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>expo in China featured plastics made from bamboo
>signs, guest IDs, food containers, everything at the expo was made from biodegradable bamboo
>none of the people there knew until the end of the event, those taking their IDs home will be able to watch them biodegrade
>bamboo takes a week to grow from sprout to mature (20 feet, 6 meters)

Are we finally freed from petroleum plastics?
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>>108745072
When will we finally be freed of your shill posting?
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>>108745088
fpbp /thread
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>china has created
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>>108745095
>China claims? WE DON'T DO ZHAT IN GERMANY.
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>>108745072
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy4dBrfdcAM
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>>108745072
Name one Chinese "tech breakthrough" from the last 25 years that actually changed the world
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>>108745072
i only see an use for very short term plastic products, unless they give a way for biodegradation to start at the moment it gets in contact with water or something, otherwise that 50 day window its too short for regular use
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>>108745072
Someone explain this to me. If it's fully biodegradable in 50 days, doesn't that just make it shitty plastic that don't last?
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>>108745130
That's incredibly anti-Winnie-the-Pooh-ist of you anon.
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>>108745136
please be bait or have severe autism
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>>108745130
China can’t create stuff but they can copy and mass produce them for cheap which is based.
Mutts and europoors love to gatekeep stuff and sell them at exorbitant prices
This happened to
>lithium batteries
>solar panels
>EVs
>tools
>Now RAM (even though they are still expensive)
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>>108745141
>make it shitty plastic that don't last?
making plastics last is what went wrong anon
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>>108745157
shut up nigger
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>>108745095
>left
would
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>>108745141
Yeah
Typical chink crap that disintegrates in LESS THAN 2 (two) months light use. 1 star, refunded requested.
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>>108745088
>>108745130
>>108745095
miggers are now defending their microplastic oiljew goyslop because big bad jyna keeps them up at night KEEEEKKKKKKKK
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>>108745072
Turning organic material into plastic-like material is nothing new. Using bamboo is kinda clever but not super revolutionary - it's just another source of cellulose.
The issue is that this kind of bio-plastic does not work for actual packaging industry because of how fast it starts to deteriorate. That pack of rice or other dry food that normally would be fine for year or more now is gone in few weeks because bag you used to hold it turned into sawdust.

Bone is much better material, but processing of animal products is a pain in the ass + psychos from PETA would never leave you alone.
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>>108745136
>i only see a use for very short term plastic products
any container you open and discard on use would be amazing yeah if it biodegraded in a day it would be ideal, 50 days is amazing for plastic
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>>108745170
Having something biodegrade when you want it to would be fine, but fully biodegradable in 50 days makes me think it starts to degrade right away. You can package something in ice which can be "fully biodegradable in a few hours, depending on temperature", but having something that lasts is a feature. I guess there are uses for both and I'm picturing it wrong.
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>>108745196
>muh rice
There is an absolute fuck load of short shelf life shit gets wrapped in plastic otherwise rn tho, sandwiches etc.
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>>108745214
and call me simple minded, but I'd much prefer less forever micro plastics in my food chain as well desu.
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>>108745201
>but fully biodegradable in 50 days makes me think it starts to degrade right away
I know what you're thinking, but that's ok for millions of products sold in a container for consumption, like it will last the meal or whatever and then be discarded within an hour sometimes. these plastics just fill landfill and don't break down so anything biodegradable is a better solution, but we've all seen bamboo plates and stuff at festivals and they're not all amazing. so I just hope the chinese keep developing this, because plastics companies are part of the oil cartel
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>>108745184
Mass produced dirt cheap graphene batteries/RAM/GPUs/CPUs/HDDs/Solar in just two more weeks comrade.
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>>108745136
>get out of shopping store happy with my two chinese bags full of cool stuff, ecofrenly bags that die when it gets in contact with water
>starts raining
>plastic chinese bag im holding starts desintegrating
>all my stuff from the bag fall into the streets and get taken away by rain water
b
bad
>sneeze bacuse the cold rain make im sick
>liquid mocus and saliva fall into my second bag which also desintegrates and more of my things are forever gone
superbad
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>>108745072
50 days seems kinda short, unless the indoor shelf life is way better. Could still have a lot of uses though.

