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Components Worth Their Weight in Gold Edition

>>108683832

READ THE (temp)WIKI! & help by contributing:
https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Home_server

/hsg/ is about learning and expanding your horizons. Know all about NAS? Learn virtualization. Spun up some VMs? Learn about networking by standing up a OPNsense/PFsense box and configuring some VLANs. There's always more to learn and chances to grow. Think you’re god-tier already? Setup OpenStack and report back.

>What software should I run?
Install Gentoo. Or whatever flavor of *nix is best for the job or most comfy for you. Jellyfin/Emby/Plex to replace Netflix, Nextcloud to replace Googlel, Ampache/Navidrome to replace Spotify, the list goes on. Look at the awesome self-hosted list and ask.

>Why should I have a home server?
De-botnet your life. Learn something new. Serving applications to yourself, your family, and your frens feels good. Put your tech skills to good use for yourself and those close to you. Store their data with proper availability redundancy and backups and serve it back to them with a /comfy/ easy to use interface.

>Links & resources
Cool stuff to host: https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted
https://reddit.com/r/datahoarder
https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/wiki/index
https://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/Features
ARM-based SBCs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PGaVu0sPBEy5GgLM8N-CvHB2FESdlfBOdQKqLziJLhQ
Low-power x86 systems: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LHvT2fRp7I6Hf18LcSzsNnjp10VI-odvwZpQZKv_NCI
SFF cases https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AddRvGWJ_f4B6UC7_IftDiVudVc8CJ8sxLUqlxVsCz4/
Cheap disks: https://shucks.top/ https://diskprices.com/
PCIE info: https://files.catbox.moe/id6o0n.pdf
>i226-V NICs are bad for servers
>For more SATA ports, use PCIe SAS HBAs in IT mode
WiFi fixing: pastebin.com/raw/vXJ2PZxn
Cockpit is nice for remote administration

Remember:
RAID protects you from DOWNTIME
BACKUPS protect you from DATA LOSS
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my server is an rpi 3 with 20tb of storage connected to it.
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>>108741027
I'm proud of you anon.
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>>108740676
Do you also ensure every website you connect to has ECH implemented so you don't leak the SNI field too then?
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i copied a big folder from one HDD into another one and everything matches, like folders and file numbers, but in byte sizes the difference is 12288 which is exactly 12 KiB ... anyone know where to find the file and delete it? i used ext4 on both drives
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>>108741245
sometimes it's just adding to align files. i've done tests on tarballs with the same files after moving them around that have slightly different sizes and checksums.
or use tree and diff
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>>108741245
rsync next time
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Anyone know where I can get a clean copy of Citrix V apps and desktops?

There's a version on RuTracker but I don't think its very trustworthy

Even an old version will do, I just want to set it up on my home server
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>>108742279
>I don't think its very trustworthy
it is, don't be a pussy
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>>108740676
This is some schizo shit. All you've really done is turn your PC into a router, instead of just using a dedicated router like most people would. Your... understanding, of what the ISP can see and how your setup affects it, is extremely flawed. But you know what, Anonymous? Godspeed. I'll take a batshit schizo setup over cookie cutter UniFi HurDarrr NigGarrr PrawksMawks HotSwap bay rack of Reddit tier shit any day.
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How do you usually set up HDDs so that they appear as a single file system to the OS? I tried using GlusterFS, but it's unbearably slow.
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>>108742399
ZFS pools.
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>>108742399
Lvm id you don't want to autism out with zfs. All zfs trannies just want super fast access and backup security to their pedobytes of tranny porn.
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>>108742399
windows storage pool
takes 4 seconds
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I got lenovo and dell ARM laptops to use with linux at work. What should I expect?

