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>>108783886Cope, Ai is here to stay
>>108783892Yeah, image generation and 7B models for spamming. Maybe some hobbyists will get their hands on Blackwells when they're being sold out, and run bigger models at home, maybe some of the big players today would even open source their project when they inevitably close shop.
>>108783886Moore's Law has absolutely mind fucked an entire generation of investors into thinking that every single form of tech has exponential growth.
>>108783886KEK
>>108783998your pic related is talking about a computation lab job btw, not an average office joe job.
>>108783886Pozzing the debate with "muh arts" was a work of genius, there have been more tech workers laid off permanently by now due to AI than there are employed artists in total, and most tech people are still enthusiastic about if not actively developing their own impending obsolescence because in their mind it's revenge on the people in humanities and arts who got laid in college.
>>108784092cope
>>108783892I think that's what OP is trying to say although it's hard to tell.
>>108784086tbf, investors are retarded by default and will fall for anything that promises returns , no matter how much that goes against common sense. They are the people that believe in infinite growth .
>>108783886I don't get this meme wasn't he actually right in the show and they just made him look crazy?
>>108784199>be ai company>rely on subscriptions>get everyone fired so they can't pay for your subscriptionsWhat did they mean by this?
>>108784205You realize money is fake, right? Their power will be valuable whether or not a bank writes in some extra zeroes for the year.
>>108784204Yes, and it's true for what he's saying about AI in the meme too. It's basically the Lisa blackboard meme where you say your hot take but it's "money" because it references a popular show.
>>108784194Yea but this is fundamentally so abstracted but it can't even be properly analyzed in the first place.Like if the average human let's say could bench press 200 lb, and you said hey we have a machine that can do 1,000 times better than that, we know what that would look like we can imagine some kind of device that has 200,000 lb of capacity and the kinds of ability and uses, and limits it would have.But now we're trying to bring the same type of scaling to the concept of IQ. We might be able to imagine how it would behave if it had like a 120 IQ or even a 150. What would it look like if an AI had a 100,000 IQ? We literally don't have the ability to even conceptualize what that might look like. And then it's compounded with the idea that once you've been at all of our best knowledge and you want it to keep growing and becoming "smarter" or at least more utilitarian, the only real option you have is to start feeding it more and more dubious data sets.
>>108784213>money is fakethen what differentiates "them" from everyone else
>>108784215>moneyfunny* autocorrect
>>108784213>Their power will be valuableno it won't. being able to generate slop apps and images is not power unless you can sell it to someone
>>108784226In a post-labor economy their value will be provided by the power of replacing your labor. They will be the de facto option for all labor. You have nothing to offer. Maybe you can sell your food tokens by prostituting yourself, but you realistically will never be able to gain wealth ever again.
>>108784226it’s a tool. if it can only generate slops for you then it says more about you than AI
>>108784234Exactly. I have built multiple apps that I've received 7 figure offers on
>>108784226Yea, this fucking AI companies are setting up nuclear power plants so that weebs can make AI art of big tiddy cat girls and grandma can have it re-invent the recipe for chocolate chip cookies for the 100,000th time today.Wait until these companies stop selling their tokens at a loss, there's not going to be a lot of avenues for profitability and all of these giant data centers are going to go bust overnight.
>>108784204Yes, Chuck is accusing Jimmy of all these crazy things, and we as the viewers know he's telling the truth, but Chuck has reached his fucking limit and the way he's saying it makes him sound completely unhinged. On top of that, Jimmy has just proven in front of everybody that Chuck has a made-up illness that's all in his head.
>>108784263>Chuck has reached his fucking limit
>>108783886>AI is super smart>hey AI why does these printers appear in UWP apps>uhm you have to remove themNo this is falseTried the same question with multiple models always the same>uhm remove themFor those playing at home the answer is WSD is on those printers are advertising themselves and windows happily shows them but only in UWP apps. Other apps only show installed printers.Dumb fucking models.
>>108784236You don't need AI to scam people.Did you think Sammy Altman wrote his scam app back in the day with AI? Shit didn't exist then he just lied and made shit up.>oh yeah I have millions of the customers bro
>>108784380If you lie about your userbase you'll just get sued for everything. That's the oldest trick in the book
>>108783998That guy is lying. Yesterday copilot did 2 weeks of work in 20 minutes. It costed 2-3 dollars.
>>108785540It costed 2-3 dollars because the companies sell tokens at a massive loss as an attempt to force mass adoption. OpenAI for example is somewhere in the order of tens of billions in the red. With break-even pricing it would be, dare I say, a few orders of magnitude more expensiveAnd I sincerely doubt it was anywhere close to 2 weeks' worth of work unless we're talking literal straight-out-of-React-bootcamp junior man hours
>>108786173If it gets 10 times more expensive its still cheap as fuck. Also open source models are almost as good as the closed source ones so if they raise prices too much people will buy their own hardware and run models locally.
