>>108777978
Opting out is the least mental overhead of all. But somehow you fucked that up too.

if you need an account on a jewish website to talk to your family then you don't have a family you have a herd of cattle
>anonymous

>>108778052
>t. autistic man who has no family or friends

>>108778072
that is all of /g/ however
this is a schizoid pedophile board, in case you're new here

>>108777978
using social media isnt "having a relationship" its staring at a fucking screen.
a relationship is physically interacting with people and having shared experiences, not staring at a fucking screen.

>mom uploads a pic of a cat
>I upvote it
cool relationship bro

>>108778109
The entire reason social media was originally created was to share things and strengthen relationships with the people you aren't able to see regularly, and a lot of people still use it in this way. I'm not saying it is a complete replacement for all of your social interactions.

Unless you're whistle-blowing or engaging in illicit activities, you don't need to privacymax.

>>108777978
You ever tried just calling your mom instead of throwing away all morality? No? Too hard for you?
Pathetic.

>>108778173
The entire reason I had this epiphany was logging into my Facebook for the first time in 5 years and seeing a bunch of unread messages from old friends and my younger sister, who lives on the other side of the country, saying she wishes we had a closer relationship.

>>108778203
Texting and calling people regularly and inviting them out places would have prevented this. I'm not sure how you view this as anything but your own various failings.

Lmao social media is fucking dead

Facebook and normiegram is just AI slop x99 real people don’t even upload photos anymore it just gets drowned by AI slop on anyone’s feed

Until we get a social media that requires digital id, hopefully an EU only one so no jeets and mutts, there’s 0 reason to use them

>>108777978
This is the same thing as the mRNA killshot. Let them eat shit.

>>108778172
>The UK and Germany don't exist
kys

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>>108778247
Well, free speech counts as an illicit activity there no?

>>108777978
>but what is the point of straining relationships with friends and family by completely refusing to use social media

they are the problem , they wanna give all their data to zuckerberg? they are the problem

>>108778259
Correct. That's how bongs and krauts keep getting jailed, even retroactively.

>>108778266
>they are the problem
You don't win anything for being right when realistically your life will be the exact same data collection or not.

>>108777978
Becoming enlightened about privacy has had the opposite effect for me; it's made me realize most of my relationships are rather shallow, so I cut most people off. I'm not willing to compromise my morals, especially when it's preferable to joining the niggercattle.

The majority of relationships most people have nowadays are rather shallow; they're acquaintances at best, but are treated as "friends" for whatever reason, even though neither party makes an effort to reach out. That's exactly how the relationship is maintained by both parties.

Mom it was nice knowing you but since you didn’t install my favorite encrypted private messaging app on a device that already tracks your every movement and keystroke you’re now goyimcoded niggercattle

>>108778392
it's funny because I'm pretty sure it's already been proven in court that the glowies have intercepted signal messages through device notifications.

>>108777978
You don't need to absolutely min-max privacy. You just need to not give your hole away for free to any and every company that asks for it.

>>108777978
personally the reason I don’t have social media isn’t privacy concerns, but because I never post anything, I have no one to talk to (certainly not 99%of my family who I haven’t interacted with in decades) so what is the point? I delete it every time I open one up

i stopped caring about privacy once i realized i'm the most boring person ever and no one cares about my existence

>>108778683
That's Linus Torvalds' take on privacy

>>108777978
>literal who paid demoralization eshitter
Not technology. Kill yourself.

If people/companies want your information there should be no problem with you taking their information.
All of it.
If they refuse/avoid you figure out how they are doing so and implement their techniques for your own privacy.

>>108778222
this
>>108778203
>he still had a facebook account
Nigger you are dumb.
The mental diseases social media is giving normgroids these days is reason enough to stay off it, privacy not even considered. No, you can't use it responsibly just like you can't use heroin responsibly.

so do you jack your dick to hentai while your mom is watching, if you don't care about privacy?

