https://gitlab.com/linuxmint/pins/mint/gnome-calendar/-/work_items/1Their package is not a "fork", they just ship the LTS package.Can't their system see that the bug report comes from an old version and just ignore it?
>>108793187So Debian ojisans don't file bug reports and Linux Mint babies do?Or did everyone from Debian just fuck off from GNOME around the time 3 came out?
>>108793187Gnome is a lgbti and all gnome users are troons.Whoever uses Gnome their opinions are irrelevant since troons are mentally unstable.
>>108793280Last time I saw a trans person talk about Gnome they also disliked it and gave a pretty good technical takedown of it too.Everyone dislikes Gnome except people who don't realise they have a choice, don't know any better.
I hate GNOME, but I hate short release cycles even more. Updooting is stupid and all my systems run about three years lag from upstream because upstream is always breaking shit.Those GNOME devs should stop fucking with the calendar application and if anything, backport the bugfixes they somehow fucking need to versions from 2020.
>>108793307Gnome did this to themselves. Leftists are insufferable retards and Gnome shaman didn't helped it too.
>>108793187KDE and Gnome bashing Debian and Debian-based for not updating their shit and users sending old versions bug reports.Is the "Debain way" incompatible with modern Linux usage?>>108793271> So Debian ojisans don't file bug reports and Linux Mint babies do?Debian users are older and more tech savvy so I guess they know that sending bug reports is unproductive while Mint users aren't aware of their distro's release scheme.
Linux mint has been raided by far right cultists since windows 11 collapse and Gentoo kicking them out.
>>108793330>Debian users are older and more tech savvy so I guess they know that sending bug reports is unproductiveDebian users beaten down to a pulp by time accepting that their release cycle is always going to leave their system broken. I am sad to hear it.
>>108793339>their release cycle is always going to leave their system brokenwell actually, the reason to use debian is to have working system, considering the path gnome updates are going.
>>108793339Don't be, they use it as a badge of honor inbetween mutterings of "stability" and "frankendebian".
>>108793187FOSS devs are all literally retarded. The movement is doomed. The lowest of the low are in charge of it.
>>108793360only gnome and gnome adjacent faggots are like thisthey're not the foss movement and if one entity is that, it's gnu.
>>108793334Qrd on Gentoo kicking out people for political reasons?
>>108793187So Mint uses the Gnome Calendar App from Debian plus some minor tweaks that are not a problem, but because Mint users submit bug reports its Mint's fault and responsibility and not Debian's? And the Gnome devs are literally going "shame on you" for pointing out this fact, while being fairly antagonistic. I get why it may be annoying to get bug reports for issues you already fixed, but do they actually have any authority to demand this? Or are they being cunts because they can't force him to fix it and want him to.
>>108793187Ironic weeb google chrome chan avatar.
I only find comfort in knowing that one day these "people", these opinion havers, these GNOME devs, will die of AIDS.
>>108793496The GNOME shitters are being cunts, but that's their natural state of being. They can do a trademark lawsuit just like Mozilla did to Debian 20 years ago and force them to make Icecalendarweaselfox or whatever. And RedHatIBM will do that.The Mint guys are in the right but it's a pointless fight that's been had hundreds of times now. To make GNOME happy and not mess with branding patches Mint has to ship the latest GNOME the day it releases and deal with the onslaught of bug reports when they break everything. And probably do upgrade treadmill for libc too so the whole desktop will fall apart every month like it does in Arch and Gentoo.There's really two desktop class Linuxes now>Red Hat shovelware cockgobbling Fedora>Small time Devuan were never upgrading ever distrosEvery single "major" company sponsored one is being forced to human centipede Fedora on commit day to make the support burden minimal for the tech bros.You will own nothing, you will updoot, you will tell us your age and race and TIN, and you will be happy.
>>108793307>except people who don't realise they have a choice, don't know any better.both gnome devs and gnome haters invent some imaginary person in their head that would actually use GNOME but in reality it's just shit. Steve Jobs could be opinionated because early macintosh, NeXTStep and early OS X were actually good and he had the manpower smart enough to understand it. Even tim cook wouldn't dare be as arrogant as that because he knows he's not that smart and neither are his current employees. Gnome has 5X the arrogance of Steve Jobs with nothing to show for it.
Asperger ill weirdos in FOSS have been doing this for years: https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2007-December/045475.html
>>108793659FOSS won
>>108793659https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2007-December/045478.html>But distros don't maintain marginal packages, they just throw them in and>expect the author to deal with the distro's users with the random snapshot>that happened to be there at the megafreeze time.I really get my rocks off on this shit. You'd think after 20 years people would realize whatever version gets packaged into a distro becomes an LTS branch, whether the author likes it or not. Maybe with LLMslop agentic code monkey generation they'll finally learn how to fucking backport.
>>108793187The dude behind the anime profile pic is a disabled indian tranny. Can it get worse than that?
>>108793330The "debian way" is the most unstable piece of shit i ever ran. Yes if your system NEVER changes and NEVER needs new updates, that's brilliant! But if you do have to get a newer release of something that is only in sid or whatever, 50% chance something just fucking breaks. And if you actually want to system upgrade eventually, in my own experience that's a 100% chance everything breaks, because it happened twice to me before i went to NixOS and never looked back.