>>108783998>two more weeks and ai will disappearKeep seething, coping and crying. You are a transgender code
>>108784242the kikes don't need you or your grandma anymore
>>108784219They hold the means of production, advanced technology and connections with politicians.Everyone else struggles to buy cans of beans.
sigh, all of this ai discussion is so american coded.
>>108783892and we’ve allowed only a small number of extremely rich white men to control it lol
Simply scaling the model was supposed to bring AGI. But forget we ever said that, thinking models are the hottest new thing. We'll just generate millions of tokens in inference time and that will bring us AGI!
>>108786418you expected anything else?
>>108787062>allowedwho the fuck are you to decide what's allowed? who do you think you are?
>>108784216>>108784194>people who are orders of magnitude wealthier than me are also dumber than mekek
>>108784150it's not a work of genius, it's applied tribalism. They couldn't give a single fuck if generations of engineers are fired (or worse), but if random xitter crappy artists now makes $0 instead of $5 a month for the crappy doodles the world is ending. the venn diagram of the certain politics anti ai positions is... well.... suspect.
>>108785540>copilotno wonder people think AI is shit. Big money gives you access to big compute. Big compute gives you power not seen in recent history. You saw Mozilla's vulnerability report with Mythos right?
>>108787662>generations of engineers are firedthat isn't actually happening fyi, the layoffs are happening for mundane accounting/economics reasons. CEOs are lying about AI being the reason because it looks better and doesn't hurt their stonks like admitting they're just doing belt tightening would.No doubt there'll be real AI layoffs happening eventually but yeah, atm it's just lies.
>>108787649>If you win the lottery you're smarter than everybody elseRetards actually think this way huh?
>>108787715>lottery lmao the mental gymnastics you people need to make kek
>>108787701I'm saying they'd be happy if that happened. i know that isn't happening, if anything there is very small uptick in hiring. Still small though but that was because both corpos and gov abused the money printer during covid and hired like insane people.
>>108787649for every high IQ billionaire there are a thousand MBA millionaires who make money by gambling and having slightly above average social skills
>>108787746absolutely. but let's talk about acutal king makers and market moves, do you honestly think the average /g/ay is smarter than them?
>>108784216Analogies are retarded and gayIt takes an exponential amount of representative data to account for linearly increasing complexity, along with the hardware to process it. There is literally no way around this in automation. LLMs as a structure do not support increasing complexity, besides not having the resources / compute power. Everything surrounding "AI" the last half a decade has been completely retarded.>not to mention model-bias that no one talks about because you can just hide it over and over and pretend it's more advanced
>>108785540>>108787674>there was totally all these bugs that got fixedLike?
>>108784086>You are here
>>108784204In the original show he was right about the address but wrong about basically everything else (aka the seething meltdown that caused him to lose all credibility) which is still fitting considering the insane amount of either lies or self delusion going on with pro and anti AI shilling.
>>108789312nah, we're most likely higher up. AI corps are doing their IPO's already, it's a strong sign we're nearing the late stage of this tech. The grift is over.
>>108783892>>108784160Arrest, the ai bubble will pop anytime, once the solar the storm comes out we cannot do anything.
>>108787649a lot of those investors WERE orders of magnitudes wealthier than me until they got wiped out in 2008
>>108789471Microsoft IPO'd 22 years before their arguable peak of windows 7
>>108786418boomers are obsessed with it. it's never leaving the public zeitgeist of /g/ as long as people's grandpas come fresh from facebook to tell us LOOK LOOK GUY STHE COMPUTER IS TALKIN' THE POOTER IS TALKIN IT'S JUST LIKE STAR WARS
>>108789765their peak was Windows xp, win 7 was just worse
>>108789312i doubt you're younger than 50, go back to falling for telephone scams
AI already has its place. It tells the youtubers what to say word for word, and instead of watching the video you just have AI summarize it.
>>108789799In either case still more than a decade out. Throughout the 2000s people were complaining about OS research being dead everywhere but microsoft.
>>108789811eh, not sure how apt is this comparison. the market and the reasons for microsoft success are too different. How cool new GUI improvements are isn't even the point, they were just the first ones to grab the market.
Gemma 4 saved localgen btw
>>108790381How much do I need to spend on hardware to get something useful?
>>108787129given my macro understanding of ai, i know this shit will never work. its not just about feasability, though its absolutely unfeasable. I dont think the engineers will ever course correct. though they dont need anything more to unleash killbots anyway
Reminder that three years ago Sam Altman told investors that he had no idea how to make profit off ChatGPT and he was simply going to ask it how to make profit once he creates AGI.I'm completely serious and so was he.
>>108784086>infinite growth on a planet with finite resources