>>108777978
I was into that in the 2010 and COVID times and realized there's so much effort going into this it's impossible to really succeed. Also because your data is intertwined with other people/entities.
I just don't do the most dumb shit (treating gpt as my therapist, creating accounts everywhere, I try to keep my settings at a respectable level of opting out of data bs, social media use) but the real battle now is for my attention / brain / cognition.
The same people that looked at me weird when I deleted IG in 2020 now want to do the same today because it eats 2h of their day and they are stuck in a loop of install/uninstall

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>>108778731
>>No, you can't use it responsibly just like you can't use heroin responsibly.
>post
>read replies
>logoff
shrimple as

>>108777978
>After almost 7 years of worrying about privacy, I've realized I don't actually give a fuck.
It's mostly schizoid lunacy let's be real, the last 7 years you were going trough the five stages of grief.
>Of course, I will still continue to self-host my own email and use email aliases
Yeah this is a real problem, the aspect of the lack of ownership which makes you vulnerable but self hosting email to me seems a little too extreme.
>but what is the point of straining relationships with friends and family by completely refusing to use social media?
This is something I do not understand as normal people don't use social media were I live (or to an extend where it's normal to have friends and family on it). Social media mostly is a waste of time unless you are a PR or marketing guy.

>but what is the point of straining relationships with friends and family by completely refusing to use social media?
don't burn yourself out trying to fight for something that is worth it. your effort has to be sustainable.

I don't get the point of having social media like Instagram.
I have succumbed to using normie messaging apps like WhatsApp because these are pretty much necessary to get in contact with anyone or get anything done nowadays, but that's it. You don't need Instagram to talk to family.

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>>108777978
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYQGBuaYnCw
fuck glowies and fuck zogdogs

>>108777978
>'''friends'''
>Rely entirely on social media
Lmao

>>108777978
>>108779113
I refuse to use Facebook because 95% of the time it's just used to share brain rot and other dumb shit.
I see my family enough IRL to keep up with them. Personally I don't understand how people can be in constant contact 24/7
I have social media (X and pisscord) but it's very much not tied to any real identity

>>108778134
delusional. go ahead. keep watching tiktoks/shorts/reels of people you will never meet

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>>108777978
>hi, fellow anons
you forgot to set your names and postal address in the Name field.

>>108777978
Same, but the realization only hits you when it's already too late. I used to be proud of my complete rejection of social media and thougjt that all this stuff is for "normies". However, I wish I had kept in touch with people that I have met throughout my life. I mean, keeping friends/acquaintances/whatever, maybe occasionally messaging someone and saying hi, asking how they have been. It has never been easier to stay in contact than in all of human history. But no, I *had* to ghost and ignore everyone and everything. Sure, social media has made those interactions cheap and less valuable, but even if a tiny fraction of connections had survived, it would have meant a lot to me, especially now. All that vacuous superiority has led me nowhere.

>>108777978
muhhhh secuuuuuurityyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!

>>108779317
clearly you missed his point, retard. Interacting with friends on social media doesn't mean you're endlessly scrolling through TikTok.

>>108777978
>straining relationships with friends and family by completely refusing to use social media
if you require social media to have a relationship with friends and family, your relationships are already fucked, retard.

Refusing to stay in touch with relatives in a sane manner is almost uniquely American in how faggy it is.

>>108778172
Believe it or not, some people just don't want the CIA randomly looking into what porn they like.

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>>108779404
>muhhhh secuuuuuurityyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!
this is you in 30 years from now, glower

>>108779435
Counterpoint: social media as it exists today entirely fails at its supposed goal of keeping people in touch with friends and family, because they are built to serve endless ads, sponsored posts, reels, and bullshit over all else. How exactly does scrolling through 50 posts of retardmaxxing influencer slop to see one "copy/paste DON'T SHARE to tell Facebook/Meta they do not have permission to use your photos" post from your grandma help you stay connected with friends and family?

>>108778239
>hopefully an EU only one so no jeets and mutts
You'll just get a ton of muslims, which means if you post anything that goes against Islam and Muslim practices, you're getting arrested.

>>108778173
>socializing with family is immoral
You glow.

>>108779541
How is a phone call not socializing?

>>108779485
Perhaps I'm in the minority, but I have largely removed any slop from my Twitter's For You feed by just hitting "Do not show". I rely on the Following feed to keep up with what my friends are doing, since I only follow them. It works great in that regard, and it's fun seeing what they're up to and interacting with them. I guess occasionally I'm reminded of their worse self-control when they bring slop drama onto my feed but that's the exception, not the rule.

