>>108751804fuck off
>>108751804
>>108751804put all in junk
>>108751804secureblue in Supreme, everything else in Junk.
>>108751804gentoo in Supreme, the rest of the chart blank
this is the one
https://tiermaker.com/create/linux-distributions-by-titus-15917706
>>108751947Antix is basically just Arch Linux without systemd which makes it overall worse except "i don't like how it goes against my unix philosophy" (doesn't matter).
>>108751804For what? PC or Server OS? Because Debian/Ubuntu are the kings for Linux servers.
>>108751804Where is le smug mouse?
>>108751947Show us your LFS fastfetch
>>108751804>the only good distro>junk tierThis is what redditors actually believe. I will never understand using distros that require you to rebase every six months and set up third party repositories for core packages like codecs and drivers just because... Firefox took a half second longer to boot up on Ubuntu five years ago? Because you run lsblk without flags all fucking day? It's hard to believe anyone recommending Debian of all things to normies even knows what microcode is.
>>108752011It started mattering when systemd started implementing state imposed telemetry.
>>108752160dont have a fetch installed, nor any other bloat, but here is a new system im installing for my server. BTW did you know just how massive fastfetch is? Check the source, you would expect it to be small, but it's a gigantic project and I don't like such massive codebase for a simple fetch.>>108752011systemd is a real issue for some people (me) and having more choices (artix) is much superior obviously
>>108751804remove any distro that has been around less than 5 years for business/new users. put them in the 'flavor of the month' tier longevity and development history is important things like fedora,nix,arch,opensuse,debian are not comparable to >this month's arch install scriptcachy now is what manjaro and others used to be a few years back and next year its gonna be something else
>>108752295One potential concern with cachyOS is them having separate repositories. Currently you can switch back and forth between theirs and the arch repositories without any real issues but that might not last. EndeavourOS might be a safer bet."arch but easier installation" will remain popular as long as Arch Linux itself remain good (and for a time past that as well).
>>108751804>mint>not amazing for new usersIt erased any hesitation I had left about going Linux only for life within the first day of using it. Its just so fucking easy even with an nvidia card it just works.CachyOS is great too, but Mint just lets you feel at home right away.
>>108752381>AntiGPLOS
>>108752423you're right cachy isnt 'just an arch installscript' they do shit like having a x86-64-v4 repo vs arch which only have plain x86. but i still give a massive weight in 'distro tier lists' for longevity. i think if you're raking a distro out of 10 atleast 4 of those points should be given for every 5 years it's been around. arch fedoa and debian have been around 20-30 years where's cachy didnt exist 3 years ago.i do think its right now a better experience than regurarly installing arch for most people's use case but thats what manjaro was a few years ago and it might go away like manjaro's hype did
>>108752623Manjaro has been badly mismanaged which caused people to lose trust in them.
>>108751804Move Linux Mint to Amazing for New UsersMove Debian and Ubuntu to Best for BusinessMove Bazzite and ElementaryOS to Junk
Your flavor of Linux is NOT a personality.
>No Poppy>No MX>No Deepin>No Tuxedo>No BluestarOP is a fake distro hopper
>>108752802MX and Deepin are both on there
>>108752802>>108752833nobody ever has installed or used MX, it's just a Distrowatch meme
>>108751881I don't recognize the other symbols besides mint, Arch and Debian on that tierlist.What are the others?
>>108752011systemd is AIDS, Lennart.
>>108751804Kali is best for script kiddie larpers.
>>108751804cachy isnt best for new users. it has a more complicated software discovery app as well as software updater. it comes bundled with apps most nufigs wouldnt know how to use. i dont know where this meme comes from. basically no arch based distro is good for beginners
Void being doo-doo tier on these lists is crazy.
>>108753575Why do you dislike opensuse tumbleweed ?
>>108753575how is arch a tinker distro but not gentoo
>>108753575Best image ITT. I had forgotten how much Gentoo's logo looks like Mentlegen and the memes created from that.+10 Izzat to Fedora-dore.
The funniest thing to me is seeing all the mental midgets putting Alpine in the bottom tiers, clearly showing they have no idea what they are talking about, confirmed by them putting Arch at the top because they saw some "I use arch btw" memes on Youtube.
