Had a thread about minidisc players on /mu/ a couple of days ago and it got me thinking.Have people become overall less interested in sound quality compared to previous years? Don't get me wrong, audiophiles still exist, but it wasn't uncommon for people to dedicate significant space for large speaker setups and AV tuners, stand alone CD players, record players, etc. Those options essentially don't exist anymore and if someone even has a sound setup it's usually just a sound bar for their TV.Hell, most people that aren't autistic, shove shitty ear buds in their ears and think full over the ear headphones are clunky.Maybe it part of a cultural trend where music is yet another background event instead of the focus because one's attention has to flick to dozens of different things constantly? I don't know.That said, what kind of audio tech do you enjoy currently?
flac
FLAC and ALAC are pretty sufficient and even most ears probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference between FLAC and 192 kbps Opus, let alone sample rates above 44.1 kHz.
>>108746114Most everything is good enough for most people now even on default settingsOpus beats VorbisAAC beats MP3Most people don’t need anything better than the default settings and Bluetooth headphones add their own compression anyway at least some of the timeYou need to be a weirdo like me to insist on FLAC and ALAC for everything because very few people can ABX what they listen to normally
many factors, less space and people living in shitty tiny apartments, focus moving to other technology like smartphones , desktop pcs, gaming etc etc , my dad still has a full seven module sound system from the 80 and those giant speakers, back then i assume it was the norm to get that type of shit to be on the cool side or whatever. today its probably gpu's and AI rigs ??
>>108746114This is not even audiophile.Modern listening, if put in food terms is comparable to Indian street vender, with an extra helping of fecal contamination and insects.
the average person in the cureent year experiences most media through their phone screen and its integrated speaker. how is this surprising to you?
How many people would actually be able to pass a blind test comparing FLAC and Opus audio?
>>108746177In most parts of the USA until the 80s, if you didn't live in a decent city, you weren't getting TV for shit outside of maybe two channels through an outdoor antenna. Music, on the other hand, was everywhere, even in the middle of nowhere, so people growing up in pre-70s America definitely dropped cash on stuff that made music sound its best because they were making the best out of what limited entertainment they had access too.
>>108746114Bluetooth speakers are "good enough" for nromalfagsHi-fi systems were status symbolsEnthusiasts still buy sound systems but they are also connected to their TVs
>>108746300It's one of those things that depends on the audio output device.Someone listening on AirPods? Nobody can really tell. Listening on some good, full ear isolating headphones? Depends on the content at that point. I've heard lossless audio versions of Nirvana stuff vs regular stuff and there is a pretty clear difference (more highs, lower lows, more "space" in the audio, etc) but I doubt WAP sounds different on any setup.
>>108746114>it wasn't uncommon for people to dedicate significant space for large speaker setups and AV tuners, stand alone CD players, record players, etcMiniaturization of electronics definitely played a role to significantly reduce the size of AV setups. Now an amplifier and a DAC can fit inside a small chip that could fit on all sorts of small devices even usb to jack converters, and the only people who could tell the difference are placebo-huffing liars who would be exposed by an ABX test.
>>108746114Boomers obsessed with audio fidelity have lost their hearing, been embarrassed into silence with studies showing cable risers are a scam (along with other quackery), and young people grew up listening to mumble rap on YouTube that wouldn't benefit from a higher quality source anyway.Hi-fi gear in 2026 is almost exclusively jewish scams for retards.
>>108746114Audio quality peaked in late 80s/early-mid 90s. Since then the only real improvements are size and cost reduction. Eventually it resulted in the BT speakers and TWS. There are amazing BT speakers and very good TWS out there. My TWS with in-app sound adjustment smokes 99% of wired IEM stock tunings. But the problem is enshittification, meaning that there are companies which only copy the format and optimize the cost but don't give a single shit about sound quality. I enjoy electrostatic headphones atm.
>>108746114there's hifi companies still round, physical media too. Quite a few 'legacy brands' were bought up by chinese companies, Samsung bought quite a few too like Denon.
