I'm tired of pretending Linux is an actual alternative to Windows
>>108748158You’re not alone, it’s a pill every autistic has to swallow. Linux systems shine in certain domains, but the desktop is a clusterfuck.
>>108748158it is for metoo bad it isn't for you
i'm tired of pretending i have a choice. Would love to go back to windows xp or 7.
>>108748158I'm a PC fag since birth (except my mom's MSDOS when I was a sprout). Always thought of the switch. What doesn't it do that you'd like it to?
>>108748158skill issue
>>108748158Indeed, but modern Windows is so abominable, what other options do we have?MacOS? LOL no thanks.ReactOS is far from ready, and will probably never be.Windows 10 is shit too, it only seems "good" in comparison with 11, and you can't disable *all* the spyware.Windows 7 is definitely becoming unusable now, no more modern software and hardware work with it, even with VxKex.So we have to do with Linux, it's the least worst option.
>>108748193Photoshop doesn't work there
>>108748158true linux doesn't have nearly enough slop and bloat to compete with windows so it can never be an alternative
>>108748186>Would love to go back to windows xp or 7.I wish older Windows could live on as "Windows distributions" still updated and still compatible with all modern software and hardware.
the real answer is and always will be VIDEO GAMES>muh steam libraryyeah exactly zero popular games work on linux, so have fun playing Among Us or fucking Dota 2
it's like saying a bike is an alternative to a car
>>108748231In that comparison linux is a wheelchair
>>108748212Oh balls. My worries are all the normie comms apps I need for meatfriends like Discord and Zoom, plus all my games are on Steam. I only have one box and zero monies so I can't exactly experiment with putting a whole gnew OS in and hoping I don't brick my shit.
>>108748230yes this was exactly my fear: 108748242
Just drop videogames and you good.
>>108748387bideo games work tho
>>108748158I already replaced my windows machine with Linux distros... I only have a dual boot with one because that desktop has a jewvidia card.
>windows 7 with the classic shell
>>108748193Nobody knows for sure, you have to find a list of things that don't work lol
>>108748158Skill issue.
>>108748456it's dogshit. lots of artifices and bugs. windows vista had the last good classic shell.
>>108748464That sounds like SO much fun :)
>>108748469yjk
>>108748158Sounds like a you problem. Works fine for me.
>>108748193run autodesk/solidworks/ms office/matlab software well. that's all.>>108748230all the popular ones work well, troon. maybe you can't play kernel level anticheat slop but we're doing you a favor
>>108748230i'm having a blast playing shifu and zoom eternal
>>108748604Will try. Thank you sir.
>>108748158It's not and it never will be what it is best at is being what it is and it has it's uses. If you are into tech you will at a minimum have a windows XP Box and SUSE box a Win7 box a win10 box and inevitably a Win11 machine in addition to a few classic computers like amgias, atart sts, commodores, spectrums etc as well as some small single board machines and if you are hardmode you will have a HPUX an AS400 or a Sun system or whatever. What I like to do on SUSE is code in C. It's good for keeping up on what is happening in the linux world and for what it is it is great but it's at it's best when you use it for what it is a cheap and cheerful unix with driver support. I do a good bit of C for little projects like embedded boards, it's a nice for making things like mister boxes or building a synology clone NAS or whatever. Far better for doing your C in but it's not going to run Windows XP era games and applications as well as windows XP etc etcThe desktop is dying and linux will never be more than a niche on it before it's gone forever (quite soon I think) but it's a comfy niche if you use it for what it is and what it can be good for.
>>108748242>normie comms apps I need for meatfriends like Discord and ZoomHey anon, no one you talk to on these things are your friends. You talk to friens in person. If you are talking to people on that shit it's either because they or you are chronically lonley, scammers or live in remote locations but none of that makes them your friends. Friends are people you do real in person things with
>>108748695You're using a stronger (better, I'llbeit) definition of "friends." I agree with you. Nonethever there are folks upon God's green that I'd rather stay in touch with. That's all I mean.
I don't care what any of you use. Good day.
>>108748604wait, matlab can't run on linux?
Why is it not an alternative, OP? It works fine for me
>>108748902>>108748227
>>108748909You're right, it isn't an alternative, its's just the obvious choice for non-retards
I'm tired of pretending Linux is for leet haxors who wear sunglasses and type green code on their monitors just to make the system work and laugh at Windows plebs who need handholding. In reality if you install any mainstream distro it just works and holds your hand all the way through.
>>108748158you are right, windows isn't a proper alternative to linux, which is the best thing we have.
>>108748158It's not. For halfwits, anyway.
>>108748158I don't have to pretend, I've used linux as a daily driver for 5 years. I just used Excel in my win11 VM to see if I'm missing anything and spent longer futzing with the UI than if I'd just vibeslopped some javascript or python to generate the charts I needed.
>>108748886Matlab runs fine on Linux.
>>108748933>I'm tired of pretending Linux is for leet haxors who wear sunglasses and type green code on their monitors just to make the system work and laugh at Windows plebs who need handholding. In reality if you install any mainstream distro it just works and holds your hand all the way through.My cmd console is in green txt and black background though and I use it instead of bash(and everything works)
>>108748158Use case for Windows?
