What's their endgame?
>>108775354the web, not internet.
>visit site>cloudflare bot check thing takes 20 seconds of my life>get what I needed, close tab>visit same site an hour later, same browser session>cloudflare bot check thing takes another 20 seconds of my lifeFrick offfffff.
>>108775450web destroyed the internet.siloed apps are destroying the web.calling siloed apps the internet might be technically correct but those have nothing in common with the original open internet.
>>108775354Digital ID incoming
They have started using these as intelligence testing now. They use to be to train AI. Now they're more pattern recognition based. Glowies doing glowie things.
>endgameCloudflare is the global passive adversary.Behead all glowniggers.
They were forced to do this because billions of of third worlders armed with ai tools are spamming and scamming every unprotected website until it's unusable. Fix the source of the problem and this bullshit will be unnecessary.
https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/identity-security/introducing-google-cloud-fraud-defense-the-next-evolution-of-recaptcha/it's about to get so much worse
>>108775600I have a small retail website that maybe averages 10K real visitors a month and I have over 10 million attempts a month trying to break into the CMS admin panel. All unique IPs.
>>108775354they will not rest until /r9k/ is destroyed
>>108775354>Blames cloudflare >Too retarded to understand why it's neededKill yourself OP
>>108775728>10K real visitors a monthwhat are you using to determine this? if it's cf, you're probably getting 20 humans per monthJust a general bit of info for everyone, cf attracts a shitton of bots, and also fools you. So many bots can bypass their firewall/js challenge. I switched to just using Anubis, and my 1k weekly visitors passing the challenges went down to 1 (me). It was insane
>>108775728>>108775998I'm not a web dev and I've been using adblock for decades. Do services like adsense still pay per impression? Even at a very low price, it sounds like the bots would bankrupt them.
>>108775354I was thinking of making a website someday soon. Will I need to rely on this or Anubis? What are the costs like?
>>108775524This.CloudFlare will be checking if your OS is providing a government issued "age verification". No age verification -- sorry, you cant visit the site.
>>108775998>what are you using to determine this?Sales numbers, raw logs, unique IP only counted if they pull the style sheet, not counting double visits, and google referrals, all roughly correlate to about 10kIt's my bread and butter, there's no point in deceiving myself with an inflated count.
>>108775998Ohh I don't use CF just plain old CFS with some strict rules about touching my login pages.
>>108776193CSF*
>>108776141>Will I need to rely on this or Anubis?Yes.>What are the costs like?They're free. Anubis is open source and runs on your server. Cloudflare has a free option which is more than good enough for small sites.
>>108775354As always, to funnel all of your money to Israel.
People in "I hate captchas" threads never ran an actual websites that had any value and any significant number of users. Yes, I hade cuckflare and other WAFs, yes they probably are behind DDoSing themselves. But if it weren't them, someone else would DDoS you and someone else would provide a solution to protect from those attacks. No, it's not posisible to avoid this problem conceptually and no it's not the problem with web only, it's a problem with any decentralized system and it hasn't been solved. No, Anubis will not protect you from the kinds of DDoSimg WAFs are shielding you from because you need a lot of infra and compute power. So sure, cuckflare is a huge honeypot NSA operation, but it basically was destined to be that.Anything at scale succumbs to enshittification and yes, normies ruined the internet.
>>108775354>What's their endgame? (asking bout kikeflare)1. to conquer the entire internet2. rename it as KIKENET3. MAKE KIKES GREAT AGAIN4. INTELaviv ME (MOSSAD ENGINE) to every device
>>108775354its capitalism 101create a problem (bots) sell a solution (bot-blocker)
>>108775354Sponsorised by SETI.
>>108776141Not if grug goes central serverless. Ethereum beats ddos in a different way and corral the botspam without being ssl terminated by a palantir partnerThis shifts the costs onto users, but you were planning on doing that anyways with ads and data brokering. Maybe if a user is unwilling to add their 2 cents, its better not to steal $5 of data off of them and watch them get surveillenced priced after
>>108779079Fuck off with your cryptoscam bullshit
Matthew Prince(ss) is a thin skinned faggot that sued his neighbor for having large dogs he's deathly afraid of.
>>108775354Today I learned that Cloudflare isn't even profitable
>>108779091Ill be in the woods north of 60 very shortly.Until then the fee world gets a speech platform thats a hair better than a mac mini running a decade old pdf exploit with cloudflare and google cookiesSpeech will equal reach and the incestuous pairing between ad tech, big social, and bot farms will be moloched trapped into funding the public benefit
