>Samsung earned $5B in profits in 2023>Samsung earned $31B in profits in 2025>Samsung employees are striking for a share of the profits>Samsung offered $340,000 to each worker>Samsung workers rejected the offer, say they want what SK Hynix offered, which is $477,000 bonus this year, then $900,000 next yearWhy are Samsung employees so GREEDY?Don't they know if they continue their strike, there's going to be a GLOBAL SHORTAGE of chips/ram/GPUs/etc?Why are they like this?Who is /g/ siding with?
Asians expect to be rich, not sniveling little trailer timmys.
>commies vs kikesI was about to post that LOTGH pic, but I gotta say based commies on this one. OTOH, I hope the kikes hodl the line and the commies do strike. Fuck samsung and fuck their AI buyers.
>>108775967men have big dreams, and they organize for it340k might be enough for timmy to stroke his little clitty in his basement
>>108776012>men have big dreams, and they organize for itb--b-b-b--b--B_B_-b---b--b_B-b-but that.... g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-gGOMMUNISM!!! for GOOMIES!!! You're supposed to eat shit forever as you're crushed under a boot, demanding nothing until you're laid off one day with no warning!!!!
>>108775967Holy shitI work in this industry and make 1/4 of that as salary Fucks sake I am so underpaid, I should just go into oil and gas
ITT: mayoids learn they are poor
I really dislike timmys bros.
>>108776026Stop HURTING the BUSINESS! They company NEEDED that $30B in recognized profits (with more that isn't declared because it's re-invested into the company). How will the company GROW without $30,000,000,000+? How will they hire more people? Don't retarded COMMIES know that the money would trickle down at the end anyways? Why do you want to get paid nearly a MILLION dollars for FREE while not doing EXTRA WORK?
>>108776027You work in this industry but unfortunately, you were not born to a country that values it's people or serves their interests first. That goes to Asian countries. Instead, you're a slave who happened to move up to the "Executive Slave" position, contributing far more than any of these regular factory workers do to your company but earning far, far less. Those go to the shareholders and CEO because you don't have anyone who represents you.
what's the korean equivalent of the samurai?
>>108775967I would do their job for $50k
>>108776089KEEEEK well you see little man: Your fellow """"people"""" sold you out before you were born by drop-shipping 100% of all industry to them in the 60s because, at the time, they were making microchips for pennies on the dollar. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, the Government (Who is a real government and not servile slaves of the Chosen Ones who were promised the entire planet 2000 years ago) put in checks and balances to ensure their labor could never leave them again and industry would remain perfectly safe in their homogenous country. You get to fight and beg for the same position for $50K, which you will not get, because your country gave up the ability to even build the factories these workers stand in because the lack of Government regulation and accountability let Silicon Valley drop-ship the entirety of- what should have been- state secrets that were highly protected. It's never coming back. You'll be fighting for minimum wage jobs before a singular politician even admits that maybe allowing outsourcing on trivial tasks is more harmful in the long run than protectionism.
>>108776089Well you can't, the reason the tariffs and attempts to lure manufacturing back to the US do not work is because this is effectively a lawless land of chaos and disorder. The amount that these companies would pay to ship these factories back here would eclipse any salary these workers are asking for. Worse: Once the factories are here, you, person with 0 manufacturing experience or training, would get none of those jobs. They would fly the same workers demanding pay increases in to work here. Or worse: The shareholders who are now emboldened by the factories being relocated to a lawless land of chaos, would instantly rally for 100% of the workforce to be replaced by H1B Jeets. Because if they're going to hire someone with zero manufacturing experience, they're going to hire someone who will do the job for 5K a year, not 50K. In all ways, manufacturing and industry in the Land of the Free is cooked.
>>108776089>50kif you could you wouldn't
>>108775967Fair. If the company continues to do well, they get more money.If it doesn't, they get less money.Fair.
If anything it'd be retarded for them not to try to bust Samsung's balls right now. The AI slop retard goldrush is still ongoing and the workers know the company can't afford to miss out.
>>108776164I can and I would>>108776154>you, person with 0 manufacturing experience or trainingI've worked at Toyota as a maintenance technician since I graduated high school a decade ago, but whatever
>>108775979>>108776012>>108776049Timmy means victory.