>>108746114A good chunk of millenials and the absolute majority of all zoomers will never own a house and your neighbours stab you if you play music outside of headphones. The market for high end audio shit got killed like almost everything else by boomers and their infinite greed.Besides if you actually care about audio quality even "cheap" consumer gear has long since passed the point of anyone but maybe a dozen people on earth being able to distinguish the quality difference when listening to music vs comparing numbers on a spreadsheet.The only real difference you'll find when it comes to audio gear is in studio equipment and even then it's mostly just about the software side not the hardware.
>>108747291Don't forget most apartments built since the 00s have paper thin walls.
I bought a good enough set of speakers and a small class D amp for 350 bucks brand new.Even 10 years ago the same setup would have cost me thousands of dollars now you can get good enough shit for cheap the next logical step would be sound treating my living room and buying those retarded floor stand speakers for 30k each
>>108747490Modern stuff is utter garbage. Back when I still listened to music I used classic mid 70s 3-way speakers with 10 inch bass drivers. For some reason they don't make real speakers anymore.
Active speakers are pretty good these days, but for versatility I'd still go with an actual amp+speaker combo
>>108746300>>108746139>>108746123flac is 30 year old garbage that introduces noise during decompression because it was designed for a fucking pentium 3 not a 60 core intel nigger lake processor with 64gb ramgenuinely so tired of boomers on /g/
People moving to shitty soundbars is what let me pick up my Denon AVR-2803 for $50.
all the drawbacks of audio has been solved. like that anon said, the miniaturisation of tech made component systems redundant, if not obsolete in the grand scheme of things.you can add tape hiss, crackles and pops and the inconvenience of flipping the cassette, record, 8 track or respooling the reel to reel via software if you want thise nuances.there's obviously still a market for hifi, but for the average joe, convenience is king.
>>108747633never go full retard son
I think headphones have improved it's pretty normal to have $200+ headphones now which would have been like inconceivable to all but a tiny minority of people during the cd era. You certainly wouldn't walk around with them on
>>108746308This.Grew up out in the country and every boomer could play kumbayahttps://youtu.be/bqlbOOCbZYQ
>>108746114I live in a terraced house so I wouldn't be able to get my money's worth out of expensive speakers anyway without pissing off my neighbours. Detached houses where you can get proper use out of speakers are a boomer luxury here in the UK.Investing in a quality headphone setup is still worth it though.
>>108746114>but it wasn't uncommon for people to dedicate significant space for large speaker setupsThe less gormless apes blasting their absolute bass boosted TRASH out of their speakers through the walls all night the better.I genuinely hope large speakers die out forever except for events organizers, they are a fucking cancer on civilized society and anyone who thinks blaring their fucking sounds out so loudly people down the street can hear it is acceptable deserves the fucking rope.To answer your question, the sound quality of cheaper options is incredibly good compared to what it used to be these days. Even like $20-$30 headsets are fantastic, the tech just got cheaper and since most normgoys stream everything and have no notion of even selecting sound quality or experiencing different rips/group releases they won't ever need to think about it.They just put their airpods in, load up spotify and don't need to care.
>>108746114tvs removed speakers from the front, and also got bigger to remove the space for speakers alongside. soundbars became the fill in, should the consumers want them, but consumers are happy to live with speakers firing backwards or downwards first.the bottom end of the consumer market has gone. outside of the few independent companies left, practically everyone else is owned indirectly by samsung.consumers were happy to give up sound quality for convenience.
I still listen to music off my MD player for a bit of nostalgia and in some cases because the difference between CD and MD is practically non-existent but if I really feel like enjoying the music on a deeper level I still have an old rockbox iPod and sands.I got obsessed with old tech with great hardware to get the most out of music but eventually realized I was just chasing the tech and not actually listening to the music. Can't shit on it too much because diving into all the tech and learning about how the PS used a high tier DAC per early 90s standards, the loudness war, or speaker/IEM profiles was interesting even if it lost the plot.
>>108746114convenience trumps fidelitymost people will settle for "good enough" especially if cost is a factor.
