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What are my options if I refuse to have Rust in my kernel?
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await the coming of the Hurd
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>>108787976
2027 will be the year
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Fork a previous version of the Linux kernel and maintain it yourself.
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>>108788017
Real answers only please
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>>108787967
>What are my options if I refuse to have Rust in my kernel?
Don't know, even Doom C++ source ports aren't safe
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>>108787967
That Swedish faggot is a communist boot licking vaxtard
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>>108787967
Get a life?
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>>108787967
I used to hate rust because the T-slurs kept telling me to rewrite all my shit in it.
Now I love rust and want all of it in the kernel now that we can tell the magical AI box to convert the existing code into rust which pisses off the T-slurs.
I literally have no principles except making certain people mad.
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>>108787967
2.4 would probably be a stretch. but i'm sure someone is still maintaining 2.6. that's a "hardcore" version you can run on some "hardcore" soulful hardware.
don't forget to keep us posted showcasing your system.
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Install a 4-year-old kernel.
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>what are my options if I refuse to have Rust in my kernel?
Simple as
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>>108788074
>philadelphia
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>>108788190
Just say tranoids like a normal person, you retard.
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>>108787967
14 years onward and still no reason why Rust is bad other than some trans people program in it, like every other programming language.
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>>108787967
touch grass and seek therapy for your issue
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>>108788594
this was merged right away when an actual merge request about distance culling geometry to reduce lag is postponed
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>>108787967
OpenBSD
OpenIndiana
TempleOS
MS-DOS
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>>108787967
XNU
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>>108789787
shut up macfag
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>>108787967
Vibe-rewrite it in C.
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My kernel will never have Rust (Windows 7).
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>>108788652
>Post a dozen reasons
>NO THOSE DON'T COUNT
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>>108789869
Not a single reason other than le evil trannies has been posted.
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lmao where do you guys find these pictures?
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>>108787967
Bsd
Also whats wrong with rust? I find it more robust compared to c
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>>108787967
You could stop going to /pol/, educating yourself on the subject, reading some books on programming, getting some exercise and washing your ass.
You can also write and compile your own colonel.
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>>108787967
>What are my options if I refuse to have Rust in my kernel?
Windows NT. And have a lot of stuff you don't like or don't know about.
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>>108787967
you already know the answer, anon
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>>108791182
Important option: take a history lesson in how long it's already been owned by corporate interests.
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>>108788027
use AI to transform the rust into C
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>>108791245
Freebsd has now a rust interface and will accept drivers written in rust.
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>>108788594
Don't be a Philadelphiaphobe
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>>108790969
Rust trannies keep making inferior rewrites of existing software so that it can use the MIT nigger license instead of GPL. Piece by piece, their end goal is to strip the GNU from GNU/Linux in favor of a cuck-licensed goyware. Once Linus croaks, the next in line will bend the knee even harder and Linux will stop being free, stop being open, and stop being secure. The kernel will be acquired by some company specializing in the then-trendy "technology" (like the future equivalent of AI hype), and because they'll have so much money (hype charlatan company) as well as a good footing (MIT instead of GPL) they'll ultimately win. Of course you evangelists hackernews kikefags don't see that because you get blindsighted by "le 10k github stars" and "le muh look at saas saar company boughted le me XD", not to mention that thinking that far ahead is too hard for you. Why should I worry about what happens to the Linux kernel? I got mine, the world is just.

And that isn't even beginning to cover the technical flaws of trannylang like the unstable abi, the abysmal package manager, slow compile times, unsound type system, not being practical for all kinds of software (e.g. game engines) etc.

Die.
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>>108791664
>ust trannies keep making inferior rewrites of existing software so that it can use the MIT nigger license instead of GPL. Piece by piece, their end goal is to strip the GNU from GNU/Linux in favor of a cuck-licensed goyware.
Love how a schizo crying about kikes doesn't realize the GPL was made by a Kike.
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>>108791728
No argument?
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>>108791728
kike is a state of mind, not necessarily a literal descriptor. just like how not all black people are niggers.
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>>108791664
the majority of libraries installed in your* system right now are both implemented in C **AND** liberally licensed. this was never not the case.
rust code in the kernel is GPL licensed.
*before you reply. post proof that you're not a wintard /g/eet:
lsof -p `pidof -S',' firefox` -Fn | rg -r '$1' 'n(.*\.so)(\b.*|$)'|sort -u

