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What working space do you prefer?
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>>108738333
cubicles, I can't stand the other faggots
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>>108738333
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I don't consider "shared table" a "working space". It's so fucking retarded.
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real cubicles have never been tried
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>>108738417
i don't like when you can get ambushed from behind
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>>108738417
Indeed
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>>108738333
my home office and my lab bench
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>>108738333
That is not working
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dynamic cubicles are the sweet-spot.
Each Wagie can adjust how much he wants to be closed off or exposed.
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>>108738333
Not my problem because I work from home.
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>>108738426
how else can management micro manage you?
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>>108738349
Boy, that was nice while it lasted.

>>108738837
Who's that in the middle, the prison warden?
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>>108738333
a normal room with 4 people like its normal human being.
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>>108738333
I code in bed, in my underwear
when I need a second screen I grab an ipad
occasionally I work on the desktop but no more than 20% total
>zoom
idc still in bed
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>>108738333
When we moved buildings, we also changed from full height cubes to half wall cubes. We didn't like it. Even with white noise generators, you could hear so much more. At least you had privacy with the half walls, but full cube walls were peak comfy and maximum privacy. When someone came to see you, your conversations stayed much more private.
It doesn't matter now since I switched companies and have worked from home for years now.
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>>108738333
WFH is far, far superior.
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>>108738333
my own office, or at least high walled cubicles.

I worked with some people with low walled cubicles. fuckers always talking to you, could not get anything done.
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>>108738347
I love my coworkers and we do a ton of work together but it's also nice to be able to control whether or not you're in eachother's space by sliding the chair forward/backward.

The other way is extremely retarded.
>>108739072
They automate it with Jira these days.
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>>108739103
Ultimate bed setup (I did WFH for five years and still code at home for side projects):
Get some head mounted display glasses (not the full face cover ones, the sun glasses) preferably one with a magnetic connector so it can survive you sleeping/shifting around.
Get a bluetooth mechanical keyboard and bluetooth trackball. Don't bother with backlit keys, you won't be able to see it, just get good at touch typing.

Preferably stick to highly ergonomic keyboard driven software (vim, cwm etc.) If you have to do CAD put on pants and go to the armchair in the living room for the CAD session.
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>>108738333
cubes so I can decorate it with anime girls and pick my nose in privacy
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>>108738333
I've never worked in a cubicle but it sounds so nice to have private space
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>>108739185
my scrum master the other day told me Jira is not meant for micromanaging
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>>108738417
kinda like real communism
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>>108738333
Cubicles, I can't believe that all those old faggots complained about them. Now when I get to work there are 5 rows of giant tables where everyone just works next to each other. I would kill to have an actual cubicle.
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>>108739390
>I would kill to have an actual cubicle.
Are wagies even human?
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>>108739079
>Boy, that was nice while it lasted
What do you mean? WFH is still the default
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>>108738837
>wagecage but jetsons
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>>108738467
kek
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>>108739079
indian cEO saar, calculating if he can fit 10 jeets into 1 station
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where is the panopticon layout?
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>>108739571
>jetsons
Yeah I wish I could wageslave like George Jetson, having to press a button repeatedly for 4 hours a day while sitting in a chair, earning enough money to support a house, car, wife, 2 kids, robot maid, and a dog.
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>>108738837
>go to work
>get run over by wage cage
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>>108738347
Dis nigga implying he a faggot
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>>108738417
Has anyone tried to add verticality onto wagiepod layouts? We could cram so many more goys into that wasted space
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>>108738333
Cubicles are illegal in my country because the lack of sunlight caused depressions and suicides.
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>>108740139
>your surviving relatives receive an invoice for the clean up costs and downtime of Rajeesh Diskshit Sukdeep's wage cage
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>>108738333
3: actual rooms
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>>108740299
What do the nightshifters do in your warehouses? Jump into the rollers under the conveyors?
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>>108738467
within cells interlinked
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>>108739237
Agile cultists are always contradicting themselves
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>>108738417
It makes me irrationally angry that 945 has five walls for no reason where everyone else has four.
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>>108738333
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>>108738426
>>108739072
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>>108739390
Cubes got rightfully shittalked because they were a downgrade from proper offices. And then they intentionally misinterpreted the issue and cheaped out further with open offices.

