge shit, so you can refill with massively cheaper bottles.
>>108733980>Gigajew company>Cheap productWhat did you expect
There's currently a big deal on an hp printer right now at a nearby office supply store. It's a bundle deal and with the paper, the cable, and the 2 year warranty it costs $112 cad. I hate hp with a passion, but is the company so bad that it's not even worth buying? The Printer is an officejet 8125e. It's either this or the brother work smart MFC-J1410DW, and yes it has to be a colour printer.
>>108733980>work replaces owned printers with leased printers>take printer home>just works>can use any cartridge you want. It only complains once like a bitch when you power it on that it didn't detect an original cartridge chipThese budget printers are a scam. Disposable printers is what they are.
>>108734159>SOMEONE WILL KNOW WHICH PRINTER I USED>OH NO HOW TERRIBLEWhat the fuck are you trying to print bro? Who the fuck cares if they know which printer I used how will that help?>he used printer model with serial number>okay where is it?>we have no fucking ideaUseful.
>>108734603>he doesnt know about the tracking device
>>108733980>buy one of these fucking things since I just wanted "a printer that works">expected hassle free basic level printing with zero maintenance or problems
>>108734603>>okay where is it?you realize it's trivial for law enforcement niggers to find out who originally bought the printer and who it was sold off to?
>>108733989>there is a button combination that you press down that circumvents thisWhich is whatTried out the combinations from google, didnt work
>>108734096>Good quality Brother colour laser printer: £201Second hand product doesn't count
Use case for a printer?>return labelsGet the post office to do it
>>108734569Could I get an answer?
>>108734933what kind of answer were you hoping for in response to an obvious joke?
Inkjets are ewaste. I’ve seen laser printers that have printer half a million pages. A good laser printer will last you for a long time. In the same time frame you’ll have went through multiple inkjet printers
>>108734110Not sure why he said a laser printer specifically, Brother printers are good in general. I've owned a DCP-T500W since circa 2017, an ecotank model, and it has always worked fine. OEM ink was so reasonably priced that I only switched to third party when the stationery and office supplies shop next block stopped stocking it
>>108734960Some advice?
>>108734598They're not a scam. You just gotta have an IQ above 80. I printed with a cheap ass $30 Canon on a single set of cartridges for 5 years by refilling them. Then bought another pair of second hand cartridges and kept going for another 5. You just gotta know how to refill them, or how to set up a continuous system if you're too lazy to refill.
>>108733980>Since when printers even do something like this?Probably the last 15 or 20 years now. HP is one of the worst offenders of this shit. Brother makes a tank based printer where you just add ink to a tank and it prints. That's it.
>>108734179I have a brother and it's shit. Black ink xl is like 120 bucks. Just replaced all drums and it wants new ones after 1 week. It bitches and moans if you use non oem. Refuses to print if you run out of a colour or in my case don't have brand new drums. The software is retarded so it's guessing what your toner levels are at so I have to babysit it during print jobs so I don't comeback to 1k jobs that are smeared or faded. When I put a new toner in I have to test print at least 5 times to make sure nothing got on the roller drum or it will have lines on thousands of sheets of paper. It's so annoying now that it's cheaper to buy a new printer than deal with this shit.
>>108734603>i'm a useless parasite who obeys all of the tyrant's dictates and have absolutely nothing useful to contribute to society>so I don't fear being tracked>now why is my son trans>>108734618Second hand market, faggot
>>108733980>buy one of these fucking things since I just wanted "a printer that works"Why the fuck did you do that? You should have got a Brother laser printer ffs
>>108734110just take a photo with your phone
>>108734157Good luck finding original cartridges in 10 years. They will be considered "retro tech" and will sell for premium prices.
>>108734144faggot>>108734146graphics design material is usually given on a per-basis license
>>108733980>And why did noone warn me not to buy HP lolHuge Pain.I get the printer hate, especially for HP. But almost every printer has IPP, no drivers required, print from your fucking PC, Phone ... everything. Just be on the same WiFi.HP printers are fine, as long as you don't get the model with an "e" at the end. And if it's not clearly a subscription based printer, they HAVE to allow 3rd party ink.>now it suddenly started detecting one of the replacement cartridges as non-original/counterfeitCould be an automatic update, maybe? Are you from the EU? You can go on your printers local host website and disable the toggle "only allow HP certified toners" I know this is fucked up and I hate it, but printing isn't as bad, as it used to be... why can't there be a fucking Open Source printer?
