The current wave of narrative control is being used to centralize the internet within a small group of data centers that are essentially an extension of government via regulatory incentives.>Make plebs comfortable with hating data centers, so new regulations slide by without frictionAWS' cloud tech is essentially an NGO because AWS GovCloud (completely separate instance of AWS for government operations) is astronomical in size, and the methods being used to lock down the wider web have been in place there for years.>Yeah, so?Smaller data centers will become rare (and eventually extinct) once new regulations are put into place which make opening a new data center completely impossible unless you have ENORMOUS money and a large team of lawyers on standby. Smaller data centers will be bought up by Amazon, Microsoft (Azure).>ConsolidationYou're probably asking: Anon, why does this matter?Well, it matters because additional regulations will be created to force ISPs to adopt CGNAT (carrier grade NAT) across the board, which makes self hosting things from home no longer a feasible option. >So what does this mean?Nothing can be self hosted. Everything will be in the hands of a few 'chosen' data center providers, and this will lead to lower mean time to resolution for spying, data retrieval requests, and general fuckery from Uncle Sam.And since you won't be able to self host anything, the current iterations of censorship resistant web overlays like i2p and Hyphanet could be put at risk.There will soon be nowhere to hide if they get their way.
>>108773285Allowing Microsoft and Amazon to build more data centres is still bad though. Wouldn't the solution be in placing limis on data centre size and environmental pollution?
I don't care. I'm going to continue pushing for a different status quo where software is built with the intention of running ti freely on your own machines. Most software shouldn't require data center hardware instances in order to execute and nobody should be paying for that anyway.You should be able to run services off of low power devices out of your house. We need to make this the expectation not the exception.Fuck the data centers. Let them burn. Let AWS and all services that depend on it go away. Make way for their replacements.
>>108773363retard who didn't read the OP
>>108773375I read it. I don't know how you came to that conclusion or why. I guess just to bait for a bump with this useless reply.
It's not the 90s grandpa, nobody is colo dedicated physical servers any more in the age of containerized cloud everything. even backwards government uses approved private/gov cloud.If Euros are smart (debatable) they'll move away from American tech companies no matter what vague promises they offer about being independent from the USG in favor of domestic providers.Also presumably AI datacenters won't be the same as web serving data centers, way less need for external bandwidth, just fast internal bandwidth and loads more cooling and energy.
>>108773285What makes you think that enormous AI companies building enormous AI-workload focused data centres will improve the situation?
>>108773478I asked ChatGPT and it told me investing in AI is a good idea.
>>108773285The data centers represent the consolidation of power, money, and control that has been allowed to run rampant. If the populous of this country were really voting within their own self-interest, we might not give so much tax money to people who are just going to use it to make even more money themselves with almost no benefit to the surrounding communities, drawing from their power grid and using their water. If in your mind “capitalism” is a game where people should be allowed to do whatever they want, and that there will be winners and losers, and the losers will necessarily be harmed by the outcome of the game, then you’re a retard and unamerican and really should be deported.
>>108773375I opened the thread and saw a rambling schizo blogpost and just left without responding.
>>108773285Buy an ad Sam
>>108774064>If in your mind “capitalism” is a game where peopleCorporations aren't people.
The new data centers popping up everywhere are just more Big Tech slop factories. Their existence has literally no benefit to me.
>>108773285yes, and "indian hate" is inorganic jamboy
>>108773285>additional regulations will be created to force ISPs to adopt CGNAT (carrier grade NAT) across the boardcan they force my ISP which also uses CGNAT to finally provide ipv6 also?
>>108773285I'm going to disregard your schiozoid rant since my local example contradicts it.Our backlash actually began when the crypto-bros wanted to build a new one on the sound end of town for AI. Before then there was no backlash, and even the small normal one we have in the south end already was explained properly by the local non-profit fiber ISP/Utility company.I also can't see us using CGNAT for anything except cable service. It'd be a hassle on the Network Engineers.
>>108773363>>108775469you are unbelievably retarded. I would wager most of /g/ now is retarded faggots like yourself who have fuck all ideas what a data center even fucking does outside of HUURRRR IOT UUHHH HHHH AI. fucking kill yourself.
>>108777113The only reason anyone gives a fuck is because they have no fucking idea what data centers do. I also would imagine you don't either. What is happening is foreign countries are attacking new data centers because they know if they can stop it they can stop development of tech. Same shit with nuclear energy in the EU. The anti-nuclear fuckheads were all russian backed.>already was explained properly by the local non-profit fiber ISP/Utility company.lol fucking stupid.
>>108777128Bro I literally worked with the network engineers in our sad little south end one I mentioned lol. They're varied.Can you prove this shit is being done by foreign actors? If not shut your schiozoid trap. People just don't want electricity costs to spike, and local officials are being bribed to let that happen.
Is OP baiting or underage?
>>108777148>Can you prove this shit is being done by foreign actorsfollow the money.>People just don't want electricity costs to spike, and local officials are being bribed to let that happen.i don't see how thats any different from any other data center. Yes yes the GPU's will use massive amounts but that doesn't change the fact that our electricity costs are already fucking spiking. I don't live anywhere near a data center and they've been increasing shit for no reason. Just passing the blame. I know it'll increase but why don't they solve that issue instead of being fucking morons denying the entire thing. Only one reason.
