"Universal" Serial BusRidiculous! We need to develop ONE Universal standard that covers everyone's use cases.
>>108738077looks like you just did
>>108738077>"Universal" Serial Bus>not actually universalLegally speaking, why is this allowed?
>>108738077The most nasty thing with USB4 is that TB-PCIe support is completely optional.
>>108738118only amd uses usb4
>>108738138Exactly, that's why I rather get Intel.
>>108738077just label them properly
>can't legally use different connectors to differentiate use cases
>>108738077You forgot Thunderbolt 5 which provides 120Gbps.
Nothing made by apple Ever. The EU is 100% right o this shit and the apple scam of selling overpriced 'special' wires and 'adaptors' and batteries that can't be swapped can just get the fuck out If it's not a standard for USB that came from https://www.usb.org/Then fuck off it is not USB.
>>108738337By the way faggotsThunderbolt is a proprietary hardware interface developed by Intel, not a standard of the USB-IF (USB Implementers Forum). Same for any apple shit.
>>108738231>overpriced jeet shit (I typod Canada)
>>108738348> thunderboltOf which, apple helped them implement because apple invented a lot of the technology. They just didn’t want to fab it, and didn’t want the standard to be always proprietary—apple had a 1 year *exclusive* though.> USB-CWhich was originally called “Lightning” before a lot of usb-c’s technology was allowed to be copied from one of the usb-c’s group’s founding member’s patents: namely Apple.The EU’s fine is about as stupid as their rage over the fact that iMessage texts are blue—they were doing to do usb-c anyway, and it was well established in apple laptops already. I would have just stopped selling iPhones in europe for a while so they can all have Chinese xaomi phones and see how they like it. Where’s the eu invented phone? Nowhere, that’s where.> firewire…. Same thing.> ARM…. Same thing. Apple added so much to ARM they basically invented it and have an unlimited founder’s license. It usually appears in ARM specs for other licensors in a year or two.
>>108738118Name one implementation that doesn't support TB-PCIe.
>>108738077>ONE Universal standard that covers everyone's use casesYou literally posted a photo of Thunderbolt 4 so I dont know what your problem is
>>108738348Everything in thunderbolt 4 is in USB4.Thunderbolt at this point is just a certification rather than anything specific to Intel.
>>108739805That was the joke retard
>>108738109It's a universal standard that has simply gone through multiple iterations, you fucking retard.
>>108739805Name three widely-adopted standards that directly compete with USB.
>>108739938Don't worry the EU will make them illegal
>>108738077> Universal Shit Bus.Also, did you know that USB was originally designed by a Jeet.
>>108738118Linus Sex Tips goes out of the way to test random devices that don't advertise that on the USB4 ports but they do have that.
>>108738077The same cable and port doesn't need to support a mouse and 80Gbps and 100 watts of electricity. The problem with USB is that they crammed a bunch of different standards into a single package and there's no simple way to determine which cables support which standards just from looking at them. Having a different connector for a mouse or keyboard and for 4k, high framerate video is perfectly fine.
>>108739979Thanks EU!
>>108739952So you can't.I'm disappointed - I was expecting at least one retard to start rattling off legacy interfaces from the 70s and 80s that used to be popular but are dead.
>>108738118Wait until you find out that even the ability to transfer data at all is technically optional with the newest versions of the spec :^)
>>108740068Well, RS232 is still popular in industrial applications, and my work uses serial over Cat5 to transmit data for a couple things.
>>108739938EasyUSB 2, USB 3, and USB 1.1
>>108738077Congrats anon, you did
>>108738077>Connect two random devices via USB>Just werksHaving different speeds doesn't really matter as long as everything is backward compatible.
>>108739979I charge my wireless mouse with the same cable I use to dock my laptop.Why would I want multiple incompatible connectors?
>>108738077>leaving out the alt modes>>108740143>Having different speeds doesn't really matter as long as everything is backward compatible.Unless you're expecting it to carry a video signal or charge your device.
>>108740185>Unless you're expecting it to carry a video signal or charge your device.Works on my machine.Maybe don't buy shitty cables?
>>108738231I literally just bought a 4€ chinkshit aliexpress cable and it also has the speed/wattage rating printed on it...what's special about this ltt bullshit?
>>108740684>what's special about this ltt bullshit?Nothing. It's all marketing.
>>108738077>universal>falls out of EVERYTHING
>>108738077they're just wires bro plug them in
>>108738658AMD