>>108745159
This. There's probably something recently impactful they invented if I thought long enough, but their biggest contribution (and threat) is efficiently executing mass-production.
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>>108745238
>in just two more weeks comrade.
you almost sound like you're content with what we have now
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>>108745236
Bamboos a fucking nightmare once it takes root. How you think those fuckers got so fat
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>those taking their IDs home will be able to watch them biodegrade
That's nice and all, but many if not most items made of or just using some plastic are expected to last and be in use for many years. A type of plastic that doesn't even last 2 months is nothing but a niche.
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>>108745214
>>108745230


Yes and these things contain moisture that will fuck your bamboo packaging in minutes, you fucking green schizo. You still will need inner layer made out of plastic.
Again, this is not a new idea pulled ouf of Xi Ping-Pong's ass. Cellulose plastic exists and it's main use are single-use stuff like small bags that you use to pack your bread rolls in bakery. Anything wetter or stored for longer cannot use this kind of packaging.
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>>108745263
>A type of plastic that doesn't even last 2 months is nothing but a niche.
when you type things like this with such confidence do you remember there is an immense island of plastic in the ocean? how does it feel to be an outlier
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>>108745072
this entirely means that china is now the 1 (one) true (as in not false) way of existing, how else can we justify our existence except through the lens of a totalitarian transhumanist anti-christian police state that worships material reality and fails to perceive the infinite
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>>108745271
>Doesn't want to munch the everlasting empty tide pod containers, ideally
>MUH GREEN SCHIZO
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>>108745276
>when you type things like this with such confidence do you remember there is an immense island of plastic in the ocean? how does it feel to be an outlier
When you type things like this with such confidence, do you remember there are tens of plastic items in your home that you have used for many years?
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>>108745141
This is obviously not intended for plastics that are meant to be used long-term/repeatedly. We have a problem of using plastic that lasts thousands of years for one-time things that is only used for a few days at most. Plastic carrier bags, pallet wrap, milk jugs, lining for food containers/cigarettes/packaging, etc are all only used once for a short time before discarded and dumped in a landfill for thousands of years. This should help solve such issues.
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>>108745159
can they hurry up with the ram
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Whether this is real or not and available this week or not, it won't last more than a month and history of it will disappear once big oil finds out about this.
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>>108745263
>A type of plastic that doesn't even last 2 months is nothing but a niche.
Disposable drink cups and straws.
Disposable cutlery.
Disposable fast food containers.
Hygiene wrap around store-bought sixpacks of drinks.
Hygiene wrap around store-bought vegetables or fruits.

There's some pretty good applications for cheap biodegradable plastic from a safe natural substance like bamboo.
Assuming the additives used to create it don't spoil the fun.
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>>108745072
Are there enough bamboo trees to replace all the plastic in the world ? Probably not.
Could we plant enough bamboo trees to replace it ? Probably not, as bamboo trees require insane amounts of water.

Nice niche product though, perfect for trade shows and shit.
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>>108745345
Right, as I've said, it's a niche.
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>>108745184
Look how dumb frogposter deflects. Somehow doubting Chinese claims equates to supporting "the other side".
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>>108745258
Is that supposed to be cope or deflection or something? Like genuinely what the fuck are you trying to say? Objective reality is none of the shit promised over the last 25 years has come true with regards to China flooding our markets. The only markets China "flooded" is the cheap one-off-use consumerist bullshit and that has always come from China, only difference now is you order it directly from some Chinese website instead of a US/EU reseller slapping on a 500000% markup.
Would I like to see China destroy literally every single cartel/monopoly in the west by outcompeting them on price and quality? Sure. Is it gonna happen? Judging by the last three decades: Two more weeks comrade.
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>>108745372
There's a lot of disingenuous 'short life plastics have no usecase!' going on itt tho. Which is patently fucking nonsense
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>>108745380
Eh, I like my chink power tools that I can get for a quarter of the price of american shit. If they make it past a quarter of the lifetime of american brands, which they do, they're already won.

