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Why is this happening? I was just looking up f-droid and all this stuff popped up
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>>108779148
it only affects people who have play services installed not us
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this is the price you pay for giving indians access to smartphone technology. you cannot possibly give unenlightened societies instant access to technologies which were the result of centuries of science and engineering by European societies, and expect it to just be OK.

You can look at what giving the tractor to Africa did to europe, or what giving the automobile to south americans did in the United States.
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>>108779227
What did it do, retard ? You sound insecure. Can't you keep up with the third world or something ?
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>>108779148
>Why is this happening?
tl;dr? the jews.
slightly longer version? wef, technocracy and the epstein files.
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Mark my word: its going to be a nothingburger.
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>>108779620
It already is - literally just read the picture
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we dont allow this on computers, why is this allowed on cellphones, which are computers?
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>>108779639
Because our computers have a legacy stemming from the IBM PC 5150. A machine built from off-the-shelf parts with thorough documentation, all the way back in the 1980's.

Our current ATX ecosystem dates back to that era where the Gang of Nine created a backwards compatible EISA interface, where everyone mutually agreed to keeping the platform both open and backwards compatible. That's how 3dfx's efforts to create affordable 3D accelerators and Intel's efforts to create a modernized modular platform that is ATX eventually made the x86 PC the powerhouse that it is today.

Our computers stand on shoulders of giants. Smartphones were invented by Steve Jobs and were designed from the ground up to be as closed as possible, forever ruining the world.
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>Why is this happening?
The official reason? so your boomer grandma Mildred doesn't get her entire savings drained by Ranjeesh pretending to be elon musk
The actual reason? more control over what you install and making sure you don't bypass their kosher authorized methods to getting code to run on your (their) device
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>>108779658
This ironic argument doesn't even hold water these days when laptops are made of proprietary soldered components you can't even switch M2 drives on new laptops and this isn't even exclusively a macfag problem
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They could easily fix this by using AI to analyze voices and immediately hanging up if it detects an indian accent on the other end but they don't get more control over the goycattle that way.
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>>108779685
Even the first portable computers didn't have a single hardware standard like IBM-compatibles.
Yet even today, with those evil proprietary laptop motherboards, you still have modular RAM (with LPCAMM2 becoming the new modular standard in the future due to how far we're pushing DDR modules), you still have modular drives, modular WiFi cards (not universally, but these are still being made before you strawman again), but most importantly, the freedom to install whichever software that you want on your machines. Secure Boot is still an optional toggle that you can turn off to install whatever the fuck. All because IBM fucked up and released a computer that caused a chain reaction creating an open ecosystem that we still rely on today.

