>>108761796So your cat couldn't walk in front and break the signal.
>>108761796IR was SHIT and you're a zoomed if you think otherwise
needs line of sightdevices using IR were hot garbage beyond toy implementations like game boy to game boy communication
>>108761825You know... that's not bad for security
Glowies can't spy your IR without a line of sight.>>108761809>>108761819>>108761825Q.E.D.
>>108761796>Why did we switch from infrared to Bluetooth?You have obviously never used Infrared
>>108762056technologies develop over time
>>108761825nta but how about thishttps://youtu.be/yHj6ttmxfuE
>>108762065Spoiler alert: It was shit. Absolute shit.
>>108761796dogshit that hardly ever workedbluetooth is more reliable but even that can crap out when it will refuse to pair sometimesgood ol' cable will always be the best transfer method
>>108761796Do you even remember how slow IR was?
>you can send your contact information to another person's phone over IR!!>literally faster to just say it and have the other person key it into their device
>>108762185>>108762134>>108762190>>108761825>>108761819I had half a Palm IIIc back then and I thought sharing programs with my coworkers using the IR blaster was the coolest shit
Because blue tech is cooler than red techNow were waiting for someone to invent a cyber green communication technology to reach peak
How hard is it to make a tiny "walkie talkie" like thing that's just an AUX jack, a tiny PCB, maybe a coin battery and an antenna? It would be low power enough to only work indoors, at walkie talkie or RC car frequencies so no FCC bullshit. It would only pair with the other one (hard coded) so a lot simpler than bluetooth since it would have no pairing or packet protocol: it just takes audio in from either jack or antenna and sends it out thru the other.t. curious retard
>>108761796bluetooth doesn't need line of sight so it's superior at everything except maybe power consumption
>>108761796I like not having to aim my phone at my printer while I’m printingOK, this is IrDA vs. WiFi, but whatever
>>108762387bluetooth is jewish military technology. there's superior techniques but they dont have the funding power of communist jews
>>108761825ir keyboards worked pretty well i had one for a palm z. but otherwise yeah
>>108762336Neon pink tech is extraterrestrial
>>108762336>cyber green communication technologythis was android, but they went down the Dark Path
>>108761796bluetooth and wifi are radiated in ALL directions and they can pass through walls. it is trivial to spy on them.
>>108761796>>108761825It's called IrDa and you can still access it on windows 10.Light is GB speeds. So IrDa is superior in every possible way We literally use light I fiberoptics which is why it's still the fastest Internet speeds you can get. It's only slowed by the computer power of the servers and machines accessing the Internet.Line of sight is not an issue with ports you press together.Its faster and more secure than NFC and can be used for all the same applications.I'd much rather press my cc to a port and have light insta-transfer data than wave some gay ass NFC card around
>>108762114>>108763458>Line of sight is not an issue with ports you press together.>ports you press together.Wifi could do 1Gbps+ reliably behind multiple walls for years now. And if you're at the range of "ports you press together" USB4/TB4 have already been 40Gbps+ for years as well. IR has no place outside of extremely niche EE/radio type purposes. Needing optical tranceivers is a huge disadvantage over hidden internal antennas that all modern devices have either ways. Personally I'm more suprised the Wifi consortium or whatever haven't developed an extremely low power version to kill off BT since both techs operate at 2.4Ghz.
What was cool about the original irda spec was that it was dead simple, just a wireless link layer for ordinary UART. Anything you could do with your RS232 port, you could make it wireless with an IR transceiver. I used to administer old network equipment this way and access the serial console with my Palm.
>>108761796I never got infrared to work reliably. No one did.IR Blasters were neat in theory but holy shit did they suck balls.
chinkphones for whatever reason generally still have IR blasters, I don't own a chinkphone to tell you if they are actually still interoperable with 25 year old PDAs
>>108761819>IR was SHITIt still is, and always will be.
>>108761796The product I work on uses IrDA. The guy who made the TX and RX circuits was a retard though so we can only drive the thing at 56K max.
>>108761796It was slow af I rember sending 128kbps mp3 taking longer than the actual playtime of this file. Also it worked properly only on very short distances like 10-20 cm and it was still prone to random interruptions and fails.
>>108761796It was a piece of shitNowadays it'd be better I guess, I saw that guy on YouTube making a wireless home threater with Toslink
>>108761796it was incredibly slow. you have no idea how slow.
>>108762323>>108763630>>108763686Zoomers dont even know the diff betweem IrDA and IR blasters.IrDA is bidirectional, was mainly found in '97-'07 products and supported both file transfers and remote control appliances. IR blaster is an enshitified, TX-only version, mainly found in '12-'16 prducts which cannot transfer files
>>108761796same reason we picked getting our music from the internet instead of from minidiscs, cuise consumers are stupid, we let great products like pdas and minidiscs die and support products like the internet and smartphones even when they make us pay more and have no real advantages but plenty of disadvantages tech companies know how stupid we are, that's why windows 11 will still sell well and someday we'll have to pay for it monthly like we do for ms word now
can't believe retarded bait like this passes for serious discussion these days
>>108761796It's never coming back zoomie :^) and yes it was shit.
Why are zoomers clinging onto all the shittiest of old tech they weren't even alive for and hailing them as superior to anything newer? Not just CRTs and incandescent and sodium light bulbs, now it's infrared? What next? Are you retarded children going to hail the superiority of dial-up internet? Floppy disks? Cassette tape storage? Hit clips?
>>108768092>Floppy disksThere’s a lot I don’t miss about floppy disks, but I kind of miss write-protect tabs on removable media.
testing
>>108761796IR sucks so much worse than bluetooth.
>>108761796IR is light, and light is fast.Why was it slow?
>>108762041>Glowies can't spy your IR without a line of sight.[Citation Needed]
>>108771409Computers use electricity, and an electric field is also a good percentage of the speed of light. Why don't all computers have terahertz clock speeds?
>>108771454>electric field is also a good percentage of the speed of light.There is your answer.
>>108762134I still remember when I had to send glucose results as a diabetic using an IR connection to my doctor, and the whole transfer of 500 results would take anywhere from 1 to 3 hours. This if whatever signal clock wasn’t disturbed by the random light that would crash the whole transfer.Now even with the crappiest BT adapter it takes around 30 seconds.
>>108763570>Ports you press together is the same as inserting connectors You're missing the point. Walking around with an fragile TB4 protrusion and trying to decide who has the female and who has the male connector is just retarded.This is why Bluetooth file transfer is even a thing. Ports you press together offers better security, fast transfer speeds and convenience.Bt is slow asf
>>108767008>It's never coming backit never left in the first place
>>108771822what is this and where in eastern europe
>>108768092It's enshittification, all day, every day, their whole life. All they ever knew was "you must upgrade!!1 muh security, muh new features!" and it 100% of the time fucked them over and got worst. It's not surprising they learned that old = better, in fact, I'm actually surprised they aren't going full Amish.
>>108761796because bluetooth goes right through your body, more cancer, more profit.
>>108771822>Let me just post this esoteric edge case that applies to me.We're not talking about that eurofag.
>>108772392Nothing more true. I replaced a Galaxy S5 with a Note9 and I lost the neat features like IR, gesture control, and the removable battery, but at least I gained a nicer display. After a few years, I replaced the N9 with an S24U, and I lost the heart sensor, headphone jack, and thr iris scanner, but this time I gained nothing. The display is actually worse. The enshitification must go on