>hpYou deserve it No one here would recommend such trash company
>buys printers from a company famous for fucking you over with ink>surprised it fucks you over with ink
>>108734021>Hey printer, can you print this grayscale image?>Sure, lemme mix CMY for you
>>108734004>alongside Canon printers?Really?I have two and both work fine, was it specific models?
>>108734033How the fuck would you encrypt a printed paper?Are you printing money?
>>108734263Pretty much thisWorst case you can flush the tank and tubes with IPA to clean any clogs
So what’s the best home printer brand?
>>108734569Anything with ink cartridges is worthless.
>>108734091This is the correct answer and matched my experience as well. t. have 10 year old brother laser printer used daily for ecommerce>>108734110I've yet to find an all-in-one that isn't a flaming pile of shit with gimped interfaces. As for color printing, I think you need to review your needs. Any home color print is so garbage that I outsource it.
>>108733980I'm loathed to give you a (You) but it here you are. It has been like this for decades mate. It started off in the 2000's when it was a standing joke that the printer cartridges cost more than the printer. HP locked down their printers years ago and force the user to sign up for an expensive ink subscription. The authorities won't do fuck all about it as it's not a monopoly and most users put up with it. I haven't owned a printer for a while now and when I do need to have a document printed I use my office machine. If you need a printer, go for a decent second hand Brother manufactured from the early 2010's to around 2021 as they're rock solid and accept generic 3rd party cartridges or ink refills without machine complaint. The latest models complain about poor ink and print quality when you use third party ink but they'll still print whilst HP machines will just lock up and tell you to go fuck.
>>108734968>i've seen laser printers that have printer half a million pagesLying makes little baby Jesus cry.
My $100 Brother printer has saved me money in 3 years just by not having ink that dried up and needed replacing because I didn't use it for 9 months.
>>108736321>Lying makes little babyI have a laser that lasted two years before I had to change out the drum. Never clogged, never gave me any problems. Anon is right, Inkjets are a fucking scam.
>>108736389Is the color quality shit though?
>>108734033>How to get out of the printer botnet then?you know, printer problems literally pushed him to create free software movement so maybe take a hint
>>108734146I just don't want the service owner to have a permanent, unencrypted copy of the document I sent them to print.>>108736169You are retarded. I'm just saying I can't send an encrypt a document to the printing service because they wouldn't be able to print it like that. Therefore, I would have to send an unencrypted file, and they could do with that file as it were theirs. In any case you CAN encrypt paper documents, retard. Encryption doesn't always have to be digital >>108736548Yes I know
So basically, all inkjets are a problem, but laserjets are expensive. What about the inkjets with bottles?
>>108736614>you CAN encrypt paper documentsshow us
>>108736661You can get a good monochrome laser printer for like 300 dollars.
>>108735096>bro printer drm just doesn't exist what are you talking about ur just dum
>>108736274>I'm loathed to give you a (You) but it here you are.Good for you princess
>>108737111Go suck a dick you trannie cunt.
>>108737021Yes, but i need a colour printer.
>>108734263this, old epson still prints fine on cheap ink
>>108734096I went with the HL-L3300CDWI at least need a flatbed scanner.
>>108737294You can still get a color laser printer for around 300
You all talk about how bad HP isThe truth isCanon is even worse
>>108737336Yes, but that is expensive, which is why I'm considering to put up with hp's shit for a $60 printer. It usually goes for around $215, but it's currently on sale where I'm at.
>>108737376How bad?
>>108734102Non-replaceable print heads hardly last a one tankful with print quality intact and now they are forcing you to buy a DRM-infused box of cotton swab with 10000% profit instead.
>>108733980>hassle free basic level printing with zero maintenance or problems>HP
>>108734968I still have Canon LBP-4u laser from 1993. It's slow as hell, but the print quality in limits of the 300dpi resolution is awesome unlike some of the newer ones where the output even with original cartridges is hazy gray.
>>108736242>I've yet to find an all-in-one that isn't a flaming pile of shit with gimped interfaces.Ricoh makes good ones.
I bought a 20 year old brother laser printer for 100 bux and it prints like a motherfucker for what is basically free.
>>108736198a budget Brother laser printer should last a decade with minimal maintenance, 3rd party toner and drums are cheap and safe to useif you want colour, take epson into consideration as wellfor office, kyocera is no brainer
Get a 1990s dot matrix printer that uses a serial port and an ink ribbon.