>>108749225The big speakers had a purpose. Most had three speakers handling high, mid, and low tones. In a lot of modern AV setups, there is a single subwoofer for low tones and smaller speakers handle both mid and high tones. The overall quality of speakers have improved, no doubt, but using a dedicated speaker for each tonal range definitely makes a noticeable impact on overall range. You will not know this on the majority music made post 2000 though because it was recorded with modern speaker tech in mind as a result the 90s were kind of the last decade to really give optimum sound range and that is incredibly sad because the 90s was the start peak consumerism music.
I can't notice anything between flac and mp3. I expect it wouldn't even matter when listening to music in public.
>>108746114>but it wasn't uncommon for people to dedicate significant space People no longer have space nigga. Also quality no longer requires space, other than for speakers obviously. There are now dongles btfoing desktop amps and DACs from 5 years ago and insanely compact and powerful speaker amps based on new TI chips. Room and headphone EQ now easier and more powerful than ever. CD and record players are obsoleted by files and streaming.
>>108746114Going from a phonograph to today's tech, there is only so much you can keep improving. Planar solved the headphone bass, high excursion woofers solved the bass in small spaces. Measurements aided by computers (e.g. Klippel) showed the scam of most top-end gear.Like you said, most people do not care. Only hobbyists care about their hobby, be it audio, cars, art, sports etc.For me I enjoy a 2.1 (soon a 2.2) system.Mostly AIFF/FLAC, 24-bit if possible.The difference between 16-bit and 24-bit music is hardly tangible, but it's there. I won't claim I can pass a blind listening test, but I remember the moment asking myself why a certain album sounded better, then realized it was 24 bit.
>>108749896I think a lot of audio stuff isn't really apparent until you actually experience it first hand. It's also unique in the way you can go from using shit audio to good audio then right back to shit audio and be content with shit audio still. Compare that to going from shit resolution and framerates to good resolution and framerates. It's a mother fucker to go back to shit resolution and framerates again despite you mainly using it for decades. Suddenly stuff is unwatchable/playable when you didn't mind it before. Audio just doesn't have a similar effect for most people.
>>108749225TVs getting bigger is also a factor, and the desire for them too.Plenty of people will get a 70" TV and not consider if they drop down to 65" they could fit a couple of bookshelves by the side for example.No, they want more screen. If you were a rich boomer you probably had a room where the hi-fi was too, but a lot of people don't have that space now, or they use it for something else, like I dunno, a bar or something (What is it with boomers and wanting to have a fully fitted bar counter in their house).
>>108746259These anons like OP fail to realise that the biggest market for everything technology related, EVERY component, every piece of software, every design and ethos decision does not have him in it. The market belongs to a middle-aged Chinese or Indian with a low to mid-tier smartphone and the hardware associated with it. Realising this is key to understanding most tech-related decisions.Anything that happens to occupy a market space outside of that group is an afterthought unless you're including actual professional-grade shit that consumers don't have the money for anyway.>>108746814>>108747291>Hi-fi gear in 2026 is almost exclusively jewish scams for retards.>even "cheap" consumer gear has long since passed the point of anyone but maybe a dozen people on earth being able to distinguish the quality differenceThe total quality attainable by entry-level proper audio equipment (read: not gaming headsets and bluetooth speakers) is so high that anyone who's dropping $1000 on headphones deserves their fate.
>>108747633>introduces noise during decompressionQRD?
Most of my music is dsd 256 or dsd 512.
>>108750331>The total quality attainable by entry-level proper audio equipment (read: not gaming headsets and bluetooth speakers) is so high that anyone who's dropping $1000 on headphones deserves their fate.Yup. Dropped ~150€ on IEMs a bit over a decade ago and I've found nothing yet that was an audible and not spec sheet upgrade that didn't come with a four figure price tag attached. Nowadays even below 100€ you can find shit I would have killed entire villages for 25 years ago.
>>108746114It's all about A E S T H E T I C SMinidiscs are lossy but the aesthetic improves the sound quality
>>108750825Hi-MD format came out in 2004 that supported lossless audio. Minidisc had its cons. Not having lossless audio until almost a decade into its life, some delay in music when switching tracks, and (what really killed it) no real music storefront in the USA to buy songs. It had its pros too. A stupidly long battery life, no skipping, ability to record in real time, and the discs could be rewritten a pretty crazy amount of times without losing quality. Didn't know it then, but being powered off a single AA battery that is easily swapped turned out to be a pretty big plus. I got an old minidisc player that still chugs along fine that would have long since died with a rechargeable battery. They did release rechargeable versions later on and I'm glad I never got one of them.