>>108793739You basically just queue up all of your system maintenance rather than dealing with it piecemeal like in a rolling release.I think it's stupid. I would rather look at a single line config change once every couple of months or so than have my whole system go down every couple of years and have to change those config lines anyway. All I would get for dealing with that system breakdown is being on old versions of packages.It's not incompatible with modern Linux but rather incompatible with good common sense.>never looked backDo you use Reddit? All tech-adjacent Redditors seem to have mass-adopted this turn of phrase.
>>108793739I've run Debian systems for 15 years>But if you do have to get a newer release of something that is only in sid or whatever, 50% chance something just fucking breaksThis is true, but don't pull down from sid ever, it's not for that. You need to be completely out of tree when you go off the reservation in Debian. For me, that's meant ./configure && make && checkinstall / make install with all the compile time dependencies built as well.>And if you actually want to system upgrade eventually, in my own experience that's a 100% chance everything breaksDebian used to be better at a stable release to stable release upgrade running without breakages. But I just had some stupid package conflict on the bookworm to trixie upgrade that took out practically everything except coreutils, bash and the kernel. If memory serves it was because steam (from contrib but within the distro repos) pulls in i386 builds and one of the i386 libraries didn't have an upgrade path apt could figure out so I had half on the libc6 and half on the new and everything got stuck. I had to rescue apt from a TTY after it uninstalled everything and eventually, figured out it had to uninstall steam around the time it took out X11 and also the printer drivers.So fucking stupid.
>>108793187GNOME devs are entitled and whining per usual.Mint devs should close the issue; dialogue with the garden ornaments is not productive. What are they going to do about it? Rant about the concept of LTS existing?They should make their apps less buggy, or add a phase-out mechanics to their apps instead of trying to remove features for "minimalism" and forcing a specific workflow.
>>108793280the only people that actually use gnome are rhel employees. gnome devs don't use this shit outside of a virtualbox running fedora. >>108793330the "debain way" is tossing old yet stable software on a server and forgetting about it. not their fault retards want to use it as a daily driver.
>>108793980It's almost like people forget why Ubuntu was such a massive success or they just think it's because they made the Installer easy enough that Torvalds (theoretically) could use it.
>>108793702I checked some his posts and dear god man...>disabled>can't find a job>decided the best course of action is to spend all your valuable free time contributing to a project that is non-paid with features that 0.1% people will ever need (accessibility)
>>108793187based, gonna switch to mint and flood GNOME with bug reports from throwaway accounts
>>108793187What an obnoxious little faggot kek
>>108794276I don't understand? It's literally the exact same build as debian and ubuntu?
>>108794294What he said was>We don't care about which package sucks; we care about whose unsupported version bothers and distracts us on a regular basis — in which case, it's the package provided by Linux Mint. If Debian Stable and Ubuntu LTS's packaging of GNOME Calendar bother us regularly, then yes, we will request them to stop shipping GNOME Calendar (not "GNOME apps") or rebrand it. As it stands, they are not bothering us.So it's literally just 'too many Linux Mint users make bug reports so we are mad at you'. Could also be they dislike Linux Mint because of schizophrenic opinions like >>108793334
>>108794294Mint's dev made a little fix for an older version, which in Gnome's dev mind is a fork, ergo the patching responsability falls under Mint and that the software shouldn't have Gnome branding.The whole thing is that Gnome doesn't want Mint to package old software but they're being really roundabout about it as Mint said they wouldn't package newer releases, so they're trying to berate them by saying that it's their responsability.
>>108793640I fvking kneel
>>108793739>>108793757>smart people on /g/Im surprised
>>108793187it's a troon, again
>>108793757Didn't a bunch of Ubuntu LTS users on here have major issues when updating? It might be because they likely disabled snap or made modifications, but that's good evidence that static releases are just postponing the headache and likely making it worse. It makes sense for companies that basically don't want to update ever and if they have to they expect it to be a huge hassle anyways.
>>108793280>gnome users are troons>kde users are jeetsThere's no escape from this hell.
>>108795124Cheesed to meet you
Is there a purely sickness distro? I mean no python no rust no nothing just c. Do I have to install BSD?
>>108795124Linux is a server OS, so you can just avoid them entirely.
>>108794917worse, it's a disabled indian troon.
Mint deserves the punishment. Cinnamon is a completely useless project, and nobody has any need of another buggy Debian spin.
>>108793187You expect these types of people to be rude and condescending inside their own little fiefdoms on discord or discourse, but to go to someone else's issue tracker and behave like this is wild.
how come no prominent developer from kde or any other project is as rude and self entitled as gnome's? you don't see that "Nate" guy from kde throwing a fit every time some retard leaves a nasty comment or whatever, after all isn't dealing with that part of being an open source developer?
>>108793271Who the hell uses Gnome and Gnome calendar on Debian? You don't need a GUI.
