Be completely unironically unequivocally honest - is it a meme? All I need is consistent phone/text and basic web browsing. All the other linux phones cost lie $5000
>>108789734if you just need consistent web browsing and phone/text, why do you want a weird specialist phone? why wouldn't you just get an iphone or something?
>>108789745Don't want apple/google breathing down my neck
>>108789759Whoever your texting is sending all your texts to one of the two anyway.
>>108789759in what way would one's cellphone os provider "breath down one's neck," anon?
>>108789734My next phone will be a Pine if I can find a carrier that supports it. I expect it to be a platform where good app developers can attract users, like Android was in 2015.
>>108789826first of all >I expect it to be a platform where good app developers can attract userslmao you can't be serious. if you cared about that, again, why wouldn't you just get an iphone? it's the platform that attracts the best app developers and gets users to install their apps.
>>108789759If you dont want to use the app store you dont need to sign in to iCloud. An iPhone will do basic stuff without Apple "breathing down your neck" I would guess that Android would do the same.
>>108789759Grapheneos
>>108789887>"""""""""""""""privacy"""""""""""""""" OS on a google phone
>>108789734> is it a memeyes as a phoneno as a development platformit's really slow, also the battery will barely last one day on full charge even if you don't touch your phone at allpinephone pro was much better in these aspects, but is no longer produced> All the other linux phones cost lie $5000consider getting one of these instead:https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Devices#Phonessdm845 devices (like oneplus 6/6t) are extremely cheap, are much faster, and the support is good enough you can daily drive one on mainline linux
>>108789734Wait for Motorola Graphene phone.It’s gonna be like 7 inches, no headphone jack, not waterproof, and no replaceable battery, I swear.
>>108790113People keep saying the specs on pinephone suck but it's the same as my old nexus 5 which just wasn't bad at all. Hard to distingush the complaints from the "I couldn't do 4k netflix in the woods" types. Shouldn't performance and battery depend on the distro too?
>>108790335>Motorola GrapheneIts just gonna be a phone that meets the GOS minimum requirements and in exchange Motorola will use some GOS features in their ROM like selling the auditor to business customers.
>>108789734It lags when you insert your unlock PIN. It's absolute unoptimized trash
>>108789734why not just get a second hand cheap android/iphone? it doesnt really matter if this is what you need.
>>108791555Well it won’t be any more or less secure than a Graphene Pixel in all likelihood, but there’s opportunities for the hardware features to be better in a few ways.
>>108790932> which just wasn't bad at allbecause your nexus 5 was FASTER. anon, regular pinephone has just four weak, in-order A53 cores, running at a much lower frequency too. your nexus had four custom armv7 cores, with out of order execution, running at a much higher frequency, AND a much more powerful gpu on top of that. being aarch64 doesn't make a slower core any better here, it's still slow.as for battery life, your nexus had a mobile SoC, with things like a proper sleep mode implemented, which is important for a device running on a battery. the original pinephone doesn't.again, pinephone pro is much better in both of these aspects, but it is no longer produced. if you want a smartphone running mainline linux, your best option is to get an android phone that is supported by postmarketos.
>>108789734>All I need is consistent phone/text and basic web browsing.you say this, but then shit creeps in anyway. forced to use a banking app, 2fa and probably much more I cant think of now
>>108791594>less secure than a Graphene Pixel in all likelihoodSure, if you compare it with a P6 but the newest Pixels go a fair bit further than the GOS minimum requirements.
>>108789734It's less of a meme than Trump T1
>>108789745>>108789821>>108789847>>108789886>>108791587Ignore these underage/tourists/trolls/retards
>>108791968the op didnt define his threat model.phone for texting? web browsing? whats the opsec angle here? carrier sees all. you can get fingerprinted on graphene too.what's the angle? op still needs a normalfag phone if he ever wants to install a banking app
>>108789734what's the point if it can't run popular android apps? pure linux phone is literally unusable
>>108792043The iPhone and presumably Android as well, will do no cloud shenanigans whatsoever if you are not logged in. You can manually manage your contacts, calendars etc with no cloud sync. You would be able to use any stock app including a web browser, but if you wanted to install apps on the iPhone you need to log into iCloud. However, uou dont have to stay logged in once they are downloaded. Android does have side loading, for now at least.
>>108792085>will do no cloud shenanigans whatsoever if you are not logged in.they will still send telemetry but it just won't be directly associated to your account. you are correct you don't have to stay logged in on icloud.i've had an awful time with aurora store and other apk websites. funnily enogh even though apkpure is full of ads it the only website where i could install apks easly.
