https://www.ecopv-eu.com/en/blog-en/replaceable-smartphone-batteries-2027-eu-regulation/What's up my fellow itoddlers?
Will people in the US benefit from this like with the USB-C regulation or will they only make a removable battery version for the EU?
>>108753120why would the third world benefit from an European law ?
>>108753043iKiddies are gonna be flooding the internet saying that the EU is stifling innovation again.
>>108753043I can't wait for Apple to invent removable batteries
can't wait for a phone that runs on rechargeable triple A batteries
>>108753043Apple has lobbied and made it so that batteries that retain a certain capacity at a certain number of charges are exempt. Don't expect to be able to change iThing batteries soon.
>>108753120>Will people in the US benefit from this like with the USB-C regulationdid Americans benefit from this? most of the smartphone makers have left the US market except for Appleeven Samsung only makes and sells US versions of their flagships
>>108753304When Apple put USB-C in the iPhone 15 to satisfy EU regulations, it was applied worldwide and not just in the EU.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiP1l7jlIIA&t=3004s
>>108753338It's a shame they were forced to do this. Apple nearly went bankrupt following this, nobody wanted an iPhone anymore, Tim Apple even fucking KILLED HIMSELF life on stage during that presentation and shrieked "TAKE THAT, URSULA! YOU MADE ME DO THIS!!!!" moments before he fucking pulled the trigger.I mean, that's what Macrumors people told me would happen.
>remove the ability to change the battery just so your phone can remain underwater a few seconds longerNever understood that choice.Don't tell me they can't isolate the components from the battery to keep them sealed, that would require actual innovation and not just a new trick to force planned obsolescence.
>>108753293Law says 80% at 1000 cycles. I don't think they're there.
>>108753721They will find some company which will certify that their batteries do that much.By the time the ruse is up, they will have sold enough of those phones and Epstein's bestie will threaten 6,000,000% tariffs if the EU dares to enforce the law and penalize them.
>>108753293>>108753721Misinformation. The only exemptions for the replacability of batteries by consumers are the following from Art. 11, paragraph 2 & 3:> 2. By way of derogation from paragraph 1, the following products incorporating portable batteries may be designed in such a way as to make the battery removable and replaceable only by independent professionals:> (a) appliances specifically designed to operate primarily in an environment that is regularly subject to splashing water, water streams or water immersion, and that are intended to be washable or rinseable;> (b) professional medical imaging and radiotherapy devices, as defined in Article 2, point (1), of Regulation (EU) 2017/745, and in vitro diagnostic medical devices, as defined in Article 2, point (2), of Regulation (EU) 2017/746.>> The derogation set out in point (a) of this paragraph shall only be applicable where such derogation is required to ensure the safety of the user and the appliance.>> 3. The obligations laid down in paragraph 1 shall not apply where continuity of power supply is necessary and a permanent connection between the product and the respective portable battery is required to ensure the safety of the user and the appliance or, for products that collect and supply data as their main function, for data integrity reasons.Source: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:32023R1542#art_11
>>108754004 (cont.)Note that Art 11, paragraph 4 allows the EU Commision to exempt further classes of products through delegated acts:> 4. The Commission is empowered to adopt delegated acts in accordance with Article 89 to amend paragraph 2 of this Article by adding further products to be exempted from the removability and replaceability requirements laid down in paragraph 1 of this Article. Such delegated acts shall be adopted only on account of market developments and technical and scientific progress, and provided that there are scientifically grounded concerns over the safety of end-users removing or replacing the portable battery, or in cases where there is a risk that the removal or the replacement of the battery by end-users would be in violation of any product safety requirements provided for by applicable Union law.However, no such delegated acts have been ratified yet. The first is still in draft and in active consultation:https://environment.ec.europa.eu/news/commission-seeks-views-battery-removability-exemptions-2026-04-28_enThe EU Commission propopes to add six new exempt product categories. None of them involve smart phones. And none of them involve batteries that keep to thresholds such as remaining above X% level of maximum capacity after Y charge cycles.You can also find more detailed information on application of the relevant articles of law including the existing exemptions in their official guidelines correspondence:https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=OJ:C_202500214
>>108754057 (cont.)Also, they literally just also put a bullet in Apple's favorite anti-consumer practice of using cryptographic parts-pairing.It's officially illegal.> Software limitations>> Article 11(8) requires that software shall not be used to impede the replacement of a portable battery or LMT battery, or of their key components, with another compatible battery or key components.> While software can be used to establish communication between a product and a replacement battery to ensure the correct functionality and safety of the product, such software should not impede the replacement of the original battery with a compatible battery as described above.>> An example of software that impedes replacement is the practice known as ‘parts-pairing’. This is made possible by serialisation of some spare parts (including batteries) that are paired to an individual unit of a device using software. When serialisation leads to pairing a part to a product unit, it can be detrimental to repair. In such cases, if a product component, including a battery, needs replacing during a repair, it might not be accepted, or might lose some of its functionality unless remotely paired to the device again via software controlled by the original manufacturer.