>>108793187typical gnomecuckwhen it was pointed out that they refuse to patch a bug just ignore it and pretend mint is always in the wrong and ignore the fact that upstream also uses shit old versionsno sympathy for this troon
>>108795398it's in their culture to act like this, please understandalso kde devs actually use kde and want it to get better. gnome devs use macos and only get paid to do makework on gnome so that red hat can say that rhel technically has a desktop if some enterprise client wants it
just say no and disengage
>>108795381the funniest part is he barely does anything within GNOME but he weasels his way into several issues and forum posts, every "we" he says in the Mint issue is just his projection from him having a tantrum>>108795398there are a few, especially the germans, they're just most spread-out. I specifically remember this one post where a dude was sharing a Kwin script he made, I think? people were praising it and then one guy showed up to say something along the lines of>we have studied the UX for years, this is very bad thing to do and you won't make any friends with the KDE team, we will never accept thiseven though the guy didn't even mention upstreaming or anything lol. was surprised to look up his name afterwards and he turned out to be a pretty big name in the project
>>108795420I hate to say it, but I kind of agree with the troon on a fundamental level. Having software that's 4 years out of date in some distro is the distros problem.
>>108793702>indianCanadian, glad I could help.
>>108793187How can you still get annoyed at bug reports in the big ‘26?>Get 1000 bug reports.>Claude, summarize all these bug reports, exclude reports from versions that are not applicable, like linux mint.It’s literally that easy dude.
>>108795443Still comes back to being the fault of Debian and Ubuntu LTS since Mint is just a fork. Mint is popular, but still a pretty small distro. Basically, rather than dealing with the problem directly, they just want to play wack-a-mole and make the forks deal with it. They don't want to rock the boat by acting like this to Debian or Ubuntu because ultimately they're mad about the concept of long term support and they could easily just have their bug tracker say "Linux Mint fans need not apply"
>>108795599yep gnomecucks pick their battles strategicallyif they tried to challenge canonical they would get raped or worse (from their view) have all their packages stripped from ubuntu entirely and crater the userbasemint is a nobody distro by comparison and doesnt even have an official gnome variant, they sacrifice nothing by cucking mint into taking on the support burdenthe one commit (for the bug they refuse to fix) is very much a wedge issue in this regard
>>108793330KDE packages on Debian are garbage because the fucking troons at Debian kicked out their KDE maintainer while calling him a nazi and were never able to replace him.GNOME packages on Debian are garbage because GNOME is garbage. They are maintained by Canonical emoyees.There is an important difference here.
>>108795642This.Gnomecucks regularly rant about Ubuntus default installed Gnome extensions, but they never actually go there and demand something.They still protect Jeremy Bicha the child rapist, who is a Gnome maintainer because of Canonical.Gnomes will never actuall complain about a corpo, but they will fight regular users tooth and nail.Mint is a community distro.
>>108795176One of the BSD has Lua modules in the kernel (can't recall which one). Freebsd will soon accept rust drivers (the rust kernel SDK is being tested).
>>108795504Are you paying the token consumption? Gnome people have no money.
>>108795881I think it's NetBSD and yeah FreeBSD isn't a conservative (in the traditional sense) distro that'll avoid Rust forever. OpenBSD is basically what people want ideologically, but it's conservative to a fault (for desktop use) and requires effort to use and experience to appreciate.In theory people could fork Linux just to remove Rust, but I don't know if that's actually a big enough concern to warrant the effort. I know 'just fork it bro' gets tiresome after a while, but at a certain point you have to actually put in some effort rather than hopping around hoping for a pre-made perfect solution.
>>108795666>kicked out their KDE maintainer while calling him a naziKek. It's amazing how many purported NAZIs the linux community seem to uncover.
>>108795599I don't think that actually matters. If Mint users are complaining about bugs that are otherwise fixed, then Mint is not serving its users with adequate software. Saying "but Debian" doesn't help those users even a little bit.
>>108796115>If Mint users are complaining about bugs that are otherwise fixed, then Mint is not serving its users with adequate software.Nobody should use Poetteringware anyway, so every version of GNOME is shit. It was shit back in the 2.X days already.But if these green users are going to take the GNOME foot up their ass the distro is screwed because keeping GNOME calendar recent would mean riding the latest bleeding edge GNOME and Weston builds and then that's going to drag the rest of userland and the kernel with it.
>>108796115Mint is being singled out because they fixed a bug on their end and provided the package, which is how the Gnome devs found out Mint being a bug reporting annoyance. If Mint used the same package as upstream, the problem would still exist regardless.The issue is not just Mint, but the whole LTSC model adopted by Debian and its derivatives.
>>108796188Forgot pic.
>>108793187why wont these distribution just drop gnome and go straight kde only? or just develop their own stuff with qt? but they just keep taking it up the ass from these faggot gnome devs
>>108793187Does it bother Gnome devs when a bug report is submitted from within the OS?If so I would like to automate bug report spam from multiple IPs. Can anyone please confirm, and also suggest how to make the bug reports as difficult and time consuming for them to deal with as possible?I can use an LLM to generate the false reports locally so each one looks unique.