>>108751804start by kys, the troon distros will fall right off
>>108751804Which ones work for the user and not the user working for the OS to get it to function?
https://tiermaker.com/list/technology/linux-distributions-by-titus-15917706/6197312
>>108751804Mint or Ubuntu for a neighbour who doesn't know what a computer is?
>>108754125Honestly i don't think mint and ubuntu are idiot-proof enough. Especially not ubuntu (considering their malware incidents).
>>108751804Move Debian up alongside Arch, and rename "Amazing for New Users" to "meme distros".
>>108753819If you're talking about desktop distros, Alpine is in fact shit-tier. That's not what Alpine is really intended for.
>>108751804Good morning sir, I've noticed you do not have BACKTRACK LINUX DISTRIBUTION on your tier list.
>>108751804Stable af, rolling-release, binary-based. Pick two, then install Arch, Debian, or Gentoo.
>>108751804>tfw fall for "you need LTS distro for a home server" memeI wish a went for an Arch Linux on my home server
>>108751804you have brown hands op>>108753575based and correct
>>108751903if pictures could smell, this one would smell like curry and shitting in the streets
99% of distros could be deleted and no one would notice. Every distro just increases the attack surface for CVEs. Same with every Chromium and Firefox clone.
>>108754269I never get an answer on why opensuse tumbleweed was shit. Care to elaborate?
>>108751804RHEL and Debian in "ok", everything else in "shit"
>>108751804>no Gabe OSall other distros that push the hardware will fall before the true gamer OS
why not throw desktop envs into the cesspit
Everyone here says to install Gentoo and that I'm a poser for using Arch but I'm slowly realizing there's little incentive besides it being cool, I realized here the other day here there's nothing's stopping you from compiling your own packages with yay. I have yet to have someone sell it to me completely.
Even valve realized stable release distros are garbage for multiple reasons1. You need an up to date kernel for hardware support like new CPU's and performance gains2. Bugs can't be patched as easy as a rolling release distros and arch generally has better support for valve's goals3. The best desktop on linux, KDE, is the only one which is actually serious about rivaling windows 11 with feature parity, and it needs to be up to dateSo basically, shit just needs to be up to date. I'm using cachy right now, that is until valve releases a desktop version of steamOS. Then I'll make the switch full time to that. Most normies will only probably switch to linux when its officially released by valve.
>>108751804>manjaro not in junklol
>>108751947>Mint behind UbuntuHow did they fuck up so bad? The entire reason it even exists is because it was supposed to be a better Ubuntu. Mint probably won't even be around several years from now at this rate.
>>108754798Why the fuck would you switch to SteamOS when you're already on CachyOS? You want to be on a locked-down system maintained by corporate amerimutts that badly? CachyOS already does literally everything you need a gaming-centric OS to do.
>>108754830There were a bunch of distributions that needed to be added to the junk category. Tried adding manjaro but ran into a problem with the site. Ended up adding a bunch more later https://tiermaker.com/list/technology/linux-distributions-by-titus-15917706/6197767
>>108751804>arch top>rest is junk>no changes needed
Arch + KDE is literally perfect, anything else is a downgrade
>>108751804You put Windows at Supreme.
>>108751804There should be only three Tiers:- Beginner = Ubuntu / Mint- Intermediate = Fedora / Debian- Advanced = ArchEverything else is snake oil.
>>108755046Swap Ubuntu with CachyOS and drop Mint and Debian since they're shit.
>>108755055>swap the most use, tried and true distro for a literally who maintained rolling release distro with heavy kernel modificationsWhat causes this autism?>mint and Debian are shitOh nevermind, you're just a poser.
>>108755079Ubongo is a glowie distro with a negroid name. Debian is unusable for desktops and is pointless for servers these days with better options out there. Mint is just a worse Ubongo.
>>108751804suse tumbleweed should be in supreme
>>108754125
>>108751804If your package manager isn't as fast as pacman, it's not a real distro.