I miss my high wall cube, it was super cozy. Then got a FAANG job and had to deal with non-stop meetings in an open office.
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>>108738426
Back when I worked in a cubicle, I had a pressure sensitive mat under a rug near the door. If someone stepped on the mat, a rotating strobe would come on and a USB missile launcher would swivel towards the mat. I had arranged my horizontal filing cabinet to create a narrow bottleneck for anyone entering my cube. I wanted to have it pop up a fake screen on my monitor to hide whatever I was doing but never got around to doing that part.
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>>108741296
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>>108738333
I have my own office. Public sector work pays less, but I enjoy not having to worry about kikes trying to bleed every little bit of productivity out of you
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>>108741554
The guy who invented the cubicle was very depressed over how companies perverted them into what they eventually became.
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Open work spaces are nothing new. The Johnson Wax Building by Frank Lloyd Wright did it back in the 1930s and was considered a huge upgrade over the long benches of a secretarial pool in most businesses.
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>>108741731
What did people before the Internet do to slack off at work? Did they actually work for 8 hours straight? It must have been absolute hell.
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>>108738333
"offfices"
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>>108741731
s o v l
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>>108742045
They talked to each other.
Terrifying, right?
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>>108738349
/thread
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>>108742088
But that's something the boss could easily see and tell you to stop talking. Can't read books either because he can see that too. At least in a web browser it looks like I'm working.
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These people who have loved to have had a cubicle.
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I fucken hate my landscape office with its 'flexdesk policy' and never enough phone booths and meeting rooms
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@108741631
>things that happened in anon's head
you're not getting a (You), liar.
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>>108742045
smoke breaks
water-cooler conversations
lunch
smoke breaks
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Cubicles are great, nothing drives me up a wall like people watching over my sholders or from the side.
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>>108738333
my own office, why would i share it with someone or be crammed in a corner kek
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The agile manifesto and its scrum-sequences have been a disaster for software engineering.
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>>108738333
I actually just did the opposite move. My team used to be in an open office floorplan like on the right where I sat right next to my boss, and now we all got shuffled around the campus and my team is in a building where everyone has not just cubicles but individual offices
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>>108738333
Cubicles were always better. I don't want to interact with faggots.
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>>108741706
Got a single source to back that up? Because I don't believe that for a second.
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an office with thick walls and a lockable door
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>>108738333
NEET goon cave
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>>108741554
>Then got a FAANG job
I don't understand why everyone wants to work at these companies. I had jobs at a couple. It doesn't pay that much better than small tech and the work is actually *less* interesting.
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>>108742045
When I was young I could literally work for 8 hours straight and I got autistically upset whenever someone tried to walk into my cube and start up a conversation about not-work shit, interrupting my flow. I couldn't believe how much time was wasted every day by faggots who clearly did not want to be there and decided to rope me into their slackoff scheme because I was too autistic to tell them to fuck off.

I remember a contractor who kept slowly walking around the office hitting up anybody who would listen, he kept talking about what a nice day it was outside and listlessly looking out the window. Fucker got terminated after a month because he couldn't write code worth shit.
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>>108743333
nice quads
it doesnt say that he was depressed but this one syas that he was against the evolution of the action office into the cubicles https://web.archive.org/web/20070206012814if_/http://money.cnn.com:80/2006/03/09/magazines/fortune/cubicle_howiwork_fortune/index.htm?cnn=yes#:~:text=See%20a%20gallery%20of%20cubicles%20%2D%2D%20from%20futuristic%20workspace%20to%20box.

but people forget that open offices were often the norm
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>>108741656
lol
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>>108743598
What's impressive is when you can be friendly *and* be a 10x programmer.

It's like wearing a tie. You do the thing, you do it well, and you look good doing it.
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>>108738333
The issue with cubicles is that they are cheap, drab and uniform. The issue isn't the walls or having privacy.
The "cubes vs open plan" argument is always tainted by comparisons between the lazy default of call center cube farm vs the downtown headquarters office of a successful young company, with exposed-brick walls and custom-crafted wooden tables and other creative design details.

There are many ways to improve the quality of traditional cubicle-driven office without just abandoning it for an open plan. You can buy higher-quality, reconfigurable cube walls. You can integrate shared spaces with couches and coffee tables and whatever you want.