>>108775967LITERAL nothing burgerI'm actually disappointed in them. Pathetic 300 dollar raise.>>108776027>>108776089retards
I'm with the samsung employees, go fuck yourself you fucking corporate shill
>>108776216>retardsnobody tell him LOL
>>108775967That money should go to Israel
>>108776222HOLYFUCKINGBASED*KNEELS*
>>108776216Anon... it's $340k USD, not 340k won.
>>108775967>Why are Samsung employees so GREEDY?it's a rat race, the subhumans on top aren't more intelligent, if these retards can get billions then it's only fair for hte actual workers to get millionsthey wanted capitalism? this is capitalism, it's all about playing your cards to get what you want
a one time bonus lol these cunts think they slickSamsung is retarded keep these games up they'll just leave and go to Hynix.They know their fab skills are in high demand right now and Hynix already gives their employees the 10% profit sharing. The greed and corruption of the samshit chaebol knows no bounds. Keep playing samshit.
>>108775967>>>Samsung workers rejected the offer, say they want what SK Hynix offered, which is $477,000 bonus this year, then $900,000 next yearHynix did not offer them these figures randomly. Hynix put in place with the workers agreements for yearly profit sharing percentage. It's 10-15% of profits. That's where the numbers are coming from.Right now Samsung is offering a ONE-TIME bonus and they know they are making even more next year. Samsung better just put the deal in place they are already losing billions on this 20 day strike. OP is a faggot
>>108776009fuck the tech oligarchs altogether. giga based teriyakis
How come in the USA, workers don't get a percent of profits?How come workers at Tesla or Amazon or Microsoft don't get a percent of what their employer makes?
>>108776315theyre undocumented and afraid to stand up
>>108775967good, fuck samsung. they took away my ability to unlock my bootloader without telling me in the patchnotes
US federal minimum wage is $7.25. How much would each American McDonald's worker be paid if they got a 20% share of McDonald's profit?
>>108776049Stay in India then.
>>108776315there's no such thing as unions in the US they tried it and mafia took them over and killed the union leaders
>>108776394It's worse than that, we have anti-unions. Actual organized labor is completely toothless (Taft-Hartley) but it's easy to set up an organization that does nothing but soak up membership fees, which is why boomers hate unions to a psychotic degree.
>>108776394>>108776404Uh, BASED? FUCK communists! Ford made $20B in profits in 2023. If they had a revenue sharing scheme, workers would've been paid an extra $400-800k that year, depending on how profit sharing went, like what the communist company SK Hynix did. This would mean Ford couldn't reinvest into their own company and make better trucks.
>>108775967Samsung and SK Hynix shareholder here.Those workers didn't drive the share value up, the AI bubble did.And when it all comes crashing down will they also take responsibility and give their bonus back before committing seppuku? - or will they blame the AI bubble that time?If they want to share in the profits they can buy shares like anyone else.But they don't want that because they only want the ride up not the dips down.
>>108776315They’ll just import workers from overseas to replace you
>>108776315Cool it with the antisemitic remarks.
>>108776315Timmies are born goycattle.
>>108775967Extremely based. Fuck scamsung and honestly fuck all giga corps.
>>108775967>rejected $340,000Fucking based holy shit, godspeed Kore-anons
>>108776439I actually think that the dodge v ford decision didn't go far enough, naturally the only purpose of an enterprise should be to enrich its owners; almost all corporate profits should be paid out as dividends. And yet, in our legal system, it is perfectly permissible for a company to pay no dividends to its owners? How does that make any sense?
>>108776561You're not wrong. The business owner assumed all the risk when he started his business. He grew the business himself. If Nvidia is worth $5,140,000,000,000, why should ANY of his workers be entitled to his profits? You don't like it? Get another job, and fuck off. Plenty of people will be willing to worth for less.It's like when the courts blocked Elon's $56,000,000,000 payout package. It's HIS money.
>>108776561Dodge v. Ford isn't as relevant to modern corpo issues as people think it is. You aren't legally required to maximize profit for shareholders at all costs, the private sector does it entirely of its own volition.
>>108776524>>108776213>>108775979>>108776049What's wrong with Timmies?
>>108776574publicly traded companies are of course not owned by one person, but jointly owned by many, who are entitled to those profits instead of the CEO, who is my employee if I own even one share
>NOOOOOOOOOO! I WORKED 60 HOURS A WEEK FOR THE PAST 40 YEARS! I DESERVE 0.01% OF YOUR $10,000,000,000 YOU EARNED EVERY YEAR!lolLMAO!