>>108751804to actually set arch up in a way that it achieves security and functionality parity to what big distros like fedora/ubuntu/even debian are like out of the box is effectively a full time jobit's easy to get a basic arch installation running. it's significantly harder and more time consuming to get it running the right waymost people don't know this and i'd bet a lot of money that the vast majority of arch installs are extremely basic and insecure
>>108755131Seems like we have 1 big fan of opensuse tumbleweed here while nobody else cares much for it. It is 4K ahead of Arch Linux when it comes to packages in official repositories but far behind the AUR. https://repology.org/repositories/statistics/newest
>>108754734For retards like you and the average scum that frequents this website following a manual is a massive flex. People use Gentoo as a badge for basic literacy and ability to follow guides.If you post something stupid but you use Gentoo people will at least give you the benefit of the doubt, because surely someone who managed to follow a proper guide and maintains a Gentoo installation wouldn't be as retarded as your average 4chan poster, or if he is he'd be literate enough to understand your potential reply.
>>108751804actually and literally the stupidest list i have ever seen
>>108753380the only legit list in this entire thread
>>108751804throwing like 90% of the options into a vague "certain use cases" dumping ground makes this list completely pointless. when i see that, i think "this guy knows nothing about these distros but is too much of a pussy to call any of them junk"
>>108751804do you like LTSC distro or Education Distro more of windows 10?
>>108755876>>108755907>Debian not shitgood morning saars
>>108755929I don't know i heard good things about it, but i already had a really good working distro so i never hopped off to try itWindows 10 Education is a really good distro.Although i am doing a reinstall after a nice stable install over 5 years old.
>>108755934>I don't know i heard good things about itthose are jeets who say good things about d*biancome to Arch, the White Man's Distro
>>108751881This is the correct opinion. Thread ended hete.
>>108751804>retarded categories>literal-who distros>>108751811fpbp
>>108751804>SupremeNone>Amazing for new usersBazzite, Ubuntu, Zorin, Mint>JunkGaruda, Artix, Deepin, PopOS, PCLinuxOS, Slackware, Gentoo, Elementary, KDE Neon, Solus, Void>Certain use casesEverything else I guess
>>108751804>best and most popular distro in junkyep, I'm on /g/ alright
>>108757172>Ubuntu>bestThat title was taken away from it years ago.
>>108751804Swap supreme and junk, and merge everything in between into one "don't care" tier.
Arch for rolling releaseDebian for stableFedora for something inbetween Literally everything else is a meme and barely has any use case
>>108757938>Debian for stableUbuntu*I wouldn't trust Debian since it's utterly dysfunctional and currently a borderline collapsing project.
>>108751804Nobody gives half of a fuck about tier lists. They serve no purpose, nobody will look at yours, it's not informing anything. Stop wasting time on bullshit and go wash your ass, you goblin.
>>108757988It's in the name really. Dude named it after his now exwife.
>>108755876Win2k is the GOAT
>>108757172https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3eSWSy93qk
>>108751804good morning sir I noticed yo don't have TEMPLEOS LINUS DISTRIBUTING
>>108758230It's not linux. Same with freeBSD.
>>108751881Why put void in devil tier
>>108758230>>108758245good morning sir I have changed mind I am adding TEMPLEOS LINUS DISTRIBUTING in the next version of tier listing
>best for ze business>linuxLO
>>108751804For a non-business, the only distros worth using are Debian or Fedora. Its that simple. Everything else is either based on them, or is a toy.
>supreme>arch, gentoo, GNU GUIX
>>108753380Surprising to find one that isn't horribly opinionated, bait or a shitpost. Only thing I would ask is is Puppy really good enough to be supreme? Real question as I don't have much experience with it outside of briefly using it on an old craptop.
>>108751804>Arch>Systemd>Somehow S tier and not lumped in with debian.Youre a fucking retard.
>>108751804Yes
>>108759750Apple fanboy?
https://tiermaker.com/list/technology/linux-distributions-by-titus-15917706/6199890
FTFY
Fixed
>>108753380best list, I'd put Puppy in certain use cases tho
>>108760030Shouldn't Mint be in the "Amazing for New Users" tier?
>>108760091>X11 DEsNo. It's a worse ZorinOS.
