>no EUV>huawei still on 7nm while everyone already going for 2nm>CXMT and YMTC are lagging behind in progress>all the chinese AI are falling behind and the gap is widening>Iphone is the best selling phone in china>Tesla is the best selling EV in china>Phone export dropping
>>108756159sinochino bros, tell me there's still hope...
They’ll steal it eventually. Didn’t some Korean dude go to jail for leaking their best memory tech to China?
>>108756159Chinese Trotskyists are vindicated on the cancers of Stalinism, Maoism, Bukharinism, Dengism.China fucked up when they didn’t stop Trump and elected someone else in 2016 GOP Primaries.Lmfao.However BYD is number one in China and the world tho
>>108756159EU just made chinese inverters a strategic risk to be barred in any project supported by goverments in the EU (basicallty all grids and renewables)https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2026/05/04/eu-moves-to-ban-high-risk-inverters-from-china-over-cybersecurity-threats"An EU official stated that 'serious' economic and cybersecurity threats had been identified, adding that the Commission’s evaluation was based on both classified and publicly available information submitted by several member states.The European Commission will gradually eliminate the use of Chinese-made inverters in EU-funded energy projects, a major step aimed at protecting critical energy infrastructure from possible cyber threats that could trigger power outages."
>>108756159>Tesla is the best selling EV in chinaThis I doubt.
>>108756185stealing tech just slows you down. China now produces a crazy amount of PhDs with an alarming percentage of them taking US PhD positions and coming back later on to make companies in China or teach. I'm betting in the 25 years they'll overcome the US in research. The only problem is they lack creativity.>t. Frog PhD
>>108756159>huawei still on 7nm while everyone already going for 2nmyou know the Xnm process is all marketing shit and isn't measured by the same metrics across companies right? like intel's 7nm isn't amd's 7nm etc.
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>>108756159>>Iphone is the best selling phone in china>>Tesla is the best selling EV in chinano fan of the ccp but that sounds like nonsense apple and tesla are the definition of overpriced crap, chinks are mostly poorfags and the ones that are not poorfags are connected and can't be seen with American faux status frands. Wealthy chinks might drive an expensive german car but they woould nit be seen dead in a tesla and only the most tarded chink instagram style hookers would get an iphone
>>108756159ASML and others ain't selling sh1t to china due US
>>108756159>>Tesla is the best selling EV in chinaTop Selling Car Brands in China (Feb 2026)BYD (164,989 sales)Chery (103,799 sales)Geely (81,461 sales)Galaxy (73,126 sales)Changan (69,391 sales)MG (54,477 sales)Haval (43,660 sales)Wuling (33,511 sales)Leapmotor (28,067 sales)Jetour (27,607 sales)"As of early 2026, Volkswagen has reclaimed the top spot in Chinese car sales, with BYD falling to fourth place in the Jan-Feb period, following a shift in the market and reduced EV incentives. While domestic brands dominate, Geely and Toyota remain key players, and the Xiaomi SU7 has emerged as a top-selling model"https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/volkswagen-reclaims-top-spot-china-car-sales-byd-falls-fourth-ev-subsidies-fade-2026-03-13/Market Share: By March 2026, Tesla ranked 4th in China's NEV market among all automaker brands.Tesla's retail sales in China in the January-March period were 112,798 units. This was a 16.2% year-on-year decrease, ranking fourth with a 5.9% share.https://cnevpost.com/2026/05/01/china-ev-deliveries-apr-2026/As I thought as a carmaker overall Tesla is not even in the rankings, and suprisingly to be Volkwagon leads, in EVs tesla is a distant 4th with only 5.9% market share and honestly I'm suprised it is even that much given the stigma.Apple has about 17-20$ share and 70% is chinese makers.You have fair points OP, China is in the shit in a lot of ways but it's also true that stuff like Tesla is in shit worldwide. It will probably wind up bankrupt.
I thinnk what's tough for jingoists like OP to understand is that the EU now dwarfs the US and has free trade with most of south America, India and trade agreements with China. The whole tariff thing has basically destoyed America as an exporter
Taiwan belongs to ChinaChina: Taiwan is ChineseAmerica: Taiwan is ChineseEurope: Taiwan is ChineseTaiwan: we are Chinese so...?
>>108756790China;s wolf deplomacy on fircing a position on Taiwan or cutting diplomatic tiers actually completely undermined any credibility that had ironically enough. Many many nations have consitutional claims to other territories for 100 years that are meaningless, particularly former colonies e,g falklands, gibralta, northern ireland etc etc. Chinas claim is worth the paper i is written on and they completely fucked up hong kong as well, they should stop wasing their time on the issue, they are a food insecure energy importer with a declining economy and were never going o make it as a big league global power, their starting place on he game board just sucks and always will compared to the US or EU.
>>108756185EUV is a massive machine; a deassemebled one will require multiple cargo planes to transport.Requires tens of thousands of parts, and many of them are rare components from EU and US companies, which they won't give to China due to sanctions.China's only hope to catch up is for Taiwan to capitulate due to economic and political pressure, or if China's desperate efforts to discover alternative methods to make 2nm chips (such as Laser-induced Discharge Plasma) actually works and results in a revolutionary breakthrough. China will still be able to flood the market with legacy nodes.
china already has EUV, popped up in the news a while agomass production will start in ~2028soon China will also be more advanced in this than the rest of the world, like they did with all other areasat this point it will just be an humiliation ritual for the americans and europeans that the communists surpprased them in every area
>china can't do X>they do X and better>china can't do Y >they do Y and better>china can't do Z>they do Z and betterHaven't you western pigs learned your lesson yet?
>2010>china will never build cars as good as ours>2026>americans shitting and pissing themselves trying to keep Chinese cars out of their market so their auto companies don't all go bankrupt
>>108756884China definitely can't cause the second coming by making Israel start a war against the whole world.
>>108756884Shut up chink.
>>108757097china is coming for you western pigwe are gonna rape you and you will squeal hard like you've never squealed before
>>108756159>>Iphone is the best selling phone in chinaIt's 2nd.>>Tesla is the best selling EV in chinaNot even close>>huawei still on 7nm while everyone already going for 2nmNo, not "everyone", just Taiwan.>all the chinese AI are falling behind and the gap is wideningNot true>>Phone export droppingNot true
>>108756185To Japan
>>108757243Chinese brand smartphones are forgetting what made them good to begin withTry unlocking the bootloader on a modern Xiaomi/POCO/etc. it's a horrible experience.The only reason anyone would want an Android device is to try escape the walled garden, but Google and manufacturers are making it more and more difficult to do so. People want a device they can buy and stick Lineage or something on, and each iteration these cheap shit devices get more expensive and more locked down. If they're gonna copy Apple with locking it down and with pricing, you may as well just buy an Apple at that point.
You do know that TSMC is chink?They're the same bug people.