>>108795436This, don't give them a second of your time. It would be pretty funny to see the poorfags sue
>>108796210>just develop their own stuff with qt?Cinnamon IS "their own stuff," they started it more than a decade ago as a fork of Gnome 3, so GTK was a no brainer. Pivoting from that would be too much work.As for why they don't offer KDE, I have no idea, but people like Cinnamon. Also it would have the same issue of outdated versions as Gnome, so not really a solution.
>the gnomes are at it againyou know you can always just ignore these fags right?
>>108793414I can't recall the details but Gentoo was being taking over by white supremacists, trumpists, antivaxxers, ... In a last attempt to save Gentoo from becoming a nazi bar, the staff did a massive ban on irc, a cleanup of the mailing lists, and entirely and permanently deleted the offtopic sub forum. It seems they succeeded; Gentoo is still alive and usable.
>>108796210Kde people are no better
>>108793187What a fucking faggot
>>108796188Yeah, I understand what the problem is, but clearly Mint needs to change its model if the users are complaining about bugs that are fixed. I would never use Mint, but even if I did I certainly wouldn't want to use software that is buggy and outdated.
>>108796358I also find the Debian/Ubuntu/Mint release model to be antiquated, especially as software gets released and patched often nowadays. I just find them being singled out here to be rather unfair.
>>108796329KDE is lacking a lolcow like ebussy.
>>108793187Why can't he just say "Fuck you, I'm not changing shit"? It's in the licensing, he doesn't get to tell him how to use the software, that's what FREE software actually means.
>>108795124You know the funny thing? the gnome dev in OPs pic is a pajeet troon
>>108793271>So Debian ojisans don't file bug reports and Linux Mint babies do?Pure Linux Mint users far outnumber Debian baremetal enthusiasts. Most things running pure debian are on servers and thus would never interact with GNOME.
>>108796379Well the reason they are singled out is obvious, Mint has by far the most desktop users. Ubuntu is only used by corporate drones and nobody runs Debian with a GUI.
>>108793320>>108793307Most of their problems really are because of fat, pube-faced retards not backporting any of their changes, and simply demanding the world change to fit them.And you know what? It works. Most distros are more than happy to bend over backwards to accommodate anything GNOME does. They destroyed the xlibre guy's life because he wasn't doing the same for them, and then banned everyone against age verification because they weren't going along with their schemes. They hate Mint because he's the one guy they can't cancel through sheer corporate brute force, and his distro is relatively popular while still using their software. All they can really do is jump up and down and scream "STOP USING MY STUUUUUUUUUFFFFF"
>>108796379They're singling them out because they do NOT play by Canonicals rules. They routinely tell Canonical to fuck themselves and tell the corporate bullies to piss off, like what happened around Snap. That made SOOO many dicksuckers and Canonical troons have a melty when he pretty much declared that he just wasn't going to eat the slop.
>>108794485What's funny is their license literally says that it's okay to patch their software. GNOME devs are mentally ill.
>>108793334even in this schizophrenic headcanon, there is no reality where Gentoo users would migrate to an Ubuntu fork with systemd enabled. They would go to Artix or Devuan.
>>108796288You literally can't, like it or not GNOME is the biggest desktop environment on Linux. Sure, it's mostly because its' the default, but that doesn't change the fact that it's the biggest and these retards make the rules for all of Linux. That's why they're so mentally ill and have meltdowns and power trips LITERALLY every other week, they have it ingrained in their minds that they are the king and this is their kingdom and they can simply exile anyone who crosses them.
>>108796419Not Mint's specific fault though. Nothing that Mint is doing is really any different from Debian or Ubuntu.
>>108796210At one time, not too long ago, GTK's strength was that you didn't NEED to be associated with the politics of the GNOME project or any of its developers. It had as much association with GNOME as a project as Oxford the paper company does to what you write in a notebook. GTK was just a blank canvas for making GUI components, nothing more.All of this shit with "DO AS I SAY" GNOME politics and "If you use GTK as a dependency then we own your whole project and can tell you what to do and what you think" is a new development from the last 10 years or so. NOBODY would have been using GTK if this was how they acted during the dawn of all the forks from GNOME and KDE. Now they're stuck because they ultimately are beholding to the GNOME devs to keep GTK running, which means they have to listen to mental midgets demanding shit like "YOU CHANGED THE FONT ON OUR GLORIOUS TITLE BAR? THIS IS A FORK!!!!!"
>>108796419> Mint has by far the most desktop users. The only reason this is getting reported as a bug is because Mint has the most desktop users. The other distros have an irrelevant market share and they likely use corporate software that has their own built-in versions of a calendar like Outlook.Mint's crime is that it's used by people who are forced to interact with shitty fucking GNOME software that continues to have 20 year old bugs and punish anyone who fixes them.
>>108796405I figured as much lmao, that makes 3 jeet troons I’ve seen/heard of, is it rare?
>>108793330>Debian users are older and more tech savvy so I guess they know that sending bug reports is unproductiveThey also know GNOME devs will never fix anything. The problem here is the GNOME devs, they have a version that is still being used by Ubuntu, Debian, AND Mint and they refuse to support it. So Mint makes a patch (PERFECTLY LEGAL BY THEIR OWN RULES BTW) and GNOME devs go "REEE, REEEEEE STOP MAKING OUR SOFTWARE BETTER!!!!"