It's not an ironic argument, it's simply the truth. The reason we have the freedom to install software on x86-based machines is because of the IBM PC 5150.
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>>108779148
lmao this got nothing on ios
t.have an iphone
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>>108779148
LINEAGEOS + microG doesn't seem like it will be affected which means millions of normies will have a relatively simple way to bypass
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If the Pixel 11 series has a locked bootloader, I'll buy an iPhone.
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will this affect mihon? it's the only android app I care about
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>>108779971
Normies aren't going to be flashing ROMs on their phones, also almost all phones now have locked bootloaders.
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>>108779148
>Why is this happening
Googlel wants to become applel
>I was just looking up f-droid and all this stuff popped up
even next to the proposed solution you can still install stuff without any checks over abd (adb over the network is also a think and theoretically an android app from the same device can connect to that socket. A nothingburger at least for now until they lockdown who can build apps like applel
>>108779985
iphones are way worse in that regard, you have to pay applel to be allowed to build an you wrote
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>>108780479
If Google wants to become Apple, I'd rather use Apple products.
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>>108780542
fair
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>>108779971
Yeah bro "Normies" are going to unlock their bootloader and forgo google pay and a lot of play store app compatibility to flash a custom ROM to avoid waiting a whole 24 hours to install an apk
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>>108779985
Pixels will never have locked bootloader as most likely. The entire point of the pixel phone is to be the flagship standard for development. That's why they're so easy to unlock and root and have such a large ROM support base.
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>>108780213
This post is so sad
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>>108779148
not my problem
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>>108781411
You love posting this phone huh
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>>108781411
this is still google stock
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>>108779148
My phone is supported by LineageOS now. I'm going to root it and switch if/when they actually do this.
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https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48067119
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>>108783813
Nope. Works for me.
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>>108779148
epic games was staring them down on the app store monopoly. if they locked the doors down now it'd stave off the horde for longer
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Yeah so, what's the actual solution to this?
I wanted to install GrapheneOS a while back but found out i can't because i don't have a Google Pixel.
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>>108779148
>runs entirely through Google Play Services
Oh I don't have those. So a nothingburger.
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>>108780213
koreader is better anyway
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>>108779148
Android is so cucked now. Even developers themselves don't make or port custom ROMs on other phones. XDA is dead that not even jeets post anymore.
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>>108779148
Dullard here, will this affect emulation gaming?
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>>108779148
oh, so it was a psyop to get me to use Google Play Services all along. yeah, you lost me. it's your fault if you have that shit on your device in the first place.
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>>108784898
Pixels and iPhones are the only smartphones worth buying.
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>>108779148
>implying google will silently update my 2019 chinkphone
I wish, lol
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>>108785037
...i see
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>>108779658
>Smartphones were invented by Steve Jobs
Sure, he also invented electricity and the internet.
>and were designed from the ground up to be as closed as possible
This is ironically wrong too, Steve Jobs wanted the iPhone to be very open and let anybody write apps in html5, without paying anything. Other big guys at Apple decided otherwise.
I don't remember how open or close were the very first smartphones, but I seem to remember that anybody could write apps and you could just download them and install them.
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>>108785472
who invented the lg prada
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>>108784898
There's no solution because there's no problem. You just wait 24 hours before installing unsigned software. You can still install whatever you want, and flash custom ROMs and everything. People are just making a big hubbub because artistic people hate change.
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>>108779148
>Why is this happening?
What are you going to do, switch to applel?
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>>108785617
>blocks reCaptcha in you’re way unless you run google play store through official google software
nothin personnel, terrorist
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>>108785472
something tells me LG knew about the iPhone and came up with a shitty phone quickly just to beat Apple to market, if i remember correctly, the touchscreen on the Prada was really bad, it was resistive or something, very hard to press and register touches
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>>108785824
something tells me Apple knew about the LG Prada and came up with a shitty phone quickly just to desperately enter the market, if i remember correctly, the iPhone was really bad, literal currynigger shit, like all Apple products ever
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>>108785885
were you even alive back then? i played with the Prada in 2007 before iPhone was launched in Europe, and it was ass, even the iPaq or Sony Ericsson P Series were great and fast, no, the iPhone did not rip off anyone, it was a natural evolution of the Pocket PCs, besides Apple kinda came up with the touchscreen portable device idea in the 90s forgot its name
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>>108785901
were you even alive back then? i played with the iPhone in 2007 before iPhone was launched in Europe, and it was ass, even the iPaq or Sony Ericsson P Series were great and fast, the iPhone was the biggest heap of shit on the market, it was a blatant knockoff of everything else, Apple only knows how to make shitty knockoffs, it's why their tech is always years if not decades behind the rest of the industry
it literally took the curryniggers at Apple 2 decades to finally realize everyone else was on USB3.0 and copy that too
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>>108785925
i can't tell if you're schizophrenic or an AI
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>>108785819
Yeah, that's not what this thread is about.
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>>108785819
This has literally absolutely nothing to do with anything.
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>>108784945
XDA died because the mod team went full retard and locked it down to the point no one wanted to use it anymore, and all the devs moved to fucking Telegram. They still make custom ROMs, but these days it's mostly for chinese smart phones and what few phones still have unlockable bootloaders.
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>>108779658
Correct
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>>108779582
You stink of curry and failure
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>>108779148
So why can't we exactly fork, compile and ship our own Android OS on our phones without this BS? Thought Android was FOSS
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>>108779658
PCs being the way they are is also a bit of struck of luck of IBM wanting to push the product out the door and using off-the-shell parts while also being too trusting of the BIOS solution not being copied.
Really if both hadn't happened and IBM clones didn't take off, it's very possible we would have a PC market just like phones are nowadays, with manufacturers imposing their terms and everyone else having to accept it. Every PC could've been just like a MacOS.
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>>108786920
you'd still need a phone to put it on
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>>108779148
This is the reason i still keep my Oppo phone with android 13. Should i look into downgrading it even more? I have a newer phone just for bank and personal stuff, i can play with the old one as much as i want. I just want it to be able to run old games that aren't updated/in the play store anymore honestly (like canabalt....)
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>>108779148
To be honest, that's still way better than on iOS. I'd kill to have that kind of flow on iOS.
On iOS, you have to
- install some shady application like iLoader on your computer (can't do it with smartphone alone),
- you need to give that your apple username & password and confirmation code have it install SideStore on your device,
- then install a VPN and have it running 24/7 that allows SideStore to communicate to localhost since that's blocked on iOS by default and needed for signing
- you need to create a stupid shortcut workflow to re-sign regularly because all applications, including SideStore expire in 7 days and have to be refreshed, so no having your device turned off for that long or you need your computer again and reinstall all applications, potentially losing all your data

And sometimes (all the time), iOS updates, even minor ones, break the workaround flow SideStore uses so your apps will expire regardless and you can't use them on "your" device.
Also, you can only have three applications sideloaded at a time (2 effectively, since SideStore counts as one) and only sign 10 different applications per week (actually less than that, since each extension takes one slot).