>>108760127X11 bitching from a user standpoint is over blown
I've got two SSDs on with Pop OS and one with Void. I love using both, but for now, Pop is my daily.I don't care about "my n00b distro" - it works and that's all I care about. Void is fun too, but I can't be fucked to tinker shit when it breaks for no reason.>NOOO MUH SYSTEMD MUH AGE VERIFICATIONDon't care. Linux has become more mainstream and as such it's been overtaken by normalcattle. That means, it's a losing battle, so I am not going to lose sleep or up time worrying about bullshit I have no control over.
>>108755103>Debian is unusable for desktopsWorks fine for me
>>108760863It's outdated af unless you go for debian unstable.
>>108753575Correct.
>>108753435In supreme it's Artix, Gentoo and Slackware.The last two in "Amazing for New Users" it's DeepIn - a chink distro that's surprisingly well made, and Peppermint - Russian Linux Mint that uses XFCE.Best for Business has Alpine - an embedded distro that uses GNU alternatives, OpenSuse which has many business related solutions, Ubuntu - backed by canonical, KDE Neon which should have all you need to be productive.Certain usecases include distros specifically for pentesting, OPSEC and gaming.Everything in the devil category is some crap trannies hacked together to subvert the Linux community.
definitive
>>108752665From what i've found in my last 12 years of loonix is that the different distros are ultimately just different combinations of software projects combined together as a complete package with some major branching lineage off one another. From this different people see and want different behaviors and options and haves different use cases out of their OS. So there are personality aspects of, do you want an immutable base image or do you want bleeding edge package releases that break everything. Because my one box that needs the bare minimum OS to run docker containers is going to have different needs then my media center pc which is different then my desktop. All the while i'll never touch immutable fedora on all of them because I hate all the bullshit for updating packages or touching kernel modules.
>>108760524"Why is my screen flickering? Windows didn't used to do that!">>108761433Sometimes there are bugs in newer distros that Debian saves you from.
>>108754798>GNOME Calculator on KDEInteresting choice
I would place Ubuntu on the same tier as Debian because they now offer AMD64-v3, I dont think Debian even has v3 yet, thats huge for performance.
>>108757997>nobody will look at yoursTrue. It would be better if OP just listed some distros with his opinion on each.>Stop wasting time on bullshit and go wash your ass, you goblinrofl
>>108751804Why is everything in Linux tranny blue colored?
>>108761433>It's outdatedWhy does that matter?
>>108763662>Sometimes there are bugs in newer distros that Debian saves you from.But much more often than not there are bugs in Debian that you have to live with for 2 years or software features that you want but won't get for over a year.
>>108763813It matters because Linux only started being a viable PC OS just recently and being 1-2 years behind means you're not taking advantage of any newer improvements. Especially if you use newer hardware, it will barely work. Also security. Being outdated means any security issue that is not explicitly assigned a CVE will not be fixed on Debian. And most software doesn't have CVEs assigned to it, it's mainly the kernel, web browsers and server-related libraries.Rolling and semi-rolling releases are superior on consumer systems. LTS is only good for minimal and controlled systems like servers, containers, IoT devices.
>>108764799>Linux only started being a viable PC OS just recentlyI've been using Linux since 2004 when I got an Ubuntu CD mailed to me.>if you use newer hardware, it will barely work.I use an i5 750 and a RX470. Debian works perfectly. >Also security. Being outdated means any security issue that is not explicitly assigned a CVE will not be fixed on Debian.Never been an issue
debian is supreme. community maintained, minimal and live installs, huge repos, compatibility, stable, solid package manager, lts and testing for you to choose.nasa uses it for a reason.
>>108765236>debian is supremethe only caveat to this is that testing/unstable do not have security commitments. use stable if you want a dedicated security team backporting fixes to you.
>>108765144>I use 12 year old hardware, Debian works fine!>I used Linux back when it was a complete dumpster fire, Linux was always easy!Yeah, kys.
>>108763110Welp das it, I totally agree with this. Maaaybe put Ubuntu in the new users category but it's fine also in supreme.I don't care what autists say.
