>best phone OS for privacy and get away from Google's claws>but you gotta buy a Google phone, otherwise you can't use it>Google has the capacity to stop making Pixels and destroy GrapheneOSWhat are the devs thinking?
inb4 graphene devs are funded by google themselves
>>108742968realistic alternatives? postmarketos is only developed by 4 people, and they have pronouns on their website
I wish there was a GrapheneOS phone with a Snapdragon chip and a headphone jack.
they're thinking about how to make the most private and secure OS. at the moment only google phones provide the hardware that is most suitable toward that goal. other phones are not open enough, lack the hardware or do not provide timely firmware updates.
>>108743054yeah bro, pinephone phones are less private than fucking google phones. kys retard
>>108743065Yes. They don't meet the minimum requirements.https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices
>>Google has the capacity to stop making Pixels and destroy GrapheneOSlying monkey. why do you do this.
WHY THE HELL ARE PEOPLE SO FOCUSED ON MAKING A WINDOWS ALTERNATIVE BUT NOBODY CARES ABOUT ANDROID ALTERNATIVES????? ISN'T ANDROID A WAY BIGGER OFFENDER THAN WINDOWS?????
>>108743065>While in the future the PinePhone Pro will be able to serve as your daily-driver smartphone, at present the PinePhone Pro should be considered a development platform.
>>108742961Graphene OS is a Google product. It's just like YouTube Premium. You don't want ads? Then you have to pay. You want less Google tracking? Then you have to buy a Google phone to install Graphene OS. No matter how you look at it, Google gets your money in the end. Either in data/advertising or simply by paying them directly.
>>108743231>5 years later and the PIN lock screen still lags
>>108743010>pronounsare you aware, that graphene devs are also leftists? they are friends with mike kuketz who is an open green left liberal.
>>108743185Because phones are a piece of shit. Every phone has its very own procedure for just getting the default, glow-in-the-dark operating system, and installing another one. Almost nobody wants to have to deal with that.With laptops and PCs, however, its way easier. For all non-Brapple devices, it's as easy as creating a bootable disk, disabling secure boot in the BIOS, and installing the new operating system.
>>108742961The problem with Graphene OS is that the developers are so convinced of their product that they simply ignore and downplay the obvious weaknesses (baseband modem). This lulls users into a false sense of security. They believe they are safe, even though they are not. Graphene OS kills the healthy paranoia one should have when dealing with computers, and that is the worst thing of all.
>>108742961We will get the Motorola Phones soon! I can't believe it, OEM Support for GrapheneOS. From fucking Motorola, owned by Lenovo, just like Thinkpads. Holy shit... the ultimate free tard. Gnu/Loonix on a Stinkpad + Graphmeme on a Moto! It's time for a GrapheneOS General soon.I tried Fortnite on my Pixel, to see if harder anti cheat games play fine, it just werks. I created a private space in my main profile for googleplay reliant stuff. Even my fucking banking app werks.>>108743032>I wish there was a GrapheneOS phone with a SnapdragonSoon, fren, soon. Can't wait to install "GameNative" on the Snapdragon 8 Gen 5 with 16GB RAM. Proton for ARM is insane, people are running Red Dead Redemption with 40 FPS on Snapdragon phones.
>>108743296just means they're going to deepthroat cock at some pointanything run by a leftist or a fag will always do whatever involves bending over for corporations and governmentsno wonder graphene only works on google phones
>>108742961Oh, I wonder why a Chinese company would be interested in supporting Graphene OS....
>>108743397Okay lets assume that every phone has spyware on a hardware level, a chinese phone with graphene would still be better:>You will never go to china>Software(graphene) has no spy/bloat-ware>Not even cellebrite can crack a pixel + grapheneThey said we have to fear the russians and chinese, because they are spying on us, but have you actually looked into western countries? Palantir, windows, google, apple, meta... modern phones with chips straight from isreal and they already developed fucking pegasus spyware.. the fuck are you trying to say? Graphene is foss btw.