>>108776080Hwarang
>>108776574yeah yeah whatever, cough up the money already or your company is going up in flameswho gives a fuck about whose god appointed whose mother to fondle my ballsPay up or the evil corporation is going up in flames
These chinks are bug hivemind and going to work in those factories is like going to work with your cousins and siblings, they all know each-other and yet they still call it work.
>>108776315America was founded by butthurt rich people.
>>108776561>it is perfectly permissible for a company to pay no dividends to its owners? How does that make any sense?Because many owners/shareholders don't want dividends.You have to pay taxes over dividends.And many shareholders just end up buying extra shares with their dividend earnings.I have my own company and I give myself the lowest wage legally allowed and only pay dividend when I need the money.Instead I invest my company's profits on the stock market which makes any losses tax deductable.Eventually I'll get a bank loan against my company's assets to get access to the money without paying taxes.
>>108776315>>108776394>>108776475>>108776524We literally used to, they were called 401Ks. Every white collar worker used to get a 401K plan, which was investment in the company and the most profitable parts of the market. Nobody works white collar jobs anymore, they're all "Contractors" or gig jobs. So nobody has a 401K. Unions may have prevented them from laying everyone off and hiring them back as contractors with no rights, but this ultimately comes down as a failure by the government for not regulating this in the first place when it happened the first time. This was something no government would have tolerated even 30 years ago.
>>108775979if everybody is rich then nobody is you retarded commie
>>108775967Jeet hands typed this postNo other group would cuck this hard to corporations.
>>108776684That's a lot of words to say that you would really prefer to receive dividends, but the tax structure precludes it.
>>108776706>but we'll stop having rich peopleok?
>>108776716>I'm okay living poorly if everybody else is poor toohow indian of you
>>108776707White Americans will. One of the largest country, with a high number of guns-per-capita, with a constitution that guarantees their right to use their arms against tyranny, but yet would do nothing, even for one Italian plumber.
>>108776706>If I don't get fucked over by corpo-government monopolies, who will???I wonder the mentality of the trailer park retard who genuinely believes this shit.
>>108776719do you think that "rich" means "not poor"? are you esl?
>>108776574>The business owner assumed all the risk when he started his business.That's a myth.Starting a business usually isn't risky at all.Sure you'll have some personal money and a lot of personal time invested in it.But when it goes bust it's the bank and your customers who end up footing the bill.Then you rinse and repeat until maybe after going bankrupt 5 times you get lucky and spawn a profitable business.You might never get lucky and waste a lot of time.But it won't ruin your life, you'll just have to go back to being a wage slave.
>>108776721And they never use them, not even once. Not even little pellet guns against literal pieces of plastic being used to spy on them 24/7. They all know You Won't Do Shit™ so they don't bother taking that, too. They rather just let you live in dirt and conquer your mind to think having slightly more money will make the world end.
>>108776726yes rich is literally the opposite of poor you fucking buffoon
>>108776737please learn english before posting on an english imageboard
>>108776706boohoo we are so poor, everyone has $5 million dollars in net worth, hamburgers are so expensive, they are $20 each, I have to cook my own hamburgers, I don't have the time to do so, because I take siestas to go to the park in the afternoonbut life sucks because there are no rich people in the country, woe is me, what a sad existence!!!
>>108776715Well yes.But I guess my real point is laws are made to offer tax loopholes to rich people and business owners.If they made dividends mandatory some very rich and powerful people would make sure those politicians never gets elected ever again.
>>108776731Incorrect. Business owners assume massive risk and deserve massive reward for doing so. If a business fails the business owner dies. If a business fails then employees simply get another job after bending a different business owner over the barrel. Face it. Employees are parasites. Thankfully AI is here to replace them.
>>108776741you can't be fucking serious lmao
>>108776743what the fuck are you blabling about you redditspacing faggot
>>108776706>>108776719>>108776737can't tell if troll or just indian. your parents (assuming you are white which is a huge stretch) considered themselves middle class with enough money from a middle-class job to own a house, a car, a family, and education for all of them. They didn't think they were rich. You're living a nightmare existence of either being brown in a shill center, or being the exact poverty line that we used to speak of the Soviet Union as being. Too poor to own property, too poor to leave the country, too poor to hold down a job, and too brainwashed to think that there is any other way you could live.