Also look at how the rest of the world has reacted to Chinese vehicles. EU tariffs the shit out of them and the US outright bans them because they can't compete lmao.
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>>108745159
>china can't create stuff
you're like 20 years outdated on your knowledge bruhemoth
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>>108745451
What new technology has came out from china?
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>>108745476
pretty much every new math and tech discovery in the past 20 years. they've been exporting brainpower to other countries and those people are responsible for the inventions in other countries. domestically they're the number one innovator in electric vehicles. they're responsible for modern vape technology.
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>>108745124
thanks doc
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>>108745492
>they're responsible for modern vape technology
t-thanks, chinks
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>>108745072
I guess it's gonna be perfect for temu chink bags unless they take more than 50 days to ship it lmao
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>Degrades in 50 days
so it's cheap chink crap that breaks after you buy it?
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>>108745517
>after you buy it
No that's the innovation: This new product breaks while its still lying in some warehouse before you had a chance to even buy it.
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>Chinese plastics will only survive in my brain and testicles for 50 days

This just will not do. I want PERMANENT White Aryan Man plastics that will last FOREVER in my brain and testicles.

I paid good money for this!
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>>108745543
nobody has tested my testicles
this info is false
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>>108745316
Paper and waxed cardboard seems to already be a viable option for a lot of these things. I'm sure though that plastics are creating havoc, polluting shit and turning turning me I mean frogs gay, but the second there will be a viable replacement I'm sure that big corporations will jump on it, that would give them environmental cred + the possibility to sell you several times a product that can't last.
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>>108745574
>he doesn't coom confettis
ngmi
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>>108745236
>>108745260
Lol, so many people wanting that "Asian aesthetic" in their gardens planting bamboo, only for a small patch of it to spread literally everywhere and destroy everything in a matter of weeks. Bamboo is highly invasive, and one of the quickest growing plant there is.
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>>108745072
isn't the point of plastic that it doesn't degrade quickly
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What's with the extremely retarded (and extremely brown coded) way of either/or thinking about things?

>uh... what if I want plastics that last forever, hello???

It's like the same type of retarded (and brown) argument you see with solar panels.

>uh... what if the sun doesn't shine???
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>>108745592
I've removed my won't somebody think of the pandas shitpost, but yes. Luckily nothing has ever gone wrong from shifting an ecological balance for industrial purposes. Monocultures.
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>>108745072
>fully biodegradable in 50 days
big if true
>china claims
nvm it is toxic to anything remotely organic and turns the frogs gay
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>>108745345
We have waxed paper and cellulose packaging for that, again.
You're losing your mind and screeching about solved problem. You're mega retarded.
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>>108745581
>>108745635
>waxed cardboard
Apparently a pain to recycle so it just gets burned or dumped in a landfill. Cardboard lined with this plastic instead could make it more viable for recycling or composing.
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>>108745130
Deepseek v3
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>>108745088
>>108745092
Why is /g/ full of obnoxious kikes? Are computers even kosher?
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>>108745072
I hope this is true. My balls will be happy
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>>108745689
Microplastics made your sperm more resilient and waterproof tho.
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>>108745631
>Luckily nothing has ever gone wrong from shifting an ecological balance for industrial purposes. Monocultures
Yeah, we already do that with wood, corn, basedbeans, etc.
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>>108745359
But it's not 'nothing but.' It's a very important niche that could go a long way to cleaning up plastic waste mucking up our environment and causing all kinds of problems. Not just for animal or plant life, but also for us. Because while normal plastics don't degrade in the sense of molecular deconstruction, they definitely slowly fall apart and flake into smaller carbon bonds. And eventually some of that 'soup' finds its way back into our food supply. That plastic waste is still part of the microplastics ending up in our body.
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>>108745689
Biodegradable plastic doesn't mean the 5g of permaplastics in your balls will sudden disappear. Nor further accumulate in your balls because there's still need for permaplastics like goyter bottles and goystic containers for you to pack your lunch in.
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>>108745675
Unfortunately they control the digital world.
There's no big AI company that's non jewish
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>>108745675
>>108745723
We LOVE big oil on /g/.
We LOVE big plastic on /g/.
We LOVE plastics in our balls on /g/.
Stop being anti-pessimistic.
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>>108745072
This is antisemitic because it hurts oil industry and will be banned in USA and other judeo-christian countries.
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>>108745072
biodegrade into forever microplastics
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>>108745751
>my sperm gets to feed on cellulose microplastics