What distro should I try?
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>>108742539
Clear Linux
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i've been procrastinating for weeks on setting up backups
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>>108744173
>setting up
Look at Mr Robot Bruce Lee Neo fancy hacker over here
I run them manually like God intended, no setup here.
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>>108744287
i just enjoy that sense of superiority i get from having my imaginary backup system be better than your functioning backup system
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I believe the done thing is to get an incredible bug in your ear about 1-2-3 and offsites and cold storage and hard copies and redundancy and and and ... and not taking a second to stop and think about what it is you hope to achieve and why
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>>108744334
1-2-3 is the bare minimum, my strategy follows the fibonacci sequence
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>>108740955
When you guys install services, do you scatter their files across the drive in accordance with FHS?
I recently setup a new server, and aside from log files, which live in /var/log/$SERVICE, I decided to put each service in /srv/$SERVICE and include data and config files inside each directory that way when I need to change or uninstall the service, all the related files are in one spot.
Is this common?
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I have pihole as dns for my wireguard server. my peers use the server as dns so pihole ends up seeing requests coming by a single ip. should I keep things like this or go out of my way to make the peers use my pihole directly instead? I would be doing this exclusively for autism just to see queries coming from different ips
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>>108745265
Are you running pihole on bare metal or in a docker container? I have a similar setup, with pihole is running in a docker container, which creates this issue.
I don't want to bind the host network to the container, not run it on bare metal, and I point all devices on my tailnet to that pihole instance as the upstream DNS resolver, which causes all logs to view nearly all traffic to be caused by the docker bridge network ip address assigned to pihole.
I think you can tinker with the FTL settings or DNSMASQ to log the actual IP address for each request.
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>>108745356
wg and pihole are both inside docker containers. I was trying to plan the procedure and claude recommended me to swap dns address from the peer and point them to pihole and then have pihole listen to the wg0 interface, whatever that means. free claud is kinda unreliable especially with pihole stuff
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>>108745411
I had some similarly unclear instructions from chatgpt and decided that I didn't care enough to fix it until it was broken.
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How terminally retarded am I if I am thinking about burning DVDs again
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>>108745676
Not even bluray? DVDs?
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test
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>>108745701
Well I have some DVDs on hand to burn right now, but I am also thinking about burning some BluRays. Some of those shows that's never getting a physical release and I don't plan on re-watching any time soon, I'll burn them and move them off my NAS
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why are all the homelab discord servers so gay and cringe?
just gay men blogging about the switches they use at work every day in every channel
where is the "home" part? they don't even self host anything
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>>108745676
I mean, hard drives are cheaper if you get them on sale. $12-14 per TB vs $40.
BD-R is around $20.
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>>108745676
A standard DVD was what, like 4.7GB? Dunno what you're planning to store but that's not a lot of storage capacity at all.
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>>108744374
Anything outside of /etc and /home is black magic that I don't touch.
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>>108746410
Starting with some random archival stuff like old photos and home videos and old files, then some music, then movies and whatnots

>>108746015
The other factor I should have mentioned is that my NAS is full. I already got 4 bays filled with 7TB drives.
I would get a second NAS if the budget allows for it, but right now the money is a little tight
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what do you use to sync bookmarks and read-later pages between devices?
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>>108747253
rsync
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>>108745805
>discord
you answered your own question, anon
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>>108745676
>burning DVDs again
>7 tb drives

Fuck are you gonna do? Burn 1400 fucking dvds? Switch to 4x layered blu rays and burn 70 fucking blu rays per hard drive? No, that you need a storage FOR A MAN.

Which means LTO. A single LTO-9 cartiridge will store 18 Terabitches of data. 45 Terabitches if really squeeze those skanks in there. Read / Write speed is 300+ Megabitches per second, which is leagues faster then that ragged out used fucking SATA HDDs you find on Facebook Marketplace. And a lot of these tapes are made in Japan, so you can impress some strangers on the internet with that or something.

