Use case for logging out of a single-user system?
>>108754974lemme ebussi my balls in your mouth and bhole.
>>108754974Every time I see someone clown on ebussy, he’s always in the right. Is that how he generates so much seethe?
The use case is switching back and forth between x11 and wayland because neither of them are fully functional
>>108754974Do people actually like using gnome?
>>108755140Tried it once. Fucking useless turd. It was great back with Dropline on Slackware but that replaced too many default files with its own crap. Fast forward to 2020s and it's some weird retard on a stick tripe.
>>108754974>single-user systemso, not linux?
>>108755096>switching back and forth between x11 and waylandGnome dropped support for X11, therefore on single user systems with only one desktop session (GNOME Wayland,) the log out button "issue" occurs.>>108755140Yes. The secret is that GNOME is really a touchpad and keyboard focused DE. For example, when you use the keyboard to maximize windows, move them to different workspaces, and switch between them, the lack of dedicated minimize and maximize buttons and taskbar or dock is irrelevant. So then it becomes a polished DE that stays out the way, and not a restrictive straitjacket.
>>108755140What's the alternative?
>>108754974what a fucking retard holy shitthis retarded DE can't die soon enough
>>108755342It's the DE of choice for every LTS. Even if they stopped now, it'd be around for a decade.
>>108755332Come home
>>108755355This.XFCE just werks.
>>108755355>>108755369Maybe worth looking at once they get wayland support working. I want fractional scaling.
>>108755389Wayland support is under developmenthttps://gitlab.xfce.org/kelnos/xfwl4
>>108755350yeah it's very sad and the alternatives are barely better...this is the only reason I'm still on windows 10 LTSC
>>108755299The logout button is still here for me
>>108754974I live in a low-income housing environment.
>>108755389>I want fractional scaling.x has fractional scalingdo you have mismatched monitors or something?
>>108755498x does have, gtk doesn't (and never will)wayland will not "fix" that problem either, so if you (or the guy you replied to) wants fractional scaling, his only option is to use an environment that uses Qt, not GTK
>>108755332https://i3wm.org/
>>108754974Use case for use case project manager?
I've had to log out of my single user session several times because it's easier than finding and killing several processes that are raping my CPU.
btw the reason he doesn't want logout is because he's a member of the CIA. it really do be do.
>>108754974Adding new group to the user? Testing a change on the login manager? Switching DE/WM? Just from the top of my head, not that even affects me since i left gnome long time ago.
>>108754974>os shits itself>log out, log in>it worksis this truly such a foreign concept? especially in linux where the is shits itself every other day?
>>108755332COSMIC
>>108756989>incomplete rust meme.
>>108755001That, and he's a ginger.
I use both gnome and macOS and love themBut then again I'm an actual adult with a job and not a tinker tranny retarded ass manchild gaymer
>>108757081I mean, it makes sense. macOS isn't for trannies, it's for homosexuals
>>108755332chirp chirp motherfucker
>>108756844use case for using linux the way it was supposed to be used?
>>108754974logging out of a single user/single session system is a way to close everything and lock the system, as opposed to locking which just locks the system.>but why would you want to d--don't care, not your problem
>>108755332kde until cosmic matures in about 2-3 years.
>>108755140I tried others, and I just go back to Gnome. It works fine for me for the most part. The thing I hate about other DEs is that so many of them "need" a start menu that mimics the windows start menu. That's waste of the start key. You press the start key and you get a dinky little menu. I press the start key on Gnome, and I get a view of all windows on my current workspace, a list of my workspaces, and I can just start typing to search for an app.Gnome feels to me, I don't know how to describe it, more digitally ergonomic?
>>108757348kde would let you easily do that change if you were inclined to do so, you can remove the bar and rebind start/commandwindows-like is the default everywhere because that's what 90% of people know
Cosmic is ambitious; System76 decided to make their own DE after interacting with GNOME devs, and seeing their arrogant hard-headness, and zealously toward anti-customization and minimalism.Besides customization, it will come with native auto-tiling toggle, native window stacking, and a native shader wallpaper engine. Though it will take a while before it stabilizes, and for its native apps to mature and get features.---On the KDE side, they are switching to a CSS-based theme engine called Union, which should allow consistency and even more customization. After the CSS version of Breeze will come in 6.7 (with plans for CSS versions of the revived Oxygen and Air as a test for the customizability of the Union engine). The Breeze style will be succeeded with Ocean as a new style, which has the art assets (including icons) ready, and will review and overhaul all aspects of the KDE design.KDE is also working on Kapsule, which will make Distrobox obsolete; it is able to both create distro containers and virtual machines, and will have native integration with the KDE Konsole terminal. So you will be able to simulate various other distros and export apps from there.