BASED!
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>>108745072
Does it degrade without help, or only in bioreactors with over 80°C temps?
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>>108745130
TikTok
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>>108745072
Implessive!
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>>108745072
Using biodegradable materials for packaging food has fairly obvious problems.
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>>108745894
Vely nice. Now let's see Paul Allens new plastic technology.
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>>108745476
actually fieldable rail guns
judeomerican army could never :)
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>>108745912
>>108745136
>>108745141
>>108745196
you guys have to be LLM bots holy shit
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>>108745196
>Bone is much better material
patrick agrees
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>strong as plastic
>biodegradable
plastic is still king
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>>108745866
vines
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>>108745072
on paper it sounds great, but single use plastics aren't made on demand, they're bought in massive bulk and spend most of the time in storage waiting to be used
for these to be a viable replacement would require a massive overhaul of logistics, where production, transport and sale all happen within 2 months, so a little clairvoyance and we're good to go
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>>108745380
have you fucking cheacked solar panel prices? or chinese ev prices?
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>>108745920
How often do you need to lay tracks before a train pass though.
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>>108745072
Honestly I'd be perfectly happy with this, but at the end of the day, I know since the EU has already banned free plastic containers, I have to pay out of my ass just to get a container for my takeout zogslop, nothing is going to make things cheaper for me anyway
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Sometimes I have to wonder about the ethnicities of the people who post stuff like this. They see something that's objectively good, but they would conjure up entirely fictious scenarios as to why it's bad. There could be a cure for cancer out tomorrow that's 100% efficacious, and they'd say it'll crash the trillion dollar pharmaceutical industry.

Bizarre.
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>>108745130
That fucking recommendation algorithm first used in Tik Tok and has now infested the entire internet making it more addictive than crack.
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so many irrational china bad dunning kruger comments, uncle sam indoctrinated them well
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>>108746221
It goes both ways, my beginner chinese classes had us repeating how chinese hamburgers are vastly superior to american ones.
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>>108745316
>>108745581
>>108745855
>>108746096
Biodegradable in this context means it only breaks down in certain conditions.
By itself it's stable.
Kinda like PLA where it only appreciable degrades under constant heat and wetness.