But look the real thing with LTO is...the cachunk sound it makes when you ram those carts into the reader. It feels good. Like your physically sodomizing 45 gorillian babes at once. Your dick will literally get larger by just owning these drives.
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>>108747208
>photos and home videos and old files, then some music, then movies and whatnots
All of those are quite large so I wouldn't really suggest using DVDs, I mean you'd need shitloads of discs to archive any considerable amount of media. I guess if you have them already you can use 'em though.
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Hey I bought some SAS drives, and an HBA card but the drives arnt recognized by either windows or linux. I got a Sas to USB connector, and the drives work when plugged in that way. I have a SFF 8087 to Sff 8482 / SAS cable to connect the SAS drives to the HBA, and I am afraid the cable is bad. Is there a way to test the cables to by sure it is the cable and not the card? It is possible the card doesnt have the correct BIOS flashed to it too.
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>>108742345
The problem is, most routers cannot handle and do not have 2.5Gbps ports. that for go WAN and LAN ports. Some may only possess that capability on the WAN port, but but the LAN ports, so, their 1Gbps or 2Gbps ISP service is capped at 940Mbps. Sure, there are some routers out there that have these ports, but, they're ridiculously expensive and the chips in them cannot handle such throughput and bandwidth.
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>>108742345
Oh, BTW I talk to ICANN directly to make my DNS queries, and their DoT encrypted by Mullvad and AdGuard. ISP niggers see shit, but don't know what they're looking at.
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>>108749696
u wot
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>>108749707
or if you don't want to buy a separate WAP (this was $140 last year, thanks FCC)
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>>108749707
>>108749716
yeah no. Probably can't install OPENWRT, DDWRT or even Fresh Tomato on that. Merlin is trash and at the very least, only one LAN port is 2.5Gbps. Besides, I have 3 routers that I us to ban evade and I did this setup with using what I have a hand already in mind.
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Imagine simply using your ISP equipment solely as a passthrough to the real internet without them being able to see, monitor or be the arbiter of internet requests you make. It's like bypassing the annoying middleman. They are merely the portal without me having to "pay the toll" every single time I use the internet. They're literally like government —absolutely unnecessary — using force and chicanery to make themselves relevant. "Oh you need X? Lemme get that for you, because X won't be available to you unless I lawyer X for you." More importantly, paying $50-$65 a month to be spied on and have my personal data gathered, curated and sold isn't what I have in mind. So, when I visit Amazon.com, they don't need to know that I did and what I'm looking at etc.
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>>108747551
There no multi-head reader for tape. At least 10 reader heads for speed and efficiency
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>>108748461
Make and model you retarded faggot
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>>108749771
>bought my own modem and router
>use DoH/DoT
I'm not sure what info, if any, my ISP would have access to
though I suppose if my podunk town had fiber instead of cable I'd have to use the ISP ONT
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>>108744374
I run most of my services as docker containers in a VM running on Proxmox. Have a btrfs SSD with appconfig, appdata and userdata subvolumes mounted to the VM and individual per-service folders mounted to the containers. Appconfig for docker compose and config files, appdata for write-heavy application data, has copy-on-write disabled to prevent massive filesystem fragmentation, and a separate userdata subvol to split user uploads from the appdata subvol because copy-on-write is useful for that type of data.

Relatively easy to keep just the config in git and have sensible backup strategies for each type of data.

On my VPS I run bare Ubuntu with both config and data in a per-service folder in ~/docker. Pretty convenient to have the entire service contained in one folder.

I'm not sure yet which is better.
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>>108749716
>>108749707
So far he spent $0
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>>108744173
Same, don't know what to use exactly. I was thinking rsync mby?
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>>108749809
LSI 9207-8i. And I already worked through that BIOS question myself, but test methods for 8087 -> 8482 cables would be really helpful.
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are the chink AOM-SXMV boards any good or do i actually need to get a supermicro one if i want nvlink to work
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I have some CIFS mounts happening on boot in fstab, but it only partially mounts some of the share, I can later run mount -a and then it fully mounts. I guess something is stopping it during boot up from fully mounting, what to do?
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>>108751172
>(((Codeberg)))
every single time
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Actual Budget now has HTTPS as a hard requirement. My instance is not accessible from the internet, it's not accessible from outside my Tailnet even, but nope gotta have valid HTTPS before you can access. Tired of this shit.
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>>108751213
won't tls internal do?
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>>108751218
It looks like attempting to accessing Actual Budget via anything other than a public CA certificate is currently fucked: https://github.com/actualbudget/actual/issues/7700

Guess I'm going back to YNAB lol (not lol, annoyed)
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What do people use for manga/comic reading? Suwayomi feels like a great downloader, but as a reader it doesnt feel the best on PC/Android. I tried using Komga and pointing it at the suwa download folder but it was really bad at getting individual chapters in the right order
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>>108751352
i've never read manga, which one should i start with
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>>108751352
>Android
mihon
>PC
idk have you tried kavita?
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>>108750276
i was thinking i'd use restic. i've used borg in the past and that's okay too
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>>108744173
>backups
Imagine having drives that aren't full of hoarded data, I don't understand how people do it. I buy new drives, and before I know it they're full.
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>>108751483
what are you hoarding for exactly? it's not like you're taking it with you when your die.
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>>108751504
>he doesn't have it in his will that they cut his body open and fill it with all his drives
pathetic
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>>108751587
lel
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>>108751352
I just sue gwenview
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I had to update my NAS to get plex working again and now my pools are fucked up in SMB/windows shares. How do I get windows to show the full size of my pools instead of just what is available? One pool is 18tb, but windows is just showing 300gb/300gb.
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>>108751352
>tablet
Moon reader pro
>PC
CDisplayEx
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>>108752395
why would you sue gwenview
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>>108753565
it starts with a g instead of a k
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>>108740955
is the wiki down?
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>just got a Tailscale notification that my exit node (home server) is offline
Yabai
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>>108751172
Anon just self host forjego why are you doing this to yourself
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>>108754536
I was actually in the middle of doing. Codeberg went down just when I was pulling the image
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>>108754564
lol
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what can i host zim files with? i have wikipedia and want to get it on my network.
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>>108749850
Yup. Consider yourself in an envied position
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>>108754532
Do you stay connected to it all the time when it's available? Do you notice battery life issues?
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>>108755291
Yes
No
Also when I got back home it was fine idk what happened
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>>108730850
Not sure if cat joke. Towers have plenty of airflow. There is about 6" above the two towers and they vent top and back. Never had a problem, and they are in a cool basement. I like the wood rails because its easier to fasten shit on the back like power bars and smallish networking shit. The casters are great to roll it around to access the back. The hometheater equipment is all there too running on a dedicated 20amp breaker. My basement ceilings are low so getting some used metal rack was a pain, so I wood built it.
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>>108749731
>Merlin is trash