>>108746114No, people were never interested in audio quality, just like they aren't with anything else. Not sure how you came to this odd conclusion. People had Hi-fi set ups because that was the way you listened to your tales/CDs, that was the option you had. If bluetooth speakers and smartphones were around 30 years ago you think people wouldn't use them? It's more convenient and it's cheaper, that's what people value
>>108746114i enjoy IEMs and portable gear. spent about 10k give or take the last year
>>108746114>it's spinning, nword, it's spinningGet on with the now!
So weird how headphones have only gotten better and more expensive while source gear has only gotten worse. The Anti-Audiophile Movement is busy convincing people to use Apple dongles with their phones and compressed streaming rental because it’s “good enough”. They also convince people that CDs are obsolete as if buying the same files from a nearly-bankrupt digital service (or mooching via Soulseek) are any better.
>>108747554https://emotiva.com/products/nostala-lb12-loudspeakers
>>108750677Solid setup I like parasound and I am very picky with amplification
>>108751517Bro Apple dongles are literally good enough as an unbalanced line level signal out of an iPhone. They aren’t an amp really but as a dac it’s decent. I say this as a pretty extreme audiophile
These threads make me sadWe live in the best time ever for audio and music reproduction yet you can tell people either have no space to install a two-channel setup so they suffer with headphones, or they have no clue how loudspeakers actually work so they waste their money on snake oil
I use a superslim late model walkman on the daily, I quite like it and I enjoyed tinkering with it and getting it to work well.
>>108751794>Suffer with headphonesThat's the bigger gripe I have. Good headphones exist and good audio devices exist to take advantage of them, but the most popular type of headphones are inner ear phones that suck dick and smartphone for streaming shitty compressed audio. It's all kinda moot because people by and large listen to dogshit music. Strangely though, metalheads are much bigger demographic than I realized.
>>108746114People on youtube that are comparing sound quality are fucking hallucinating. When it comes to guitar wood, or guitar strings or audio storage. 320kbps mp3s sound just as good as WAV. Your headset is not good enough to hear the difference, and (lol) youtube compression will crunch the sound so much, people in the comments believe what they want to believe. Vinyls cant handle the same bass frequensies as digital media. People were still happy with cassette tapes, even if they did stretch, they were more portable and mobile than CDs. Lot of bullshit out there, im still listening to mp3 CDs in my old car, sounds great.
>>108751638See? It barely pushes high end headphones and makes planars sound like dog water, but we’re all being told to use this shit anyway. I can hear the difference. Maybe with your Moondrop Chuu or whatever you can’t.
>>108752204>comparing a car stereo to actual audio equipment
>>108752259Just use this with planarshttps://youtu.be/6qM4TGxcLk8
>>108752267Yes..., And?
>>108752267But your audio equipment will be the biggest deteminator of sound quality, a lot of "premium" headphones change the frequensies to favor some frequensies. Are the headphones realy tight around the ear?, does you speakers have bass module, is the room you are in big with little furniture, or small with many soft surfaces? Wav, mp3, analoge and whatever does not matter in comparison.
>>108746114Most people never cared and I'm not sure where you're getting the impression that they did. Crappy cheap headphones for portable players were always a thing, just with a thin metal headband instead of buds. Cassettes had shitty audio quality (at least on the hardware that the vast majority of people used) and yet were hugely popular. MiniDiscs weren't a high fidelity option either and used Sony's shitty ATRAC compression. Hi-MD came along eventually to offer CD quality audio and it was a flop that nobody bought. Partially because MP3 players were really getting going and everybody was listening to 128kbps MP3s instead because you could fit more music onto a mid-00s device with limited storage space that way. Even actual portable CD players usually got paired with headphones so shitty that the benefits of the format were moot.The decline in home audio setups is mainly because of convenience than anything. It's just easier to have a Bluetooth speaker or two instead of some large hi-fi setup. People had such systems because there wasn't much else you could get for a home music system, not because they really cared about audio fidelity. The average large consumer hi-fi system was complete junk that sounded like shit anyway. Late 80s and 90s systems are notorious for being junk because manufacturers ended up in a race to the bottom on pricing. The really high quality setups of the early 80s went away because they didn't sell, and they didn't sell because the average normie just grabbed whatever was cheapest.Nothing's changed. The window where actual high fidelity audio equipment was mainsteam was brief and driven by a lack of other options. It was quickly driven to a niche position by low quality trash that sounded like shit.
