>>108782308
I agree but I truly don't care.
Nothing I'm listening to deserves quality headphones.

The only real feature I'm missing is a direct cable that connects my head to my device, as it made it harder to steal my phone without me immediately realizing it.

>>108782347
>Nothing I'm listening to deserves quality headphones.
It's not even just about sound quality. You're spending more money on a system that is far more wasteful and complex, enabling more technical difficulties and requiring more troubleshooting, with worse latency meaning they're less usable for as many applications. They can ONLY be used for passive listening.
There's zero upside.

>>108782347
>direct cable that connects my head to my device
Just wait for neuralink.

>>108782308
Preach, brother. I can take my headphones, plug them into anything, and they Just Work. Meanwhile, everyone else goes through the daily Bluetooth humiliation ritual every time they want to use them with something else, and their batteries run out too.

>>108782308
Worth it.

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>>108782377
I'm not spending any real money on headphones.
A couple of year ago I wasted 1$ on a pair of fake earpods (pic related) straight from the cheapest chinese factory. Horrendous sound quality, never had the displeasure of trying anything worse than that, felt like underwater sounds.
I still used them for nearly two years until my gf tried them and immediately ordered something better on amazon.

I just don't care.

>>108782440
I mean mathematically it clearly is not.

>>108782452
Your reckless ewaste is contributing to the needless destruction of be environment. Please start caring.

>>108782468
I do waste sorting and recycling, it's not like I threw them out of the window like an indian.
I would still be using the red earrapepods if I didn't receive their much superior replacement as a surprise gift.

>>108782518
>I do waste sorting and recycling
Plastic recycling virtually doesn't exist in practice. There's a reason "reduce" and "reuse" come before "recycle." You still need to limit unnecessary usage of resources.
Tell your girlfriend to stop being mindless consumer niggercatte.

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>have wireless earbuds
>same button for powering on/off, pausing/resuming song or redialing
>literally shaky finger is the difference between turning earbuds off and making your boss's phone ring at 1 AM
People pay money for this shit.

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>>108782308
>managing a battery
here's how I handle a battery:
>drop onto charger on nightstand
that's it

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>>108782576
skill issue

>>108782576
>airpods not working correctly
>google how to perform a factory reset
>scramble to find a charger, plug the case in, put the airpods back in the case, open the case near the phone, trouble tap the front of the case until the led indicator on the front flashes red and then white
>tapping the living fuck outta them bitches, nothing happening
>firmware on the case is frozen, not responding at all
>more googling
>turns out I just have to wait until it either unfreezes or the batteries drain entirely
>these things are only a few months old
>i paid $300 for this
santania gif me please

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>>108782596
Not a problem on my Bose™

>>108782587
Cool. I just don't do that because I don't have to.
Also pic related charger costs almost as much as the AirPods themselves. You had to double the price of the product you bought just to address its biggest flaw. Lol. Lmao.

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>>108782587
>one problem with wireless earbuds that you have to remember to charge them
>"Hmmm. Yes, indeed, but I address this problem by simply remembering to charge them. :)"

>>108782611
>Remember
If charging your devices aren’t second nature by now in the past 20 years of tech (requiring zero thought), maybe you’re the problem and shouldn’t post selfies.

>>108782308
It's just situational. You don't need to make a binary choice and then defend it to the death.
At my desktop I use some nice big comfy headphones with a bulky studio-style coiled cable (DT770).
I'm writing this from a laptop with some basic wired earbuds plugged in.
When I run, I wear bluetooth earbuds paired to my watch. I don't need to charge them very often since I only use them for that.

>>108782587
very nice anon!
>[batteries begin to fail after a couple years rendering the whole system useless]
oh...

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>>108782596
Happily

>>108782626
Then you buy new ones and do a trade-in to get money off (giving you a saving that you can invest in your portfolio instead).
You're not poor, right?

>>108782308
>inconvenience of managing a battery
>have USB charging cable connected to monitor
>stick on headphones when not using them
>literally never ever run out of batteries
Infinitely more convenient than wireshit that doesn't let you walk around

The life is about trading one inconvenience for another you dumb frognigger.

>>108782308
>Battery runs out
>AAAAAAAA
>charge for 30 minutes
>lasts for another 6 hours
small tradeoff for not being tethered to your computer

>>108782630
You know you can put your phone in your pocket and walk around, right?

>>108782622
incredible cope anon.
>w-well sure but...I mean...as long as I remember to charge my airpods there won't be a problem...h-haha...
that's nice. personally I don't have to charge anything. everything just worx. it's simple.

