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Users of all levels are welcome to ask questions about GNU/Linux and share their experiences.

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>Which distro should I choose?
https://nosystemd.org
>What are some cool programs?
https://suckless.org
>What are some cool terminal commands?
https://cheat.sh
>Where can I learn the command line?
RTFM
>Where can I learn more about Free Software?
https://stallman.org
>How to break out of the botnet?
Use Free Software

GNU/Linux Games:
>>>/vg/lgg

Previous thread: >>108760613
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>>108775697
Unused VRAM is wasted VRAM.
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So I just upgraded to Fedora 44 (for some reason it needed to remove the winehq packages I had) and when I try to install winehq-stable I'm getting a bunch of "nothing provides lib etc etc needed by wine-stable" errors, any idea why this happens? Is this some early adopter bug/issue with 44 or what?

I could install Wine-core without issues and that allowed me to use my windows applications again at least.
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Continuing the discussion from last thread, are there any other worthwhile "task manager"-esque programs? We've already covered the KDE system monitor (crap), mission control (crap but a bit less so) and btop (good but I don't like how it sorts processes)
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>>108775697
>>Which distro should I choose?
>https://nosystemd.org
that's how you get this >>108774506
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>>108775759
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>>108775818
Compare both OP's, this is a troll one.
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>>108775808
>I don't like how it sorts processes
How would you like them sorted? It has all the same sort methods as other task managers from what I can see. It even has a tree display mode like some task managers do. And there's a search/filter if you need to quickly find a task.

>>108775833
You can literally try it yourself and see that I'm right. The bigger your display size, the more VRAM you'll need for your applications. The bigger you make your Mission Center window, the more VRAM it will consume.
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>>108775790
>So I just upgraded to Fedora 44 (for some reason it needed to remove the winehq packages I had) and when I try to install winehq-stable I'm getting a bunch of "nothing provides lib etc etc needed by wine-stable" errors, any idea why this happens? Is this some early adopter bug/issue with 44 or what?
>I could install Wine-core without issues and that allowed me to use my windows applications again at least.
You are supposed to use the flatpak.
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>>108775866
cope
your garbage bloated trash mission whatever belongs in the trash bin
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arch trannies can't stop taking L's. disgraceful!
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>>108775886
>your
Thanks, but I'm not the one who made the application, gtk or modern compositors. If (you)'ve made something better or something worthwhile, feel free to share. In the meantime I'll use software that works.
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>>108775697
What do I do now?
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>>108775909
uninstall gentoo
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>>108775866
>How would you like them sorted?
I like how mission control does it (and system monitor to some extent) where it lists apps as separate from the other processes and then also lets you expand them to see all the subprocesses. You can kinda do it in btop but it's not as clean and the tree view includes systemd and shit. It's just very messy.
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>>108775909
>install gentoolkit
>update kernel
>
emerge --sync
and
emerge -vauUND @world
every day to stay updated and
emerge -vac
to remove old packages
>be free
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If you're too stupid to run a computer and just need a plug n play. Go Pop OS.
If you're smart and able to learn. Go Void.
Any other distro is trannyware.
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>>108776625
>If you're smart and able to learn. Go Void.
do you get gender euphoria from having updates change your workflow and introduce bugs on your rolling release toy?
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>>108776625
7/10 bait
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>>108776625
>Void
>not woke
>recommended a flavor of the month distro
I just don't get this weird early adopting syndrome people have with distros, just because a distro has been around for a long time doesn't mean its old or outdated, it just means it has multiple documentation, implementation, and refinement for you to fix your problems.
>Pop! OS
I vaguely remember something wrong went with Pop OS, but I don't remember what it is.
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>>108775697
I vote that we merge the two OPs together because I'll be honest, this one does have some important links like the gaming thread and some of the other links but the recommended distro being nosystemd.org is lame as fuck, if you make another thread again just merge yours into the original OP, and no, don't replace the "babby's first linux" link with nosystemd.org
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>>108776625
You still doing that stupid trollpost?
Void has some use cases but not really. and Pop... god damn that's some grade A shit right there.
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>>108776953
If they merge definitely putting "how to pronounce GNU" and "Is systemd right for you" or something like that into the OP. I feel like even if sysd reverts course or doesn't have to do the age verification the political/user damage has already been done to the community so, if anything, educating people on systemd: both the programming and the questionable actions of the project, should be left up there for history's sake.
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>>108776625
Worst reccs
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Can someone with current GIMP (3.2.4 or dev version) please do the following?
>open multiple files in single-window mode
>scroll mouse wheel up/down on files tab pane
Does this switch between files? If not by default, is there a way to configure it?
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>>108777594
>Does this switch between files?
no
>is there a way to configure it?
i don't know
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>>108777635
Great answer, good job!
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>>108775909
I need that laptop
How's the battery life?
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I recently installed Arch. As a Linux newbie (used it since September 2025) is there anything you'd recommend me to do post-installation? I followed this guide
https://linuxiac.com/arch-linux-post-installation-steps/
The only mistake I think I made is using ext4 instead of btrfs. Is there a way to change my file system to btrfs or do I have to reinstall? I think I prefer the idea of btrfs snapshots with snapper vs using Timeshift.
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>>108777858
If you want to use btrfs instead for snapper then it would be easier to just re-install instead of using btrfs-convert on the ext4 root.
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>>108777876
dang I will have to reinstall then
its either a Windows update will nuke Grub or I will break Arch because of user error
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>>108777858
>is there anything you'd recommend me to do post-installation
Not sure why you trust a random webpage over ArchWiki
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/General_recommendations
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>>108777840
Idk, it depends on how you use it, but the battery is hot swappable, so you can easily slot in another one when you're traveling, for example. So far, the battery life seems to last me all day; I got a second battery, as well.
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So which distros are actually affected by "dirty frag"?
esp4, esp6 and rxprc do not show under lsmod of my arch system nor xubuntu vm.
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>>108776953
>>108776966
Nah, this OP is minimal and good.
It's pretty straightforward.
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>>108778672
minimal = less useful
because it is a less useful OP than the original
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>>108778477
If you've updated recently then the vulnerability has been patched like with copyfail.
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I recompiled @world with global -flto and everything feels the same
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>>108779384
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO you're not supposed to say THAT!!!
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How do I fix this tracker gave a warning error? I have the latest version, and I like Transmission so I don't want to change it.
https://files.catbox.moe/4g6wz4.jpeg
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>>108774506
My brother in Christ, if you want an easy time, install Ubuntu, or Mint if you want (I don't like Mint but some people like it). Also Debian is pretty straightforward.