>>108746163
To be fair there is almost always a downside. The shit we use is used for a reason and not because of an irrational hatred for new things or alternatives.
Going back to PLA, it would be a miracle plastic as it's the only "plastic" that can actually be broken down by the body but it's also brittle in the cold and deforms in hot weather.
This new bm-plastic might actually be useful for single use shit without much food contact but be completely useless for storing anything with liquid. In which case PP and PE would still reign because both are so insanely chemical resistant
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>>108745130
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>>108745942
If you had ever interacted with LLMs you'd know they aren't that fucking retarded. That's natural stupidity.
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>>108746163
It's more being bored and pessimistic. If there was a cure for cancer tomorrow, on the one hand that's great and I would like it of course to save myself or anyone I know, and I have enough empathy that I would recognize it as a good thing for others even in a scenario where I wouldn't be affected, but having that much people grow old wouldn't be without a societal impact either.
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>>108745072
>working with cellulose
good luck
never again will I ever do that shit
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>>108745130
Affordable Li-ion batteries
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>>108746275
>but having that much people grow old wouldn't be without a societal impact either
I can see where you're coming from, but it's an interesting scenario to explore/discuss as well.
The older you are, the more likely it is you'd get cancer, due to your DNA replication getting wonky. Solving cancer would save a ton of money, as old people wouldn't have to get cared for or to pay for treatment. At the same time, all the money/resources dedicated to solving cancer could be dedicated to solving other diseases as well. Imagine if you will a world where people just don't get sick. They'd live naturally long until they're 70-90, and then die. No medical expenses, no need for young people to care for them, maybe you can up retirement age to 75 because they are just that healthy and can work/contribute to society a bit more.
Just interesting to think about.
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>>108746311
Making the body hold up is one thing, making the mind hold up is another. If the first one is achieved, better hope that there's a solution not far behind for the other.
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>>108745072
poor pandas
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>>108746346
tbf, dementia is practically compulsory for US Presidents now.
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>>108745072
>biodegradable
this is bad
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>>108745072
Haven't we had plant based plastics for a while already?
Though I don't know how degradable they are
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>>108746349
They are lazy fat cunts.
Them bares still (technically) omnivore, but evolved into 99% bamboo diet, as that meant they could just sit on their arse munching all day, as that shit grows faster than they could eat it.
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>>108745072
Plant based plastic has been a thing for a long ass time. The USA has been making it out of corn starch since at least the 50s.
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>>108746388
China switching to them will affect everything else because they're a manufacturing hub. Also disrupting Big Plastic could be huge.
(This is of course assuming Bamboo Plastic™ isn't a scam)
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>>108745184
>jyna
more like vachina
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>>108746397
it's not biodegradable in 50 days AT HOME, no specialized conditions, like this one is.
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>>108745072
>just dropped
yeah in february. we're in may. keep up boomer.
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>>108746349
>>108746389
First it was construction companies getting rid of every single tree, but I didn't complain because I was not a bird.
Then it was solar panels stealing the entire sun, but I didn't complain because I'm not awake during the day.
Now it is every single bamboo being used for plastic, and there is nobody to complain for me because I am a panda.
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>>108746536
>february
more like october of 2025
https://interestingengineering.com/science/biodegradable-plastic-made-from-bamboo
creation of it needs zinc chloride, a simple acid, ethanol, and all kinds of other toxic shit.
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>>108745072
>isn't in the trial phase
>thousands of objects made of this material have been distributed to the public
>every picture and video of it is AI generated even half a year later
very innovative
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>>108746573
>toxic shit
Is it because you don't know anything, you think something like zinc chloride, which is present in sunscreens (and other topical ointments) are toxic?
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90s hifi japanese bamboo capacitors were actual bamboo?
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plastic items even if disposable will sit for weeks before landing in the consumer's hands for use. most shitty one use plastic items you can think of would not be used within 50 days of production.
>>108745619
some areas just don't get enough sunlight to justify the material cost. also it is mostly brown people that live near the equator to get the most year-round sun possible.
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>>108746699
This plastic still seems good to use with food that will turn bad if it was stored for 50 days anyway.
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Do people REALLY care about pandas? They evolved out of eating a primarily meat based diet 3 million years ago. Their genes literally don't give them a taste for meat, it tastes like shit to them. They are lucky their population was huge back then, with a lack of natural predation, that they even managed to survive until the current era. Without human intervention and supporting their dwindling population, they wouldn't exist today.

>don't like eating meat
>don't like having sex
>if not eating then they are sleeping
>your teeth grind away so much from eating bamboo that once you're an adult you starve to death

Maybe humans shouldn't play God and stop nature.
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>>108745072
If it's food safe and cheap it could replace food packaging (especially for fresh stuff with a shelf life of weeks at most) but I'm not believing until I see it
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>>108746699
>plastic items even if disposable will sit for weeks before landing in the consumer's hands for use. most shitty one use plastic items you can think of would not be used within 50 days of production.
jesus fuck where are you people crawling out from? I refuse to believe you are a real life human being.
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>>108746631
Eat some sunscreen then, genius.
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If it naturally deteriorates, let alone in the presence of solvents, it's not a plastic analog is it you fucking retarded chang
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>>108746716
>Imma just sit on my arse and ate tree all day for the next few millennia
Humans don't get away with this shit, don't see why they should.
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>>108746791
>panda
>fat
>eat
>sleep
>don't have sex
>"CUTE!!!"

>me
>fat
>eat
>sleep
>don't have sex
>"EWW!!! CREEPY INCEL LOSER!!!"
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>>108745088
>>108745092
>>108745095
>miggers on suicide watch after seeing Chinese tech
KEK
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>>108746742
bot reply
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>>108747073
low quality bait
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>>108745141
The usecase is obviously single-use plastics. The shit that's currently filling up oceans and rivers all over the world, you don't want that to last.
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>>108745095
>yummy asian milf
i'd hit

>>108745088
when we zoomers finally expel the oil jew from our lives after the old people croak. everything related to fossil fuels is a solved problem and is only locked by corporate greed and jewish tricks
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>>108747606
>everything related to fossil fuels is a solved problem
Manchildren legitimately believe this. Crazy.
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>>108745184
>retard shill OP immediately goes mask off shitposter when questioned
Thank you for verifying that there is absolutely zero merit to your claims.
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>>108746818
rerun the scenario but with being born a girl
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>>108745072
Could be a revolution for packaging.
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>>108745072
cacti plastic exists as well
oil is the reason we haven't switched yet

