Why do so many artists hate AI artwork? It's not even that they dislike it, they have this visceral hatred of it and think that no one should use it. Why?
>>108750047people hate things they don't understand.
>>108750047People just like to feel like they're on the side of good. It's virtue signalling, I think. Most don't really care, they're just bored and want to pretend to care about something.
>>108750047I was involved with the online art community pre AI and a lot of the people complaining today just want to keep getting away with charging $100-$200 for commissions that would take them 30 minutes max, industry professionals don't give a fuck, it's all literally who trannies who think they should be making a living by drawing 1 hour a day at most
I know that this is the technology board so that means you're forced to side with all things technology-related, but you people can't be this fucking clueless
>>108750047AI is inherently anti-human, and the normalization of AI artwork will cause less artists to be created as everyone satisfied themselves with AI creations, not seeking to grow as people and being hollow outside of just being a meat bag that can prompt an LLM. Society will degrade as people use their brains less and become more reliant on AI to make decisions and do things for them, to the point where humans will be unable to even exercise their own creativity whatsoever, causing humanity to stagnate and then fall.If you thought iPad toddlers were bad, imagine a future where chatgpt toddlers grow up, having offloaded all their thinking to a chatbot, then raising their kids that way, and their kids, until in a few generations nobody knows how to do anything other than ask a chatbot what to do. Additionally, nothing AI creates can be art. Art is any work that can be created by humans and involves the conscious application of creativity and passion, AI can make images but not art. I think the one good thing it will do is make the divide of who are cattle and who are thinkers more apparent to those who don't see it. Zombies walking the earth asking gpt to do everything for them, to come up with their ideas for them, to draw their images, will be very apparent.
>>108750047>It's not even that they dislike it, they have this visceral hatred of it I am not artist and I visceral hate this soulless shit. It is shit on every possible level except "I CAN GET ILLEGAL PORN GENERATED LOOK LOOK". Try to not being a fucking bugman maybe
>>108750296See? I am ESL and tired as shit burned out man, I do mistakes like in this post. These mistakes are me. If I tell bobot to "make it good", it will be corporate shomoslop instead of my post. Now take apply it to any art and you will have 1/?? of problems with "AI" "doing it"
>>108750296It's one thing to dislike AI slop it's another to be an absolute luddite about the technology itself Are content farms and degenerates using AI to produce dogshit content? YesIs AI awesome because I can use it how I want? Also yes
They're not worth thinking about. They want to be mad and they want you to be mad. Just ignore them until their heart and veins give to the self imposed pressure. Don't let their poison spill into you. Instead focus on things that are not hateful, anything else is better.
>>108750289How does this apply to AI but not other things like industrialization?
>>108750047>one click>7 seconds>outputs the thing that is "better" than 99.4% of all artists that would have taken them weeksjeez i wonder why
>>108750422It does, but to a lesser extent. Yes, someone doing modern digital art is going to have to out in less effort than someone doing a hand brushed painting, so there is inherently less effort into the end result and a lower bar for entry. But at the least, digital art requires technique, ability to use the tools, you still need to know how to draw and you have to come up with your own ideas. AI images remove any and all effort from it. If you think of an image as the sum of the effort that went into it, you can imagine a renaissance painting as a couple buckets of paint, brushes, and a person with high skill, as well as time and creativity. For digital art it could be something like a drawing tablet and pen, and a person with high skill, creativity, and a bit less time. With AI "art" you have a person who only needs to be able to string a sentence together (so basically no creativity at all) and a magic "make the end result" box. It's not even a comparable gap. If you look at a piece of work and you see the effort that went into it, you can look at an ai image as the sentence that went into creating it and it becomes immediately less impressive. Any form of art that was eased by industrialization at least still has the human creativity aspect of it, so even if digital music is easier than writing a symphony, at least in both cases you're coming up with it from your own brain. AI cuts this out completely, able to generate an end result from a simple sentence that you could train a chimp to do, or a toddler.
>>108750047I dislike the slop/churn aspect, but not the technology or advancements themselves.You can easily get to a level where you realise you need to fill in the gaps AI art misses by upskillig properly
>>108750047Because AI steals their jobs. Simple as
>>108750422NTA but it certainly does. Jacques Ellul wrote a whole book about it in the 60s. Walter Benjamin wrote an essay in 1935 specifically about how mechanically reproduced art will naturally lend itself to the installation of totalitarianism unless we make a conscious effort to resist it. Once AI output becomes virtually indistinguishable from human-made artefacts, tailor-made and targeted propaganda can be effortlessly and automatically made by the regime. It goes far beyond the dilution or corruption of aesthetics. In some ways it already has fulfilled this role in society by easily tricking many people; enough to disrupt the entire economy, soon to reprogram people by replacing how they interact with (dis)information. As an example: have you tried Googling lately? It's abysmal, you cannot find anything via the regular search engine. This is probably by design to push you toward their AI chatbot, which we all know are very carefully trained and censored by the powers that be. They have even conditioned us to accept there may be "hallucinations" by the chatbots, providing a mechanism for them to discredit historical or factual information. It doesn't take much imagination to see how may continue unfettered toward complete domination of society. Keep in mind all of the above is predicated on the continued total control of these AI systems by the technocratic elite in government and Big Tech. Willful disobedience is our only hope to escape this grim future, while a large and growing percentage of people have no desire to resist.
>>108750422It absolutely does. Look at modern cars, modern buildings, modern flat pack furniture. Maybe more efficient, maybe more technically superior but artistically soulless and god awful.