>>108749181I've been on and off and thought I wasn't missing anything on Windows since I was constantly using WSL anyway, but moved to Ubuntu to deal with various memory issues in WSL and things actually work like they should. That was a few months ago, and I won't go back to Windows unless Ubuntu somehow corrupts everything I get, but I think I'm good enough at it that I'll be able to recover from most thing, so I fully intend to stick with it until I get burned again.
>>108748158Tell the people running the world's 500 most powerful supercomputers that they should all migrate to Windows.
>>108749374your pc isn't a supercomputer and you don't have a full team of developers to keep it running next
>>108748158kek
>be me>buy steam deck to replace mac mini>expect linux learning curve>nah lol it just works >haven’t touched windows in over a decade except to help my parents and their laptops >feels good man
>>108748695You can hang out with your real life friends and talk to people online at the same time, stupid. Tell us how much sex you have, now.
>>108748158Good, fuck off. Linux is full enough already.
I keep Windows 10 around for >guitar amp sims>ezdrummer >VST's for keyboardsI'm not a professional musician or anything but I've recorded and fucked with music since I was a kid. Linux simply does not have music software that is good. This doesn't mean windows is good. I see myself getting a mac mini or something whenever the old Windows 10 gaming rig shits the bed or gets too obsolete to use.
>hourly jay niggirwin flamewar troll thread >jay niggirwin samefags himself to save his flamewar troll thread from page 10 after hours of no bites again
>>108748158i recently installed ubuntu 26.04 to give it a spin and see where desktop linux is in 2026.i was pleasantly surprised! the only real issue i faced was the trackpad scroll sensitivity being way too high, so i had to go hunting for a hack solution since gnome doesn’t expose the api for that config. fixed the sensitivity but there’s still something off and unpolished about trackpad scrolling.i actually think this latest ubuntu LOOKS better than windows, it’s just less ergonomic and customizable here and there. that top bar dock for example - should not exist in 2026. put that stuff in the bottom bar, on the right, respect my screen space.overall though, this is very good. much better than macos.
SrslyDefine the use case or gtfo
>>108748230If all you play is multiplayer slop with kernel level anticheats, sure. Otherwise gaming isn't an issue on Linux.
>hourly jay niggirwin flamewar troll thread>>108750671>03:22:33>jay niggirwin samefags himself to save his flamewar troll thread from page 10 after hours of no bites again
>>108748158Microslop Winslop is malware that happens to have a bloated, buggy mess of an OS attached. It's the Indian call center of software.
Finally installed tr**nix since Mint didn't seem so bad. It's been a good enough refuge for me. Didn't have to tinker all that much. I'm content.
>>108748387>dropped videogames>now I can't properly install fl studioyeah linux is still shit
>>108748158True, only the MOST TRACKABLE OS anons. Remember. If the government doesn't know what the fuck is going on you're criminal and subhuman too.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhskk9WEvMo
>>108748158Well maybe it's time to stop pretending and start accepting then.I've completely switched over to linux about 8 months ago and I'm still very content happy about it. Especially pleased to see my vidya work perfectly fine and often even better.I'm never letting myself fall back into microslop's evil clutches. Life feels better without it.
>>108750905Mint and distros like it are the heterosexual men of linux.Only tinkertroons use anything else, especially arch.
>>108748158Same. It's really unfair to compare windows to something lightyears ahead of it.
>>108748387games are the only thing that consistently work
>>108753150>straight dudes are always less competentThis is not a good look. Get your programming socks on and dive in.
>>108748158True and based. There are no other options.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkifbWtxxlk
>>108748166idk bro my desktop works perfectly fine. zero problems ever. no tinkering needed. i had to tinker on windows much more than i ever have on linux.basically, you're gay
>>108748158But it is for most users too bad most of the users are retarded and try to reinvent the wheel.
>>108748230every game works on linux apart from league and EA slop. When you say no game works on linux you're just outing yourself as a pleb
>>108755143Hardly any of them do, and there's always some bug.
>>108748158Wait until you don't have a choice.
>>108748158works flawlessly for me, skill issue 3 iq frogposter
>>108748158>Went to Linux on tail end of W10.>decided at some point to go back to try W11>black screens>go back to Linux >get black screens and crashes to desktop logins nowI get what I deserve, but man I wish I had the IQ to handle this. PC's CPU and GPU are both AMD btw.My current distro mint XFCE edition lasted longer without crashing. No idea what I'm doing wrong with what is causing these crashes. I just wanna play games man.
>>108755157>there's always some bugEvery piece of software has bugs you retard
>>108755241Look how enraged the lintard gets when you insult their "lifestyle". Yes, moron. Here we're talking about bugs introduced in the translation layers to get games to function on loonix, you incorrigible retard.
