Everyone seems to have a homelab these days, people are increasingly self hosting vpn and email servers, self hosting password managers, making their own keyboards, running ai locally even tho even claude is free. Just what is going on with this new trend? Is it for pedos?
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>>108780202>Why is everyone suddenly homelabbing nowjew fatigue
>>108780202even normies won't pay the toll forever when 200 different companies want a fee they should be glad they're doing this their main resort is usually rioting
>>108780202imagine letting kikes and jeets be responsible for your data.
>>108780295Good point. We must consolidate those 200 companies into 2 big ones so they can charge for an "everything app" a price no small business will be able to compete with.
>>108780202>email serversboth of the free webmail services i use now require an alternate emal address for password recovery AND default to sending a otp code to the backup email rather than password to log on.you tell me that is not retarded. because it is.
>>108780202>my job got harder!!!
>>108780202i think they will just keep buying up storage to increase their cloud to the point they will just charge pennies for storage just to have your storage, sort of like power companies are selling you electricity where it makes no financial sense to install your own solar panels on your housei would not be surprised if buying storage becomes regulated and you need to explain why you need it, because it makes more sense to use cloudImagine driving an electric car in NYC is more expensive than driving a hybrid, you pay $10 to recharge it but then $100 for the delivery, clowns
What the hell do you mean claude is free?I just ordered 64 GB of RAM so I can run a second Qwen 3.6 35B on another machine. It works about as well or slightly better than anything I could get for free or nearly free, and unlike subscriptions it's unlimited.People are scared of scamflation and the war on general purpose computing.Homelabbing is a fake and gay btw, but self hosting is based. It's not a fucking lab, it's just a server you dork.
>>10878020210% genuine linux/unix power users, 90% config jockies who can’t hack it as actual SWE’s
>>108780322They have to offer storage in a way that the service itself handles the content and not just raw files, otherwise you can just encrypt everything and they can't see shit.If they offer infinite video storage for example if you just convert all your files to video they can just ban you for abuse, so you have to upload your actual unencrypted videos.
>>108780338this is how i encrypted all my files when i was using unlimited google storage around 1TB, but then they cucked it and held it hostage i had to call NYU and ask them to let me back in to get my files
>>108780326>you need to be a SWE to setup nfs share on a shitboxthis isn't 1996 grandpa, computers are not gatekept anymore.
>>108780202>everyonedo you have any data to back up this riculous claim of yours?
It's just great, I'd go as far as to say hosting a single searxng instance justifies having one. Pihole and local DNS stuff are also really cool to dive into and set up
>>108780324If you're doing self hosting properly with good isolation, availability, and backup infrastructure it should be looking more like a lab than just a single server.
>>108780628you misunderstand me, because you fall into the 90% bucket. yes, anyone can do it. that’s why you do it, instead of actually learning software engineering - an actual hard skill
>>108780202You can't trust literally any big business cloud provider. The biggest ones have had major data leaks within the last year. If you self-host, you're secure in the knowledge that you're a nobody.
>>108780202Turns out despite what I thought some people actually do respond to getting raped repeatedly. Just a few, far less than a single percent but still infinitely more than I expected.
>>108780202>everyone Yeah sure, just like how "everyone" is abandoning Windows in favour of Linux, right?It's a small group of people who get a lot of exposure, but it's far from common. Your average normie uses the ISP provided router and wouldn't be able to set up an old PC as a NAS.As for why people are doing it, it's because you can't trust commercial services, they are inherently untrustworthy.Corporations can cancel products/services at any time, they can and will change their terms and conditions unilaterally and of course they outright lie to your face all the time. Remember when Google gave you unlimited photo storage when you left reviews and became a "local guide" and when PLEX let you stream with high-quality outside of your network without paying? Just think, when was the last time a product or service got better over time? If you own the hardware and use FOSS alternatives at least you know what you're getting and for the most part the software gets better with updates.
>>108780840>everyone's goal is software engineering, there are no other jobs in computer related industriesyou're either 50 years old or indian.
>>108780820Multiple computers = lab?Servers = single computer?
>>108780202even normal human beings capable of operating at technological indifference levels beyond /g/'s comprehension have realized that google etc are evil
>>108780202if everyone did this, the world would be a safer place.
>>108780820Your bedroom is not a lab, shut the fuck. If you wanna call it a lab then you better have some beakers, nerd.Fucking nuclear boy wannabes.
>>108781119Does installing some breakers for a weed grow make the room a biolab?
>>108781119Dexter wannabes. The redheaded one.
>>108781119I have beakers in it, it holds my coffeeProblem?
I've got a dell thin pc I bought for 50 bucks and it runs my local services. Uses between 4 and 5w of power so that translates to around 80 cents of electricity per months.Much cheaper than I anticipated tho I'm worried about the dell power supply.
>>108781300>tho I'm worried about the dell power supply.Why?Did you drink the pcmr koolaid that says only certain PSU brands are quality?
>>108781311No but it's buzzing a lot like so I'm nervous it might just die randomly in the next 5 years.
>>108781300I use an FX 8150 because it also keeps my office warm
>>108781382>TDP: 125 W
>>108781401pretty mild these days
>>108780313that's what microjeet and apple (or apple and google) already are tho
In my case it's because being able to ask AI about how to do it and any issue that may arise has made the barrier to entry much lower.
It's been made really easy docker, proxmox, etc
>>108780897This is now the second time you have outed yourself as an intellectual deficient
>>108780202I'm a neet I can't pay for subscriptions so I've been saving and hosting whatever I can locally for a decade now.
>>108780338I mean that's totally doable, they just offer storage for like 4 types of data, videos, photos, documents and communications, this probably already cover the needs of most people.If you ask to store any other kind of data you get put on a list.