The easiest is probably Ubuntu though, despite the fact that people hate to admit this.
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>>108780216
Why the fuck is he trying to bloat his non-Ubuntu system with Snaps?
So he wanted Ubuntu without Ubuntu, and then got surprised that his non-Ubuntu system was having convulsions when getting forced to choke itself with Ubuntu bloat.

I installed Artix on my main laptop and Devuan on an external drive. Both were installed and run without problems.
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>>108780216
>sudo dnf install snapd
KEK. This guy doesn't even know what a package manager is but still went straight to a more advanced distro that requires a bit of knowledge to install/use.
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>>108775909
USE="-systemd -wayland -policykit -elogind -pulseaudio -pipewire -screencast -networkmanager"

enjoy
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>it's another episode of qt6 dependencies blocking emerge
I'm gonna freak
Why the fuck can gentoo not package qt6 properly and not have randomly breaking updates that protage is incapable of resolving
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>Fedora 44 upgrade added back the google-chrome repo
No I don't want in my repo list!
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>>108779873
It's possible to change the user-agent, though this feature is only officially present in Tixati and this alone caused it to get banned from many private trackers. You can fork transmission to edit the UA yourself, though (or slopcode it, it should be a very easy change).
That or use a less shitty tracker.
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>Network Manager: You are now connected to wifi "Niggerfaggot"
>Me clicking on "Don't show this message again"
>Time passes
>Network Manager: You are now connected to wifi "Niggerfaggot"
>Me clicking on "Don't show this message again"
>Time passes
>Network Manager: You are now connected to wifi "Niggerfaggot"
Is Network Manager stupid?
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>>108780545
Usecase for Network Manager?
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>>108780566
I don't like it but it's in the default installation of most distros
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>>108780587
What makes you think "most distros" is a metric
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>>108780597
Can we just hate Network Manager already?
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>>108780612
This is getting a bit heated. I recommend slowing down.
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>>108780545
NetworkManager doesn't send GUI popups
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>>108780672
nm-applet does, me thinks
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>>108780355
Ok yeah I don't get it, can any more experienced gentoofags tell me what's going on here:
[blocks B      ] <dev-qt/qtshadertools-6.10.3:6 ("<dev-qt/qtshadertools-6.10.3:6" is soft blocking dev-qt/qtbase-6.10.3-r1)
[blocks B ] <dev-qt/qtsvg-6.10.3:6 ("<dev-qt/qtsvg-6.10.3:6" is soft blocking dev-qt/qtbase-6.10.3-r1)
[blocks B ] <dev-qt/qttools-6.10.3:6 ("<dev-qt/qttools-6.10.3:6" is soft blocking dev-qt/qtbase-6.10.3-r1)
[blocks B ] <dev-qt/qtdeclarative-6.10.3:6 ("<dev-qt/qtdeclarative-6.10.3:6" is soft blocking dev-qt/qtbase-6.10.3-r1)

Total: 107 packages (91 upgrades, 1 new, 1 in new slot, 14 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 4019534 KiB
Conflict: 11 blocks (4 unsatisfied)


I don't have anything weird on my system, at least that I remember, so I have no idea how this could've come about. Did they just break qt6 upgrades in the repos, should I wait for some extra packages to be updated? Should I mask or uninstall some packages? How does this even happen and how do I resolve this

I tried to see if an LLM would have any useful input, codex is telling me to run
emerge -avNDu @world --ignore-built-slot-operator-deps=y
emerge -av --changed-slot @world
emerge -av @preserved-rebuild
emerge -avNDu @world

Which seems very sketchy. Checking to see with -p does show the --ignore... option resolving the blocks, but using a debug option to ignore slot deps doesn't sound right.
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>>108781017
telegram is requiring dev-qt/qtbase:6/6.10.2=, which means it needs that exact ABI to build. portage is trying to upgrade the qt stack to 6.10.3

same with xorg-server, portage wants 21.1.22 but xf86-video-dummy needs 21.1.21

first off, try: emerge -avuDN --changed-use --with-bdeps=y --complete-graph=y --backtrack=200 @world
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>>108781284
Appreciate the answer anon.