>>108776760holy shit you really are an esl. why doesn't your country have an imageboard? why do you have to invade english imageboards?
>>108776770>btfoed by a simple dictionary>zero rebutaltoo fucking easy
>>108776769nobody gives a shit about your retarded "american dream", faggot, I guarantee I live a happier life than you if you had all of this and more
>>108776737>>108776760>>108776773>>108776776It's a very indian mindset to think that if you're not dirt-poor shitting in a field, then you must be rich. Us, on /g/, have to accommodate for you because we don't live under an oppressive Caste system where the only options are to live like a lower-middle class person in America or be so poor that your village has a singular toilet that you worship like a shrine, like you do. So apologies for our culture shock, for having to explain that there is a gradient of wealth to a brown person like yourself.
>>108776780didnt read lmao. thanks for the (You)s, though
>>108776770>>108776776>arguing with native speakers about their own languageExplain your logic.
>>108776776I do have this, because I am well-off and debt-free. The fact you have to speak as if this is a hypothetical, and worse: you speak of it like it's a bad thing or is unobtainable, simply tells us that you're likely extremely brown and incapable of even visualizing how much wealth the average American has.
>>108776027I'm in the exact same position. I work on pivotal software used by this entire industry and my corpo makes record profits every fucking quarter after quarter.
>>108776786I didn't type it in Hindi, so I already know you can't read it.
>>108776748>would make sure those politicians never gets elected ever againI hope one day these very rich and very powerful people might do that instead of letting New Dealers get elected forever
>>108776798This will never happen, what does happen is when the previous generation of oppressive fuck-you-got-mine old person dies off, a new generation of oppressive old person ages to take their place. This is a never-ending cycle. We've effectively broke every social contract to where every old person just thinks it's their duty to ruin the lives of the young people as much as they can before they go, and those young people will grow up to ruin the lives of their age's young people as a consequence. There is going to be no Total Boomer Death, it's just going to be the Total Boomer Replacement.
>>108776796why are you so insecure about your supposed wealth?
>>108776805I thought you just said that you didn't read it? Did your supervisor come over to translate for you?Put him on the line, I'll explain it to an upper-caste person so he can translate it to Dahlit.
>>108776813I didn't, I figured you're the same faggot here >>108776788so I ask again, why are you so insecure about your supposed wealth?
>>108776813hold on, I speak some dalit, i can explain for him.>>108776805train train, shit shit, field field, train train, crush crush crush ow ow crush train train shit shit field train crush crush train shit field train juggernaut electrocute. we at /g/ are always happy to accommodate =-)
>>108776823why are you so insecure about your supposed wealth?
>>108775967Koreans are some of the greediest people I've ever met aside from jeets and jews. I don't think they're wrong though here, they should get a fat bonus check instead of the shareholders who did nothing to produce it. They at least earned it and the shareholders earned nothing. Anyway, as long as they stay solid they can easily blackmail the company into paying it because the alternative is the stock tanks completely.
>IM RICH OK???? IM RICH AND I DESERVE TO BE RICH BECAUSE IM RICH!!!!1 YOU'RE INDIAN REEEEE JEALOUS I'M RICH BECAUSE I AM AMERICAN AND YOU'RE POOR BECAUSE INDIA I'M RICH REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>108776817>I didn't, I figured you're the same faggot hereThat was me, and it's obvious: most people on this board think you're a poor faggot. Lecturing white people about ME OL' BOOTSTRAPS WANTING WORKERS RIGHTS IS GOMMUNISM is proof that you're poorer than dirt. Only poor retards think this in this country and only brown retards think this outside our country.
>>108776834Who are you quoting?
>>108776826>why are you so insecure about your supposed wealth?train train shit shit field train shit field train in the off-chance I'm speaking with your supervisor: literally the only insecure one is the retard thinking basic worker rights is wanting to be rich. most countries organize into unions, your brown shithole where you're treated as a slave is not normal.
>>108776851>why are you so insecure about your supposed wealth? please redeem my question
>>108776561>>108776574Except Ford owned 60% of the company and was the only one with a controlling stake in the company when the dodge brothers, who owned a tiny minority in stakes, which may have been non-voting stakes, sued him and won. The real owner of the company got fucked by Michigan's kike judges. It's HIS company. Having an 10% IOU is worth jackshit. Any sane judge would have told the kikebros to go dodge the holocaust in germany and deported them.