replace firefox with whatever binary name your browser uses.
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>>108788078
two more weeks conspiritard
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>>108787967
do this instead:
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>>108787976
>await the coming of the Turd
ftfy
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>>108787967
why you hate rust? it's just a programming language.
>inb4 trannies
>inb4 License
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>>108791664
>. The kernel will be acquired by some company
by Microsoft as they already did with winget by stealing the tech from a clueless dev
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>>108792760
>why you hate rust? it's just a programming language.
the community in rust programming language are pretty gay and half of the developers identify as lgbtq, not just the programming language itself
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>>108788078
>That Swedish faggot is a communist boot licking vaxtard
Linus Torvalds is in the WEF website
https://www.weforum.org/people/linus-torvalds/
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>>108791664
This "all the world is conspiracy" is an illness, when you see all happening around you as being targeted by some evil entity (even if they exist) you separate yourself from reality, and drown yourself in this fake scenarios where you're always the victim of a grand conspiracy, mainly done to make yourself believe you're just a victim and not a loser poltard.

Rust is just a programming language, it has it's flaws, like any other, and the community is shit and filled with retards. They're just being enthusiastic and want to make the world safe by rewriting in gay safe rust instead of (C)huddy C. You see all of those trannies and gay corporations supporting it because they will literally take any dildo if it's lubed with politically correct words like DEI and gay rights.

It's not a conspiracy, there's many systems with no GPL, like the BSDs, and many other utils made specifically to be usable in propriety systems like toybox. And multi trillion corporations aren't short of hiring some devs to write what they need even better, like apple did with LLVM because GCC was GPL'ed. I'd say that they benefit from it being GPL, because it means all of the contributors will share their improvements and Linux will always be for the public, so even their competitors will need to share their work.
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>>108792778
nothing you wrote is true or relevant. and there is no such a thing as a "programming language community" anyway.
should i even bother asking for proof that you're not yet another /g/eet wintard?
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>>108787967
>>108791257
You can tell that OP is a nocoder and a lundjew follower that lurks on /pol/. It's the same people who think wayland is a conspiracy and X is the best ever. Even Drew Devault called them on a removed blog post he made.
>web.archive.org/web/0/https://drewdevault.com/2021/02/02/Anti-Wayland-horseshit.html
Even if wayland/rust fags are stupid, and even harmful, it's way stupider to think they're in some stupid /pol/ conspiracy.
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>>108792887
>wayland/rust
that's not a thing retard. you seem to belong to the same retarded group you're pretending to criticise.
rust is good.
wayland is shit as of today. maybe it will be good in two more years.
and the jew pdf file you mentioned is a rust hater btw, and of course an RMS hater. he is the (((blue yang))) to zogduke's (((red ying))).
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>>108787967
touching grass
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>>108792939
>that's not a thing retard. you seem to belong to the same retarded group you're pretending to criticise.
>rust is good.
>wayland is shit as of today. maybe it will be good in two more years.
I'm sure the same people who shill wayland shill rust, they're of the same party and behave the same. They both want to replace some "old stinky" tech with their "new safe" tech, and it's packaged in a gay flag. I don't speak about the tech here, but the dynamic between C/X chuds and Rust/Wayland trannies.
>and the jew pdf file you mentioned is a rust hater btw, and of course an RMS hater. he is the (((blue yang))) to zogduke's (((red ying))).
Drew is retarded, and here you can just say pedophile (it's not like most people here are not), but still a good programmer. Rust/C criticism is valid, everything is a trade in the end, nothing is perfect. But I remember in a time, if you posted a new project made in C, or anything C related, you'd get many replies saying something like "how dare you! don't you think of the children!" Like C is some sin. But after a time, it became the opposite, and people started hating on Rust, the same can be said of X and wayland. And that was in time with the great chuddiness of social media.