>first off, try: emerge -avuDN --changed-use --with-bdeps=y --complete-graph=y --backtrack=200 @world
Nope, exact same output.
>telegram is requiring dev-qt/qtbase:6/6.10.2=, which means it needs that exact ABI to build. portage is trying to upgrade the qt stack to 6.10.3
Ok but WHY is portage be trying to upgrade it my dependencies aren't satisfied by the upgrade?
Telegram isn't even a guru package, it's in the mainline repo.

Here's the full output with
--verbose-conflicts
enabled, in case you or anyone else can explain why portage is unable to resolve this automatically: https://pastebin.com/XYns00Mf
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>>108780545
I have never seen NetworkManager display any kind of message, not when connecting or disconnecting, neither ethernet nor wifi
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>>108775697
On my new gentoo install, I hear the fan running 24/7. I checked lm_sensor and whatnot and it said it wasn't pwm. I'm running the standard gentoo-kernel. Is there something I'm missing?
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>>108781632
Does it run 24/7 in the BIOS too, or only in Linux?
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>>108781647
Yes, apparently. I just got home to test it.
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>>108781707
My fans ramp up as it should in my live windows USB drive, so there's a special driver I'm missing.
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>>108781707
Bad CPU fan mount, reseat it. Assuming your BIOS temperature is 100 °C too in the BIOS? Did you remove the CPU fan recently?
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>>108781761
See >>108781741
There's nothing wrong with my fan since it's working normally in windows.
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>>108781017
>>108781355
Classic slot conflict. Portage wants qtbase-6.10.3-r1 but you have other packages that still need 6.10.3 (and 6.10.2 it looks like) and it appears you have a similar problem with xorg-server.
Follow this article and do step 5&6 carefully.
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/User:Kentnl/Tips/Fixing_slot_conflicts
Try running this for example.
qdepends -Qqq -F '%{CAT}/%{PN}:%{SLOT} ^qtbase-6.10.3-r1'

>How does this even happen
Possibly updating regularly but not depcleaning afterwards to remove old versions of packages.
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>>108780545
Can't you mute it? In Xfce it will be in the settings manager.
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>>108781790
Here's to show my temps are fine. I repasted it with PTM7950.
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>>108778477
sources say Ubuntu has been the most DirtyFag affected distribution
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>>108781920
There seems to be a kernal module specifically for my laptop that I need to enable. This might be the fix I need.
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>the wine setup script actually works now
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>>108781853
Thanks a lot anon. This seems to be producing results, let's see if it ends up working out.
I'm quite baffled that what looks like a routine upgrade is causing this, I haven't seen this in the last two years of using gentoo so I kind of assumed portage was just good enough to be stable in normal usage.

>Possibly updating regularly but not depcleaning afterwards to remove old versions of packages.
I always depclean after every upgrade.
I do have some qt5 packages which have recently been added to package.mask due to qt5 being phased out (notably keepassxc). But they don't appear in any of the conflict messages here so if that's what's causing problems then this is the diagnostic worst output in the history of interactive programs. Assuming the error messages are sane, and performing the step by step upgrade with this qdepends magic invocation works, it really seems like portage just fucked up deciding on a build order to resolve all the dependencies
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>>108775909
install XFCE.
Install whatever you want - apps - browser - games
use it like any other computer.
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>>108775909
sell it to me so i can install linux mint on it and use it
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>>108781982
>XFCE.
this is 2016, retard, not 1996
shill your shitware somewhere else, grandpa
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if linux is so great then why can't 7z extract some rars while the windows version can
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>>108782082
>this is 2016
I wish.
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>>108782144
no one uses .rar on Linux
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>>108782177
gnu/linux*
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>>108782177
I do because half the archived files I download are fucking rar shits.
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>>108782144
Because you should be using unrar instead.
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>>108782274
i won't because i'm too lazy to look up how to install it
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>>108782287
>i'm too lazy
If it's not in your package manager then there's a tar file on their website with instructions.
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Is NTFS still a good format to use, if I'm using a portable HDD and sharing between Linux and Windows?
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>>108782385
its ok
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>>108782385
Yeah but make sure you are using the newer ntfs3 driver. It's the only third party NTFS implementation that doesn't shit itself.
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>>108782274
Unrar is the only reason I have the non-free repos enabled. Forgive me Stallman but the internet won't let this format die.
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>>108782385
If the HDD is just for data storage, I'd use ExFAT personally, since it's supported by all major OSes
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>>108782385
It's the least bad one.

>>108782442
It's been a shitshow since release and they're constantly landing fixes. ntfs-3g is still the only reliable RW driver.