>>108782308
>managing a battery or set of batteries
Oh the horror of having to charge for an hour once a month. THE HORROR!
Yes, I enjoy wired more when I'm mostly stationary at home
When I'm moving, wireless is less annoying than a dangling cable

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>>108782308
*places my TWE case on top of a wireless charging pad once every two months*
Wow, so difficult!

>>108782655
>c-cope
I don’t own AirPods, swing and a miss.
You “logic” applies to everything that uses a rechargeable battery by the way, so you better not be using anything that accepts rechargeable batteries, or even non-rechargeable, because you have to “remember”.
I await the details of how every single electronic in your home is plugged into the mains at all times.

>>108782628
>Then you buy new ones and do a trade-in to get money off (giving you a saving that you can invest in your portfolio instead).
A saving? You have to keep buying the same product every few years and you consider that a saving because you get a discount on them? With aux you can use the same headphones for decades and never have to buy a new pair if you take care of them. There's no benefit to Bluetooth and you've only been listing excuses for the drawbacks so far.

>>108782663
>it's the same release every year, nothing is newwww, improvements to drives, ANC, new bluetooth version etc don't exiiiiist
>I need to keep muh heccin 15 year old headphones despite new and better releases every few years because i'm an impoverished Global South resident that can't manage money
FTFY

>>108782640
>plug earbuds into phone
>earbuds battery literally never runs out, they just keep on going and going and going until I decide I'm done

>>108782676
Your phone needs charging.
That's rechargeable.
You have to remember to charge it.
You should be using a hifi plugged into the wall at all times instead, otherwise you're a hypocrite.

>>108782659
>>108782661
>Oh the horror of having to charge for an hour once a month.
>*places my TWE case on top of a wireless charging pad once every two months
If you listen to 8+ hours of music a day, or produce your own music, or use your headphones for work-related purposes, "once a month" becomes more like "once every 3 days and you'd still have to deal with all the other downsides associated with Bluetooth like latency and unnecessary cost. It's just worse for no reason.

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>heh, it's current year, get with the program fagg— ACK

>>108782690
> Your phone needs charging.
fortunately, unlike with wireless earbuds, I can simply plug it in and continue to use them without ever needing to stop and do something else for a minimum of 30 minutes so it's not a problem :)

>>108782713
>i never need to take my headphones out for anything ever
unemployed, built up earwax, ear infections, poor, impoverished, third world, mother's basement etc etc
pick any 3

>>108782674
>improvements to drive
Kinda useless considering that bluetooth is inherently lossy and can't get close to reference monitors ever after a decade lmao
>ANC
PNI with custom-molded IEMs can be about as effective as ANC.
>new bluetooth version
Lmao. Moar newer = moar gooder
>I need to keep muh heccin 15 year old headphones despite new and better releases every few years because i'm an impoverished Global South resident that can't manage money
I'm keeping my 15-year-old headphones because they're still objectively better than anything Bluetooth can offer even after all this time, and I feel no need to waste my money on shit that is worse simply because it's new. That alone doesn't justify a purchase.

>>108782702
>inb4 "that only happens like 10 times a year it's not even that big a deal"

>>108782736
now show me wire strangulations :)

>>108782718
>unemployed,
I use my headphones while I work
>built up earwax,
Q-tips
>ear infections,
I take them out when I sleep.
>poor, impoverished, third world, mother's basement etc etc
pick any 3
it's starting to feel like you only like bluetooth earbuds because of how (you think) they make you look and not because of how they work

>>108782697
If you produce music, there is literally no reason to use wireless since you're sitting at a work station.
That's like trying to argue that landline is superior to cellphones because secretaries don't have to charge it
>if you listen to music 8+ hours a day
Then your device battery life is likely about equal to your earphones so you might as well charge them together, or you're sitting at a computer and not moving which defeats the whole point of wireless and brings us back to the above point

You're complaining that a hammer is useless because it's bad at driving screws
>another day, another OP a faggot

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>>108782731
>Kinda useless considering that bluetooth is inherently lossy and can't get close to reference monitors ever after a decade lmao
pic related, didn't read the rest, you're 4 years minimum behind
>>108782747
>Q-tips
quite literally bad for you
>I take them out when I sleep.
Perfect time for charging then

No excuse

>>108782738
>"hey batteries can explode you know. you probably shouldn't strap them to your face."
>um? like? ok? what if i beat you to death with a hammer? lol same thing"
you might genuinely be retarded

>>108782762
False equivalence, argumentum ad absurdum, ad hominem.
Concession accepted.