>>108793187what's with the tranime avatar?
>>108796514See >>108796405
>>108793693https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2007-December/045486.html>Fine, I'll remove it, and all software from you forever, anything else to help being irrelevant?>S-SCREW YOU, I'LL GO BACK TO A GOOD OS WHERE THEY RESPECT MY FREEDOM LIKE WINDOWS wonder where he is right now?
More banter:> You need to remove old versions of GNOME apps from Linux Mint or fork them with a rebrand, you should also add them to the denylist to prevent their download. Your Linux Mint users bug report too much, and it is too much work for us to add a filter for old versions in our bug report form. I don't care newer versions don't work in LTS, ot that our software in Ubuntu and Debian have the same technical problems. Bringing up other distros means you are an irresponsible person doing whataboutism. Shame on you, repent and do as I say.> Ok, I don't care either.> Why? How come you don't care?! Actually, instead of ignoring Debian, why not be responsible and collaborate a solution with them? You are abusing your power by avoiding accountability, and maliciously redirecting Linux Mint users into opening issues. You are also making Debian do your dirty laundry, even though they have nothing to do with this
>>108796591>> You need to remove old versions of GNOME Says who?Not GNOME:https://handbook.gnome.org/development/legal.htmlhttps://github.com/GNOME/gnome-calendar/blob/main/COPYING>GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE>Version 3, 29 June 2007So did this guy get into GNOME development but never read any of the licenses before?
>>108796591I think it's just indian behavior. they are used to telling lesser castes to do something, and they're legally and spiritually required to do it. The idea that this could cut both ways if nobody recognizes them as spiritually superior is incompatible with their species.
I use gnome but if gnomies came to my forum I would just ban them all lmao
What a megacope.Boohoo, people complain about your project being broken on social media. That might be relevant except that isn't what is happening in this instance at all.
>>108796580Petulant retard so probably MacOS.Can't really blame him for leaving Linux in that era though. It really has come a long way, which accurately implies it used to be shit.
>>108796655Genuinely I think this is just indian arrogance at owrk.
>>108796591https://gitlab.com/linuxmint/pins/mint/gnome-calendar/-/work_items/1#note_3330162015>Have you thought of a technical solution to implement this?>Yes. My conclusion is simple: there is no technical solution to a societal problemwow we TRULY live in a society.
>>108793187I have Bazzite and the calendar doesn't work. Can't add any events to it and if I put the widget on the desktop it thinks it's tomorrow. Doesn't seem to even work if I use different calendar apps from the bazaar
https://gitlab.com/linuxmint/pins/mint/gnome-calendar/-/work_items/1#note_3333044390Okay who is the fucking retard who is IMMEDIATELY going to the Mint bug report tracker and doing the same fucking copypasta that they got banned for over here?
>>108796680The calendar this guy is throwing himself on to protect its sanctity actually fucking sucks as a product, most components of GNOME do. I have not found a good calendar app for Linux that does everything locally. Very few even support drag and drop, even fewer support linking files or even internet links. Almost none allow setting all of these at once, and none of them allow syncing with a file or exporting to some sane format like csv or excel, much less a database. I gave up entirely and just have a physical planner. Just a common GNOME-fuckup™ in a series of Open Source fails.
I had no clue Clement was this fucking based.
>And what do I do with this information?The strength it would have taken me to not say "cry about it" is immense.
>>108796701He just did, check again.
>>108796701So why are you here bitching about someone patching it? HOLY FUCKSAAAR DO NOT REDEEM THE PATCH SAAR
>>108796710lol, good response from him.Here's another good one he just fired off in my picrel.Didn't (>>108796616) just say this same thing? Maybe it was an obvious response, OR MAYBE CLEMENT LEFEBVRE IS IN THIS VERY THREAD AS WE SPEAK.
>>108796729I'm glad he's not backing down. Just giving in because a dev is being antagonistic would set a bad precedent. Also, the Gnome dev is being a dick and deserves to get their feathers ruffled (Gnome feet tickled?).
>>108796729YOU SPOOKED HIM
>>108796188the bugfix is a wedge issue so they can reduce support burden as they have no other cudgel with which to bludgeon mint users who they perceive as annoying noobscanonical wont put up with them whining in the issue tracker about old releases being shipped in an LTS, they know they have a lot to lose by arguing with canonical while alienating mint can only be an upside to the gnome foundationeven if mint broke with ubuntu and did rolling releases for gnome tools they would still hate mint users for filing a large chunk of bug reports
>>108796699Is he talking about the debian dev who is a serial child rapist?
>>108796729>>108796796holy based
>>108793187Not that I want to stand by GNOME, but how is there problem if someone downstream has bugs in their old versions? Unless there is a support contract, they have no obligation to do anything. Take it or leave it.
>>108796876The retards at GNOME don't realize you can just "closed, wont fix" on any bug that lists being on an ancient version.
>>108795906Even a local model could do this kind of bitch basic secretary work.