>>108782465
Supported by fewer than NTFS and has zero metadata safety / fault tolerance.
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You guys think rar is bad, there's windows utilities that package zip files with backslashes instead of forward slashes for directory structures and programs will fuck up the extraction
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>>108782385
I wonder, does ReFS work on linux?
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>>108782521
I bet unar can handle it.

>>108782528
RetardFS doesn't work anywhere
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What's the least bullshit fastest to setup easiest to configure tiling wm at this point? for wayland (yea ik). Maybe I'm stupid but wow there are way too many moving parts just to plop windows on a screen, you have to get an app launcher, status bar, all this policykit bs, wallpaper setter, whatever the fuck wl-roots protocol, protocol this and that. Is there just an all in one program that handles all that shit like how kde, xfce, gnome ect handle it by just fucking working when you type install? I don't care how opinionated it is or how tinker adverse it is I just want to save time, all this stuff just feels like a hobby (nothing wrong with that but yea)
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>>108782520
>Supported by fewer than NTFS
ExFAT works with MacOS and Android but apparently both of those need third-party tools to use NTFS
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>>108782563
>whatever the fuck wl-roots protocol, protocol this and that. Is there just an all in one program that handles all that shit
Yeah, it's called x11. In all seriousness idk, I've never been into tiling wms but I hear hyprland is pretty easy to use
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>>108782563
Niri with Dank Material Shell on Fedora was the most complete feeling out of the box. It had a pretty extensive settings GUI that would tell you if something wasn't configured and why.
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>>108782680
Yeah and they all use ntfs-3g. It works really well.
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>>108775697
Loving my 'inux setup
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>>108781936
(((sources)))
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>>108775697
Are Mediatek SOCs compatible with linux distros? Until RISC-V becomes viable, I want to get an ARM laptop. There are only three relevant ARM SOCs I know about Apple which is a no go, Qualcomm which will never make it easy, and Mediatek who are talking a big game about compatibility but are incompetent.

Specifically the Kompanio Ultra 910 which is comparable to a Macbook Neo but with -5% single core +15% multi core. The desirable Chromebook model is being price gouged to all hell though.
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>>108776158
>Gentoo
>kernel
I've been pulling kernel sources from kernel.org, compiling them manually, placing bzImage at /efi/linux.efi and booting it as an EFI-stub like a retard ever since I was an Ubuntu noob. Now I'm using Gentoo and doing the exact same thing.
Are there any huge benefits in doing the kernel compilation "the Gentoo way"?

Also: any reason to go for 7.0 as my hardware is from 2022 and I don't use any fancy filesystems such as XFS or btrfs? Currently using 6.18.
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>>108783177
dude you don't want mtk, trust me, they are insecure and you can literally just ask any israeli about how stupid the mtks are, lmao

it's fucking comical how badly exploitable those modems are
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>>108783202
Literally how the fuck else would you do it?
You have makefiles and make file targets which are supposed to be based on the standard

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard
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>>108775808
btop
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How long do I realistically have left to keep running GNU/Linux on a Thinkpad T410 (daily driver, poorfag neet) with 4GB of memory?
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>>108783221
i have another 8gb to put in mine, just been too lazy to flash coreboot again (leah fucked up)
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>>108783221
If you think the performance will lack then are you at least using an SSD and using a DE/WM that's about performance?
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forgot to link it
>>108783226

https://codeberg.org/libreboot/lbmk/issues/401

> After flashing libreboot 26.01, memtest86+ shows thousands of memory errors when the RAM stick is installed in slot 2. Slot 1 passes memtest with zero errors. The errors appear almost immediately after starting the test.
During normal use (Devuan system update via apt), this caused repeated segmentation faults in dpkg and eventually a kernel panic. Kernel logs showed page faults and BUG: Bad rss-counter state errors.


exact same shit happened to me
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>>108783229
dude firefox nightly is fucking crushing it right now, consider using runit and mate, marco's compositor is highly underrated vs picom
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>>108783213
Every distro (or package management system rather) has their own specific way of doing kernels so the package management knows about it.
Obviously you can skip having a kernel(+bootloader) installed via package management and do it manually on your own. Picture vaguely relates.
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>>108783232
you'd be actually surprised. makefiles can "install" shit anywhere you want, if you have the right version of glibc and the right headers your shit will build on any unix like os if you arent a retard
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>>108783226
I did wish I picked up more RAM back when it was cheap. I think that's the max you can have in it.