>>108776315be the change you want to see in the world
>>108775967>Why are Samsung employees so GREEDY?Koreans have the same poverty complex as blacks, so they're extremely materialistic now.But they need to shit-test samsung regardless.
>>108776027Oh man, so much this, I work in this industry as well and I get paid basically peanuts for what is a very stressful job
>>108775967kys sandeep
>>108776439On thing is that an argument could be made that tying wages with company performance creates incentives that maximize shareholder value anyways. I mean isn't that how performance-based bonuses work?Secondly, this entire issue can be sidestepped by offering stock options, turning employees into stakeholders themselves. If you as an employee would rather just take cash instead of stock options, it means you think the company is going to be worth less over time. So the question becomes why you think you're entitled to a slice of the profits when you aren't willing to take a slice of the losses. Like you either are invested in the company or just work there, you gotta choose.
>>108775967everybody is greedy
>>108776616it's a thing with people who live in filth and eat poop, idk why they're spamming it here.
>>108776959my wealthiest friends are people who worked at Amazon 20 years ago and always took their stock options. I like stock options, but you have to be discerning, my dad lost everything that he had in stock in 2008
>>108775979Asians have the most poor people in the worldthey drag the average down HARD. they deserve to be cheap labor, for now and all eternity
Unironically 20% to the workers isn't a bad idea. Businesses tax mick makes the tax much lower for them
>>108775967i told my fellow web devs that we needed unions 10 years ago. they looked at me weird. now we're all jobless.
>>108776315>>108776394not true. i work in oil and gas doing software. all the plant operators are union. we are not allowed to implement new automation that in any material way eliminates a function of their job. they've got it fucking sewn up. i think people either basically have never heard of a union before, or it's a very serious part of how their shit operates day to day, and there's no in-between. so there's basically zero shot that non-unionized industries would become unionized.
>>108776721White Americans are Jeet coded at this point anyway.
>>108777057They have been psyopped. It's not more than that.
>>108775967shareholders wont be pleased by this
>>108775967samshit BTFO
>>108777003How would Union help when everyone gets replaced by Sukhdeep at the same time?
>>108775967all korean memory makers did is getting extremely lucky. samsung, hynix etc. should all burn to a crisp for allowing such insane contracts, pushing up the prices for 99% of their customers.
>>108776080they never had such a thing
>>108776561>How does that make any sense?the board should be enacting the will of shareholders, so logically not enough shareholders want payouts otherwise if they did the board would payout to shareholders or lose their jobs at the AGM. when a company is owned by too many shareholders, the majority are silent and uninvolved and so their view isn't counted. the shareholders can state their wishes to the board and then the board either do it or face the wrath of the most powerful group of shareholders
>>108775967I'm siding with the workers, hate to burst your bubble but (You) don't own and never will own a megacorp chip maker, you're extremely retarded and brainwashed. hope that helps
>>108775967I.e. when business is good they want percentage of profits, but when business is as usual they want fixed pay? seems like wanting your cake and eating it too to me.
>>108775967Remember when we used to pity the asians for their long hours and lack of labour dignity? Well look where they are now, meanwhile white countries like Argentina are adopting 996 and going backwards
>>108777306There's nothing we can do but be their paypiggies if our onshoring efforts are gonna keep failing because of bad policies and wall street
ITT: timmyshits bitch and moan because they did poorly in school, expect to be paid well regardless, and are too dumb to network properly with extended family
>>108776027>this industryYou aren't working in a DRAM fab, any interruption due to worker cycling is way too much money lost. Other fab workers have the same skill, but not the same leverage.
>>108777765The Asians working in fabs not constrained to shit by the AI goldrush aren't making this money.
>>108777736This is the time to make generational wealth in case the elite do manage to get AI to obey and completely lock in wealth.One way or another, this will not last more than a few years. Grab as much as you can, if you can.
>>108777839>t. turboNEET loser
>>108776213you lost americanny
>>108777736These corps would gladly nickel and dime you for the most absurd shit. Why would you NOT negotiate for the most compensation you can get out of them? There is no morality here.
>guy makes hundreds of chips an hour>they sell for $1,000,000>he gets paid $20 in that hourHow are chip manufacturers able to earn such high margns?What would YOU do if you earned $30B+ in PURE profits every year?