>>108796729BASED CLEM
>>108793187Isn't this guy an indian no coder that only write docs or something like that?What a fucking faggot.
>>108794458Linux Mint's devs should encourage their users to actively report Gnome problems to the Gnome devs as much as possible until ebussy is removed.
>>108793187>Clement Lefebvre - 2 hours ago>Obviously, nobody wants to interact with child molesters. Please let's stay on topic though, this is about a request for a patch. It has nothing to do with GNOME's code of conduct or anyone's criminal record.lolwut? What's the context?
>>108797024That part is real? lmao might switch to mint
>>108793187This is painful to read. No one in their right mind should support or use GNOME. It is a dying vanity project cobbled together by delusional subliterates. I'm a Cinnamon and Xfce user, but seeing how hostile and retarded these GNOME niggers can get makes me want to go full QT more and more every day. KDE still looks like a major pain in the ass, but LXQt is mighty tempting. Absolutely fuck GNOME. Guy who created that issue deserves to be shot in the head. Clem is 100% correct.
>>108797024It was in response to a comment just before it, but it was removed/hidden. Don't remember exactly what it said but it was something about a convicted child molester being protected by GNOME. I don't know the full lore. It read a bit like a pasta, probably posted by someone from here.
>>108796973this
>>108793187What's shameful is how ubuntu and mint contribute exactly 0 to upstream.
>>108797129They both contribute massive amounts of code upstream 24/7, but not to GNOME (because anyone involved with that project should not be alive).
>>108795449Nope. It's an unemployed jeet living in Canada.https://social.treehouse.systems/@TheEvilSkeleton/>Queer Indian developer from Montréal, Canada :3https://social.treehouse.systems/@TheEvilSkeleton/115712578011826389>Hey, I've been under distress lately due to personal circumstances that are outside my control. I can't find a permanent job that allows me to function, I'm not eligible for government benefits, my grant proposals got rejected, paid internships are quite difficult to find. Essentially, I have no stable monthly income that allows me to sustain myself.
>>108797163S/he got what s/he deserves.
>>108793187>lockedMint won.
>>108795191I can't shitpost on 4chan from TTY.And no, Lynx won't do, I also need to be able to make memes.
>>108796316>white supremacistsneatnobody uses gentoo.
>>108796796You can't "move away" from a free license. The free one can be used forever, like how did they think it worked?
>>108797195Sir more ESL classes please sir.
>>108797222Curse vishnu.
>>108797087Probably talking about Jeremy Bicha.
>>108796591>>108796729>>108796796I suddenly really want to switch to mint
>>108793739Being fair: Arch on the other end can break just as easily being rolling release. Right now I'm basically waiting for "lib32-libelf 0.195" to hit the main branch since apparently lib32 (forgetting the specific dependency) was on 0.194 and was "needed" since 0.195 in pacman was only in the "testing" branch of extra and core despite the fact MY (computer/user) pacman WAS NOT in testing for either branch.Ironically enough as I'm writing this, pacman -syu now doesn't bitch about that because they finally pushed 0.195 to main after like 6 hours.ANYWAY, point is: Package maintainers being split across three main application systems (apt[-get], rpm, pacman) is stupid and this problem would be resolved if there was one universal package system to where rolling release could be "sid" (so to speak)/testing and the stable branch is an "old" (last Toy Story name for Debian, not current one, I guess?) branch while partial upgrades that would bitch about a possible incompatibility if not properly tested would be a middle ground or something.ANYWAY, rant point is: both sides have their issues. Rolling just fixes some of these issues a bit sooner and Debian's "stability" hurts it because they don't bother having a sort-of-middle ground between "sid"/testing and stable.
>>108793980>are rhel employees.Is Torvalds a RHEL employee? That's pretty much only Gnome's claim over KDE: "We're simplier to use that old fogeys like Linus use us!"
>>108795504Imagine using the Lying If/Else Machine instead of just RegEx'ing a "from: <Distro>" field and into-the-trash-it-goes'ing Mint without publicly stating those are shadowbanned/never seen outside of the user report.
>>108797277>lib32-libelf 0.195oh I though I was the only one, that was a pain in the ass today
>>108797277arch breaking can be annoying but it's inherently less annoying because rolling release is up front about the risks and the distro jannies try to make the process smoother for end users. you will run into a lot of speed bumps but most of them are trivial as long as you check the front page now and then (this is very easy to script).a universal package system isn't really workable anyhow since different people have different needs and opinions. the way arch does packaging would be pants on head retarded in an enterprise environment but is great for home PCs for example, i'm not using fucking dpkg unless i'm getting paid to
>>108793187Just stop using Gn*me tools and instead use something that actually works and does not involve dealing with annoying fucks.
>>108796316>white supremacists, trumpists, antivaxxersWelp, that's a triple yikes from me. We heckin' all agree they're the bad guys, right?
>>108793389GNU has nothing to do with FOSS.It's part of the free software movement and doesn't promote open source.
