it's not a desktop distro just use cachyos
SteamOS on a desktop is just worse Arch. It works fine on dedicated gaymen devices but there's no reason to use it as a general purpose OS.
>>108776231KrashDE
>>108776239How is it worse?
>>108776293The immutability shit makes doing anything more cumbersome.
>>108776231I mean if you only use your computer for gaming and web browsing then you're fine to do so. Once you want to install anything else, it being immutable is a huge headache.
>>108776231You'd be 100X better just running Bazzite or CachyOS, depending on your preference.
>>108776237Cachy is only maintained by 4 people (not enough to patch a zero day asap). I want something with more than 4 people working on it able to respond and patch stuff quickly. Cachyos is just not it.
>>108776231As another anon said, the immutable file system shit makes it bad for general purpose desktop use.
>>10877641499% of the work of CachyOS is done for them by the Arch jannies. It's mostly a meme distro but if you really wanna use it, this probably isn't a major concern.
>>108776362>Once you want to install anything else, it being immutable is a huge headache.It's a bit weird because the whole point of Steam is to make installing things super easy.Yeah, 99.9% of software on Steam are games but I don't see why this has to be the case?Why can't they sell Adobe software on Steam?Why can't they add basic applications like text editors on Steam?It would still be a super locked down system but I feel if the Steam store widens its scope just a little bit it could cover all the computer needs of the vast majority of people while being much easier to maintain and importantly if you buy a new device all your applications move with you.
Other than doing it to tinker, why bother?
>>108776606That is actually an interesting point. I forget Steam has a lot of software, and if they did sell proprietary products that aren't available on Linux and made it work with proton then they could be quite successful.
>>108776606Can't wait to rack up 1000 hours on foot
>>108776606>why can't they just put all the available software in an app store for super easy 1-click installsYou rang?
>>108776231Depends on your goal but if you wanna play games on your PC then Bazzite is tailor made for that. If you wanna do other things beside just playing games then Ubuntu/Fedora/CachyOS are all good alternatives. You don't need to wait for Valve to handhold you.
>>108776231I saw someone say it resets all your settings and user info every time it updates
>>108776414Gentoo
>>108777435Based
>>108776606steam isn't a software repository, it's drm garbage, that's whydo you really want to use a text editor with drm in it???
>>108776231Why would you want to used a closed-off distro made by an amerishart corporation when you can already use something like CachyOS or Bazzite instead? People waiting for SteamOS to come to desktop to make the switch to Linux genuinely baffle me. They must be NPCs who think having corporate backing magically makes things better.
It is advertised as a desktop distro, so I'm going to use as a desktop distro tell me why I can't?
>>108776231No.
>>108776231
>>108776948based and chameleonpilled
>>108776231Yes, it's going to be made for retarded normiesCompared to a normal distro you get immutability, tiny repo, more windowsian type of updates, you're meant to get your shit through flatpak and maybe they'll add a toggle for AURNo point in trying it unless you want the limitations for your safety
>>108777563I thought steamos was open source? Are you saying we can't see their code?
>>108777563>having corporate backing magically makes things better.it unironically did though; valve's involvement in wine/proton produced a huge leap in compatibility for vidya which is arguably the most relevant thing for the audiences you described. so I guess in their mind using SteamOS as opposed to something else is making the most sense if all they want to do is play games and consume media.
>>108776362I lived out of my Steam Deck for about a week a year ago and everything I installed there via pacman is still there.I've never looked into immutable distros and what exactly that means, but installing packages the same way you would on Arch is just as easy.
>>108776231>Are there any downsides to running SteamOS as a desktop?This depends on your usecase. Almost everything normies want is available as Flatpak/AppImage. And AFAIK, valve made a change, where you can decide, if you want to boot into Desktop / Gaming mode.>Gaming AppsHeroic, Lutris, Faugus, Bottles, Minecraft and much more is all available as Flatpak in the Store.>CreativeGimp, Krita, OBS, Handbrake, Kdenlive, Audacity... all in the Store.>EmulatorsAll available as Flatpak + AppImage and there is EmuDeck>OfficeYep, scanning, printing, libreoffice>PiracyTorrent, VPN, Jdownloader, all in the store>Dev toolsDistrobox + IDE's available.I'd say yes, it's very usable for most people, I wouldn't recommend it, if you need to do kernel stuff, but if you do.. you probably know. They even enabled Distrobox and a dir for /nix, so you can also use that.