>>108755332do you realize linux is an international technology and the nature of open source allows anyone from anywhere to contribute? kde was literally made by germans
>>108757639Why go to India?
>>108756855Noted. We will add plans for a session reload button we will implement in 10-20 years.
>>108757633>On the KDE side, they are switching to a CSS-based theme engine called Union, which should allow consistency and even more customization. After the CSS version of Breeze will come in 6.7so gtk reimplemented with qt? that's so fucking retarded. why can't they port qtcurve to newer qt versions instead?
>>108757604If Gnome imploded maybe, but I'm content with it now. I did try KDE for a little bit, but it's just janky and kinda ugly. I remember moving my mouse across the screen and seeing my cursor change sizes 4 times. These little things attract my eyes like a magnet and piss me off.
Restard take too long
>>108754985AY! HARAM!
>>108757664The main goal was to create a single unified input for themeing. There are currently:- Qt Widgets (C++ based, Dolphin and older apps)- Qt Quick (QML based, newer apps and the basis behind Kirigami UI and Plasma mobile)- Plasma Shell (SVG based)For someone to be able to create a consistent theme, they will have to be proficient in C++ coding, QML coding, and drawing SVG image assets. This is a massive undertaking, which is why the SVG based Kvantum engine became popular.Qtcurve will need a rewrite C++ code for Qt6, and then a way to make it work with QML. The current industry trend is going toward CSS, and being portable to GTK is an advantage and solves an other problem.>>108757749KDE has an overview similar to GNOME where you can search through an applist or your opened windows. The default in KDE is start button + W, but you can reconfigure it to just Start Button or any other button really.Also the mouse increasing in size after shaking it is a feature that can turned off in the settings. Not only is it a fun easteregg, but it allows you to more easily find your mouse in a widescreen or a multi-monitor setup.
>>108758138well, now qt will have>qt widgets>qt quick>plasma shell>qt csspic relalso, where does kvantum fit into all this?
>>108758311With Union you will need to draw less SVG assets (if at all), and when updating/modifying a theme, you only need to change CSS variables, instead of trying to manually sync together C++/QML/SVG.Kuvantum is an unofficial community theme engine, similar to Qtcurve.
>>108758311I hate this comic so fucking much. Yeah maybe some things are redundant, but often enough people just whip it out anytime someone wants to make a better version of something that already exists.>Why not just use [SHITTY SOFTWARE/PROTOCOL/LIBRARY/ETC] instead of making your own? >Ever see xkcd927.png?>That means you're never allowed to make anything better>we live in a society
>>108755140Less and less. I was surprised to learn that it's user base is actually quite significantly lower than KDE. Even Hyprland, a relative newcomer, beats it pretty squarely, though these are Arch package stats so there's probably a lean towards Hyprland because of that.
>>108755140>>108759866Chart history here too. All these figures are from pkgstats.https://pkgstats.archlinux.de/compare/packages/plasma-workspace,hyprland,gnome-session,sway,i3-wm,xfce4-session
>>108759866use case for users?
>>108754974use case for keeping you alive?
>>108755140trannies do
>>108759866>>108759872Aren't most package managers specific to kde/gnome focused distro groups?So... then... ofc the package manager yum or w/e would show KDE as most popular and apt or w/e would show gnome...
>>108760210Those are stats for Arch though, which officially supports Gnome, KDE and a few others, but has no default. Those are the packages people chose when they had the choice of which DE/WM to go with rather than receiving a default based on their distribution.
>>108760262Once you include the Ubuntu installs, GNOME will look very tall.
>>108760311That's true. I'm not really sure whether to interpret that as a point in favor of GNOME though.It's like saying "the majority goes with GNOME only when they don't have a choice", but then again they did choose Ubuntu, so perhaps that can be considered them indirectly choosing GNOME.It would be easier as well if we knew how many people used which distro, but I couldn't find good numbers for that quickly. Ubuntu is probably the biggest, but by how much? I've seen estimate for Arch ranging from 0.1% to nearly 20%, neither of those extremes seeming particularly likely.I would be interested to see the figures for Debian too, which last I checked makes it pretty simple to start out with whatever DE you want (of the big ones). Maybe if any Debian users know what the equivalent of pkgstats is for Debian, they will post the numbers.
>>108755140retarded faggots do