>>108742961Every other device cripples even any basic form of security for alternative operating systems, or didn't have it in the first place. So they didn't really have any other option if they want to actually make an OS that is just as, or more secure than the stock OS on a highend phone.They did see this as a problem and that is why they are releasing GrapheneOS for 2027 Motorola phones. Their highend devices will initially provide pretty much the same security features to alternative operating systems as modern pixels do. They could even target highend 2026 Motorola phones but they are missing a good implementation of memory tagging. So the security wouldn't be up to par with pixel 8 and later. It would be about the same as a pixel 6 or 7. Which wasn't acceptable for a newly supported device.
>>108743185the open architecture of PC is the result of a different era where the boomers in the government were wary of IT in general and how tech companies could singlehandedly disturb the good old stocks they had interests in. that's why they could do thigs like threatening Microsoft with anti-trust laws and pushing consumer lawsuits seeking to separate hardware from software.today tech billionaires are providing the majority of American wealth and politicians will never go against them. they all think that making PCs open was a giant mistake and they will never allow it for phones, if anything they're pushing to make locked-and-verified phones the new PCs while old open PCs will become straight up illegal to "protect the children".
>>108742961>grapheneOS>buy this google product to escape google
>>108743091shoutout to this guy for being able to fucking read and do research
>>108743095>Motorola "privacy" phone>Have to doxx your email address and Google account to Motorola so they will send you a bootloader unlock code
>>108743325>Graphene OS kills the healthy paranoia one should have when dealing with computers, and that is the worst thing of all.Nail on the head. The most private and secure phone is the one you dont enter your personal information into.
>>108743442its the socs from jewgle i dont trust.
>>108742961Just get a chinese phone, they won't put you on a bad bad list for accessing 4ch
>>108744054Source?
>>108743010You can literally just flash any mainline kernel and use the same HW acceleration layers PMOS copied in to their repos. PMOS is not special.
>>108743397they probably want to branch out to make muh secure business smartphones, blackberry was literally just that nowhat's the point if you already have iPhones, i don't know...
>>108743397>worried about the chinks.Anon, the biggest threat to you and your freedoms is your own government.
This thread gets posted weekly by IDF paid shills and it's always the same narrative.>but you need a Google phoneNo you don't, Google phones are just the only officially supported devices. People have compiled graphine os for other devices.>but the developer is a blunt humorless hyper autistWhy do you think everyone trusts his software? Daniel Micay basically wrote the book on Android hardening at this point. >But it's just another FBI honeypot like Anon PhoneBasically nobody even used anon phone when it was a thing. It was never open source and nobody outside of a bunch of wealthy but tech illiterate gang members used it. Hell, I don't even think there was any pedophiles or terrorists could from it. It was basically just organized crime retards.Anyway, you're a faggot glownigger/thread
>>108743296they didnt sign the "cancel RMS" letter unlike LineageOS and Calyx
>>108743355Moto is dead. Might be a good strategy to revive it. But not getting my hopes up.
>>108742968>>108743325>>108743870>>108744054stop noticing!
>>108744438>blackberry was literally just that noExcept they weren't actually secure to the NSA
>>108743296OMG this is so antisemitic wtfffff
>>108743378why is every single rightmorrhoid corpocuck accusation a confession?
>>108742961grapheneOS mofos dont realize that privacy is often in conflict with security (u want to be safe or u want to be free) gOS is safety and security first, pravicy second, massive faggots
>>108743325>Just stop using a phoneIt works out for RMS but unfortunately I'm a wagecuck
They teamed up with motorola dumbass. Wait for it.
>>108743870>the open architecture of PC is the result of a different era where the boomers in the government were wary of IT in general and how tech companies could singlehandedly disturb the good old stocks they had interests inNo, it was to make PC affordable. If IBM made all hardware and software by themselves, the price would be astronomical.