>>108745675
zionist occupied website aka glownig astroturfing bots
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>>108745072
Niggy the raw materials for petroleum plastic are literally free, better than free some refineries will pay you to take it off their hands because they can't burn it fast enough.
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>>108746791
because nature is beautiful, pandas are part of the creation of God and we don't believe in anglo-jewish shareholder value thinking

>>108747618
but it is. all of these techs are locked away from us by US-backed international banking and petroleum industry lobbies. i know the answers because i'm an engineer, not a manchild with lead-related brain damage who got everything handed in a silver platter.

>gasoline for cars
ethanol can be made from anything that grows from the earth by absorbing dirty air and sunlight and has superior anti-knocking properties to leaded gasoline giving your engine free performance and making it last longer by burning cleaner at the cost of lower mileage. you were spraying lead into the air while God provided you dead plants to make fuel

>diesel for shipping and transit
we can use biodiesel made from cooking oil waste

>electricity
we have solar energy in various modes of generation, nuclear fission and closed cycle thermal generators fed with waste. we don't need oil or US dollars to keep the lights on

>meds, lubricants, special purpose polymers, etc
only valid usecase of oil and half of them can be solved by switching to alternatives from nature

>plastic packaging
we can use glass and metal, we used to do and it recycles forever

oil is again a solved problem, but if no one buys oil how would israel get its child sacrifices when the world's biggest military power relies on people trading their dollars for it?
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>>108747676
>we can use biodiesel
you finna go from common rail to common rape bro
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>>108745072
>biodegradable in 50day
This means that all the containers, bags, decorations. tools, and everything will start rotting in 2 months. That's way too fast for it to be useful. Make it 50 years and then it would be useful.
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>>108745159
this but ENTIRELY unironically
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>>108747676
what about steel production?
anyways i agree with you that fossil fuels should stop being used for plastic production and fuel because the alternative ways of making half those meds, lubricants, etc from non fossil fuel sources suck donkey dick and there's a limited supply of fossil fuels so the production should be focused on those things only as to extend modern quality of life as long as possible
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>>108745476
sodium ion batteries, silicon carbon batteries, compact robots, affordable iems and that's just the surface

>>108747796
idk about the specifics of petroleum in steel production but maybe finding a different way to supply carbon for the steel alloys and using the other solutions to reduce the environmental impact of mining metals like molybdenum or chromium for alloys
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>>108745130
they innovate on governance and economic strategy. supply chain management and actual applications for AI. they delegate the tech work to cuckmericans who they then spy on for company secrets. intra-national spying is common in china and that's where they gnaw their teeth on.
for tech innovation, there's safe, efficient rare metals extraction and refining, because here it was a strategic imperative to be better than america in this field, like EVs batteries solar and wind. not to mention ML research. on the software end there's alibaba b2b, alipay, wechat, temu and all the fast fashion apps.
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>>108745619
imagine the fucking frogposter of the thread being smarter than everyone else within it. jesus what a brutal mogging of plasticfags
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>>108745072
Then why use AI to generate an image of it? Is propaganda more important than having real, mass producible products?
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>>108745072
Bamboo need a 5 yars or so to sprout tho
Still pretty cool, can I see some papers?
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>>108745619
This. The actual fuck with people
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>>108745072
>invent new "plastic" that degrades in 2 months
>start making electronics out of it
>they fall apart in 1-1.5 months instead of years
>this means globacorp can sell the electronics 10x as often as before
>"muh petrol is ebil" faggots will try to spin this as a good thing

lol, lmao
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>>108749484
Anon the use case for this is most likely food. Just for our balls to be free from plastic.
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>>108749488
you don't understand how the modern world works anon

food is a global industry
global means shipping
shipping means longterm storage and transport, or at least longer than this "new" plastic remains viable
if the new thing cannot be used for the entire source chain, that means "normal" plastic still touches the food at various points
if "normal" plastic still touches the food, you lose the supposed benefits of the "new" plastic