>>108778547We already know. Try to make more profits. These people are addicted to just amassing more and more money and power. They're also beholden to shareholders who demand growth which means bigger profits rather than just sustainable profits. You can sometimes make concessions and redistribute the profits, but you can't fix the root of the problem without dismantling the fucked-up system that is capitalism itself.
You idiots know how little 340k of their money is? That’s not even worth a day of work at Walmart here in the US.
>>108776222>Israeland Saudi Arabia of course.>>108776663>America was founded by butthurt rich people.The founding fathers was freemasons
>>108775967>Don't they know if they continue their strike, there's going to be a GLOBAL SHORTAGE of chips/ram/GPUs/etc?That's what we call a good bargaining position.
From a game theory perspective these workers have insane leverage. They can't be quickly replaced and the entire global economy is dependent on their continuous output.The moment the profit 6x'd they could ask for 6x compensation because what the fuck is the company going to do? Risk production shutdown, fire everyone and training new workers that maybe are up and running in 2 years time?I would be asking for a $2,000,000 bonus in their position, they have the leverage to pull it off.
OMG you misinformed mfers pissed me off so much I got off my ass and to a real computer. >>108778654It's USD$340,000 per worker. Yes, you are reading it correctly. And they are bitching because their main competition, SK Hynix, is paying AN EVEN HIGHER BONUS to their workers. Samsung is in the middle of a windfall, literally choking on the spigots of cash it's making from the AI boom. All that money you're spending on inflated RAM, CPU, graphics cards? It's going to manufacturers that have jacked up prices to the point that the workers are demanding some of it as well. This is the power of organized labor. >>108776315>How come workers at Tesla or Amazon or Microsoft don't get a percent of what their employer makes?They do. It's called WAGES. Anything saved on wages becomes extra profit. > NO I MEAN PROFIT SHARINGI hate people that don't understand basic business finance and accounting. That you don't understand how that works is why you're a wagie to begin with. Go take a fucking class or something. > BUT MUH PROFIT SHARINGFine. I'll pick UAW. Go look at their most recent contract negotiations with GM, Ford, and Stellantis (or w/e the fuck it's called now). Line guys are making $87K average as a base, along with substantial overtime, plus a profit sharing plan. Tesla's avoided UAW (along with NADA franchised dealership nonsense.) Amazon has so far managed to avoid unionization (the one place it took hold, NJ, they are still refusing to bargin with lol.) Microsoft outsources manufacturing, for a variety of reasons, and unions aren't strong with white collar. Not that any of them are hurting, anyway. t. former auto. Worst industry ever, except maybe oil and gas
>>108778754It's not just that. Chips are a cutthroat game. There are only a handful of players in the global market. The longer Samsung goes without production (already 20 days into the strike) the longer other companies will eat up their market share. For example, deals and contracts are made for years in advance. If some airplane company signs for $10B worth of chips over the next 5 years, that's something Samsung will miss out on.It's why the US wanted to prevent China from making advanced chips. Because if they did, they would get $1T for free, in perpetuity every year, should they corner the entire market.The workers aren't even asking for much, Samsung earns way more than SK Hynix, and the workers' compensation is lower.Problem is that Samsung was ever into profit sharing. They kept their wages extremely low, and had insane profit margins. If this contract is not short term, and it's for every year going forward, they'd be losing billions in paying their workers high-6/low-7 figure bonuses every year.Imagine if every Korean lived like Qataris, earning millions every year, and being able to buy everything they've ever needed because they're sitting on wealth (chips) like Qataris do oil/gas.
>>108776992Indians are not asian, rajesh.
>>108777839You will always be a ricedick regardless so don't you worry about me.
>>108775967Why dont they have stocks? Their stocks would have exploded if they had one and increased their wealth proportionally with the state of the companyWhy do unions hate stock options?
>>108779851I remember in US, unions have banned stock options as part of compensation as they do not want to tie their wealth growth with that of the company's growth.
>>108775967not greedy at all if that is what sk hynix pay their workersscamsung has literally the same identical products
>>108776706and thats a good thing, you vaxxMAXXED golem
>>108776334If you exclude corporate, its something like 1800-1900$ per US worker, if we go by 2024 numbers.