This fucking sucks regardless but don't be mistaken: Moving to iOS is not the solution, you're even worse off. This isn't even mentioning how much less access to your device iOS apps have so many applications you take for granted on Android aren't possible (well, not for third party apps, Apple's own get special entitlements)
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>>108779971
Google is taking care of that. The new ReCaptcha doesn't work on degoogle'd Android devices because it relies on device attestation. Sorry, you can't use 80% of the web anymore unless you proof that you have a known not bad goy private key burned into your TPM. That's how Jewgle imagines the "free and open web".
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>>108787038
>that's still way better than on iOS
the bar is in hell
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>>108786920
>Why can't we just fork and compile proprietary frameworks with no source available? That is reliant on proprietary back-end infrastructure.
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>>108785617
So 24 hours for every single unsigned APK or only once?
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>>108788519
every single one every time
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>>108779658
this, our openness standards were pretty much grandfathered in. smartphones were a blank slate that allowed oems to be as jewish as they want to because the wrong people won ww2

>>108779971
most new phones don't even have unlockable bootloaders and the ecosystem relies on their jewish lockdown by design on so many levels you're pretty much a second class citizen if you don't pass the goyim integrity test. magisk et al played the cat and mouse game for a decade but the cat finally won. it's an immortal cyborg cat with billions to spend and lots of poached mouse engineers at his service. we lost and the only way out is to burn people alive
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>>108786020
qrd?
I thought XDA died because of phone prices going up even for supposedly cheap devices, bootloader unlocking and root becoming more difficult to do on a daily driver and other dark patterns from phone manufacturers. I didn't know the forum was mismanaged as well.
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>>108779192
And precisely how does one know if that *is* installed?

>Bought new phone
>Installed F-droid
>Deleted google play app using phone gui
>Disabled various other stuff using UAD-ng
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>>108779192
Android will detect lack of play service and basically lock you out
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I hate these motherfuckers so much.
This
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>>108779148
>do stuff on the list and its not a problem
>complain anyway
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>>108790219
stop lying.
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>>108788974
>>108788519
Not really though. If you install something like an alternative App Store, you just need to sign that and you're good to go.
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>>108790173
>How could somebody know if Google services are installed on a phone with a Google operating system.
>proceeds to outline something which is totally unrelated to anything.
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>>108782991
no it's even better, it's degoogled
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>>108787055
It will just be more complex retard, they still have to support other non android devices, the majority of web clients, too
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>>108788974
Cant you read OP? It clearls says 7 days or indefinitely
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If I jump through the entire circus routine will I still be able to install apps like vanced/revanced ?
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>>108779148
>It only exists as a blogpost and some mockups
lol
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>>108779148
>one time steps
>adb install works without doing the steps
its a nothing burger
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>>108791783
It's the same Linux age verification shit all over again.
If it's a nothing burger and if it's not important, why add it?
Why was it so important that they accepted tanking their own rep for it?

And no, grandma doesn't even know how to call a number from her contacts list that doesn't appear in the recent callers, let alone allowing Ranjesh Suckdeep to install apps remotely for her.
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>>108779582
Agreed on the question, disagree on the premise, so
>>108779227
what did they do? explain your reasoning.
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WE DEMAND HECKIKG APPS TO BE INSTALLED
>ok, here you go
NOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT, THIS IS GENOCIDE, THIS IS PALANTIRE!
So sick of these guys, just wait a day and you're good, not that crazy
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>I DIDN'T CONSENT TO THIS UPDATE!! STOP!!
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>>108785944

They're stupid either way. Capacitive touch screens were awful during the time. I don't even think today's idiot /g/ kids know that Android is store brand iOS. It began shortly after the launch of the iPhone. Without iOS it doesn't exist.

iPhone is Ford Model T, and Android is everything else. Society will remember Android stuff because it is all junk. They'll remember the iPhone.
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>>108792052
>>108792041
>>108791783
samefag lol
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>>108792067
Go back tranny
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>>108783813
the user palata is the most obvious jewish shill I've seen this year so far
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>>108792088
fuck off faggot kike
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>>108779148
What Google does here is actually a good thing for everyone who does install apps from outside the play store.

From a user perspective, I will only be able to install an apk that was signed by a certified developer, meaning I do not have to trust services like apkpure to not tinker with the apks, because if they do I will notice. Currently it's not really possible to check if the apk signature comes from the original developer, because many devs who put their apps in the play store do not publish their public signature key. This makes the installation of apks much more secure.

From a developer perspective, I won't need to register with Google, because I will still be able to install my app via adb. If you'd like to use an app from a dev who refuses to register with Google, then just use adb. As long as there is adb, the argument of "Google wants to lock down my phone" is null and void, and while I use and like f-droid, I think they spread misinformation here.
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>>108792067
you should work on your samefag detector lol



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