>>108781119https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_labThe defined community being me and anyone I let use the selfhosted services.>>108780917Assuming they work together to provide consistent service, yes. The lab isn't just the servers, its the service. A single unplugged server is still a server but not a lab, and a lab is usually comprised of many servers.
>>108780202Everyone who was on the internet before the normies and corpos took over and enshittified it with the introduction of the smartphone knows where the internet is heading. Everyone I know have curated their own media library over the last few years, the internet as we know it is on its last legs.
>>108780202Barrier for entry's getting lower with ecelebs making guides, NAS's being widely advertised, etc. and even normalfags are starting to get jewfatigue, though they don't know what it is yet, they know they're getting tired of platforms being retarded.
>>108780202download everything, why not?
>>108780202the barriers to entry are very low.software is easier to set up than ever and the used PC market is flooded with machines not supported by win11
>>108780202low barrier of entry, people tired of rugpulls, mini pcs being cheap and good enoughissa good time for it
All the nerds are either unemployed or stuck doing manual labour. Tinkering with shit gives them a sense of accomplishment and autonomy.
>>108780202considering getting myself a dell 3050 micro, you think this will be good enough for a homelab for vpn hostin and use as a seedbox?
Having your own personal netflix, cloud, spotify, email, voip, crypto nodes, llm machines all without anyone knowing it exists and without having to pay a single sub. then you add graphene os and you're no longer being watched.
>>108780202>Why is everyone suddenly homelabbing now?Because EVERYTHING is turning into a non-physical RENTAL service, with the rules, quality, and pricing getting worse, every passing month. For the past 15+ years.Only literal iPhone fanatic toddlers who were not even alive during the Web 1.0 and 2.0 could even try to villainize private IT ownership, backups and collections.
I dont self host my passwords or VPN, I use proton suite for all that because I cant rely on my on server to have 100% uptime due to where I live because I need it 100%.Though I do keep multiple backups of my password database, authenticator database on local storage, on multiple bluray discs(.zip encrypted archives of course) and then as a final failsafe I have paper copies with both QR and the plaintext passwords printed of my most important logins and also a QR code+plain text that contains my entire JSON text file authenticator backup.
>>108780202There are plenty of laptops with no tpm2.0 that are pretty capable but useless now for people with jobs going around. It's the best time ever to get into homelabbing.
>>108785611Also the fact chatgpt can just tell normies a step by step guide how to set their shit up and tailscale making your own services accessible from anywhere without even having to pay your ISP for a static IP makes it even easier for people.
>>108780202As enshittification of all things continues, you will have more and more people who get fed up and try to solve their own needs by themselves. What people now call "homelabbing" has evolved from people who just ran some computer as a server at home because it was a hobby in and of itself, but nowadays you may get people who don't get into self-hosting for the love of the game, but because they're actually interested in some end-result they can get from it.
>>108780202whats the alternative? holding all your data on your desktop/laptop/phone?a backup is nice stuff gets lost sometimes.i do have a ollama serving qwen/gemma models on my main desktop theyre very useful
>multi-billion dollar companies spending large sums of money to protect your data from attacks, and bitrot, provide instant high-speed access and migrating to better storage solutionsvs>your $150 aliexpress spinning brick HDD holding all your doujins and 120GiB dolphin porn vulnerable to theft and failureMan IDK, maybe get a job and touch some grass. You can get a whole TB of storage on iCloud for like $120 per year
>>108780820All you had to do was find a broken DVD/rw on ebay, dissassemble it and put your pi inside it so you can slot it into your ATX case. That probably fits inside a FDD case too.
>>108780840I'm not nor do I pretend to be a SWE, I'm hobbyist you fucking autist.I like tinkering with the computer and having a server provides an outlet for endless tinkering.
>>108780202>why is everyone homelabbingyou have been duped by the algorithmwhere I live most normies don't even know what Linux is and I live in western europe, I don't imagine it's different anywhere else
>>108780202As a recent convert. I think there are two main reasons. 1.) AI guidance has enabled laymen like me to accomplish things and build systems in a reasonable time frame that otherwise would take too long to learn or do.2.) The software ecosystem for self hosting has become much more robust and reliable. The work of many free software enthusiasts is finally coming to fruition and enabling mads adoption.Bonus Reasons. A.) A desire to be more free from malevolent influence and control. IE. ads and being tracked. B.) The human desire to build.I now run my own vaultwarden, nextcloud, immich, homeassistant, stirlingpdf, metube, jellyfin and arr stack which I share with friends and Family.I also have an automatic daily printout of my daily agenda and goals on my printer and write my reflections at the end of the day, which the system uses to create the next day's goals and focus.
>>108780326Sekret klub. No gurls allowed.>>108780644I think the number has 10x from 10years ago, but it is still a tiny fraction of the population.>>108783002True, got my optiplex 7060 with 32g ram for $311.>>108784365Get something that has PCIE slots so you can connect a SAS HBA and utilize enterprise drives. If your server does not have enough room on the inside you will need to get another box, power supply and on/off switch and connect the two with adapters and mini-sas cables.>>108786022That is fine. I like tinkering too. But with family life and work, I also need to get my end result quickly. AI helps me get more done.
I only started recently but it mildly scares me how dependent I am on tailacale to keep everything connected and running.
>>108780202Why would you trust some jew to handle your data? What are you, a fucking retarded faggot or something?
>>108780202it's a stupid hobby. tinker shit with no purpose.oh you host a server, amazing
>>108780322>buying storage becomes regulated and you need to explain why you need itI am pretty sure if you buy a 4+Tb drive you are immediately included in the "suspected pirate" list.