it's nothing but virtue signaling at that point, like the fucking retards who ban plastic shopping bags and straws, which we sure as fuck don't need any more of in the world
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>>108749508
If you need to store food for more than two months on plastic then it's probably food that is bad for your health anyway. I still don't see how this isn't useful.
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>>108749550
anon thinks sammwiches are imported readymade from China, in shrink-wrapped shipping containers
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>>108749508
>doesn't understand JIT logistics or kaizen
>"you dont understand how the modern world works anon"
faget
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Why do retards keep thinking it'll just break down anywhere rather than in a specific environment like composting?
There's other plant based plastics that behave the same way.
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>>108750191
/g/ is the most intelligent board, after all. They think if you just let it sit, it'd degrade in 50 days, and not when it's buried in soil.
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>>108745316
you know these single use plastics don't magically appear at the time they are required? they are manufactured in china, shipped around the world, sit in different warehouses for indeterminate lengths of time, shipped to a factory or supermarket and again sit on a shelf and then finally are used possibly years after manufacture.
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>>108745072
If it degrades in 50 days what's to stop it from degrading before i even stopped using it?
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>>108745072
There's a guy on YouTube that showed how to make plastic out of starch from potatoes. This isn't anything new, though maybe using bamboo for it is. I don't see something like this catching on unless you could make the plastic degrade under specific circumstances - either something like a few months if it's laying out in the open, or several hours if exposed to boiling water or something like that. Otherwise it would be too inconvenient to use outside of applications where you might as well use something like paper.
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>>108745130
Asians have low capacity for creativity but high capacity for things like math and obedient populations to do work. The end result is they don't invent anything, they just make existing stuff better, which has it's uses of course but they'll probably never really invent anything of consequence. This applies to China, Korea, and Japan, as well as any other place around there
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We will never hear of this ever again, BTW. Anything that goes against the (((((status quo))))) will be (((((shut down))))) immediately by the ((((((powers that be)))))).
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>>108750404
What if we made a hybrid population of north Germanics and east Asians? In my mind, this is what Australia could've been had China found it first and we attempted to take it.
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>>108745072
>reddit futurism in /g/
its over. it will never leave the lab.
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>>108748188
>sodium ion batteries
Invented by Huwhite men in the 1970s.
>silicon carbon batteries
Invented by Huwhite men in the 1970s.
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>>108745072
>degrades after 50 days
5 times longer than the usual Chinese plastic, amazing!
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>>108745130
>>108745159
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>>108750778
You know you can criticize China without being an American MIGAtard, right?
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>>108750546
Hopefully China invades us and kicks out the jeets then we can have anglo/monkey hybrids like god intended.
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>>108750873
china doesn't really do the traditional invasion/war thing, they do economic takeovers and destabilizations. debt traps. enslavement. etc. they could absolutely destroy every country except india just with meat grinder strategy as their population is so excessive they'd only need a 0.2 kill death ratio per citizen.
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>>108750921
To be fair the way they do is way smarter
>see UN, we aren't colonizing Africa, they were the ones who signed a contract that gave us control of their entire mineral resources for the next 100 years in exchange for building a single hospital
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>>108745072
No, because you can't remove the stock market and lobbyists from the West
There's no reason we can't find an alternative but it would mean the oil industry would have to pay money to get rid of their waste instead of selling it.
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>>108745130
seedance 3 BFTO every other video model and it was created using crippled hardware while the investor-backed shit can do nothing except scale up compute and promise castles in the sky
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>>108752543
that's good stretch, could probably make a sex doll out of it.
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>>108750404
>The end result is they don't invent anything
>Paper, gunpowder, compasses, tea: ...
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>>108752555
yeah plus you can boil it for cleaning
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>>108745072
>Are we finally freed from petroleum plastics?
The barrel of the by product of petrol production that is used for plastics costs 2 cents a barrel(119 litres)[in texas].

You can't really even make recycleclable plastics a price-wise worthy option without putting a minimum price on this, can you make growing and replanting bamboo even this cheap?
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>>108745574
Would that just make them 'icles'?

>>108745599
Let's just say that plastic that is nearly impossible to get rid of without expending lots of resources is bad.