>>108797329what. the whole point of the F in FOSS is to specify that the software is libre by GNU/FSF standards instead of source available cuckware
>>108793187>Mint uses a old version of GNOME calender>GNOME gets reports od the bugs instead od Mint>GNOME wants them to rebranded since is an old version unmaintained by them so the bug reports go to Mint>/g thinks this is bad
>>108795124I use Trinity and it's developed by slavs and oldfags :D
>>108797359Gnome incessantly bitches about how their project is their project, and if anyone else's USECASE requires redhat man hours too fucking bad fuck off and die.They then turn around and demand third parties do work to support Gnome and what Gnome wants to do.My position is the Indian tranny reporting this "issue" should be thrown into the Pacific Ocean.
>>108797372>Gnome incessantly bitches about how their project is their projectyes, and since they own the project they can say when is not freely./g just likes to bitch about GNOME for nothing.
>>108793187inb4 Lunduke reports on this and Mint joins the chudware stack
>>108797359>Mint uses a old version of GNOME calenderJust like Ubuntu and Debian (upstream), and countless other distros.>GNOME gets reports od the bugs instead od MintMaybe 10 reports a year, yeah.>GNOME wants them to rebranded since is an old version unmaintained by them so the bug reports go to MintThey should be asking Debian or Ubuntu.>/g/ thinks this is badBecause it is. They can easily ignore those 10 bug reports a year or cry about it in private. They're retarded faggots.
>>108793187Why won't gnome just stop shipping broken software so they wouldn't receive bug reports at all?
>>108797359if they don't want people using old versions and opening issues maybe they should change their license.
>>108797337rms considers OSS and FOSS to be harmful terms, and prefers free and libre. > Thus, if you want to be neutral between free software and open source, and clear about them, the way to achieve that is to say “FLOSS,” not “FOSS.”> We in the free software movement don't use either of these terms, because we don't want to be neutral on the political question. We stand for freedom, and we show it every time—by saying “free” and “libre”—or “free (libre).”https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/floss-and-foss.en.html
>>108797391>Because it is. They can easily ignore those 10 bug reports a year or cry about it in private. They're retarded faggots.or Mint can kindly do what GNOME says, simple as. you are bitching for nothing.
>>108797397>f they don't want people using old versions and opening issues maybe they should change their license.or tehy could ask Mint to rebranding, both are valid. GNOME is not doing anuthing wrong.
>he's actually ITT>rage typoskek
>>108797359>GNOME wants"wants" is doing heavy lifting here.gnome spied on everyone and now it's biting them in the ass.good
>>108797407We don't need coders anymore. We have ai.
>>108797421>gnome spied on everyoneno need to lie, it was KDE the one DE that had telemetry
>>108797400once again i underestimate this man's crippling autism
>>108797401>>108797407Fuck off Haritroon. Clem explained. We explained. Your demands are retarded. Simple as. Kill yourself tonight.
>>108797417it's true lmfao
>>108797435>We explained.nah, you just showed you are just itching to shit on GNOME for every nothing burguer, even when you faggots not even use Mint.
>>108797401>or Mint can kindly do what GNOME says, simple aswhy would they comply? the ball is not in their court
>>108797449>why would they comply?then GNOME will keep asking, simple as.
>>108796973fpbp
>>108796580Funny enough, hating Git: https://tuomov.iki.fi/software/
>>108797445People are allowed to use and distribute whatever release of your software you put out there, you unbelievably brainfucked transjeet leafnigger. No one is forcing you to look at bug reports for old versions. Simply walk away from your computer and ignore the invalid reports. No one's problem but your own.
>>108797427I need to put out a tiktok explaining that you need to enable full telemetry on gnome, and perhaps also suggest a scrambler so the details are mangled enough they can't be filtered. Title "how to help the linux community"
>>108797456keep asking but if someone patches your software you don't get to cry about it when it's compatible with your license
>>108797386kek, I can see that happening.Though to be fair Mint was created as a protest distro against Ubuntu so it always was the contrarian choice to Ubuntu.
>>108795124Stop using UIs they're all compromised.
>>108797445You're either drunk or Indian. Please reconsider posting until either of these problems have been resolved.
You could make a documentary about GNOME devs. Wretched little specimens.
>>108797386>>108797500Clem has been the Linux equivalent of pic related for years, doing what (according to him) makes using Linux easier without caring about the politics behind it and basing his opinions of people and software on how useful and convenient are for Linux Mint. Gone are the days of him telling jews not to use Mint because of their war with Palestine. If cuckduke made a video about this, Clem would probably tell him to fuck off with his outrage bait and to stop bringing more drama to Mint.
>>108797456then you just ban themThey literally have convicted child rapists in their rows. Just say that you don't support child rape and ban them. Really simple. And the more annoying Gnome tards get, the more likely it is for this sword of damocles to fall down on them.Gnome being tards in their own spaces is one thing... spaming in other communities a different one.
>>108793996No one 'forgot'But Ubuntu is now effectively unusable it's so slow due to snapd and Linux Mint is still just a fly-by-night Ubuntu clone with old Gnome.
my mfw when still using Orage with OpenBox and a notebook
>>108797382Bro you're retarded.
>>108797800Fr fr no cap, this unc based AF, on God yo.