>>108782713
as there have been approximately 0 phones released in the last 8 years with a 3.5mm jack, I disagree with this

>>108782773
Oh don't worry, he only had to remember his dongle!
Either that, or he is using some 10 year old poodroid kek

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Jesus christ I've have been using bluetooth headphones since the moto rokr and psp go days, how can anyone be THIS filtered by rechargable batteries in this day and age, I just plug my headphones once a week, the battery with normal usage last like 2 weeks

>>108782748
>If you produce music, there is literally no reason to use wireless since you're sitting at a work station.
So what you're saying is that wireless headphones have fewer applications and cannot be used in as many situations for as many purposes as wired headphones can? Like I said here >>108782377?
>That's like trying to argue that landline is superior to cellphones because secretaries don't have to charge it
Except not really because cellphones are clearly so much more convenient than landlines that their few downsides are far outshined by their advantages. A landline only works as long as you're in the same room with it, which you won't be for most of the day.
This doesn't apply to Bluetooth. The comparison isn't quite the same.
>Then your device battery life is likely about equal to your earphones so you might as well charge them together
"Might as well" doesn't work here when there's no reason to introduce multiple points of failure when you could just have the one. You could rely on multiple batteries to hold a charge in order for a system to work, or just the one. Why not minimize the odds of energy depletion?
>or you're sitting at a computer and not moving which defeats the whole point of wireless and brings us back to the above point
This is an argument in favor of wired.
>You're complaining that a hammer is useless because it's bad at driving screws
This is another terrible analogy because hammers and screwdrivers fundamentally do different things. Wireless headphones and wired headphones do the same thing, except one is just worse than the other.

>>108782756
>pic related,
Literally just supports what I said to you.

>>108782794
>No data is lost
this too hard for you?

>>108782770
your argument is fundamentally absurd because it compares accidents to murders. i'm mocking you because you're stupid.

>>108782773
literally false. there have been tons of phones with headphone jacks released in the last decade or so, just no iphones.

>>108782776
I don't use a dongle because guess why.
why are you so excited to not have options?

>>108782807
>wire strangulations can only happen in murder
>legislation requiring blind chains to be at a fixed length due to strangulation (2011/477/EU) exist because of murders and not because of accidents.
You quite literally live in a third world country and this confirms it.

>>108782308
based, I plug in and it just werks
I will never fall for the blueshit meme

>>108782816
those are blinds you fucking retard

>>108782827
>THOSE ARE BLINDS NO ONE HAS EVER BEEN STRANGLED BY WIRED HEADPHONES EVER I AM SO AUTISTIC THAT I CANT UNDERSTAND THE COMPARISON
keep jumping, you’ll reach someday

>>108782806
Qualcomm’s aptX Lossless is designed to deliver mathematically bit-for-bit, CD-quality (16-bit/44.1kHz) audio, but it is technically "lossless" only under ideal conditions. It operates as part of aptX Adaptive, which automatically drops from true lossless to lossy compression when Bluetooth bandwidth is congested.
You don't get to control it.
Auxiliary is always lossless by design and does this with zero latency.

Bluetooth is still just factually worse.

>>108782832
i'm the one reaching? name one (1) example of someone being accidentally strangled to death with a pair of headphones.

>>108782308
The reason the bluetoothfags are reacting with such volatility to this post is because they've invested so much of their ego into the prospect of having bought into "the future," or being at the vanguard of technological progress that when you point out that the innovations required to make Bluetooth headphones possible and feasible as a product don't necessarily translate directly to improved end user experience, they take it as a personal attack.
It's like how people get mad when you tell them they've fallen for a scam because they think you're calling them stupid even if you're not.

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>>108782308
modern tech is just reinventing the wheel over and over again while gaslighting you about how much better a square wheel is than a round one

>>108782308
the battery lasts like 30 hours

>>108782868
the not-battery lasts like ∞ hours

>>108782868
and yet I always have to recharge it an an extremely inconvenient moment

>>108782877
*at an

>>108782874
>left speaker goes out

>>108782308
>auxiliary headphones
holy fuck the retardation of "aux port" has evolved

>>108782626
When my wireless headphone batteries die, I can plug them into my PC or phone with a USB-C cable and they'll work exactly like wired headphones.