>>108742961PINEPHONE FAGGOTS FUCKED US ALL BY NOT RELEASING THE FUCKING CAD FILES SO WE COULD BUILD THE PHONES OURSELVES, amongst other things
>>108742961>best os>doesn't have a modern tablet
Imagine if grapheneos could run on the lenovo legion gen 5 tablets
>>108747240Now that Intel fixes the battery life on x86 chip, wouldn't a Microsoft Surface Pro for business tablet be superior?
>>108747240yeah I would love to spend a shit ton on a piece of gaming hardware to not play any games
I'll never forgive them if Graphene's Motorola phone doesn't have a removable battery. They have a hardware partnership and still don't do a removable battery?
>>108747260In terms of software availability, yeah almost certainly. In terms of UI definitely not since neither Windows nor PC desktop Linux provide a good touchscreen UI.
>>108747301EU is going to enforce that on every phone next February.Unless Motorola lawyers find a loophole again
>>108747329No loophole needed. Any phone with water resistance is exempt. The law is a complete dud.
>>108743095So are there going to be particular moto phones that can run graphene or will it be available on all their phones? Motorola cheapo phones have been my go-to for years now
>>108747301Doesn't Dodge vs. Ford 1919 empower minor shareholder with better privileges than majority ones?
removeable battery in a way people mean it is a retarded idea anyway rooted in old phones that werent built water resistantpeople also forget that when the batteries were switchable like lego, it alko fell off like a lego when you dropped it
GrapheneOS Desktop Mode still in development? or works?
>>108748493You can make a removable battery with water sealing. The back needs to be held on with screws with a rubber seal around the perimeter of the case
for me it's the 150 dollar motorola phone for texting, phone calls and RARELY browsing the internet/4chan because I'm not a phonefag zoomer and I use real computers
>>108748493go look at the samsung xcover, it has a removable battery and i use it in the shower, daily.
>>108743032There is just get a pixel 4
>>108749250>>108749290Actually that reminds me, you don't even need screws. My old Galaxy S5 had a clip on back with a rubber seal
any good privacy-friendly language keyboards a graphene user can rec? Trying to learn and use Japanese
>>108742961not just Google, but your phone cell phone service provider
>>108742961>What are the devs thinking?Your FUD doesn't work here, federal chuddie!
>>108743296Not working chuddie!
>>108749296>>108743065You're brown.>>108743095Because he is brown.
>>108743278Brownoids will always be brown.
>>108743325Still not working, Sgt. Paco.
>>108743397Your shilling only makes GrapheneOS appear stronger, airman.
>>108750723?
>>108745462Just call them brown and laugh at them. Like this:>>108747151You're brown. Hahahah!
>>108749290GrapheneOS + nonremovable battery > NonGrapheneOS + removable batteryAlso, you're brown.
>>108747151Are you retarded? Without the security focus of GrapheneOS, how do you expect any of your private data to be safe? Unless you have zero convenience, remember every site login, clear cookies all the time, never using banking apps, etc, etc... Even then, without security an actor can just employ CopyFail (GrapheneOS was immune btw) and just sniff everything you're doing.
>>108750753Let me try it :D>>108747151You are brown. You are a nigger, you are the dumbest blackest gorrila nigger I have ever seen.
>>108749290Ironically xcover phones are 100x more fragile than literally any phone.The company I work with boughted 10000+ of them and half of them are already FUBAR
>>108742961Why doesn't anyone make their own privacy phone? It doesn't need anything more than basic features
>>108751797all the baseband chips you need to be able to connect to telecom networks around the globe all has backdoors in them, and you will literally be approached by 160 glowie agencies trying to persuade you into making software backdoorsmy old boss got transported to a blacksite for like 48 hours when he was trying to start his cellphone company for example.
