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Do they still have something to offer?

As far as I know, many people have switched to VS Code, Zed, or Cursor over the last few years.

Some have even ditched IDEs and text editors entirely in favor of working solely in the terminal with LLMs.
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>>108765026
Jeetbrains
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>>108765026
They have nothing to offer. The world thanks them for Kotlin, but Jeetbrains should be put out of its misery.
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>>108765067
So we really don't need IDEs anymore?
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enterprise bullshit/contracts most likely.
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>>108765026
They’re the best IDEs by far. JetBrains is not going anywhere. The only bad thing about them is their AI integration but lately you use codex or Claude code standalone anyway
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>>108765026
I miss IntelliJ changelists. Was neat for working on multiple separate features at a time which I had to do all the time in the messy startup I used to work at. VSCode doesn't have anything similar.
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Cursor is dead by the way.
All hype is gone.
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Android Studio
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>>108765026
I like Rider, even if it's a bit bloated.
Still better than VS, save for a single feature (hot reload)
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>>108765026
It's still the best experience for actually writing code and navigating through it.
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>>108765154
Rider is fucking dogshit holy shit
I tried using it. Can't. Vs is just so much better
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>>108765026
They never had anything to offer except pain.
Coworker with boss complex sent me emails to tell me off because I was using VIM which he didn't know what it was and he (ESL) was like "why you REFUSE to using your jetbrain?" and I got him fired. True story btw.
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>>108765026
No.
Picrel was always better.
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>>108765026
I have a few months left I am considering total jetbrains cancellation
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>>108765172
Personally, VS is really fucking sluggish, significantly more so that even Rider which already isn't exactly snappy
Not to mention that I like the Rider UI much better
The only thing I'm assmad about is that hot reload doesn't currently work in Rider, which makes front-end stuff more painful than it needs to be
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They're ass-deep in Android development, so Google will keep it afloat until they don't need them anymore. Also JetBrains was one of the earliest companies to run out of free AI bux so they introduced credits, which is now the default.
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>>108765026
because of android that's it
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>>108765026
Eclipse was always enough, no proprietary garbage needed
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>>108765355
I can confirm this is the only employed person in this thread.
Fucking vscode trash that keeps doing cunty things every time I need to work, all basedguzzling colleagues use it and spend their days coping about how their fagged out install can't work with x because they installed y.
The other half of the company is on VS2022/26 and spends at most 2 hours a day working.
VS2026 Pro/Enterprise just werks.

I had a dev come over from a 1yr project where he used Rider and he just wasted 3 weeks setting up shit and relearning shortcuts/controls, it was aids having to babysit him with every task. Just make everyone in a team use the same tools or tell them any troonkering will be done on their own time.
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>>108765355
2026 is unironically based. They made it pretty fast again.
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unbelievable
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>>108765026
Dafuq? They literally make the best IDEs out there. Only reason not to use them is if you're autistic enough to use a pure text editor with a trillion keybindings.
If you use Microslop trash like Visual Studio you might as well kys
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>>108765026
Teamcity is good. Youtrack is okay. The rest can burn.
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>>108765026
ugh, the same reason why visual studio and xcode exist? its a cross platform ide

does vscode have the syntax highlighting, jump to definition, error checks, and ability to load cmake projects that proper ides can? haven't used it in a long time and I remember being frustrated by it being just glorified notepad
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>>108765026
Rider is alright, but even then it's only really worth using if you are one of the few who needs a cross platform Visual Studio. Which I assume is mostly just Unity developers.

Oh, and JetBrains Mono NL. It's probably my favorite mono font and I use it everywhere.
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>>108765916
Eclipse was annoyingly designed last time I used it a decade or so ago.
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Datagrip is a flaming piece of shit, but I still use it for certain tasks because its intellisense absolutely mogs SSMS. But I am always worried that it won't commit a change to a stored procedure or view or table because that functionality is extremely finicky. Usually i just script it out to a CREATE OR ALTER [whatever] instead of double clicking it in the object tree. Maybe this is different for other RDBMSes but DataGrip seems to hate MS SQL.
Rider has the same benefits (great intellisense, great UI) but suffers from similar problems. Seems like there is always an issue with opening VS projects or some shit.
IntelliJ is the best IDE for the JVM though, and it's not even close
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>>108765026
Anything can help me with interpreters in containers? I am very sick of bloatshovelware with additional subscriptions but I just don't know where to go. VS code is smelly and do not have Linux version iirc, your options are looking like even more bloatshovelware with ai
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>>108766434
Also Space was surpringly goated, I hate other boards after I used it at one (1) project



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