>>108782308
I never understood how Apple convinced so many people that taking away your option to use the headphones you already have in order to charge you hundreds for new headphones you wouldn't have needed if they hadn't done that could possibly be conceived as a good thing. The environmental impact alone worries me a lot. Earbuds used to comprise of a cable with magnets attached to the ends and that's about it. Maybe a microphone and volume buttons if they were fancy. Now there's six microphones, a processor, various radios, a touch sensor, a pressure sensor, a heart monitor, proximity sensors, lithium ion batteries, gyroscopes, accelerometers, etc and that's just the earbuds themselves. We haven't even gotten to the case. And it's all glued in place, you're going to have to throw the whole system away in a matter of years just to buy another and do it again.
Nearly everyone who was previously using the simple cables is now using that and the benefits are minimal. Shit is scary to think about.

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>>108782894
*pop*

>>108782906
in which case you'll effectively be using wired headphones you paid out the ass for

>>108782920
clever. how much are the replacement earbuds?

>>108782945
depends on which ones you buy. there are some you can buy for $20, others go for thousands.

>>108782920
which headphone are those?

>>108782966
CM-i3 or CM-i5 from Point Source Audio. many are saying they aren't particularly good though.

On mine each time either of the buds or the case drops a single percent I get a notification, so about 1 per second and there's no way to turn them off. And the quality sucks. They're nice for the gym but I use my wired ones for anything else

>>108782995
*one per minute

>>108782986
>$500 price tag
Yeahhhh no.
Cool concept though with the detachable replacement heads.

>>108783007
>Cool concept though with the detachable replacement heads.
That's not a new, unique thing. Most IEMs are detachable. Check out the IEM general in the catalog.

I don't care man
I have to buy headphones
They will be wireless
They will have bluetooth

>>108782697
>If you listen to 8+ hours of music a day
I don't
> produce your own music
I don't
>use your headphones for work-related purposes
I don't (I have a separate wired pair for that)

So bluetooth IEMs work pretty well for me.

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>>108783060
>So bluetooth IEMs work pretty well for me.
>(I have a separate wired pair for that)

>>108783048
I WILL deal with unnecessary expense and complexity, I WILL jump through troubleshooting and compatibility hoops that don't need to exist, I WILL scramble to find a charger when I realize my headphones are nearly dead, and I WILL fill every landfill in the state with disposable junk I never really needed.

>>108782756
>quite literally bad for you
then just use whatever method of ear cleaning is healthiest dipshit
>Perfect time for charging then
also a perfect time to not do shit and sleep soundly knowing that I don't need to worry about charging one more thing

>>108782308
>No, they're not. You've just traded the inconvenience of dealing with a cable for the worse inconvenience of managing a battery or set of batteries.
this is why you get a second set so you can use one set as another charges. you get a usb charger port plugged into your puter for more convivence/ease

>>108783194
you joke but i know at least 3 people who unironically did this

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>>108782308
I love being able to stand up from my computer to autistically dance to music or go take a piss. Wires feel like a leg chain. The battery on mine also lasts 24 hours so by the time I'm going to sleep I just put them to charge and theyre ready for a full day tomorrow.

>>108783280
>implying moving around while wearing headphones is a new thing
If you plug the headphones into your phone or perhaps a dedicated portable media player you can do all of that same stuff without having to worry about charging your headphones at all.

I have a wired pair and wireless pair
They have different uses

>>108783441
no retard, in my room, im using my pc and listening to music on it. im not gonna unplug my headphones into a phone just to do that while my pc is right there. wireless headphones are the obvious choice for anyone who isnt fucking autistic

>>108783449
Forgot to add that I also have speakers

>>108783096
I use the wireless ones at home or when I'm out and the wired pair ($10 chinese buds) is at the office.

>>108782308
used to believe this until I got a pair of wireless. never going back

>>108782308
>for the worse inconvenience of managing a battery
bro my earbuds charge in 1 hour and last for 12

>>108783469
Well that's just stupid and paying 3x the price for a product that isn't as good and is virtually disposable just for that one niche benefit is equally stupid.

>>108783526
Or you could just use one really good pair of wired headphones.

>>108783530
The entire reason I wrote this post is specifically because I've been using wireless almost exclusively for about 6 years now and I've hated it every step of the way.