>>108746626
Are you also going to call this article AI-generated?
https://phys.org/news/2026-04-bamboo-plastic-biodegradable-products-seawater.html

>>108749484
Do you not understand that more factories would need to be made if companies had to make 10x as many products which would cost an obscene amount of money?
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>>108752669
my bad 19$ a barrel of ethane(119 litres).
It's 5.66-11.32$/barrel if you have a metric ton of this stuff(100-200$).
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>>108752705
that's cheaper than water, amazing.
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>>108752543
Both hemp and bamboo are superior but not cheaper, that's the problem
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>>108745072
thank god, if we're going to use plastic for every other fucking object on Earth, might as well make it Earth friendly before we fucking drown in it

I really don't like all my food being contained in plastic either.
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>>108745130
Covid
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>>108752829
Lmao.
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>>108745141
>buy expensive plastic container from known US brand but made in China

>watch it break in your hands after 50 days have passed from its creation, which will be less than 50 days because wont be in the department store the day its created and you likely wont buy it day from its creation.
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>>108752829
Stolen US tech.
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>>108745072
If it disintegrates, wouldn't i want it as far away from food products as possible?
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>>108745130
Tiny cheap drones
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>>108752543
>>108752555
>>108752764
>>108752591
Will never happen. Same reason why hemp for textiles never took off. You are not allowed to have good things.
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>>108753220
Absolutely, that's why you should never buy unpeeled oranges, preferably you should only get stabilized orange juice from concentrate with the sugar removed and preservatives added.
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>>108745130
they grew a bamboo stick
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>>108753220
Bisphenols and other plasticizers are surely better than the risk of the packaging degrading.
Since I am a basedboy I don't have care about the infertility and DNA damage from the plasticizers, I wouldn't reproduce anyway and the cancer is just a bonus as it ends my miserable life.
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>>108753070
most products break after 50 days anyways so it might as well disintegrate into dust too
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>>108745492
>the number one innovator in electric vehicles.
yeah those electable bomb batteries are very innovative.
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>>108755944
>low IQ whitoid cope
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>>108745130
you put the quotes in the wrong location
its "Chinese" tech breakthrough because they have never had a original technology just copied other people
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>>108745088
WW3 will take them off our internet so theres that.
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>>108746825
but how will this solve the WMAF issue?
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>>108755944
trvke nvked those bugs like a raid spray
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>>108745723
You can very accurately predict the success of any tech company by how many of their engineers are Jewish.
Sorry your people aren't smart enough to compete
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>>108756049
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_gunpowder
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>>108745072
It'd be hilarious if the apocalypse of the future is micro bamboo plastic that is invasive all over the earth. No one would see it coming.
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>>108756085
Damn, self-replicating cellulose that grows up to be bamboo? Crazy. This will 100% happen because reasons.
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>>108745072
遥遥领先,遥遥领先,中国再次伟大
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>keep jar of jelly for longer than 50 days
>fridge now a mess cause of shitty biodegradable plastic

thanks china
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>>108756069
>compete
What's that
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>>108745130
the ability of china to trigger fat american seethe online has ruined 4chan
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>>108749427
>they innovate on governance and economic strategy.
By fumbling economic and demographic data and by implementing an organised large scale state sponsored industrial espionage network operating both domestically and internationally? This is supposed to be impressive?
>supply chain management and actual applications for AI.
In what sense? They have no food security and they are still dependent on foreign oil to a larger extent than they care to admit. They have many vulnerabilities that they are trying to cover via the Belt and Road Initiative, which is currently under threat.
>they delegate the tech work to cuckmericans who they then spy on for company secrets.
And this is good or moral because...?
>intra-national spying is common in china and that's where they gnaw their teeth on.
And this is good and moral because...?
>for tech innovation, there's safe, efficient rare metals extraction and refining
Literally what the fuck are you on about?
>like EVs batteries solar and wind.
Batteries is the only field I see China having an unironic edge over everyone else. Solar and wind are simply the result of them having captured the industrial sector and not because of any kind of technological breakthrough they were responsible for.
>on the software end there's alibaba b2b, alipay, wechat, temu and all the fast fashion apps.
I can't even take you seriously when all you have to show is China's consoomer net, which is literally built on exploitation and aggressive state-sponsored tactics like dumping, which are illegal in any serious country but everyone just ignores it when China does it.
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>>108750868
Unfortunately, the kind of violent and rampant China shilling you see online is incapable of nuance. If you're against the Chinese clown state and you call bullshit on their propaganda, then obviously you can only be an American MAGApede. It's all so tiresome.



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