>>108792111with the iphone at least, if you decline permission for as much telemetry as you can, you can reasonably expect what it sends will be minimal. Especially if you are not logged into icloud. Android you could expect to send a lot more, though it might not be crazy without being logged in since so much of it goes through the play store services.
>>108789921Motorola support this year
>>108789921The phone is wiped and bootloader relocked as part of the process.If you're typing this from a PC made in the last 15 years then you've got ME/PSP running in the background anyway.
>>108789734I used a Firefox phone for 3 years, a Tizen for 3 years. Both sub 50$ phones, experience was generally all right.Well, Tizen was quite great, the only thing I missed was for the music player to not forget all state 10 minutes after pause.The Firefox phone was a tad slow and sometimes buggy, but it was reasonable. I was very pissed because if it was buggy one day where I had to monitor exams, but that's it.The Pinephone is extremely slow. I wouldn't consider it as a usable phone, unless you're a hardware hacker dedicated to really work on it. I've tried Mobian, PostmarketOS through JumDrive (wasn't too happy with it), I thought some problems were due to JD. Ended up installing plasma-mobile around November 2023; they released the last beta in December of that year... it broke many things, but surely the official release would fix them... right? It seems it was silently abandoned?If you really want, try the Pro (the regular one is just too slow), and be willing to invest time.
>>108789734>android: be jeet cattle>apple: be gay cattle>graphene: paying google to use GlowOS>pinephone, e, lineage, other altOS: lol lmao>linux-on-semi-phone-device: I have officially given up on ever having sex, everphones are a fucking scam
>>108792288its a shame the Ubuntu Touch phones never worked out. It had some neat ideas and would have been a good 3rd platform to balance out Apple and Android
>>108792296>>graphene: paying google to use GlowOSMotorola GOS this yearTRVST THE PLVN
>>108792212You have to pay extra for ME, now called vPro, enabled CPU. It provides security to prevent an attacker from replacing your firmware with an unsigned malicious one. >>108792296They're not, you're just an idiot that likes to make shit up to complain.
>>108792337ME and vpro are not the same thing
>>108792311I also got one of their tablet, didn't have the money for the phone. It was also riddled with problems (like the Firefox phone project).>retard babbleMy GF runs LineageOS, it's perfectly fine.>>108792337Phones are a fucking scam thoughbeit. There's a reason all open projects fail.
>>108792369For sure, it wasnt ready for prime time. But they were going for the docked phone = desktop thing which would have really cool with it being Ubuntu
>>108792359>unironically using ai slop as an argumentit's true that vpoo is not ME, but don't be fucking retarded, anon
>>108792389I dreamed of that when I was 7 and saw Evangelion on TV. Smartphones did not exist back then, so I imagined they would be the size of a laptop, and only be a full computer when you dock it to a real CPU.However, I'm also a digital artist using a Wacom and convergence seems like a bad idea for UI, as it always seem to go for the lowest common denominator and diminish the full DE experience.
>>108792393It illustrated a fact I already knew.why do you love commas so much?
>>108792430For a while there, the whole industry was aiming for that. And the idea was a full desktop experience when docked and seperate phone UI undocked. They just never really got the hardware fleshed out. Motorola did make one that had a laptop dock but Andorid didnt really have good full desktop then. Microsoft did both UIs in Windows 8 but didnt make any real dockable hardware. Ubuntu phone was working on it too, and would have been full linux de when docked but never really got the project far enough along
>>108792438>It illustrated a fact I already knewyeah right, that's why you googled it>why do you love commas so much?I, Anonymous, find commas to be rather neat
>>108789734I tried some linux mobile distro's, and it’s far from being usable on a daily basis at least on the OnePlus 6T I tested it on
>>108792455I had to meet you at your level and provide you an AI summary.
I have an unlocked bootloader.Can I compile a halix or whatever kernel and dual boot my current rom and a linux distro from usb?
>>108792451And Windows 8 was basically reverted. I don't think it's a resource problem, it's that it's unsolvable. The current "mobile UI is an inferior simplified version" is the best we can do. Maybe what mobile interfaces should focus on making a way to make that you can easily build and compose simplified workflows to get kind of a "best of both worlds"?
>>108789759>constant notifications to sign into google play services>it's clearly intentionally annoying so you'll give in
>>108792588whatsapp has been asking me to backup my chats to their servers for like 6 years, idgaf