>>108783555
Beside the point. What if you didn't have to charge them at all? What if they always worked no matter what? What if they had lossless audio quality and zero latency while also maintaining a lower price tag? What if they weren't excessively wasteful and impossible to repair?

the only time i wish i still had wired earbuds was when i went to the airport and forgot the battery was low the night before so the case died and the earbuds were just draining overnight while i was sleeping so by the time i woke up they were dead and i only realized this when i got to the airport so i had to run around looking for an outlet but they were all being hogged by a bunch of other faggots who wouldn't fucking share. otherwise it's been great

>>108782662
>I don’t own AirPods
semantics. doesn't matter. they're all functionally the same.
>You “logic” applies to everything that uses a rechargeable battery by the way
no?
actually no. sometimes implementing a battery does genuinely improve functionality. earbuds is not one of those situations.

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>>108782308
>just objectively worse
>in every conceivable way
>an objectively worse situation
>literally just a unilaterally worse

noone who talks like this deserves an opinion.

>>108783989
"I don't like thing and should not be forced to use it" would be more accurate

>>108783761
maybe stop buying garbage that breaks down? ive had mine for 2 years and they work just fine. its not just a niche its an actual use because i can workout, do my homework at another table, clean my room etc while wearing them. the real niche is being a fat ass that doesnt get up from his chair and thus doesnt need to be wireless

>>108782308
>auxiliary headphones
why not primary headphones

>>108784059
nobody is forcing anyone to use it
there are still good phones and laptops that use 3.5mm
stop being retarded and shop for better shit

>>108784134
>maybe stop buying garbage that breaks down?
Lithium ion battery cells can literally only rapidly degrade by their very nature. They age like milk.
>its not just a niche its an actual use because i can workout, do my homework at another table, clean my room etc while wearing them.
You can do that with wired earbuds too if you'd just stop refusing to use your desktop like an iPod.

>>108784138
>nobody is forcing anyone to use it
Bullshit. There's obviously been a massive coordinated push toward Bluetooth by the entire tech industry, particularly in the sector of smartphones, within the last decade and this can't be easily denied. Headphone jacks used to be ubiquitous and now if you want a smartphone that contains one and isn't otherwise a piece of shit your options are dwindling. The only reason this happened was because Apple wanted to sell Bluetooth headphones and boost their sales as much as they could in 2016. The consumer has not actually benefited from this in any way. It's an exclusively cynical marketing maneuver conducted by the richest company on Earth and most other companies have followed suit because of how profitable it is to do so. The only reason laptops still have them is because it's harder to lie about how you totally couldn't manage to fit enough space for a headphone jack on a computer that big.
And even then, Apple did it with the iPads.
The presence of a headphone jack would not stop you from using Bluetooth earbuds if you so chose. The only difference is that the choice is very heavily, artificially weighted in favor of the more profitable option for the company who makes the device, and you're defending the companies that do this shit to you because you're a corporate cocksucking whore.

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>>108784134
>do my homework and clean my room
nigga are you twelve?

>>108784465
did you stop doing homework after 12 anon

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>>108782308
I just swap the battery out with the one that's been charging.

>>108782308
>>but they're so convenient!
>No, they're not
But they are. I don't care about le audio quality while I'm busy working outside. I care about wires getting in my way

>>108783280
A 10ft extender solves this problem.

>>108782593
>I listen to music using my touch screen
Words of the mentally insane.

>>108785338
>But they are. I don't care about le audio quality while I'm busy working outside.
The post doesn't mention audio quality although Bluetooth is also unsurprisingly worse in that regard as well.
They're not more convenient because there are more situations wherein you wouldn't be able to use them at all when you need to due to the fact that they need to be charged. They cost more, they involve more complex mechanics that malfunction more often, they have a significantly worse environmental impact and they offer no clear advantages over their wired alternatives.

>>108785121
>I just manage two batteries instead of one :)

>>108782661
>Niche industry where companies jack up prices like no tomorrow to cover development cost
there's a lot of shit wrong with this jaypegg but this ones especially funny considering the original airpods cost $159, were infamously uncomfortable, didn't even have passive isolation and sounded worse than the free earbuds that came in the box with whatever phone you used them with. the only reason they cost that much was because of the $$$ they spent developing them

>>108782308
besides the (in)convienice.
bluetooth keyboard to bluetooth earpods is a 2500x increase in radiation. always use cables when you can.

>>108787515
non-ionizing radiation. harmless.

>>108787522
yeah right.

>>108787631
sound itself is a form of radiation. not all radiation is harmful. airpods are by far the most popular headphones on earth now and have been for about a decade, we would've seen diagnoses of glioblastoma multiforme rising alongside the popularity of bluetooth earbuds at a pace that correlates with their proliferation, but we haven't. because they don't actually cause cancer.

