>grifters are meeting an end
and this is a bad thing why?

>>108785847
sometimes you fly too close to the sun in pursuit of technological progress

>be scientist
>finish secret project
>no longer needed, but know too much
>disposed of
we dont need Sherlock Holmes to solve this one

>>108785877
You need to be a crime fiction writer though.

>Someone
America is killing Chinese eggheads.
China is killing Americas eggheads.

I hate this news cycle sort of thing. They're dieing at the same rate they've always died, but if you swing a media spotlight onto something, you start seeing more weird stuff because there's always weird stuff going on everywhere.
Remember that bath salts flesh eating zombies thing? Did we all start doing bath salts and turn into zombies? No? Same amount of people do fucked up shit like that, or die in weird ways like this, but it looks like more or less than it is depending on whether it's in the news. We're used to smaller communities, so when we hear about 15 (!) people dieing, that seems like a catastrophe level, village-ending event, but globally, it is nothing.
There are so many scientists and engineers. They die just like normal people and normal people die weird deaths too.

>>108785847
What was their expertise?

>>108785877
Imagine how much harder this would make carrying out your secret projects. The onboarding alone would be insane. You'd be taking so long getting people up to speed that they'd die of old age before you got anything done. One secret project might have ended, but there is pretty much always another related secret project after that. It's not a process where you finish the work and then just stop.
No, the secret project method is pretty hashed out already. In depth privacy invading background check, high incentive to stay in the job (i.e. money), and if they talk, they go to prison, possibly executed depending on severity.
It's enough stick and carrot as is, and killing your scientists is just stupid because then you need to train more scientists, but oops, you already killed all the scientists who could have trained them.

>>108785847
Rothchilds do this for centuries. It has to do something with patents.
Consult Wikipedia for more info... wait, not much info there about it anymore.

>>108785995
>You can't make an omelette without breaking eggs
>The deep state, probably

>>108785847
>chinese scientists disappearing
yea if you lead an improtant project and fail you get fucking shot, like the guy who was leading the f35 ripoff
it’s not exactly a mystery what happens

>>108786662
Why on earth would you get shot? They'd just fire you, or more likely, put you to use elsewhere.
These guys didn't even get shot.

>>108786087
nta but i was thinking along the lines of a project that drastically changed classification and any participant had to be dealt with. take for example witnessing a massive discovery. the missing ones effectively turned themselves in (the ones that left all their shit at home and obviously planned around their departure).

>>108787272
and, to be clear, i don't think these missing ones are necessarily dead. i'm imagining a quasi-witness protection program and continuing life and work in private facilities.

they don't want anyone cracking fusion before they do

>>108787272
It's usually pretty rote what you're going to get out of a study. You come into it asking "If I do X, does Y happen?" and the answer you get out is typically limited to "Yes" or "No" in any useful way. If it's "Yes", that's just your hypothesis, which you already knew when you joined the project, and if it's "No", then it just didn't work, probably nothing happened. If it has more scope than that, you already had to get clearance. The barrier for when you need clearance is actually pretty low as well. It's quite common to need the first tier of clearance simply to enter the site for anything the government is cagey about, let alone actually be told anything you couldn't find online.
Almost all research just doesn't lead to world-changing discoveries anyway. Not even secret research where the government is a partner. It's just secret because it either has IP value (economic or otherwise), or because revealing how it works might reveal some way to defeat it (so essentially, security by obscurity) which is a threat to national security.
>>108787315
It's a cool plotline (they do it well in Deus Ex: Human Revolution) but in reality it is cheaper and easier to give you golden handcuffs if that's really something they cared about. The PR of that is much better and easier to explain too.
The stick approach is prison, and the carrot approach is high pay.