>>108779851Not really. If Samsung's stock went up 500%, they're getting paid more than 500% of their salary if they win this strike. And they didn't have to invest all their money into stocks, they could be getting paid a salary + getting a split of the profits.This could also be in perpetuality. Getting paid a base salary + $1M every year.
>>108780065Stock growth is exponential the longer employees work. Someone who worked 1 year and is paid 1 year of stock doesnt have same as someone who has worked 5 years or 10 or 20 years. You cant reap the rewards from 1 years work at the company as the value of your own contribution is minimal. But for someone who has worked for the company for 10+ years with stocks, their rewards are in tens of millions to hundreds of millions. If they had chosen stock
>>108778972they are you fucking imbecile lol just south not east
>>108779905>scamsung has literally the same identical productsSamsung is differentiated, they do a lot more than make DRAM and SSDs. The rest is actually hurting, not benefitting.
This only works for a short time.We saw the same thing here in Germany.German auto workers demanding humongous bonus because they screw in 2 screws on a VW Golf for 8 hours a day. It was granted because profits were there whatever.Now that the industry is in decline those workers are all too expensive and they move the factories to Poland and Czech Republic.
>>108775967> Here is your poorfag money broOhh anon, you are naive. The bonus Samsung offered them is an insult, a public humiliation. The CEOs can stick that up their ass, Samsung needs to pay up
>>108775967Sounds reasonable to me, the compensation for your work should be fair and reasonable in relation to the value your work provides. If their work has massively increased in value then so should the compensation for it.
>>108775967I could retire so easily with $340k
>bharat_nation
>>108776706Thanks for confirming that richfags intentionally bottomed out the middle class to horde more shit for themselves.
>>108780160Good morning, sir.
>>108776658The Jew fears it.
>>108776439>>108776561post nose
>>108776439For the 1000th time, Dodge brothers won because Ford was a fucking retard that refused to even try to justify the spend.
>>108776881The "REAL" owner of a company would own 100% of it. You want financing without control go talk to a bank or sell a fucking bond. He didn't, he sold his control. You may be a little slow, so let me spell it out for you - selling something means you no longer have it. You don't get to shit on minority shareholders just because they are a minority.You also can't just refuse to give any justification on why you did something as the CEO, or you get fucked in courts. Without a "higher wages allow the company to retain top talent and maintain market position" there is no difference between giving a raise to all employees and wiring all of the company's money to your mistress
>>108775967corporate have no one to blame but itself. they showed the world that to be greedy was good. well there you have it. now everyone wants more. now nobody wants to settle for less. good work.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVxYOQS6ggk
>>108775967under communism they just be steamrolled by samsung manufactured tanks
>>108777736>when when your work's value is as usual they want to pay you a fixed sum, when it skyrockets they still want to pay a fixed sum, but when it drops they don't want to pay you at all? Seems like wanting your cake and eating it too
>>108782312under capitalism they just be vaxxed to flatten the curve
>18 daysYou have to say 18 days renewable strike aka unlimited strike until demands are met. They'll bargain for half.Fish headed bug people really need to learn .
>>108779851Because the value of stocks is inversly correlated to the spend on employees.If these employees win the fight their salary will go up, but the stock value will go down.If they lose the stock will go up, but not their salary.If instead of buying shares in the company you work for you bought them for the company you don't, you could enjoy BOTH a higher salary from your work for the workers winning AND higher stock value from the other company from their workers losing.Not to mention that as the value of your company goes down the risk of your position being cut goes down, so you have a higher risk exposure than other investors.In short, the goals of the employee and the shareholder are in opposition. Investing in your workplace has negative alpha compared to pure investors.
>>108782312That'll be capitalism too in 20 years.
>>108776616Pajeet's took over Tim Horton's, so Timmy means the same thing as jeet now.
>>108776027O&G is fucked right now anyway, unless if you have experience laying people off and moving jobs to India.
>>108776222kek
>>108780717>If their work has massively increased in valueIt hasn't though,Output hasn't increased.Efficiency hasn't increased.The wokers aren't working harder, better or smarter.The only thing that increased is demand.And that's all on AI companies, not on Samsung.At most the sales representatives deserve a bonus for selling RAM at a higher price.