>>108752573>Nothing's changedPeople stopped listening to music as an activity.
>>108752617I honestly can't remember the last time I just sat down and listened to music for the sake of listening to music. It always background noise for other stuff like driving, socializing, working, exercise, etc
>>108746114Most people just care about their soundbar having booming bass and shit like that, because they think it's wonderful that it can produce a wide stereo spectrum AND a center channel. This covers 99% of peoples needs. Very few people get into music on such a level that they compare different mixes of a Pink Floyd album to figure out which one they like the most based on the sound characteristics. Or tweak how tight the screws are holding the speakers into the wooden cabinet so it produces the least amount of resonance on certain frequencies. That's the real audiophile shit; not jerking off to which codec is better or having $2000 power cables and such.It's also why people use FLAC, not because they can hear it sounding better, but because it eliminates a point of failure.
>>108750677I prefer multichannel mixes if they exist.really wish Boris Blank would rework the existing Yello albums in dolby atmos. The Atmos mix on their last album is breathtaking even with a low-end 5.1 system.
>>108746114My best guess is that it became less of a novelty with the miniaturization of electronics and the general availability of "good enough" equipment so the average normie really don't care because nobody is talking about how revolutionary is a DAC>That said, what kind of audio tech do you enjoy currently?pc1>ASUS Xonar Essence STX>Sennheiser HD660S2>Thonet & Vander KurbisI know it's not top notch but the STX really sounds miles better than any onboard audio I've tried>pc2>Creative Sound Blaster Audigy Rx>Edifier R1080BT>HyperX headsetI have this just for the EAX thing with some games I love (Battlefront 2, UT3) but turns out it sounds pretty good>old pc>Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS>Any headset available>WinXPNative EAX for old games>laptop1>Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi HD USB>any earphones/headset available (minus HD660S2)Pretty much the same as the Rx, got this for portable EAX, unfortunately it can't drive the HD660S2 because it distorts at high volume levels but still sounds better than the fucking onboard chip which I hate it being "enhanced" with extra bass>laptop2>Fosi Audio K4>any earphone/headset availableIt was cheapI can live without a dedicated graphics card but I must have a dedicated audio device for my computers. I'm autistic, I know. Thanks for reading my blog.
MiniDisc was a step down from CD, audio quality wise
I want to get into vinyl but I have several things slowing me down:I do not want to be a consumerist faggot. That is to say, I don't want to drop 4k buying the "best" just because I saw some youtube personality showing off expensive products when I was doing research.I do not want to buy the equivalent of gold plated cables. I want a slick, sensible setup that will let me listen to a variety of vinyl with some measure of adjustments to get the sound appropriate to the record and to the room its played in.I still want the setup to be expandable in case I want to add other media, like cassettes, CDs, or stream directly to it.
>>108752433And yet for years everyone has been saying you need a desktop amp for planars. I’m not going to change formats just because some idiot put up an affiliate link with an ad on YouTube. These people don’t own any music and largely just listen to streaming while at the gym or taking a shit, and their level of care really shows.
>>108753373>And yet for years everyone has been sayingPeak cargo cult reddit mentality.
>>108753373Anon, the style of product in question(ultra powerful dongles) did not even exist "years" ago. The dongle in the video is already obsolete btw.
>>108746300846,536,812.5 (there are some midgets with good aural acuity in the mix)>>108746348>I doubt WAP sounds different on any setup.MACARONI IN A POT!THAT'S SOME WET-ASS PUSSY!