>>108741731
This looks great, though, because the space allocated to each worker is very high.

>>108742045
>Bob Slydell: You see, what we're trying to do is get a feeling for how people spend their time at work so if you would, would you walk us through a typical day, for you?
>Peter Gibbons: Yeah.
>Bob Slydell: Great.
>Peter Gibbons: Well, I generally come in at least fifteen minutes late, ah, I use the side door - that way Lumbergh can't see me, heh - after that I sorta space out for an hour.
>Bob Porter: Da-uh? Space out?
>Peter Gibbons: Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work.
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>>108738417
https://www.hermanmiller.com/resources/3d-models-and-planning-tools/planning-ideas/complex/hive-135/
Only 90k. You can customize the layout.
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posting the classic
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>>108738333
The one where I don't have to be around people where I can't make racist jokes. Fucking hate fake nice people.
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>>108744077
Me in the bottom right.
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>>108738417
The indian in 945 will have to smell the farts of at least five other H1B co-workers
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>>108738333
The first one is good for increased productivity, the second is only good for friends who can tolerate being close to each other.
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>>108738333
Ah yes, I DO want people to see me browse 4chan at work...
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>>108738333
The only time I managed to work in the same company for 1.5 years (and not quit due to burnout after few months) is a fully-remote one.
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How do people bonk off at work in an open office?
I have a shared office: there's two of us in a 15'x10' room so I'm usually alone 90% of the time. I could sleep the entire day in my office and nobody would know.
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>>108738333
next to helly R
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>>108744077
2010s were wild man
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>>108738333
I'm one of those faggots that feels energized by open offices
the noise actually helps me focus. there's something about a shared workspace that gets my brain into "work" mode
working from home now and I like not commuting. but I know I'm much less productive now. I don't care, I'm getting paid either way. but I know I am
where I wish I could get that energy is for my personal projects. still thinking about it. I don't know if those co-working spaces are going to work. but maybe I need to try a few until I find one with the right energy and people. but it feels like a huge waste of money
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>>108745484
look for a makerspace or similar
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>>108744077
8 hours of work, 1 hour of productivity
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>>108745506
This is what happens when you give free coffee and fap break to your employees.
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>>108738333
I remember reading the Valve Employee Handbook ~10 years ago and there was the concept of your desk being on wheels, so that you work on whatever you think is cool and important and then roll your desk to whatever room/department is also working on that same thing.
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>>108745484
I hate the office and hate working for this company and so, yes, I like the open office because all I do is fuck around with my work-friends and barely get anything done.
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>>108738333
I've been working in goyspaces for over a decade and would kill for a goycube instead.
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>>108745976
I've heard there are no managers at Valve and the engineers manage themselves. Sounds great since I now have only the downsides of having managers without domain specific knowledge and that also don't let me talk directly with customers and they aren't technical enough to ask them the right questions to get me the Infos I need to work effectively. I used to be motivated as fuck but this dumb situation sucked all motivation out of me. Fuck middle management.
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>>108738333
the optimal working space is WFH but Jews cant just let their lease on office space go to waste so they will keep the goyim on short leashes within their offices

plus if you let the goyim WFH they might become slightly happier with their lives and not be in a constant state of lulled mediocrity and depression with their existence and might have the motivation to pursue additional change with their lives which could disrupt the status quo

not to mention what would you do without your daily hour long commute to a sterile office that exposes you to the possibility of dying horribly in a car wreck or road rage incident
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>>108738467
when the operator is actually inside the product, it's called an incel
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>>108738333
4K 32" Triple
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>>108746333
>the optimal working space is WFH
For getting your head down on with things, yes.
For working out what you should be doing, often not.
Work is a mix of things.
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>>108741731
Frank Lloyd Wright was an absolutely terrible architect who happened to be very good at self-advertising.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zji7Zc-AYxA
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>>108738417
The irregular shape makes this design too costly.
>>108741296
This is more sensible (ebin nazi symbol aside)

