>still using debian after last month's events
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>>108786974What happened last month? I am planning to install debian but I am disgusted by the tranny stuff I see everywhere around it.
>>108786974Yes. It has plenty of flaws, but every other distribution is overall worse.
>>108787008A Jeeta wormed her way into leadership and is planning to incorporate Debian Foundation in the US and sell out to trans defense contractors.
>>108787041>and is planning to incorporate Debian Foundation in the USLink to actual evidence of this?
>>108786992ubuntu is miles ahead of debian. it has its own special packages and its own kernel and customizations. debian testing is such a poorly designed distro you might be CVE'd for months before the shit in unstable goes through the 2 week phase
>>108787020Fedora is literally perfect in every single way.
>>108787041Nobody gives a fuck about the politics of debian, the role is ceremonial. Complete nothing-burger. She's just the whipping boy for when something goes wrong, so they have someone they can flog. She controls Debian in the same way King Charlies controls Britain.
>>108787041>wormed her way into leadershipIs this how the kids say "ran unopposed in a public election"?>and sell out to trans defense contractorsPlease elaborate more on what the actual fuck is currently happening in the Lunduke Cinematic Universe.
>>108787067>ubuntu is miles ahead of debianDoesn't change the fact that its very existence depends on Debian, therefore comparing the two is pointless.
>anno Domini MMXXVI>not rolling your own distro from scratchI shiggy diggy
>>108787101it's really not. ubuntu has thousands of FTE's. debian could disappear tomorrow and ubuntu would be fine. development would just move to ubuntu.every major corporation packages shit for ubuntu and its glibc and library versions. not debian's. it might work on debian or it might not. on stable i've had ubuntu binaries not run.
>>108787121>Yes, I am unemployed, how did you know?
>>108787132>I use Arch. I am fully employedYou're so close to getting it. Linux is a hobbyist OS except for server.
>>108787101>>108786992>>108786974https://youtu.be/NNLV28w0pZsit has 10 year support. debian barely hits 3-4 without the EOL third party team.i would recommend the whole playslithttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLV8t9JJk1-OAHBefTcHkJbai2de9Jaat4ubuntu hate isn't rational. you are getting much better shit, for free.
>>108787069only gays use it
>>108787096She wasn't meant to run unopposed. She ebay sniped the nomination right before nominations closed, so nobody who wanted to challenge her specifically had time to submit counternominations. Worse, another candidate was hospitalized during the nomination period and tried to nominate a day later; the Pajeeta as the sole candidate had the power to unilaterally restart nominations, but she didn't.>>108787088The "ceremonial" role of throwing Debian's entire treasury at hiring Indians? lmao. Debian is done for.
>>108787156>ubuntu hate isn't rationalWhy is it irrational to not want snaps? Why is it irrational to not trust the distribution that had Amazon spyware in the last 10 years?
>>108787166And then they voted for her.
>>108787188Yeah, because the ballots obviously didn't say "THIS ELECTION DOES NOT REFLECT THE FULL RANGE OF POTENTIAL CANDIDATES"
>>108787174you can do whatever. snaps are pretty nice for some things, especially zoomer tier shit like discord. it has better containerization that flatpak (see flatkill (still here))in fact flatpak actively lowers the security of browsers, which is not a thing in snap because of the chromium dev teams working with the cannonical. same for gnome.at the end of the day its a commercial distro that provides you shit for free. the internet itself is spyware. have you unblocked mcurl and spur.us from ur adblocker to post here? do you post from 8 proxies? they were testing the waters with amazon and saw the backfire.the distro is trash nontheless, but its much better for the desktop and production section of linux than debian
>>108787174because those same morons use Steam that asks for the same telemetry they hate in Ubuntuthe same morons use Flatpaks that are even inferior than snaps and run by the community instead of official devs, literally like aur
>>108787206NOTA was always an option.Most DDs didn't care enough to vote. Of those that did, most preferred her. They could have voted NOTA which would have triggered a new election including the previously hospitalised candidate.As bad as it seems, it's hard to believe that Debian just voted for suicide. But maybe you're right.
>>108787219>containerizationA Windows XP user circa 2003 doesn't know these buzzwords. I just want my programs to be lean.
>>108787131>if $thing happened $otherthing would happenNot an argument. In its current state, Ubuntu is a derivative of, and therefore depends on, Debian.
>>108787219>in fact flatpak actively lowers the security of browsers, which is not a thing in snap because of the chromium dev teams working with the cannonical. same for gnome.Please elaborate?
>>108787156https://documentation.ubuntu.com/project/community/governance/debian/>Debian is the rock on which Ubuntu is builtThere. Straight from the horse's mouth. Not watching some fat fuck rambling about nonsense on YouTube.>ubuntu hate isn't rational.You are the first to mention Ubuntu hate. Nobody here criticized Ubuntu in itself and everyone acknowledges that it's a much better experience OOTB (although Debian has made plenty of progress during the past few years).However, Ubuntu being based on Debian is an objective fact, no idea why this makes people like (You) or that fat fuck YouTuber so defensive.
>>108787273picrel>>108787256its a fork, not really a derivative
>>108787174>Why is it irrational to not trust the distribution that had Amazon spyware in the last 10 years?They really did manage to memory-hole that one spectacularly.
>>108787286Wow. Long live Ubuntu, I guess. I kinda wish Red Hat didn't crush every single one of their projects.
>>108787286Human-written quotes only, please.
>>108787302i use redhat based distro but i was using ubuntu up until 24.04.i have seen a consistent downfall from 18.04. 26.04 is such a mess right now. idk how it is for the server market
>>108787302you mean an american company is worsening something just to build their own shit that controls their data?and people still think Fedora shilling isn't a thing
bsd fucks ALL ALL=(ALL) ALL
Just don't be racist.Here's my plan:>install devuan>Harden and secure it to the absolute maximum, strip it down>Change deb-src to track official debian trixie>Rebuild all installed devuan packages from the canonical debian trixie src>Install those packages>Slowly begin moving away from dpkg using a vibe coded package manager: Goal is to reduce LOC in every single package down to the GNU coreutils, removing as many features as is reasonable>Reduce the system down to where it is easily comprehensible and auditable>Eventually I will KNOW that that it is secure, because I will be familiar with every line of source code, at least somewhat
>>108787225This Steam whataboutism doesn't even work as a whataboutism when you consider that people want to minimise the number of organisations spying on them. Yes, Valve telemetry is bad, but why should I want the proprietary Snap store on top of that? I'll pick one, mate.
>>108787052>>108787096We had plenty of red threads about it, check the archives (debian election general. aka. /deg/). But it's basically a pajeeta that has nothing to do with linux nor programming managed to be the single candidate and debian devs voted for her. People on here were angry because all that she promised was less "cis-males" and more indians or some shit.
>>108787234>As bad as it seems, it's hard to believe that Debian just voted for suicide. But maybe you're right.lmao, people are literally all over the world voting for suicide.
>>108787332ngmi
I use Gentoo or Alpine. There is no middle ground.
>>108786974What events?
>>108786974That's why I use FreeBSD.
>>108787815He's not even talking about the pedo they have speak at their convention who's on the sexual predator registry in the US. Nope, this time we're talking about the fact that a literally who jeeta activist is in charge of the project because some other retard couldn't send an email in time.