It's those far left fags that create the far right contrarian chuds. Both are stupid.
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>>108793017
>I'm sure the same people who shill wayland shill rust, they're of the same party and behave the same. They both want to replace some "old stinky" tech with their "new safe" tech, and it's packaged in a gay flag.
i "shill" rust, which is a programming language.
wayland is not software. it's basically XML files defining a protocol+extension. many implementations exist done by very different people, and none of them cover my needs, so i'm sticking with Awesome/X11.
i also happen to be ideologically opposed to genderism, and that should be seen as irrelevant.
you're just a variation of the retarded pol tard, pretending to be wise. it's clear that you are also a nocoder.
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>>108792131
What's wrong with this kid?
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>>108789869
>there are reasons!
>but for reasons I will not collate, enumerate and present them, but everyone knows!
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>>108793157
We do this every fucking thread, and every fucking thread is the exact same every time.
Cargo is shit.
Microdependencies are ass and should've been killed before they breached containment from javascript.
The Rust Foundation abuses their position to fuck people over.
And every time it's half a dozen gay retards responding
>>Cargo is shit.
>nuh uh
>>Microdependencies are ass
>nuh uh
>>The Rust Foundation abuses
>nuh uh
And then the next thread starts and >>108790969 this gay faggot insists it's always trannies and never anything else.
I fucking hate you people, I've enumerated and collated in enough fucking threads I'm not doing it anymore. Install Gentoo.
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>>108793252
>Microdependencies are ass and should've been killed before they breached containment from javascript.
This

>The Rust Foundation abuses their position to fuck people over.
Also this
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>>108793252
>cargo is shit
>>how?
>it's just shit is OKAY

>micro dependencies bad
>>what microdependencies?
>>linux rust code has zero external dependencies
>micro dependencies BAD OKAY

>The Rust Foundation abuses their position to fuck people over
>>what abuses?
>>what position?
>>what people?
>>how is that technically relevant?
>oh here we go again. pretending like this IRREFUTABLE evidence doesn't exist OVER AND OVER
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>>108787967
Rewrite it back to C or download old sudo and update it. Rust troons will slowly destroy Linux.
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>>108793289
MUH MEMORY SAFETY LANGUAGE KEK
https://blog.ari.lt/b/rust-bad-ii/
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>>108793087
I wasn't attacking you with it, I just said they behave the same, so it's natural for me to group them together. I tried to never mention the quality of any of those software as an argument, I mainly was pointing to how the X/C chuds and Rust/Wayland trannies are the two faces of the same coin.

>you're just a variation of the retarded pol tard, pretending to be wise. it's clear that you are also a nocoder.
You're just angry because I slightly criticized your rust, and you're incapable of reading, and went straight to calling me "le bad person". The argument was never about rust being good or bad, but why there's this fighting.
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>>108791664
By MIT nigger license do you mean MIT+NIGGER? As that license combo is vastly superior to the GPL, accomplishing what line after line of licensing Hebrewmancy can't
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>>108793321
>X/C
not a thing
>Rust/Wayland
not a thing
>"Rust people" vs. "C people"
also not a thing
>"X11 people" vs. "Rust people"
also not a thing
those are made up constructs for the retarded /g/eet's amusement. using these constructs while pretending to be above the collective retardation of /g/eets, is very transparent.
you will have to try harder.
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>>108787976
what's stopping Hurd from adopting Rust?
are GNU devs anti-Rust?
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>>108793353
It's a thing. Not just in /g/, but you go on any forum, or youtube comment and you'd find these people. Their doings is the retarded, I'm just documenting what I saw, don't shoot the prophet. You're taking it like I support any side, and that I generalize everyone to be in one of those stupid camps.
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>>108793415
>it's a thing
>you can to X and Y and see it in the internet gantry there
caring about what the internet gantry say is itself the first signal of post-modern retardation.
caring for that when it contradicts reality is tard-maxxing (a.k.a. jeeting).
in reality, wayland was started by X11 developers. and rust was started, and later adopted, by people who wrote C/C++ professionally (unlike say bjarne, who is a nocoder).
in the context of the linux kernel, Rust4Linux was started by people who were already "C" kernel developers.
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https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/20260509203808.1142311-1-julianbraha@gmail.com/
>3334 files changed, 973634 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
Absolutely sane and normal behavior.
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>>108793298
judging by the first example. this seems like the perfect personification of the junior /g/eet tard (not to be confused with the /g/eet sophomore tard).
this is more evident in the C code than the rust code btw.
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>>108793289
>>cargo is shit
>>>how?
It's a great solution for Windows shitters who don't already have a distro's package manager and a terrible idea for anyone with an actual computer. Most rust software advocates "oh just `cargo install dumbshit`!" That software is then installed in a non-standard location because fuck you that's why.
Bonus points: centralized to crates.io
Bonus bonus points: The alternative to crates.io is "just download the entirety of crates.io and keep it locally" fuck you
Bonus bonus bonus points: The Rust Foundation has full autonomy over crates.io.
Bonus bonus bonus bonus points: Most of those crates are sub-1.0 versioned beta horseshit that nobody cares to finish.