>>108787357
>battery in the headphone runs out
>swap it with the battery that's charged in the receiver dock
>process takes all of 6 seconds
>be on my merry way for the next few days
At this point what's the difference between managing a set of batteries that will always be in one of two places versus managing a cable that could dangle anywhere over the course of usage?

>>108787904
>sound itself is a form of radiation
retard

>>108788747
it's literally called acoustic radiation you faggot

>>108788747
What do you think radiation even is? Cancer waves that give you cancer?

>>108788664
>process takes all of 6 seconds
Again, beside the point. I've noticed that every "defense" of batteries is something along the lines of "It's not THAT big of an inconvenience," which sidesteps the fact that it is still an inconvenience which is unnecessary and doesn't really offer any tangible benefits.
>At this point what's the difference between managing a set of batteries that will always be in one of two places versus managing a cable that could dangle anywhere over the course of usage?
The batteries require active maintenance that the cable doesn't need. The cable also eliminates latency, improves sound quality and provides greater reliability and ease of use. The batteries eliminate the cable but at the cost of so many other added complications that it isn't really worth it anymore.

>>108788987
photons, which sound isn't

>>108789047
Incorrect. Radiation is the emission or transmission of energy in the form of waves or particles through space or a material medium. Electromagnetic radiation is a kind of radiation but not all kinds of radiation are electromagnetic.

>>108782308
You skipped the part where we have a limited number of radio frequencies, and your earbuds are in a constant knife fight against the other earbuds, and phones, and routers, and computers and non-real pigeons and microchips under the skin and nintendo DSs and such.

>>108788979
>>108788987
>>108789069
Nitpicking semantics, you know the comparison made in >>108787904 is beyond retarded

>>108789194
>n-no you're just wrong and you know it!!!!!! you just are!
lmao cope

I love my wireless porta pro

>>108789194
You could just say you didn't really know what radiation was instead of getting all egotistical and defensive about it. Nobody would think less of you for it. "Oh. Oops lol" would've been less embarrassing.

>>108789194
how is pointing out that radiation can only consist of photons not nitpicking but saying that's not true is?

>>108789032
>The batteries require active maintenance that the cable doesn't need.
The cable has its own, arguably more proactive maintenance it requires at all times (not getting it tangled/caught under wheels, etc). The headphones I have contain very little latency, arguably comparible with wired (I measured using Rhythm Heaven Studio, both wired and wireless RF is like 40ms). I think you're entirely valid to evaluate your own situation and determine that cabled headphones are the right choice for you, just as I have made a similar evaluation and have found my setup works for me.

>>108782308
The only reason I still have wired headphones is cause my wireless stuff can't last for over 12 hours without running out of power.

>>108791195
>The cable has its own, arguably more proactive maintenance it requires at all times (not getting it tangled/caught under wheels, etc).
This one feels like a stretch. The most maintenance a cable requires is the effort put into actively ignoring it. With batteries there's a chance, however low, that the whole device is rendered unusable because of your maintenance oversights. Cables are just mildly annoying and even then they're pretty manageable and worth the one minor inconvenience considering all of their benefits.
>The headphones I have contain very little latency, arguably comparible with wired (I measured using Rhythm Heaven Studio, both wired and wireless RF is like 40ms).
Very interesting results but it begs the question of how you tested that latency because 40ms for a cable is very high, suspiciously so, and this suggests some sort of flaw with the testing method. Latency with cabled headphones should be well under a millisecond. Not that it matters at this point anyway because 40ms is still very low, but still, a cable approaches zero latency where Bluetooth can't.
Anyway, that's RF and not Bluetooth which is what I originally was talking about. Still, functionally they're pretty much the same and the rest of Bluetooth's shortcomings carry over as well.
>I think you're entirely valid to evaluate your own situation and determine that cabled headphones are the right choice for you, just as I have made a similar evaluation and have found my setup works for me.
I feel this way about the inverse. Personally I think Bluetooth headphones are worse than aux, but I don't think they should be banned or anything and I think anyone who wants them should choose them.
But that's the problem; choice. The problem is that Apple, Google, Samsung and most other OEMs that aren't Sony seem to disagree with the both of us. They seem to think they have the answer, and the answer is Bluetooth despite its compromises. I don't like that.

When I move the earpads a little over my head my Shure Srh840A gets very quiet on the right ear almost mute and I have to move it back a little to fix it do I have a fucked cable inside? About to die soon? I don't know if soldering is even an option. They are barely 2 years old just got out of warranty those fuckers.