>>108753043commie land stiffling innovation again
>>108754213I don't need innovation, I need a phone that lasts 25 years. I want to stop caring about consumerism and social status.
>>108754004Boy, those sure are a lot of letters! I think I'm going to go with my gut feeling about this.EU ITODDLERS SHIT COMMUNIST ANTI AMERICAN BAD INNOVATION
>>108753120Americans will be mad at this for some reason.
>>108754260Same reason EU is mad at trump for some reason
>>108754264See? The burger got mad and immediately started dick riding his president lol
>>108754450MY PRESIDENT. Yeah.EU doesn't even have a president.
>>108754453>EU doesn't even have a president.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidents_of_the_European_Union
>>108753043iTODDLERS BTFO
>>108754213enjoy having to buy a new phone every year, not because it is broken in any way but because the battery got worn out. still usable, but policy decided replacing batteries is COMMUNISM
Yay! We finally get replacable batteries back, and all we have to give up is our freedom with phones full of backdoors and vpn's being illegal to use or talk about
>>108754004>>108754057I think you're just reading the law wrong and applying only what you want it to say.
Someone think of the poor megacorporation
>>108758418/threadI hate AI, but when it comes to parsing EU regulations, you're better off using a decent model to search through the shit for you, since as this model found, there is a 2nd law that explicitly allows flagships to not use removable batteries.
Manufacturers will just limit charge/discharge within a certain range that maximizes lifetime over peak capacity, sort of like in electric cars.
>>108753304I'm pretty sure people did in fact benefit from being able to use common and cheap usb-c cables over a meme proprietary spec.
>>108758819said "meme proprietary specs" could charge a phone in 2 minutes from empty to full, meanwhile enjoy your USB-C common denonimator of 2 hours
Honestly all EU did is make me want to buy Apple products now.
>>108754213>stiffling innovation by making devices more consumer friendly, actually encouraging end-user benefiting innovation LOL, are you also against the right to repair cuck?Imagine thinking it's normal not being able to change your battery.
>>1087589681. Majority of smartphones have extremely fast charging through USB-C, you fucking retard. There's nothing about Lighting that had better fast charging2. Fast charging is actually very bad - it causes high battery degradation and you shouldn't use it if you can.
>>108758418This, anyone who thinks there isn't a loophole is retarded.S27 and the next iPhone are already finishing their designs, and they're not using removable batteries.
>>108754084based EU strikes again
>>108759075Nope >>108758418He's reading one of the two laws, not the 2nd that specifically overrides the first and provides loopholes for existing flagships and future flagships without removable batteries.
>>108754453Are you ready to die for Israel, goy?
>>108758418Lex specialis cannot apply because Art 11.1 specifically states to which other provisions it acts without prejudice.
>>108759980Wronghttps://repair.eu/news/making-batteries-removable-and-replaceable-a-closer-look-at-the-new-eu-guidelines/> After several changes of direction by the Commission throughout the legislative process on the matter, the guidelines state that for portable batteries covered by the Ecodesign regulation for smartphones and tablets, the latter will prevail over the Batteries Regulation, allowing an important exemption from removability and replaceability requirements for devices meeting certain battery longevity and waterproofing requirements. The EU commission EXPLICITLY addressed the issue you're raising and say it DOES supersede the earlier 2023 rules.
>>108754084this is pretty huge news honestly. ast2 is a major thorn in the side of non-insurance or diy repair