My boss recently renovated and it was the most space-taking design I could imagine. Bigger offices with cluster desks per department would have been better
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>>108746998
>faggot """""""""""""""""content creator""""""""""""""""" opinions
wrong
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>>108746913
>what is a zoom/meets/literally anything else call or just message the other person
youre a middle manager that loves organizing meetings arent you
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my office
in my home
that I own
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>>108744124
KEK I feel you man
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>>108741656
rare instance of classic-tier OC being produced on 4chan in 2026
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>>108738417
945 is the comfiest spot
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>>108738333
Cubicle, there are set boundaries, a lot of the time being around others is just distracting.
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>>108739079
HR or assistant manager waiting to fire someone for being lazy.
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>>108738333
Not sure what its called cuz I havent been doing office work for very long but I like how mine is open and Im surrounded by people. I'm introverted but not being around people makes me depressed so I dont like WFH that much. It exhausts me but I enjoy helping my coworkers as well since they're not as savvy and I get to talk about things in detail while they ignore me. I also like to think of my office as a hyperbolic time chamber from DBZ, I'm an autistic faggot and feel extreme shame whenever people see what Im interested in so instead of wasting time on bullshit (like I would if I was alone at home) I work on further education or planning projects.
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>>108738333
I kind of like the old school bars but I understand the pods are now the thing even though they seem suffocating.
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>>108747164
Kekekek, shots fired! It's sad how meetings are often unprepared and ineffective since their purpose is to make useless managers feel like they are needed (while they are often the bottleneck for the productivity of the people who's work they should enhance by providing the resources and guidance to get things done in an orderly fashion while avoiding costly mistakes).
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>kekekek
stopped reading there
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>>108743333
>Lazy person thinks everyone else is lazy just like him.
Stop being so lazy.
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>>108739211
>putting on pants
>in your own home
I will not tolerate such ridiculous ideas
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>>108748762
Sure you did, buddy. The truth hurts, doesn't it?
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>>108738333
they moved to open plan because zoomers and millenials go ape shit if they lose site of another human. "muh backrooms. help me." lol.
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>>108741731
>makes a house for skinny midgets with a mold problem.
>suddenly everyone lines up to suck his dick.
I never did understand it. My dad and i visited and it felt genuinely oppressive. We're not large or tall people but even some doorways were difficult with motorcycle gear on.
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>>108749254
they moved to open plan because you can shove even more people in, it's cheaper and people are less likely to shop online when everyone can see your monitor
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>>108746176
have you tried escalating to a skip or someone above your manager (this is a joke, the nail that sticks out always gets hammered down)
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>>108738333
god I'm so glad I quit the corporate world to draw anime porn
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>>108749619
I did actually get my last "manager" fired for gross incompetence but he was a nightmare hire and the reason to hire me was to get rid of him (they didn't say, obviously, but they would have known that letting a tech boss around an engineer will not work out. It didn't help that that tech had a "big personality" and the unwillingness to learn anything that exceeded his school knowledge and it showed in his designs that were utter garbage in terms of features, cost and DFM. He had the CEO by the balls by being the hardware "engineer" of the main product of the company and he made sure it couldn't be build without his input by obfuscating plans, making him unfireable at that point until I built a similar device with comparatively "modern tech" that was much more performant and even cost less by shrinking down a design with 13 PCBAs into one with 4, which also fit into our standard chassis, which saved us a ton of money per unit.
If he didn't have been such an obnoxious, narcissistic asshole I would have felt bad about pushing him out but he was not even trying to listen to advice regarding the designs or used tools. My first task was to do the layout for one of his designs and I've noticed there were no 100n caps for each digital IC on the board and I politely asked if I should add some and they laughter me out of the room calling me stupid. That reaction showed me he and his dickriders are fools and I started to concentrate on my own work and not making any suggestions to improve his designs, that were littered with noob errors like that.
He tried to throw his weight around but that didn't help in the end and he was exited eventually.
I should have quit a couple months in when the cracks started to show but I was naive and stubborn back then and couldn't stand the thought of getting bullied out of my first job by a fucking moron so I had to destroy him.
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>>108738333
This looks like the various alternative desk arrangements my school teachers tried in their classrooms. I've never worked in an office of any arrangement.
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>>108738837
are you cubicle-certified?
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>>108741296
this nigga working in one of those fancy cat houses
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>>108741681
instead you're the parasite bleeding productivity out of actual workers
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