>nonono you don't understand I NEED SteamOS to play vidya on my PC and finally ditch Windows.You can use Mint to play vidya just fine.>b-but muh super duper optimizationsYou don't need them. Your vidya will naturally be slower either way and you should be glad you can run them in the first place.Also SteamOS is something designed for the Steam Deck only. Valve will never turn it into a generic distro and every attempt of copying it falls flat on it's ass. Get your head out of your ass and stick to what works best. Everything Valve did to make vidya run on SteamOS applies to every single Linux distro in existence.Valve and Microsoft mindbroke everyone by releasing the Steam Deck and Windows 11. For the last five years everyone NEEDS a gaming distro to finally ditch Windows. The insufferable Linux shilling and the astroturfing of FOTM Linux distros only accelerated since then.
>>108776231Valve says themselves that you shouldn't use SteamOS as a desktop replacement. Just use Arch at that point.
>>108779174You'll never explain this to retards. These fuckshits truly believe SteamOS is Windows but not Windows and that they absolutely NEED it as they NEED to ditch Windows ASAP and won't accept any other solution.Mark my words, once the Steam Machine goes live, it'll get sold out and you'll see Redditors bragging about how they've replaced their PC's with them just because it has their mythical "Windows but not Windows OS" on it. That's all these retards care about. They don't care about learning how to make Windows less shit, or learn how to use Linux. They want a magical solution to their problems where everything is done by someone else and refuse to do anything themselves.
>>108779174unfortunately valve needs to turn steamos into a good retard friendly distro for greater linux adoptioncorpos aren't going to put linux on their prebuilts and laptops if it doesn't have solid backingand if you haven't noticed then everything debian related is a complete dumpster fire now and fedora comes with its gay fedoraisms that make it anal for new users, they sure as shit aren't going to ship bazzite with how unstable the developers arethe industry is currently counting on valve to deliver archbuntuthey would just need to make a few changes like defaulting to desktop mode and making it easier to download from aur and it would be fine, a normalfag doesn't need more than bazaar
>>108776231Do you want to build a Steam Machine / PConsole with AMD Hardware? For gayming only? Then yes, SteamOS is fine.Do you want a general purpose OS + gayming that isn't windows? Then just pick a mainstream distro.
>>108776231It's immutable in the worst way. You cant install system packages or libraries.
>>108779212>unfortunately valve needs to turn steamos into a good retard friendly distro for greater linux adoptionWho cares if more people use linux?
>>108776314Most zoomers are OK with flatpak shit. Truthfully they aren't doing any real work on their desktops anyway so it's NBD.
>>108776606Because SteamOS is built for Steam Deck and Steam Machine for gaming purpose only. Unless the old debian-based SteamOS where Valve did want it to be a general purpose OS.
>>108779403don't you want to witness the complete destruction and sinking of windows and macos?
>>108779184It's like you don't understand that most consumers aren't shut-in lardass hobbyists or developers...
>>108779647And it's like most consumers deserve to forever suffer Windows and forever bitch and moan about it if they're such docile cattle they refuse to put even a modicum of effort into making their lives just a little better.
>>108777701>discover*krashes*
>>108777572You can. It's just easier to use a normal desktop distro.
>>108779647The fact no normies have any real tech literacy these days because they're lazy and retarded is why we're all where we're at these days. Fuck them.
>>108779647then buy a nintendo switch, faggotoid
>>108777572I'm using my docked Steam Deck as a second PC, of course you can!
>>108776231Not really it's a console like experience OS with desktop functionality, if you are mostly using your PC for games most hours or browsing the web it would be pretty comfy. SteamOS will probably be the next OS to overtake Windows for home users and even most Linux distros just by being recognizable, the end of traditional desktop is near.
I used my Steam Deck as a desktop and it worked better than W10 LTSC, not just for gaymen but everything. The only things it couldn't run were deliberately Linux unfriendly like Fortnite. If Valve actually builds up SteamOS it will be worth using full-time.
