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There are a bunch of distros based on it which at best makes thing faster to setup

Artix Linux: for people who dislike systemd (seems to be mostly for philosophical/political reasons rather than any benefit for the end user)

EndeavourOS: it's fine but archinstall made it close to redundant

CachyOS: when i tested linux-cachyOS i discovered that i was able to use less ram (61600 MiB instead of 62800 MiB) for stressapptest for reasons that are unclear to me. You might be better of just switching back to the standard Arch Linux repos and packages after installing.

opensuse tumbleweed or fedora based: not as up to date as Arch Linux but might be more stable. You are probably better off on an Arch Linux (based) system if you actually know what you are doing.

debian: doesn't make sense outside of servers due to how outdated it is.

FreeBSD: very limited software support and is mainly used (abused) by corporations like sony because of the more permissive license (such as for the PS5).
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>>108734188
>due to how outdated it is.
still new. come back in 5 year, we'll be reaching the classical period.
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>>108734188
>not as up to date as Arch Linux but might be more stable. You are probably better off on an Arch Linux (based) system if you actually know what you are doing.
Most people fool themselves into thinking they need latest-and-greatest. They don't.
There's also something to be said for something that doesn't need to be tweaked much. Minimalism is overrated if you're not running on a toaster.
>debian: doesn't make sense outside of servers due to how outdated it is.
Hard disagree. If you're running the latest release (or testing or sid), your software is only going to be a few years old tops. That might sound like a lot but this isn't the 00's where tons of new features are being added all the time. Software that's a few years old is very serviceable. It's nice to use shit that's had eyes and time to work out the bugs and is reliable, even on a desktop.
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I have a feeling that it's just a question of time before redhad shoots themselves into the foot (enshittification tends to happen with anything managed by a corporations) and right now it seems like fedora and similar distros are being proped up by them.
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>>108734188
>Arch Linux - Is there even any better alternative?
macos
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>>108734188
>2026
>still not using guix
Declarative
Functional
Lisp
No systemd
Easy to package your own stuff

You people are like cavemen playing with sticks and rocks.
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I'm currently taking a look at coming back to Fedora (it was my first distro), as well as Rocky Linux and AlmaLinux. I'm basically looking for a good, suitable distro for a 3D workstation and I currently have a feeling that a RHEL-compatible distro would be great since a lot of 3D software is tested on and recommends it.
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>>108734188
>debian: doesn't make sense outside of servers due to how outdated it is.

>Hurr durr you have dinosaur packages
As long as the stuff i'm using works (which is the ENTIRE FUCKING POINT of the distro) i don't care how many years it takes them to update it.
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>>108734350
>muh abandonware so good use it!!!
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>>108734387
Fedora is solid. Up to date without being right on the bleeding edge, good community, reliable system.
Key is just to stay away from the newest releases for the first month or two.
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>>108734350
this
Every time I see someone use a non-declarative """distro""" in 2026 I die from cringe.
>>108734392
It's rolling release and I'm getting daily updates for my packages. WTF are you talking about? You literally just made that up.
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>>108734429
Declarative distros are for performative retards except when used in strict circumstances for professional use, which guix isn't.
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>>108734429
>looks up basic software
>forced to install alternative or gnu version
>not supported by ""superior"" package manager according to anon
>disappointed face
am I supposed to applaud you now?
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>>108734445
It has allowed me to configure my compute environment once and not give a fuck ever again. Every time I get a new device I'm up and running within 10 minutes. Meanwhile archtards have to pacman every single software they use, install their services, and configure software from scratch again and again and again on every single one of their devices. And hunt down remaining files after uninstalling something, have to perform env var magic manually when two different version of the same program is required to be installed because they are both used by different programs, not being able to roll back if something breaks (which happens every day btw), etc. etc.
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>>108734460
Don't tell me you unironically can't package a software. It's all just Guile Scheme.
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>>108734461
nta

>if something breaks
never happened to me lol, you are probably just a retard
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>>108734461
You can declaratively write an install script in bash, retard.
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>>108734461
>BRO I NEED NIXOS FOR MY ELECTRON APPS!
brainrotted zoomie
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>>108734484
That's not declarative but imperative. Read a book, you don't know what words mean.
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>>108734481
>There exists a chain of user actions which will result in a probability of the system breaking of 0.000000%
Ok, statistics master
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>>108734494
>brings up Electron apps from nothing
>brings up NixOS from nothing
Mental illness
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>>108734350
Furthermore, I looked into how guix is setup
>https://guix.gnu.org/manual/devel/en/html_node/Using-the-Configuration-System.html

>is a nix clone
>muh package manager is so PEAKKKK

ok ill stick to the traditional way i dont need nix cuckery and not the fake version either
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>>108734511
K.
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>>108734496
Look how imperative it is!
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>>108734350
Unfortunately, I'm retarded.
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>>108734188
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>>108734350
>Easy to package your own stuff
Okay, I'll bite. How you would package your own stuff, for example an application or a driver that does not exist on their repositories?
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>>108734553
Where do you learn all this? Teach me, master.
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>>108734188
>seems to be mostly for philosophical/political reasons rather than any benefit for the end user
systemd is much slower than every other init system in existence
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>>108736237
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A lot of people do dislike systemd but unless you can actually get faster boot time with something else i don't think many people will be interested in actually switching (distro maintainers and individual users).

https://cubepath.com/docs/comparison-guide/systemd-vs-sysvinit-vs-openrc
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>>108735140
https://guix.gnu.org/cookbook/en/guix-cookbook.html#Packaging-Tutorial
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I have seen a lot of people switch to fedora based distros lately. It's surprising a such corporate distro hasn't enshittified yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eb8V04syDMs

Honestly i think i rather just stick to Arch since that will provide updates significantly faster. Recently got the LACT 0.9.0 which added support for making a custom VF-curve for the GPU.
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Switched from Arch to NixOS, should take a look at GUIX.
All other distros feel like legacy distros.
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>>108734188
gentoo like we've been telling you for decades
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I've been on Tumbleweed for three years now, and can attest that it's decent, but the community and its developers remain aggressively ignorant of the need for 3rd party codecs. They talk endlessly about how stable the system is, but without Packman, your whole system will be half flatpaks and appimages, and then they'll say, "your system wouldn't break if you used it as intended." But it works, as long as you're content waiting on a zypper dup for 1-2 weeks every few months for the update conflicts to be cleared. BTRFS is also awesome. It's occasionally a bit hard to find the package you're looking for and everything is named differently. Everything.
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>>108739626

Having to rely a lot on appimages and flatpaks on a rolling distro seems like the worst or both worlds to be honest.



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