>>108751932another fun anecdote, when i was working there, my phones would run out of battery in literally 12 hours, they used to have like a week of battery time before that.i would buy a new cellphone, get it registered, it would work for a week, not having to charge it once, then it suddenly would only last a day on a full charge, barely a month old.a few months after i quit, my phones were suddenly back to having a week of battery time again kek
>>108742961>>best phone OS for privacy and get away from Google's claws>>but you gotta buy a Google phone, otherwise you can't use itbecause graphene isn't for degoogling, it's about securitydegoogling is just a bonus
>>108743185phones are legally required to fuck you in the ass
>>108742961>here goy, install this and you can skip the whole privacy schtick, you can even install google play (oy vey)only retards buy into this fake promise, there are no shortcuts, fake security promises do not replace standard privacy practice (the retards at GOS selling security = privacy are the worst, install from googoyplay instead of fdroid because muh security, just give your data to google already goy)
>>108753915>idfposting
what Pixel model should I buy used with cash for installing GrapheneOS
>>108753915
>>108753915You are brown
>>108748493>people also forget that when the batteries were switchable like lego, it alko fell off like a lego when you dropped ityou forget that the battery ejection FEATURE prevented your screen from cracking. the phone without the battery attached was too lightweight to hurt itself. like dropping a piece of cardboard on the floor.
>>108744360>SoUrCe?https://en-us.support.motorola.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
>>108742961Motorola phones will support GrapheneOS next year. I will 100% get one
>>108745430>worried about the chinks.>Anon, the biggest threat to you and your freedoms is your own government.The greatest threat is getting raided by my government because foreigners did any number of crimes/terrorism using my device as a proxy.
>>108755224>the chinks log into my device to get me accused of antisemitism.
>>108755297Funny but no, they log into your device and then cyberattack US infrastructure like power plants, water treatment etc, and you get blamed for it instead of them. Kind of like when the US government blew up that oil pipeline and said Russians did it. Or when Israelis knocked down those skyscrapers and said Bin Laden did it.
>>108755393
I just want to block shit and blacklist hosts without having to run 3rd party "apps". /etc/hosts and all that >Noo! Can't do that it's unsecure and not best practice waah use an app!!!!Works for me everywhere else.
>>108742961why do you need one? Serious question. Believe it or not society worked before we had any kind of mobile telephone.
>>108742961>Google has the capacity to destroy GrapheneOS by removing billions of dollars of revenue from their system.Also they partnered with Motorola and hopefully will be a more widely available option in the future.+ refurbished options will always exist. Jewgle ending the product line doesn't immediately explode every old Pixel with it.
I’m le opsec FOSS goy.I get pussy though so I stick to iOS. It’s just for text, chat apps, phone calls, taking pictures, search engines and YouTube anyways.
>>108756155Imagine being so pathetic and fucking retarded that your sexual market value is tied to the brand of phone you have and the apps you use.
>>108756041>society>worked
>>108750983ppl really keep their private data on their phones???
>>108756384Phones are more secure than computers
>>108756155>addicted to mobile video slopopinion discarded
>>108756326Wherever Mughal-raped Indians go, they must reinvent the caste system. Thus, their preferred phone OS makes them brahmin and all others are dalits
>>108756535That is the most retarded statement I have heard in my life
>>108758261It's trueModern android and crapple OS for all their faults regarding being locked down have better innate sandboxing properties and give users more controlPhones are inherently more dangerous privacy-wise as devices from hardware perspective due to mic and camera but on the software level, iOS and unrooted android are much more secure than windows, macOS or any linux distro that isn't tails
>>108758261He said secure, not private.
>>108758293You poor tech weenie retards.An operating system is not a phone. I can run mainline with anything in an LXC container on your stupid little "phones".>locked bootloaderSurely you will fall back to praising this as a good thing next
>>108743325I remember back in the day that exynos' baseband was considered more secure tightly while qualcomm's modems were swiss cheese from a security perspective. I wonder how the tensor fairs.
>>108742961>What are the devs thinking?there is no alternative, the fuck you want them to do?
>>108743010>realistic alternatives?iOS