>>108783229
No, I am using a mid 2000s 60gb hard drive from another laptop (the 320gb 7200rpm one has bad sectors so it's not worth risking using it). It doesn't take too long to boot up to be honest with Debian 13 and I leave it on for most of the day. Using Xfce but that's going to eventually go to Wayland (Wayland I fear is going to be glitchy on old hardware or not work at all).
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>>108783252
>60GB
How you haven't filled it up already is crazy. You should really think about just getting a replacement 256GB SATA SSD and move your install to it.
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>>108783177
Only Mediatek network gear, which is basically a different company.
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Does anyone have any advice on how to automatically backup files from iOS to a Linux server?
I know of Arcosync. I am using rsync for all the rest of my devices, but I hear there's no way of automating it. I've heard there's some kind iCloud synchronizing thing you can do too.
Not a particularly compatible combination of devices, but my in laws use them exclusively. They don't even have laptops for the most part, Apple or otherwise.
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How can I tell aptitude that removing package X is not a desirable solution to conflicts?
I can achieve the same thing by just saying "No" manually a couple times whenever it is offered in the "Remove" section, but I'd rather just avoid it
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>>108783221
>>108783252
I'd say a couple more years? You could find 4GB of DDR3 RAM from like AliExpress or something to max the amount it can hold and replace the HDD with an SSD. That would add some more years.
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>>108783436
HDDS are underrated and can do what the average fuckface needs daily. retards are like sheep though and fall for marketing memes, so they insist on having high speed expensive SSDs even though they wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the two in daily use.
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>>108783515
Based true and real
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>>108783395
Always used syncthing and have used mobius sync with my ipad for syncing obsidian folder.
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>debian/gnome
>use bluetooth amp
>works fine
>computer goes to sleep
>bluetooth doesn't reconnect
how can i make it reconnect automatically after sleep?
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>>108783739
>>108783739
>>108783739
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>>108783747
Quit trolling friendly threads
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>>108783669
Do you have to do any manual input for those like opening up an app and pushing a button or whatever? From what I hear, you can't have background processes running automatically and indefinitely on iOS, so apps have to get around it in weird ways like refreshing their processes on location changes.
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is battery life good for my old 2011 laptop running linux?
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>>108783202
gentoo has a vanilla-sources package if you prefer the plain kernel.org kernel
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>>108783822
I guess it just comes down to what exact laptop model you're using? It's pretty subjective.
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>>108783794
>you can't have background processes running automatically and indefinitely on iOS
Pretty sure you can't. I should check again. I just open it, let it sync for few seconds and use obsidian.
>weird ways like refreshing their processes on location changes.
Not sure, most were recommending creating custom shortcuts that opens mobius sync first then opening up obsidian/other apps right after.
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Please help a genuine retard out. I know repositories are repeated here, but I'm not sure how to write it in a way without fucking up my system
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>>108775697
which discord client isn't spyware?
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>>108784014
They're not repeated. That is how it should be.
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>>108784035
There's a couple good privacy-focused forks of the desktop application like Vesktop, Armcord or Legcord.
You could also run the Discord flatpak and use Flatseal to remove a lot of its permissions, or run it within your browser.
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>>108784045
Maybe I'm looking at the wrong thing. I say this because of picrel
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>>108784072
Here, have mine.

#deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 13.4.0 _Trixie_ - Official amd64 NETINST with firmware 20260314-11:53]/ trixie contrib main non-free-firmware

deb https://deb.debian.org/debian/ trixie main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
deb-src https://deb.debian.org/debian/ trixie main contrib non-free non-free-firmware

deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security trixie-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security trixie-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware

# trixie-updates, to get updates before a point release is made;
# see https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_updates_and_backports
deb https://deb.debian.org/debian/ trixie-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
deb-src https://deb.debian.org/debian/ trixie-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware

# trixie-backports, previously on backports.debian.org
deb https://deb.debian.org/debian/ trixie-backports main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
deb-src https://deb.debian.org/debian/ trixie-backports main contrib non-free non-free-firmware

# This system was installed using removable media other than
# CD/DVD/BD (e.g. USB stick, SD card, ISO image file).
# The matching "deb cdrom" entries were disabled at the end
# of the installation process.
# For information about how to configure apt package sources,
# see the sources.list(5) manual.
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>>108784072
>>108784102
Oh, I just realised what's probably happening. Your duplicate entries are probably in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
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>>108783906
Isn't "vanilla plain kernel" the normal kernel everyone uses by default? I thought adding patches was exotic.
>>108783327
60GB is plenty for anyone who doesn't warez.
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>>108784051
Thanks I'll look into those you mentioned
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>>108784109 (Me)
And by "probably", I mean "definitely". It says as much in your error output which we both didn't read lol. Trixie configures its sources in /etc/apt/sources.list by default.
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>>108777594
3.2.4-1 here
>Does this switch between files?
No
>is there a way to configure it
Yes, in Preferences>Input Controllers>Mouse Wheel but you'll need a modifier (you can't limit the scroll behavior specifically to the tabs)
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All these recent privilege escalation exploits do not work on my system.
Gentoo wins again.
Or maybe I'm too stupid to compile the necessary kernel modules for the exploit to work.
Is there a list of kernel modules somewhere that enable extra functionality that I should be aware of?
I haven't had any issues with my system so far, everything "just works" and has been working for 6 years now. But I figure it might be good to ask.
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>>108784287
Copyfail and DirtyFrag have both been patched in the latest mainline and LTS kernels, which if you're using Gentoo then you have the patches already.
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>>108784306
Doesn't Copyfail depend on the algif_aead kernel module or something? I never had that kernel module compiled. I started my kernel config with a make localmodconfig and then enabled stuff as necessary. So I never even had the vulnerable module installed in the first place, there was no patch necessary for my system.
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>>108784323
CopyFail used some of the kernel's cryptography modules to let anybody become root on any distro without a password.
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>>108782465
>FAT
I see you love data corruption.