>>108779683
>using xitter
gross

>>108777978
You’ll wish you cared when the federal agent assigned to illegally surveilling you in private thinks you’re out of line.

>>108778134
How has that worked out? Most of your friends and family are atomized on 5 different platforms, and the ones you follow don't talk about friends or family, they use Facebook like we use 4chan.

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>>108777978
My family and friends aren't really using social media either. I use MMS or Signal to send pics of my kids to people. Most of my family is unironically on Signal these days, and it wasn't due to autism pushing from me, everyone just kinda started using it. Same goes for the in-laws, they were on it before I even met my wife. It has become pretty ubiquitous. So wtf do I even need things like zuccbook for? Nothing lol.

>>108777978
I don't use any social media. My family doesn't care and I just call them once every two weeks or so (unless something happened).

>>108779683
Visit them, let them show you photos in person, tell you stories. Theres no need to keep tabs on them. You either looking for connection or just comfort dopamine

I'm surprised we aren't seeing more privacy related scam products

>>108778239
>retarded euro begging for digital id

please putin kill them all

>>108781279
I don't live in the same country as all of them. I also don't have the time to visit the irl ones regularly. I spent most of my life online so I don't really see a difference between these. I hang out with them in person and have fun. I hang out with them online through text/call and have fun. I'm extremely introverted so having a choice like this is great. I also tend to keep a very tight social circle.

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/g/ isn't ready for this truke.

but /g/ (and most privacy obsessed people) have a skewed view of the internet.
the internet was never meant to be private or anonymous. your personal computer is.
expecting privacy online is like stepping outside your home and expecting people to not see you.
most privacy and anonymity tips are cope.

once you get enlightened you realize that you should have one domain name with your real name and one or two emails with your real name firstname@yourfullname.tld and that's it.
if you need privacy encrypt and sign your emails with pgp.
create as much social media accounts as you want with your real name and face.
your online identity should be your professional identity.

if you don't want people to know what you are doing. do it locally offline.
don't say anything stupid or edgy online. you will eventually regret saying in 10 years or less, unless you are a manchild.

you don't get privacy by sharing information privately.
you get privacy by not sharing information.

AI will deanonymize everyone by analyzing the way they write and comparing their posts across different platforms.

>>108781456
>>retarded euro begging for digital id
>please putin kill them all
it's just some faggot. normal europeans know better. and you, vatnigger, should be killed - see you in 720p

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>>108782013
>the internet was never meant to be private or anonymous. your personal computer is.
During the old internet, people basically didn't give a fuck if you knew their name and general location, IP, etc. I think people also forget that not too long ago, if you owned a landline phone, your name, phone number, and address would automatically be put in a phone book unless you intentionally opted out (which nobody even did).

>>108777978
>but what is the point of straining relationships with friends and family by completely refusing to use social media?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUezfuy8Qpc

cause free speech is more important than a roof over ones head

faith, family, friends

in that order

resolve the crisis of faith, than the crisis in family, than the crisis in community. otherwise your putting on someone elses mask before your own.

muh nazis bred and multiplied upon the german indifference, an indifference oh to enable through silver tongues of their propagandists armbanding the village square

friends will string cans together with wire to chat, they will make their own networks

>>108782197
this. the early internet was based. people didn't give a shit. they didn't even bother configuring their email servers to block open relaying. you could connect to any email server out there to relay your email to someone.

people mostly just acted in a civil manner online because that's what they would do irl. you wouldn't break into someone's house, you wouldn't steal someone's bike etc...

people treated the internet like the real world.

>>108782013
The internet was never meant to be schizo private, but it was also never meant to be the surveillance tool it became.
I don't want to hide from the FBI. I just want to not be a source of data for sociopaths to sell to each other.

>>108782388
>but it was also never meant to be the surveillance tool it became.

companies can track your stuff that you do online. there is nothing you can do about them. this is why you don't share more than you should online. you shouldn't post about your mental health issues online or whatever personal details you don't want to be monetized through pushing therapy ads to you.

or, use an adblocker. ads are sent to your machine afterall. you can filter out the traffic you don't like.

>>108782409
Keeping your personal info private while being a functioning adult with a real job is extremely hard. Half the time they don't even get your data legally, there's just no real consequences for it.

