>>108791548I just emailed several chink mini PC brands to make something like picrel.
what's so interesting about a form factor to warrant continuous discussion in a general?
>>108792552Mini PCs are cool and useful sometimes
How is daily driving a RPi5?
>>108792552It's not just a form factor. Mini PCs are like laptops without the keyboard or screen, so you get great value / budget outside of gaming.
Best set up for cooling?
I've been thinking getting a GMKtec EVO-X2 (128GB) to play around with local models.Is it a worthwhile investment, or are there some better machines out there?
>>108793632>laptops without the keyboard or screen>great value
>>108794478>keyboard or screenbloat
>>108794488agree to disagree
>>108794462the ai max is neat for gaming on low power, but the ai max is around half the performance of a 3090, which if you don't mind being low on 16gb of vram the 5070 TI would match (AKA 2x the tokens per second, technically the 5070 TI would get more than 200 tokens per second because it can't fit the larger models, a 3090 would normally run 30tps but most people want 2 3090's so they get 15tps, so from my memory the AI max would run at around 5tps~ at 48gb, but speeds will be higher with a MoE model). And that's for LLM's, for image / etc, the AI max really struggles at that.I would suggest renting gpu's on the cloud to get a taste of what the performance would be like. I'm a vramlet and I started off with google colab to try out 16gb models for short sessions. You can pivot into vast.ai (and I think you can use the same colab script but it's highly technical, and if you end up renting 128gb GPU setups, you can easily rake up $200 in a single day if you forget to turn off the VM, since it's not priced on usage).But local is a lot more easier to setup than renting. I just don't think it's worth $2000+ (and buying 2x 5070 TI's or 9070's for 32gb would be a lot faster for gaming and AI, if you had the case to hold them, but a 5090 might not be cost effective but it would be better for gaming since it combines the power, and you have to option to buy another 5090 later, which will be the minimum spec required for DLSS 6).I also remember there was a planned nvidia ARM laptop that might game a little bit unlike the DGX spark which has zero gaming potential?
>>108794962>half the performance of a 3090actually I think it's more like a quarter, just check the benchmarks for yourself, maybe you could rent an AI max I dunno.
I'm waiting
>>108793632that is until they break in 2-3 years and you can't reuse the shit sodimm, soldered chip, etcdesktops are the pragmatic choice over long term, unless you're using it as emulation box or htpc
>>108795090You're thinking of SoC devices like the Raspberry Pi. These mini PCs use standard CPUs, RAM modules, etc with small motherboards.
>>108795242you mean arm vs x86. and anon is right, mini pcs have soldered cpu, not socketed, laptop ram form factor, and overall low power specs, limited tdp with shit coolingunless you really need something small to fit in some place there's no reason to pay extra for the small form factor, just get a sh oem pc for way cheaper. more connectivity, better cooling, more power, proper power supply
>>108795317You sound really mad for no reason
>>108795330>just buy slop okay??
>>108794039Drill holes or dremel an opening and then mount a fan on top
>>108795317or you need to move regularly
>>108792552I always use a mouse with laptops because touchpads suck.With mini PCs, the keyboard and the monitor are not tied to the device so you can use your custom monitor or keyboard.All laptop keyboard suck while nowadays you can't get a decent laptop with screen smaller than 14". Mini PCs aren't constrained by those. If either of those breaks, you don't need to buy a new laptop either.Mini PCs have decent ports while nowadays laptops having an ethernet port are seen as too generous.>portability95% of the time I was using my laptop was when I was near a power source, so batteries are useless and they are prone to break anyway.For a slight inconvenience when moving you don't need to hassle with batteries ever.
>>108794462How much are you paying for it?
>>108792552idk I just like how after buying a mini pc I could for the first time have my own functional stream server and hoard as many movies as my lifetime permitsso in a sense its like my mini pc is a essential part of my infinity media library that won't ever go away. I always had that dream when I learned for the first time that netflix could delete content
>>108794478>t. gamer that doesnt know the value of owning a homelab
>>108791548Anyway to give more than 500MB of virtual GPU memory on a ACEMagic Mini Kron K1?
>>108792552I can put it in my jeff gerling-style mini rack.
>>108796805nice setup
Show your Mini PCs or setups, /g/
>>108797730Not yet. I'm saving for one.
>>108793631Unless you're using GPIO or CEC, Raspberry Pis are a terrible value. You can get far more performance for the same money from a NUC.
>>108796830What do you do with it?
>>108795090>that is until they break in 2-3 yearsBy that time, even a full tower desktop is going to be obsolete anyway.
>>108795090>that is until they break in 2-3 yearsWhy do you think that be likely to happen?>>108798584Why exactly?
>>108796827I see. I use mine not as the server, but as a chromecast substitute but with linux so it can do other useful stuff. I haven't developed a sentimel attachment to the machine or formfactor but can see it happening if it enabled a project that sat in the pipeline for a long time.>>108796805so you move enough for a full desktop to be an inconvenience while moving a mini pc plus its peripherals is acceptable?I agree with your reasoning and share many constraints but I settled for minimizing computing at any place other than my desktop tower, because I'd rather have full comfort 90% of the time than 90% comfort 100% of the time, if you get what I mean, but I'm definitely a poweruser
>>108799079Can your full desktop get into your bag?
>>108798170Steam Cube?
GMKtec EVO-X2
mini pee sea is sooo hecking cool and awesome guys
>>108802983mine is cooler, it has rgb lighting that i never have turned on
>>108801176Something like this >>108791955
>>108791548I'm getting a mini pc and putting retroarch on it, then using it as a game console It's perfect to just sit under my TV
>>108802847Nothings mini about that price
>>108791548which chink minipc should i buy to run opnsense and how many ethernet ports is enough? 6?
>>108792552The ones with emgineering samples are poorfags gayming pc
>Ryzen H 255 is basically a defect 8845 HS that has its NPU disabledThis is the first time I've seen a defect chip being sold. It is also significantly cheaper.
>>108804443Yeah. Sadly
https://youtu.be/rFybkyEYDQM?si=h3HsyVX6XzCXvi5g
GMKtec K15 AI Mini PC - $819.99