>micro dependencies bad
>>what microdependencies?
Pull in one crate, that thing pulls in a hundred crates, those crates pull in their own crates, trivial programs become sprawling graphs of potential supply chain attacks.

>>linux rust code has zero external dependencies
So far, but I don't care because I'm not a kernel developer.

>The Rust Foundation abuses their position to fuck people over
>>what abuses?
Everything but the crab is trademarked and copywritten to the Foundation and they employ lawfare to make sure nobody else can use their the (R) cog without their permission.
>>what people?
Convention organizers, people blogging about the language, anyone who disagrees with the foundation
>>how is that technically relevant?
You asked "are there reasons that aren't trannies," not "are those reasons technically relevant?" It's a reason, it's not trannies, kiss my fat hairy pimpled ass.

You're just going to "nuh uh" all of these too. But don't tell me I didn't collate a non-zero amount of reasons, you bootlicking cocksucker.
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>>108793594
kek
what should I e-mail them?
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>>108793594
he forgot to filter examples and tests, and to deduplicate licenses. not sure what vcpkg is doing there either.
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>>108793252
>Cargo is shit.
Cargo in kernel context doesn't work the same way as application Rust

>Microdependencies are ass
The kernel Rust implementation is specifically designed to avoid dependency sprawl

These are solvable problems anyway, what the fuck are you smoking?

>The Rust Foundation abuses
Foundation governance issues don't affect the language's technical merits.
Also, care to elaborate, or are you talking about when they proposed something badly written, there was community backlash, they revised it and walked it back? Like normal governance growing pains?

All I hear from you is chud screeching.
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>>108793620
>zero indication of actual technical knowledge
you should have made your post shorter. the waffling doesn't help the larp.
kvetching about not being able to use the cylinders logo was the cherry on top.
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>>108793594
>post development fork
>"LOOK GUISE, SO MANY CHANGES!"

way to parade your stupidity.
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>>108793620
OH LAWD, YOU TRULY ARE STUPID, lawl.

I'm done, u mad
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>>108793147
Is there such a thing as too based?
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>>108793620
The only actual point you had was the chain one, and even then you're too stupid to recognize that this doesn't just apply to kernel Rust specifically and that it was already addressed by the kernel implementation.

You're raising application development concerns in the context of kernel development, like a true maxxtarder.
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>>108791664
alpine is GNU-less linux
I can understand the slow comp times being a problem, though for the kernel, the unstable ABI doesnt really matter since the code is self-contained and the package manager not being important in that context, though for a lot of software this would be a pain in the ass
>unsound type system
c's type system is basically non existent
>not being practical for all kinds of software
and which language is it?
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>>108793756
>The only actual point you had was the chain one
people who raise that "concern" have zero clue about how upstreams, distros, package maagement, ..etc actually works. they never ran "pactree"or whatever equivalent. they have zero clue about the core libraries in their systems, not even at a very surface level, like knowing the names and licenses of these libraries.
that is if any of them is not actually a wintard /g/eet. none has yet posted proof otherwise (>>108791771).
to think that they would be clued on the precise technical challenges of reliably building software, or understanding the subtleties of certain threat models, is rather foolish imho.
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>>108791664
Maybe you should spend more time fighting back against Google locking down Android, Apple and Google duopoly, Microsoft undermining and sabotaging linux kernel development and its ongoing effort to exert control over it instead of your moronic hallucinated politics bullshit?
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>>108793811
>alpine is GNU-less linux
that's chimera.
glibc is not the only gnu core component in systems. it's one of many, but it is one of a few.
alpine uses gcc, and fakes minimalism by shipping busybox by default, with gnu coreutils available as an override, which you would want if you're not a meme user.



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