>>108752800realest audiophile take in this thread.tinkering is kind of addictive and you need a special fixation on audio to care about it. in a way i envy the average consumer who is happy with a bass button, they enjoy their music more than some of us sometimes do by simply filling in the details in their head, not worried about what could be better. then again getting more detail and texture has given me appreciation for different aspects of music that i never would have cared about (or heard) otherwise, and so i assume most people have no clue that they are even missing much in the first place, as is the case with anything that has depth to it
>>108752204> Your headset is not good enough to hear the differenceThe difference between mp3 and lossless is actually quite large. Even $3 ear buds can resolve the difference. Lossy compression is no mere distortion, it is instead a reinterpretation of the audio. What comes out is not the same as what went in.
>>108753373>And yet for years everyone has been saying you need a desktop amp for planarsthat's because for years, portable DAC/AMPS have been inadequate to run them efficiently. then technological evolution in the space happened.
>>108753761most people simply don't give a shit about music to begin with, or only listen to whatever plays on the radio. in that context, you can't expect them to care about how the frequency response of your tweeter changes if you change a capacitor on the crossover.it's just a simple case of not knowing about it and therefore living without a care for it. in many ways, they are happier, because they are not making up more issues for themselves.now ask a person who learned how to play an instrument, and they'd likely be a lot more conscious about audio quality.>>108753990>The difference between mp3 and lossless is actually quite large.that depends on a shit load of things like bitrate, encoder version, encoder profile, etc. on a 160kbps fraunhofer mp3 I encoded in 1999, I could probably tell the difference. on a modern version of LAME using a V 4 preset, I sure as hell couldn't.but I don't want to give a single fuck on whether something sounds crap because of the mp3 encoding, and whether it could sound better if it was not in mp3. so I use FLAC and practically never have to worry about that.
>>108752573I'm only 40 so I'm not old enough to remember, but I was always under the impression many in the generation before me took price in their hi-fi setups, my dad included.>>108753010You can get a vintage Technics P-mount table for about $50. There are basically two in-production cartridges to choose from so you don't have to think about that. They sound perfectly decent. You can get an old amplifier or a used AVR with a phono pre-amp for under $100. Either will have multiple inputs for other components. Pic related was my first setup and everything in the photo cost me $140. Spend the rest of your budget on speakers where it matters.>>108752671You've never been to a live performance?
>>108754257>I was always under the impression many in the generation before me took price in their hi-fi setups, my dad includedWell yeah, and there still are today. But those people are and always were a small minority relative to the average person who just wanted to stick on some background music to ignore whilst cleaning the house or hosting a party. It's more niche than ever now to have a nice hi-fi setup, but that's just because you don't have to any more. If you just want to listen to some music in okay enough quality that it won't make you projectile vomit, a decent Bluetooth speaker will do. If they'd existed in the 80s and 90s, hi-fi setups would have been even more niche then as well. You'd still have the enthusiasts like your dad who appreciated the hardware, but they aren't (and weren't) enough to sustain the market. Which is why the mid-range where you could get a nice setup that sounded good for a reasonable price was largely dead by the late 80s and replaced with a tidal wave of cheap junk. Which in turn cemented the niche status of decent quality audio equipment that's never really changed since.Probably the best time after the 80s for an affordable, decent setup was the mini hi-fis of the late 90s/early 00s, when a bunch of incoming and outgoing formats overlapped and you could get a nice little box that handled cassettes, CDs, MiniDiscs and a radio for a reasonable fee and then attach a decent pair of speakers to it. Those were as close to a resurgence of the average person being exposed to decent quality audio as we got, but they were a passing phase and replaced quickly by digital audio devices. And of course the people who were actually into hi-fi equipment scoffed at them for being completely unremarkable compared to a nice component-based setup.