>>108779466
>literally who tombstone
do americans really?

>>108778172
>Just trust the government not top selectively enforce laws and abuse power.
The record of trusting corporations or government with ANY information shows only a fool would do so.

>>108777978
Typical.
Completely your fault tho, you should've thought about your threat model since the start and stocked to it. Now, you've made more changes than you needed and became fatigued once everything became too inconvenient.

>straining relationships with friends and family by completely refusing to use social media?
?
Just disable the tracking from Meta and don't post too much online, that's it.
I use discord, WhatsApp and instagram. To me, these apps are necessary to not kill my social life so I just keep them around and check them from time to time.

>>108779170
Yeah, fuck poor gullible 18 year olds who get pumped and dumped by international Jewish pedophiles!

>>108779145
I’m not sure if you’re European because WhatsApp is much bigger there than in America, but Instagram DMs are basically the go-to messaging option for a lot of Gen Z in America.

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>>108778172
Get a load cof this goy!

>>108779458
you are not that interesting

>>108777978
Lmao get the fuck out with that demoralizing psyop shit.
I ditched stock android for lineageos with microg (I'm aware this isn't entirely degoogled but it's a huge step in the right direction and I'm never logged in with any google account). Has been working just fine for me.
Started self hosting my own shit like dns, cloud storage and streaming services. Stopped using big tech for almost anything and it really wasn't that hard.
Tailscale VPN between my phone and home network was trivial to set up.
Completely ditched windows in favor of linux (fedora kde) and it's been an absolute breeze.
Social media is all fucking garbage. Only retained an inactive facebook profile to look more normie and linkedin as a digital CV, but I avoid visiting it as it gives me fucking cancer reading the retarded shit people post there.
Did switch to protonmail/simplelogin aliases for new stuff, but I'm still too entangled with my decades old hotmail emails, and to a lesser degree gmail, but I never used that all that much anyway.
The only big remaining issue is instant messaging, as I only got my mom and gf to message me on Signal, while the rest stubbornly remains on Whatsapp.

Can't say I'm experiencing any privacy fatigue. If anything I feel empowered and energized.

>>108777978
You can self-host whatsapp-matrix gateway to keep in touch with others while still using FOSS apps on your phone. You surely meant that and not infinite scrolling through facebook aislop.

>>108777978
Do you think that normies who doomscroll on social media, who consume the most recent twitter or facebook rage bait and mainstream media are happy?

Did you ever look into Social Media or turn on the TV / mainstream youtube channels, and realized just how pathetic the supervised and controlled cattle is?
They are pathetic and always sad. They never have any fun.

If you were privacy conscious before and didn't use normie media and now start to use it, i wish you good luck! You will go crazy and off yourself.

>>108784533
Same here. Except that i never tried to get normies off of WhatsApp. It's the one thing i just have to deal with. I probably just get a second phone for this at some point.
I do have my girlfriend on matrix, though. And she prefers it that way because she knows by the notification already whether it's me or someone unimportant WhatsApp group.

It still surprises me how easy it was to ditch Google.
Turns out that you really don't need them.
Even for video podcasts i am mostly away from youtube now, and i didn't even have to try. I just use RSS and over time i ended up with less and less youtube channels, because they all were garbage. When you get higher standards, you don't accept the youtube clickbait and filler bullshit anymore.

The quality of life drastically improves once you are off that ride. And goiong back is impossible. I would rather take a gun and blow my brain out than being part of normie-world.

>>108784733
You can use social media without doom scrolling for 12 hours a day. You guys are too fucking retarded to see any middle ground.

>>108784814
I don't even use Social Media, like Twitter for more then an hour when i decide to look around.

I have a account, but i don't even post, like, bookmark, nothing on Twitter.

>>108784814
I keep my personal use pretty minimal, but you really do see people just scrolling the feed(tm) perpetually. I don't get it myself, but people really are addicted to short form content.

>>108778338
This. Most 'friends' and 'family' will drag you down with them into the meat grinder because they don’t have the courage to endure slight inconveniences and easily succumb to social pressure. Literally cattle. They showed us their true character on the covid scamdemic. Fuck em.