>>108787257
>Why on earth would you get shot?
Because if you pretend to be a hotshot pulling miracles out of your ass so the gubmint gives you a blank check and 4 years later you have fuck all to show for the mountain of resources that could be spent elsewhere getting fired isn’t a sufficient punishment.
idk about the other guys but the f35 clone project lead got capped

>>108787605
At most they would send you to prison, and why not? If you broke contract, it's a recourse commonly accepted as OK for them to use.
What do they have to gain from shooting you over sending you to prison?
Shooting you: they have to be worried about someone finding out and decreasing trust in the state basically forever.
Prison: they can be completely open about it and you get just as badly punished, made just as ineffective against them. They can put you in the worst prison in the country and they're still within commonly accepted morality. Even if you disagree that it is not as bad of a punishment as dying, what do they have to gain from punishment? There is enough money and there are enough people moving around here that personal correction is meaningless. It's more effective to deal with it easily and move on. There's no "final judgment" they need to make in a moral sense, and it wouldn't help future projects if they made that judgment anyway.
If you're thinking that they won't do prison because it's expensive:
1. The amounts of money at stake here are high, to the point where this would not matter.
2. It is not cheap to pull off an extrajudicial killing and keep it covered up.
It just doesn't make sense for them to do that. They have so much to lose and so little to gain. They already have violent recourse to punish people in that situation. It's a guy with a gun telling you to get enter the prison and stay there.

>>108785877
>secret project
>women
lmao. the fact that women are involved at all means those are real suicides or accidents
now stop falling for confirmation bias

>>108787648
Bruh, China is not America or the West. They're bug people, they don't value human life the way that Western states do (even performatively). China's entire history can adequately be summed up as 'Their enemy lives in the mirror'. They have spent their entire time as a sovereign state for literal centuries reconquering, purging, and grinding their own people under their booted heels because the biggest threat to China as a state is always Chinese people having any agency or power. These people have agency and power, they represent a threat, and the Chinese government is ACK-ing them. Simple as.

>>108787653
women with functioning brains are very rare but they do exist. mostly in biology

>>108787648
>Shooting you: they have to be worried about someone finding out and decreasing trust in the state basically forever.
chinese gubmint vanishes thousands of people every year, and forcibly "reeducates" entire groups that are inconvenient to The Party.
they’re not worried lol

>>108787749
>>108787845
We're not just talking about the Chinese though. The headline is that American and Chinese scientists are dying. The anon I am replying to is referring to an American project.

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"newsweek", leftier than left

>>108787870
>The anon I am replying to is referring to an American project
… the chinese attempt at cloning f35 is an american project?
fuck I can’t keep up with the modern schizo psyops abymore

>>108785847
Any scientist that discovers AI or tech the will lead to many people discovering AI activates the undetectable kill bots in their bloodstream by the AI that currently controls the wor

>>108788208
cheap keyboard dude, gear up, hehehe

>>108788304
What sort of drugs are needed to reach that level of schizo? Is it something you know about, or is it more of a question for >>>/x/?

>>108788208
Oh my bad. I misread what he was talking about there.
In that case, please take what I said to apply firmly only to Western projects like the American scientist(s) alluded to in the OP as if they are dieing as part of some broader pattern of global scientist killings, but also that I think a lot of the incentives apply to the Chinese as well, though perhaps not to the same degree.
Imprisoning one guy is still cheaper and easier than re-educating a group of people, because I mean think about it, you have to imprison all those people your re-educating anyway. Why not imprison just the one guy?
I also think they would at least make some attempt at covering it up. Even places like Saudi Arabia do that.

>>108788426
good keyboards are split into left and right palms, missing "b" for "n" means its mono plank, cheap stuff (in sense of technology, not price)

>>108787648
In China there are sometimes cases of bank workers getting caught embezzling funds. They get the death penalty. You can at least expect a similar punishment for someone who embezzles funds from the government as a conman.
>>108787870
Chinese scientists failed to deliver or pissed off the wrong politician, and American scientists said/did something vaguely antisemitic.

I'm honestly surprised no one has mentioned the Israelis up to this point itt. They love merking scientists to cripple other nation's technological progress, and so that their people can be better represented come time to hand out awards.