>>108782563
>What's the least bullshit fastest to setup easiest to configure tiling wm at this point
Use a distro that has it pre-installed, like CachyOS or Fedora Sway.

>>108783221
Linux with a simple UI (WM or a minimalist DE) will be usable even on 1GB devices for years to come. Your main problem will be the software you use, not the OS itself.

>>108783327
Speaking from experience, 64GB is fine even if you're on KDE/GNOME and exclusively use Flatpaks and Appimages. You just can't hoard stuff so any movie watching and gaming needs to be done from an external drive.
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>>108783369

To answer my own question, Mediatek is supporting Linux through a third party, and while most of their work appears to be on the IoT silicon they are working on making Linux bootable on a kompanio ultra 910, this came out a month ago so yeah, do not hold your breath.

https://www.collabora.com/news-and-blog/news-and-events/from-panthor-to-rk3588-advancing-graphics-video-soc-support-linux-kernel-7.html

>AngeloGioacchino Del Regno expanded support for several MediaTek SoCs like the MT8196 Chromebook including power management enablements (SPMI, DVFSRC, and regulator), display and audio enablements (HDMI, DSI and audio controller), DMA fixes, and Device Tree cleanups.

>Nicolas Frattaroli contributed preliminary patches to enable support for the MT8196 SoC. He fixed clock issues and read enabled cores from eFuse to activate the GPU (this is good progress but the GPU will stay off in mainline for stability reasons for now). He also started refactoring and fixing the interconnect driver.


So yeah maybe in a year an ARM image of Ubuntu might work well on the laptops I was looking at. At this point I will just wait out the AI bubble; given that Laptops are currently having horrific pricing shocks.
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>>108784287
>Is there a list of kernel modules somewhere that enable extra functionality that I should be aware of?
https://github.com/a13xp0p0v/kernel-hardening-checker
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I am planning a dualboot setup with dedicated drives for both windows and linux. I heard some programs might refuse to run on windows if Secure Boot is not enabled. I looked into "securing" the linux side so I can keep Secure Boot enabled in my UEFI and I found picrel in the wiki. Are these hard requirements or recommendations for a fully secure setup? My goal is to comply with Secure Boot requirements but I don't know how much of these will affect my linux installation. In particular full drive encryption. Opinions?
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>>108784556
use fedora or ubuntu derivatives if you want secure boot. it just werks
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>>108784570
You can set up secure boot pretty easily on Arch if you use sbctl.
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>>108784556
You don't need a strong password.
You don't need minimal keys.
You don't need UKI.
You don't need FDE.
You don't need TPM.
You just need shim or MOK.
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>>108784578
>>108784580
I found these (for some reason in turkish) https://techolay.net/sosyal/konu/dual-boot-arch-linux-sistemlerde-secure-boot-nasil-acilir.108973/
It doesn't look that bad. My fear is bricking my hardware by messing with it too much. If all I have t o do is appending my keys to the magic keys box inside the UEFI then it should be doable
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>>108784578
you still need to sign the kernel then though? Or are there already hooks for it?
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>>108784623
sbctl comes with a hook that runs on kernel update that resigns the new one. Just enroll it first time and it'll always remember.
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>>108784616
If you have a TPM protector for BitLocker you can simply disable BitLocker protectors temporarily while you reconfigure your system. That saves you having to unlock BitLocker using your recovery key. The command you want is manage-bde.exe. Don't forget to turn them back on once done.
The other thing you can do if you are running a decent edition of Windows (e.g. Enterprise) is use local Group Policy to enable a simple password unlock of BitLocker. That way, TPM can't lock you out. But for a simple dual-boot, this is overkill.
Honestly I wouldn't rely on any guide except ArchWiki. Just take your time and try to understand what is going on. As the other anon said, sbctl is your friend.
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>>108784630
The the signing process be done after the installation? Windows is more of a side thing for the rare cases of critical programs refusing to run. I am not sure if TPM will be there but we are talking about a setup for a future custom build so it's all gonna be recent hardware. I plan on installing LTSC, if ever
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I used to be able to use Universal android debloater next generation but it has stopped working. I've tried redownloading and chmod +x uad-ng-linux but still no go. Any suggestions to get it working?
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>>108784642
Yes. BitLocker recovery key printed, BitLocker protectors off, Secure Boot off, install Arch, configure Arch (including signing), Secure Boot on, test Arch, BitLocker protectors on, test Windows.
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>>108784650
distrobox
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>>108784650
Well I got it sorted. There was a bug in the version I tried to upgrade from which prevents the update working.

https://github.com/Universal-Debloater-Alliance/universal-android-debloater-next-generation/releases/