>>108778239
kys

>>108782013
>AI will deanonymize everyone by analyzing the way they write and comparing their posts across different platforms.
that is fundamentally impossible because even if you manage to analyze writing styles to a degree, you cannot prove that it was the same person.
writing style isn't a fingerprint, it's fluid and one's grammar, style and wording may change over the years.

>>108786752
>writing style isn't a fingerprint
Neither is an IP address, but they have used it to sue people and put others in jail. The law doesn't give a single fuck about facts, evidence, the truth, logic, etc.

ITT: Luddites.
Whatever it is we're talking about is the future, okay?

>>108786781
sar it is getting late in India are you really still on the clock?

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>>108777978
Ever since the covid hoax I stopped interacting with the goyim cattle. I just look through them and pretend they don't exist. I don't even greet them or acknowledge their presence. I'm not staring either, I'm just looking straight through them as if they weren't there.
My life has significantly improved. I am at peace

>>108787149
You really sound like a sperg that was hard to deal with.
>I am above these cattle.
Okay... put the fries in the bag, nobody.

>>108778338
>>108786613
so how long have you been alone?

>>108782360
This is a made up retard midwit zoomer take, I grew up as the early internet was becoming a thing, and it was literally non-stop hammering into people of "The internet is not safe, do not put your personal info out there like a retard, treat literally everything with suspicion, use common fucking sense". It's an extremely recent phenomenon that people treat it as normal to just put their entire lives online tied to their real name on purpose.

>>108784490
I agree, so glowies should leave me the fuck alone.

>>108787245
>Okay... put the fries in the bag, nobody.
nta but white collar "real" work did way more to make me hate people than my mcjob.

>>108787305
6 years or something like that. And it's much better being alone. I don't have any false expectations for people anymore. I learnt that you are alone in this world and no one has your back when something goes wrong. No one gives a shit about me or you. So fuck everyone and act egotistically. 'People' aka cattle don't deserve my compassion neither yours.

>>108778072
Not him. There is email and SMS. You don't need the "platforms" of the ethnic oligarchs.

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>>108787305
"Alone" has such a negative connotation. Calling as it is, simply cutting off relationships in which neither party makes any (meaningful) effort to reach out to the other, is more accurate. Without the context of privacy, this would be more socially acceptable; "empowering". Mind you, I think it's worth noting that haven't supplemented real-world relationships with online ones; that would be counterproductive, and rather pathetic imo.

I haven't gone innawoods nor completely secluded myself, if that's what you're thinking.

I have nothing to hide, but will not humor attempts of passive surveillance. Principles aside, privacy is closely related to ones security these days, especially with data brokers consolidating anything they can find out about you and selling it to whoever's willing to pay.

>>108777978
if you gave up this easily you never really cared about it to begin with
>>108784473
why do jews always have such prominent adams apples?

>>108789185
>>108788207
How old are you and do you have children of your own?

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>>108778392
my mom is nice and she installed signal when I asked her, unlike my idiot friend "I don't want to have another app just to talk to you"
while having whatsapp, fb and ig installed

>>108777978
No matter what you do, you will never be fully anonymous in the internet. It's just impossible. If they want to find you, they will. Now of AI its even easier.

>>108777978
Buy an ad, Mark Zuckerberg, Satya Nutella, Sam Altman. Larry Elison, Alex Karp, whoever you are.

>>108777978
Glownigger thread. Try harder kike

>>108789357
Between 18 and 6 gorillion. I have lain with a multitude of women, so it can be assumed that I have a near equal amount of bastards. Why do you ask, Mr. Smith?

>>108784814
Then what's the point? What positive thing does facebook / twitter / tiktok give you?
If you aren't addicted to it, then cattle media is like smoking your first cigarette:
If you aren't used to it and not planing to get used to it, you just cough a lot and may vomit as well.

The cattle lives like shit.

Obvious bait thread

>this post was made by a jew

Bad regards, a jew

social media turns "regular" people into absolute fucking retards
>>108778109
this
>>108778203
and you sister couldn't bother texting this to you?

>>108791081
>twitter
*X

>>108791081
Twitter and Tiktok nothing, Facebook and Instagram can still be used to exclusively interact with people you know personally.

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>>108784533
isnt tailscale literally cloudjew slop?