>>108746114Hopefully, may these lead guzzling decrepids go extinct before I start a family
>>108754672I'd say modern active speakers with bluetooth/streaming/HDMI pretty much fit into the same niche as these mini systems
>>108754672We had several of those all in one hifi towers in the 90s, in fact nearly everyone I knew had one. They all had radio, vinyl, an EQ, double cassette decks, and a CD. The classy ones had multi-tray CDs (could hold 3-5 cds inside). Minidisc was the only niche format and mostly because of Sony dickery: they made it too expensive when it was just halfway between tape and CD, and by 2001 they were killed first by cheap CD burners and portable cd players, then by MP3 players.I only ever saw standalone tape/CD decks in record stores.
Man I don't know why but when I had cheap speakers and cheap headphones it was so easy to EQ them to sound goodBut now with more expensive speakers and more expensive headphones it's like no amount of EQ can make them sound just fucking normal
>>108746114Anti audiophiles are coping thirdie shitskins, poorfags or tone deaftards. The western world is dumber, browner and relatively poorer than ever before. But more consumerist. They are satisfied with their bitstarved goystreams on their goy boxes. They know no difference.
>>108746114i had a minidisc player in highschool and it was neato but mp3 players just totally destroyed it. way to convenient and easy.
music is literally not important enough to warrant listening to it at 999 bitrate vs whatever is fine. imagine giving a shit about a 20 year old singing about his girlfriend
>>108757404>imagine giving a shit about a 20 year old singing about his girlfriend>thinks all music is homopopTone deaf zoomie streamer detected
>>108754116>>108753434How is it even possible for a USB-C amp running on a phone to deliver more electricity than an Apple dongle? There’s a limit to how much the USB port can provide. That’s why desktop amps have a power brick or sometimes a battery.
>>108757404quite possibly the most retarded post I've ever read on 4chan in 15 years
>>108758459Because apple dongle consumes 1% of usb's max power.
>>108754257>vintage Technics P-mountBased. Yes, I've read a bit and seen that vintage hi-fi equipment is often a good way to go because modern equipment is often made to a low price point to use all the same Chinese parts.
>>108747291>even "cheap" consumer gear has long since passed the point of anyone but maybe a dozen people on earth being able to distinguish the quality differenceNo. Amps and DACs are basically solved, but there's no substitute for big speakers. You physically can't play a clean 20Hz sine wave on a small speaker at audible level without destroying it. 20Hz needs over 100000 times the energy compared to 1000Hz at the same perceived level. Some modern sound systems actually introduce deliberate bass distortion to try to trick you into thinking they can play deep bass. It always sounds like shit compared to the real thing.
>>108752573Even the cheapest component systems and boomboxes were better than bluetooth speakers (many of which are mono even if they have two speakers), earbuds by any name, and cell phone speakers.
>>108753990>The difference between mp3 and lossless is actually quite largeProve it:https://abx.digitalfeed.net/lame.320.htmlShould be easy if what you say is true.
>>108746259Yeah the phone screens show normies don't give a fuck about quality.Watching a movie on a big TV is obviously more enjoyable than on a tiny phone, but normies just don't care.
>>108746114It's just music. You're supposed to enjoy it, not try to find that little raspy sound at an exact millisecond. I find it bizarre how much money some people spend on crap just to have slightly better sound or image quality, yet they don't even enjoy the content.
>>108758680That is all true and movies are more fun when you have massive speakers.But most music doesn't sound better with huge speakers and loads of bass.People blast bass to impress their homies, not to enjoy the music.
People gladly listened to scratchy shellac records with zero amplification except a literal fucking horn. The tolerance for low fidelity is extreme, always has been and always will be.
yup I dick bass-blasted your mom and impressed her
>>108746114Good enough is good enough. That's all it ever was.Back when even normies would get a bit autistic about HiFi it was largely due to vinyl and cassette not really being good enough. So they tried to fix its flaws with high end audio gear, somewhat fruitlessly. But then once you got CD most of what they were trying to solve with their Nakamichi Dragons just went away. No more tape hiss, wow or flutter, just music. And so that opened the door to convenience where you could cut off some of the fidelity to make small devices and even though some high frequency information was lost, the perceptual quality was still WAY higher than your walkman.But then the apple earbud thing was and still is mostly about poors trying to look like they have apple money. They probably know they suck, but they want to be seen with white airpods.
>>108746123fpbp
>>108747633schizophrenia