Stopped reading right there.

Merlin knows a LOT about routers and software. He has integrated fantastic click to enable functionality in his custom OS such as DOH blocking, easy VLAN setup, and wifi optimization.

Will it give you the same granular control as OPNsense and IPtables? Hell no. But for normies its a HUGE step up in home networking, and he does it for free.
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>>108749696
You are not looking hard. Get a CWWK N100 Magic PC on sale, can be found for $150 shipped. Add Opnsense. Has dual lan 2.5G. Also a PCIE slot so you can add a x710xda2 if you feel like you want to step up to 10gig networking later on.

find some shit 4gb ram + 16gb small SSD (??? cheap)

Bam you now have EASY 2.5 router and networking.
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>>108755998
Thanks anon. I didn't spend any money to set mine up though
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>>108751352
I use suwayomi as a downloader and Kahon on my android devices to read. You can add suwayomi as a source and download locally like any other source.
I haven't read on PC in a long time, I think I used to use Hakuneko years ago.
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Getting deeper into homelabbing and having fun with it. Time to replace my ISP shitbox router and get something supporting more advanced stuff like VLANs. Now trying to decide what would be suitable low-cost hardware for an (OPNsense?) router/firewall (running IDS/IPS) and managed switch behind it. WAN connection is currently only 100M and not likely to even hit 1G in the next decade. Would like my internal network to be a bit faster though. Got some devices with 2.5G NICs. Maybe a router with a 1G WAN port and 10G trunk to a managed switch with a bunch of 2.5G ports? Probably not so cheap though I suspect.

I have a few mini PCs running proxmox currently, one of which has a second 2.5G NIC. Could virtualize a router in theory, but seems like a bad idea to a) run a router on a tinkering box and b) connect an older machine straight to the internet.

Those protectli boxes look nice but rather expensive for what they are.
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>>108757182
>managed switch behind it.
surely you mean downstream of it
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HDMI TV stick that works with Jellyfin? (don't want to use Chromecast, absolutely refuse to connect TV to my home network)
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>>108757501
I use an amazon firestick 4k max
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>>108757501
>she doesn't have an isolated vlan for IoS shit
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>>108745676
Depends. Either way I would (and do) use BD (not DVD) for WORM backups but only for
>extremely critical data
>only datasets below ~1TB
Even with quad layer 100GB BDs you're looking at 10-11 discs for a 1TB dataset and that's bad enough when factoring in costs and storage.
For full backups (in my case high triple digit TB) I use LTO tape.
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>>108757501
only option that doesn't spy on you is a linux computer running libreelec
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>>108758168
Shame. You'd honestly think there'd be an audience, if not a market, for a one-click 'step 1 purchase Raspberry Pi from Amazon, step 2 plug into TV and power, step 3 install putshitonyourTV.deb' thing.

(have half-assedly attempted this via a 3B+ and the onboard browser, and it's as miserable an experience as you'd expect)
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>>108749893
Doubtful, considering he needs to leave his PC on for the rest of the network to function at all - unless he's the sole user.
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>>108758190
to be fair it's not that bad once you have it set up. kodi has a nice interface. no company is going to offer this because they will always have strong incentives to plaster it with ads, scan your network and run whatever drm spyware netflix requires for 4k video
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>>108758193
this is true, can I accomplish the same were I to buy I've if these devices?
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>>108758242
>were I to buy I've if these devices
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>>108758277
Kek
one* of*
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>>108758431
Not to add insult to injury, but that's not a minor spelling mistake. That's gargling half of a sentence and spitting it out. Gotta love modern autocomplete. Somehow is worse at guessing what you want to say than autocomplete from 10 years ago.
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>>108741027
Pls tell me it’s a 20tb SD card



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