So I downloaded the next version manually and it seems to work now.
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>>108784578
'pretty easy' is infinitely harder than 'just werks'
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Can Linux run my vidyagames and all my Windows programs well or am I going to have issues? I'm tempted to switch but I don't know how things like Adobe programs and hardware acceleration work in Linux or if those random obscure programs I have from decades ago will run fine
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>>108785017
>run my vidyagames
Almost all singleplayer titles run fine. Big multiplayer titles... Depends, but mostly they won't run.
>Adobe programs
Yeah, no. It's either older versions or alternatives.
>hardware acceleration
Nvidia GPUs can be problematic and won't have the same performance.
>random obscure programs I have from decades ago will run fine
Should probably run fine through WINE.
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>>108785042
Thanks, appreciate that a lot
Looks like I'm still going to stick with this shit OS that can't do the basics right.
As for WINE, wouldn't that be able to run the Adobe stuff as well or does it not work like that?
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i installed mint cinnamon yesterday and i already love it, fuck windows 11, after getting the drivers and wine working this is the shit
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>>108785052
I'm not sure, I think newer Adobe programs don't run at all. Maybe older versions run on WINE.
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>>108785063
IIRC I heard that recently the newest version of wine-staging can load/run Creative Cloud properly, and that Photoshop 2021 and 2025 work properly as well, but the AI stuff doesn't work.
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>>108785017
90% of games play well on Linux; you can check game compatibility for specific games on the ProtonDB website. Linux often runs games better than Windows. The only notable hurdle is that some (not all) competitive multiplayer games with kernel level anti-cheat purposely blocks Linux systems; some examples are Fortnite, Call of Duty, and League of Legends.

There are also databases and online discussions regarding app compatibility. The vast majority of Windows apps should work, unless they are a complex professional-level creative suites, though you can still run them without hardware acceleration (unless you have a second dedicated GPU, in which case you can) within a virtual machine environment.

Photoshop's main competitor Affinity works in Linux (only the login and subscription-based AI tools are missing), which covers the needs of most users. There is also a good free web clone of Photoshop called Photopea.

Otherwise you can use the web version of Photoshop (professional-level software often have a web version with the main features included nowadays to facilitate collaboration), or run Photoshop in a VM layer like Winboat (though no GPU acceleration unless you have a second dedicated GPU).

This can change in a few years, but for now if you need a professional programs not native to Linux for work, you should dual boot or have separate PCs.
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>>108780308
Wayland is good thoubeit
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>>108775697
When I installed Gentoo, the handbook suggested that I lock the root account for security reasons, and now in KDE, pkexec always tries to authenticate with root. My current user is the admin but is there anyway to change this?
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>>108784651
so there is no way of doing this after installing windows? I was thinking of buying a drive for windows later on
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>>108785196
Sounds like you missed the part of adding a regular user to the "wheel" group and using sudo/doas. If so and your root is locked you might need to chroot into your system from a live USB to fix it.
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>>108785017
>Adobe
Not going to work. You would need to use alternative software, like Photopea instead of Photoshop (a very viable alternative for most people), Figma instead of XD (Figma is an industry standard anyway and even owned by Adobe as of recently), Krita for drawing, Inkscape for vectors, etc. Or use Adobe's own web browser versions of their software suite.
>obscure programs
Some might work in WINE. Depends on what you're talking about. But a much smoother experience would be to find alternatives. Most high quality software is open source and most open source software is on Linux.
>PC/Windows gaming
95%-99% there. With the current versions of Proton it's mostly games with kernel level anti-cheat that won't work. We're talking about a few hundred games at most, but a lot of them are very popular (Fortnite, LoL, Apex, Valorant, Rainbow Six Siege, etc.). If you don't play "competitive" live service slop then odds are your entire game library will work.
See: https://areweanticheatyet.com/?search=&sortOrder=&sortBy=status
>console/emulation gaming
Was always better on Linux than Windows.

>>108785052
>As for WINE, wouldn't that be able to run the Adobe stuff as well or does it not work like that?
WINE is not a perfect compatibility layer, there are still things that are unimplemented. A couple of months ago some guy made the modern Adobe Photoshop installer work through WINE, but I don't know if the change got merged and even if it did it doesn't mean the app will run fine.
Only the older versions of Adobe suite run in WINE currently. As in, before they switched to the cloud versions and monthly/annual subscriptions. Like Adobe CS6 from 2012.
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>>108785017
>vidya
A lot of AAA games work on Linux. But some multiplayer games with anti-cheat functionality don't work on Linux.
>Adobe
Apparently older versions of Adobe programs work on Linux. But there are other similar programs you can use on Linux.
>random obscure programs I have from decades ago
I think a lot of older Windows applications do run on Linux with Wine (Wine allows Windows programs to run on Linux).