>>108778918>The workers aren't even asking for much, Samsung earns way more than SK Hynix, and the workers' compensation is lower.Samsung gives 13% of its profits to employees as bonuses, SK Hynix 10%.The real difference is Samsung is a massive company with many divisions, whereas SK Hynix really just makes RAM.The Samsung employees making RAM chips demand higher bonuses.The Samsung employees making SOC chips will get nothing.The Samsung employees making phones will get nothing.The Samsung employees making screens will get nothing.
>>108782607KOSHER!! PIT THE GOYIM AGAINST EACH OTHER! Your wisdom is truly endless, rabbi-sama
bruh if i was working a job where i made 340k usd are these guys like kings in south korea or is it just really expensive there
>>108775967do you want indians in you factory? thats how you get unlimited indians in your factory
are you guys 100% super positive they mean USD?
This is why Samsung should just pay them btwTheir knowledge is so in demand and critical right now that customers are willing to spend hundreds of millions to buy the EUV machines needed to make the ram for these companies. They just don't know how to make it themselves. Hynix is losing money by being at over 100% capacity and just not able to accept extra work.But if they suddenly gained a few more employees looking for some opportunities. Samsung's upper level greed is going to fuck them if this keeps up.
>>108775979The airbourne virus is coming, poopjeet.
>>108783992korean companies are mega ethnocentric
>>108783992Might as well, can pay Indians $10,000 to push buttons instead of greedy Koreans asking for $1M.
>>108783992t. Mallory
>>108784196>Their knowledge is so in demand and critical right now that customers are willing to spend hundreds of millions to buy the EUV machines needed to make the ram for these companiesBut /g/ kept telling me how making chips was super easy and all you need to do was get an EUV machine to do all the work? Why don't these "customers" just buy the EUV machines and make the chips themselves?
>>108775967+1 Respect for Koreans as a people
>>108783992only if Koreans are stupid enough to let the government import jeets
>>108783992Koreans aren't like your average mutt golem. They would fucking murder jamboy in broad daylight.
>>108776315Aren't the stocks you get the same thing? They go up if the company is doing well.
>>108775967>>108782607>>108782579>>108782244jejmeanwhile in """""the land of the free""""">>108783686>>108783992>>108784918Why do Americans hate their own workers and despise skilled labor so much? Is it an inferiority complex? You can't hire unskilled jeets to push some buttons because these chips are working at tolerances that are on the atomic level. You require almost lifelong training and a skilled workforce who is highly educated with extremely high IQs and is well-protected in functioning unions. The USA *****USED***** to have this, but then everyone since the 1970s until today started doing this: >>108783686 Laying everyone off, thus breaking the generational cycle of manufacturing and apprenticeship, replacing them with Dahlits, and having to eternally live with their balls in China, Japan, or Korea's hands because no other country is jewish or stupid enough to intentionally sacrifice their workforce like we did.
>>108785076can't we just hire some dalits to boopboopbeepbeep :^( I inherited my company from my grandparents and don't know dick about computers or technology but grok says if I lay off another 50% of my workforce then we can hire mcdonalds workers with GEDs to do skilled apprenticeships in soldering, that's all this is, right?
>>108775967Samsung has two options:- pay up and actually earn that money- let them strike and lose both employees to SKH and revenue If 15% of profit is 400k for everyone, so be it. What were they going to do that the remaining 85% is not enough?
>>108785482If they increased that payout by 2.5-5x, a lot of them gooks are set for life and just gonna quit on the spot anyway. Better to just fire them right now and keep the profits, not like SKHynix has the capacity or capital to hire all of Samsung's employees anyway
>>108785510>If they increased that payout by 2.5-5x, a lot of them gooks are set for life and just gonna quit on the spot anyway.Do Americans really believe that if they don't charge slave labor prices then everyone will just quit and don't work? As noted by the article: SKH employees already make this amount, and they haven't quit because for one, they are masters training apprentices and they are valued enough to care about the future of their trade. For two, if they quit, then they quit making that money, and they are the only skilled labor in the world right now making this money during the height of an economic boom.I know burgermutts have been brainraped by jewish financial into thinking that if they don't suffer 24/7 with zero recourse to fight their fellow worker for worse than table scraps, then the entire world will goosestep to communism and Stalin will rise again, but the rest of the world isn't like that. Most of the world values the effort of their labor and disputes are about how long their tenure should be and not how little they can get away with paying them.
>>108775967>340k / 10000 workers enjoy your 3.5 dollars sweaty don't ask for more either