>>108755306idk what bugs hes talking about (havent experienced any) but your cadence reeks of redditor
>>108755157every game works on linux because devs are forced to make games compatible with the steam deck, the only games that don't are like I said league and EA games. You keep repeating games dont work yet you provide no proof
>>108755357>provide no proofI list a game, and what you’re going to admit you’re wrong? No, you’ll just say the game doesn’t matter and run away like you won something. Instead, research this for yourself and look for issues with Steam games on linux, you’ll find as many examples as you need to convince yourself that it isn’t perfect. Of course, you won’t do that either, because you’d prefer to lie to yourself.
>>108755194>PC's CPU and GPU are both AMD btw.Welcome to the AMD club, now you know why people hate them.
>>108755381Well this sucks. Am I screwed? Or are there remedies for my predicament?
>hourly jay niggirwin flamewar troll thread>>108752897>09:56:50>>108753635>11:51:46>>108754611>14:29:18>>108755143>16:23:09>>108755868>18:54:48>jay niggirwin samefags himself to save his flamewar troll thread from page 10 after hours of no bites again
>>108755868Report your issues here and hope they get fixed:https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issuesMy AMD machine is stable now but in the beginning it was a fucking nightmare of crashes and general instability, what really helped was downclocking my RAM and downgrading my motherboard BIOS (newer versions are broken for my CPU).
>>108756381>21:22:57>jay niggirwin samefags himself to save his flamewar troll thread from page 10 after hours of no bites again
I don't think that Linux was ever supposed to be considered as an alternative to Windows, Windows is like a shitty playground a few retarded fucks threw in billions of dollars for and ever single fucking retard on the world just used it without a question. I don't think people who use their computer without the daily usage of a shell, a package manager, or freedom in choice over everything, like BSD, Hurd and Linux does for users, I don't think they really deserve to own a computer. Long live actually using your computer and Freedom baby.
I wish WINE worked better with less fucking around for baldurs gate video games t freebsd15 icewm on 8g ram desktop hp z240I really wish some free software people would make more games.....myth2 clone and baldurs gate clones with ability to add new monsters people and spells and shit be epic
>>108748211u forgot haiku the BEOS baby
>>108748158Have you heard of this thing called LiveJounal? If not then you should definitely check it out. Perfect for what you're doing.
>>108748212the GIMP doesso does ffmpeg and imagemagick
as a long time windows guy currently playing around with ubuntu 26.04, i unironically am considering officially switching. having docker just werk is really nice, and there’s something about 26 that just feels much more polished than previous ubuntu.howeveri play gaymes like 2-3 times a year so while it isn’t my priority, i don’t like the idea of switching to an os where i *literally* CAN’T do it.i also can’t escape the fact that the linux ecosystem is so fractured and important parts of it rely on severely mentally ill individuals, that whatever magic came together to produce the recent ubuntu LTS, could completely fall apart in like 1 week
>>108756420retarded stallman garbage. do you make the same demands of your toaster and fridge or is it just SWE labor that is meant to be free?even at this late date where foss has caused immense harm via giving LLM’s so much training data, freetards wont shut up with their tranny schizo delusions
>>108756514>do you make the same demands of your toaster and fridgeYes.>shut up schizo trannyProject harder.
>>108748230baldurs gate myth2yea I had no fun getting bg2 working I started but had inch toward bottom not showing the screen stuff had to resize and there was some lag on my old faggy laptop I keep at maine cabinI am getting old windows desktop out of garage now
>look at open source project>ctrl F whatever it's called, switch it to something you made up>close the source>sell it for moneyfreetards have made me rich.
>>108748670the desktop is coming backsomeoen should do a phone to desktop chat like pidgin which was peak computingchatting with all friends no matter of yahoo aol or msnepicphone are huge dildo pain in ass gimmick meme
>>108749106/threadbased and munger pilled inversion thinking
>>108749181nigger Im on archlinux or bsd since 2008
>>108748212Photoshop's main competitor Affinity works in Linux (only the login and subscription-based AI tools are missing), which covers the needs of most users. There is also a good free web clone of Photoshop called Photopea.Otherwise you can use the web version of Photoshop, or run Photoshop in a VM layer like Winboat (though no GPU acceleration unless you have a second dedicated GPU).People bring up GIMP, but its development is really slow. Only recently did it get non-destructive image editing, and it is still not seamless or feature-complete.Until Linux's marketshare grows further (or the EU forces European professional work programs to make Linux ports as part of the EU digital sovereignty agenda), someone who needs a professional programs not native to Linux for work should dual boot or have separate PCs. But the general computing experience in Linux is far superior and it will only get better.
>>108748158It's bad for the economy
>>108748158 tired of pretending modern spyware pajeetos is an actual viable OS?
>>108755868ignore that retard. amd has the best drivers for linux
>>108748212stop parroting this, almost everyone who uses Photoshop professionally is on Mac
>>108748158I guess you're conflating "alternative" with "1:1 substitute", linux IS an alternative, it's a matter of what you deem reasonable to exchange for something else.To me (in 2006) the overall design, stack and system interaction was worth the change from windows, even at the cost of losing the MS level of universal support.
>>108748158what's with all you negroids and pretending in the first place
>>108756765>just ignore your own eyes bro