If you absolutely need some Windows programs then you could always run Linux on top of Windows using WSL. I've done that before. WSL works well.
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>>108775697
I've noticed a lot of old retards are leading new retards astray to newer, beginner unfriendly, or bleeding edge distros over something that is actually meant to be babby's first linux.
If you really hate Mint that much just recommend Ubuntu or PuppyLinux, I'd include POP! OS but the project has ran into a lot of issues for the modern day. It's no longer stable, its no longer reliable, and it no longer works right out of the box.
>"But its funny to fuck with them."
>"But my [insert political agenda here]."
Its annoying to have a bunch of new people shitting up the thread saying that they installed TempleOS and they don't understand why they can't connect to the internet or execute .exes on a 16-bit system. If their new and you are going to recommend some sort of autistic OS at least handhold them by giving them a retard's guide or youtube tutorial playlist for them to use.
As for politics, it shouldn't be the basis for recommends for new users, 90% of the political leanings of distros can be ignored if you don't interact with the community, devs, or the handful of forums officially. I don't see the problem with talking about politics and its effects on software and if you like or dislike these current events, I don't think we should be telling newbies to install Devuan or Void because of it.
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>>108785317
I installed and configured doas and my user is in the wheel group. That's why I'm confused.
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>>108785017
>vidyagames
As long as you don't play Riotslop or Fortnite you should be mostly fine.
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>>108785357
>POP! OS but the project has ran into a lot of issues for the modern day. It's no longer stable, its no longer reliable,
You lost all credibility with that as it shows me you have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>108785017
Most likely it will run all your stuff with different levels of quality, with most needing minor tweaks in game or using terminal to get them working correctly. If your something who absolutely can't play a game without it working perfectly, then you can be assured that you can do it if you are willing to invest the time to figure it out.
If your okay with the game working but some progress bars being fucked up or you having to execute it through a .sh instead of an .exe and some minor glitches and graphical fuck ups, then you don't have to worry about that either.
Linux emulation isn't like it was in the early 2000s or 2010s where there was little to no help and if it didn't work you were fucked. The eco system has matured enough now to the point where you can just google a guide on how to install or a wine error and have a handful of relatively easily understandable solutions and explanations of the problems other users have had. Probably your biggest hurdle will be learning terminal commands, learning the linux folder layout, and learning how linux executes files and interacts with emulation laters and hardware layers, but once you figure that out its pretty smooth sailing.
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>>108785387
Someone hasn't been paying attention to recent cosmic controversy but I welcome the disagreement on why I'm wrong since I'm not actively using POP!, I'm more actively concerned with people recommending people distros that make learning Linux 100 times harder when it doesn't have to be.
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>>108785413
>people recommending people distros that make learning Linux 100 times harder when it doesn't have to be.
this is actually based. this is what i want. keep your low IQ NPC sheep brain the fuck away from my distros.
the more popular linux gets the more attention from corporations it will get and the more enshitified it will get to cater to the dumbest of the dumb.
Linux is shit, Windows is a WAY better.
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>>108785423
They won't unless you are using Arch or Catchy and honestly Catchy is way more at risk of being enshittified by new users, Arch is more at risk of being enshittified by its dev's teams need to internet clout on politics.
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>>108777635
>>108784155
Thanks. Currently have my GIMP pinned to 2.10.38 because of some plugins and because of GTK 3 regressions like this messing with my workflow. I guess this is a ticket to watch for me.
https://gitlab.gnome.org/Teams/GIMP/Design/gimp-ux/-/work_items/104
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>>108785380
Try executing the program through commandline with sudo/doas then instead of launching it via GUI which you're probably doing. It's an ACL feature because you're trying to launch the program "normally" without elevated privileges but it requires root.
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>>108784287
current exploit uses these in kernel .config file:
CONFIG_INET_ESP
CONFIG_INET6_ESP
CONFIG_AF_RXRPC
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>>108785131
there is no standard way of doing things in gayland, i.e. xmodmap
everyone ended up implementing their own shit
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>>108785491
doas works normally in the terminal but it's pkexec/polkit that's not detecting the privileged user and instead resorting to its internal agent which defaults to root. Polkit uses sudo as a proxy for localauthority but I'm not using sudo.
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>>108785496
# CONFIG_INET_ESP is not set
# CONFIG_INET6_ESP is not set
# CONFIG_AF_RXRPC is not set

Great.
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>>108785269
The scenario I described assumed that Windows is installed first. Not sure what you mean.
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>>108785357
Babbies first Linux is just broke shit you have to remove later. If you can't handle Arch or Fedora from the outset, you're going to bail the first time you have problems with 'noob friendly' shit, and probably under much worse circumstances.
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>>108785052
Use a VM for adobe.
If you need it for job things, don't bother. you should have a separate mac/windows machine for that anyway.
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>>108775697
>tried to use thunderbirb today
>dogwater performance, unusable ui
>look for other alternatives
>they are all gn*me apps or plain text terminal ones
im tired bros
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>>108785547
that's why I disable polkit and all those freedesktop shit and would rather use minimal xfce
USE="-policykit"

it's pure cringe
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>>108785357
>I've noticed a lot of old retards are leading new retards astray to newer, beginner unfriendly, or bleeding edge distros over something that is actually meant to be babby's first linux
Pretty much. /fglt/ OP has been schizoposting for a while now, and it's sad to see. I understand hating systemd. But there is not a single nosystemd-endorsed distro that I would recommend to a non-technical user.
>>108785732
>If you can't handle ./configure && make && make install from the outset, you're going to bail the first time you have problems
No, they'll probably just ask a friend, IT shop (or these days LLM) for help. Just like newbies used to do with their DOS and Windows installs.
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>>108785865
Makes sense
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>>108785896
>No, they'll probably just ask a friend, IT shop (or these days LLM) for help.
Then what's the purpose of beginner friendly distros? Just install what everyone else is using and spend another 10 minutes on Google rather than deal with the continuous overhead of Mint having a 90s display server or rebuilding Bazzite over trivial changes?



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