>>108763110PopOS is a meme distro. What's the other thing, Void? It's a meme distro too. The distinction between "meme good" and "meme bad" is arbitrary, they're all bad. KDE Neon is a dead distro and replaced with KDE Linux.Also, if we're strictly talking about desktop usage I would change some things around, like moving Debian out of supreme.Everything else seems okay. Although I wouldn't say Endeavour and Cachy are good for new users, unless we're strictly talking about techie people.
>>108751804archlinux does not work
>>108765377You're claiming to speak for all users in saying Debian isn't suitable as a desktop OS. In reality many people upgrade their hardware once or twice a decade and need a stable system to get work done, frequent updates and changes are an inconvenience, not something to get excited over and updating every two years is perfectly fine.
>>108765507>frequent updates and changes are an inconvenienceNot having access to the latest software when you need it is a much bigger inconvenience.
>>108765525>>108765507Also, there is a reason why almost nobody uses Debian as a desktop. It basically has no users compared to Fedora, Arch and Ubuntu and distros based on these 3.
>>108765525Why do you "need" the latest software? Does the version you've been using without issue suddenly stop working when a newer version is released?
>>108765565The version I use is shit and/or bugged and is fixed in the latest update.
>>108765577Ok, so then why do you need to update again a month later after that version? Does it suddenly become shit as soon as the next version comes out, and then the one after that and so forth? So by your reasoning every version is shit and updating doesn't matter.
>>108758801This times one burrillion.
Don't care, still using Ubuntu on my servers because of sane defaults.
>>108765651>so then why do you need to update again a month later after that versionI don't, you're moving goalposts. I just needed that one update to fix my shit, but Debian won't have it for the next year or two so I'm either stuck on shit software or I need to jump to a better distro.It's always better to have an option to update, than not have any options at all.Linux has the most retarded way of software distribution and software distribution on Linux is one of the primary reasons why Linux was a complete joke of an OS until flatpaks, appimages and wine/proton became popular. The whole reason why those exists is because the "distro" model doesn't work. And this isn't just me saying it, the creator of Linux agrees. And even the distributions themselves agree, otherwise they wouldn't make exceptions by making stuff like web browsers rolling release.
>>108765692>If account auth error, no security updates for you>Sane
>>108753575>Alpine meme tierIts only one of the most popular base images for containers, clearly a meme.
>>108765914Yes, Docker is a meme, you lifeless wagie.
>>108763110Move debian to dead and ubuntu to meme (bad)
>>108765714>I don't, you're moving goalposts.I'm not. You just don't understand your own argument.> I just needed that one update to fix my shitOk, so the only issue with Debian is that one update and the next version of Debian is actually perfectly fine? Obviously you're implying that's not the case but then you're accusing me of moving goalposts for taking your argument to its natural conclusion.You don't seem to realise there's a logical inconsistency in your argument. The fact you like updating and having the newest versions of software is an opinion, not an objective reason why Debian is unsuitable for desktops. Many people with so not care about the latest versions, or find frequent updates to be a disruptive nuisance. No new version is ever perfect so whether you get the update now or in two years is a personal preference.
>>108751804>A tier is amazing for new users>manjaro isn't in junkfanboy chart.
>>108766118nta yeah bro cause I wanted libav on my system. ok f.am
>>108754696Unironically this. Cinnamon mogs everything else so hard.
>>108766141>Tears display output in your path
>>108765257half true, unstable get its security from the main pacakages devs, like any other rolling release and testing got a small team. the thing is: stable need it more, bacause they are frozen, thst doesnt mean testing/sid is no men's land.
>>108766150>half true, unstable get its security from the main pacakages devsWith zero claims to timely patches. Unlike stable.
>>108766156https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/mostly of what ive found on stable/unstable is unimportant, very few for the amount of packages on both. again, its no no-mens-land.
>>108765418Distros that are actually contributing to the space (e.g. making a DE, package manager, etc) aren't memes. >>108765236Debian is maintained by Canonical.
oh yeah, >remote = nonothingburger.>>108766249no, its not. but thanks to them we share a lot of people and are very compatible, so yeh thanks canonical.