>Welcome to my personal website! My name is Hari Rana (pronounced as Harry). I’m a 24-year-old transgender developer and content writer from Montréal, Canada, and use any/all pronounsWhat a surprise.
>>108797800Honestly, regardless of what his personal politics are, I appreciate the non-political, highly pragmatic approach. Well suited to software. Politics in software should be about software related concerns like copyright, pirating, free software, free expression (code is speech), etc not "hot button political stance for current year"
>>108797838Imagine using any OS released after 2017.It's like you want to use jeetware.I'll be on W10 LTSC for the foreseeable future.
>>108797945Orage is a calendar, you nitwit ultrafaggot shillcuck.
>>108797890> Well suited to softwareThe "we just don't care about politics and allow everyone" projects were the first to get hijacked by troons. They are highly vulnerable. Mint probably fairs well because they are a protest distro that forked Gnome 3, while still being downstream of gtk.The problem is that they are tolerable towards people who want to change them.When you are hard non-politicial and someone comes around with the explicit goal to make you political... should you accept them?The Gnometard opened the issue in bad faith. He was never interested in an actual solution. Yet they spent time talking to him and assumed good faith where there is none.If Linux Mint would do the right thing, this Gnometard wouldn't have been able to open this issue. They would have shown him the door.And there are projects that do this. I have seen it plenty of times, mostly with applications developed from one or two people. Get idiotic tranny issue -> close it as offtopic and never even discuss it.
>>108793187>to give you an idea of the magnitude of the problem: we have fixed over 450 bugs since that version, and we solve about 50 more issues each release on averageIt's a calendar. Why does a calendar have 450 bugs per year?
>>108797991Fuck off retard. Issue report wasn't political. Responses weren't political. Stop injecting your headcanon into this. Clem is based. You're not, and never will be. Get over it.
>>108798013Not written in Rust
>>108798013GNOMEcucks break their own software multiple times a year and spend enormous amounts of time debating whether or not to merge fixes.
>>108798013they applications are broken by design. just like the people who develop them.
>>108798019lets think:>nobody knows if this issue even exists, no example is provided>a search for "mint" in their issue tracker reveals 22 items IN SIX YEARS, less than four bug reports PER YEAR>when asked about those, the tranny deflects and says that its actually about social media as well>again with no example providedIt should have ended right here. Fuck off. Closed with "Not A Bug".. But hey, lets assume good faith and pretend that it is actually an issue, so....>we got it upstream from Debian, tell them>tranny specifically and explicitly doesn't want it resolved upstream, he only picks MintAgain: Should have stopped it right there. Obviously the troon isn't interested in a solution, give him a link to the Debian bugtracker, issue closed.But alright, lets keep assuming good faith as the good non-political people we are!>troon claims that Debian users don't do this, yet, a search for "debian" on their issue tracker reveals TWICE as many bug reports as for "mint"He is LITERALLY FUCKING LYING IN YOUR FACE.But lets not jump to conclusions here! Assuming good faith everybody, be non-political!>troon says it is your responsibility to communicate with Debian, not his>troon says that he gets contacted on Matrix a lot about it. But Matrix isn't even linked in the App, which is what he complains about.Now that the troon let it slip that it is about controlling the distribution, and not about the links at all. Now you close it with "you chose the wrong license, you want to be proprietary".It is way too late! It was obvious at the very first moment six months ago.Why debate those people?
Can't believe Hari Kiri wasn't CoCd for those posts, I'd have closed and reported xir for abusive and hostile messages
>>108798144>If you don't engage and talk with a dishonest troon, who wants to harm you, you are just as bad as they are!>You want me to close a bug with "Not A Bug", because it is not a bug? But the reporter is a holy troon! By doing so, we would be just as bad as they are!>Yes, they make up things and lied to me, but that is not a reason to reject them, because we need to take the glorious trans people serious!If someone who isn't trans would open an issue and pretend that something happens, that verifiable doesn't happen, and lie, he would close the issue straight away.At least i hope he would, otherwise he will have a pretty crappy time.
>>108793757>You basically just queue up all of your system maintenance rather than dealing with it piecemeal like in a rolling release.This is the new hot meme tgat updooters are parroting recently, but everyone who actually uses point release distros knows to be blatantly false.Reminder that there are still people who believe you need to reinstall a point release distro to upgrade to a new major release (until recently, even the Gentoo wiki claimed this).
>>108796729Based, i love linux mint (used it for a very long time now as my main)
>>108798225nta, but they get that impression because packages in the Debian "stable" repository are often times very unstable.If they would freeze packages at a specific point in time, to the last available stable versions, and then keep those for a release cycle, that would be great.But Debian doesn't do that. Here is an example of a package unusable in Debian:https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=sourcenames&keywords=rssguardDebian bookworm, trixie and forky are at the exact same version 4.0.4 for RSSGuard.4.0.4 is from five years ago. At the time of the release of trixie, it was at 4.8.6, yet trixie shipped with the same 4.0.4 that bookworm shipped.And i know why: Because its package maintainer left Debian and nobody picked up the torch. It is the same one who maintained KDE packages.So Debian ends up with abandoned packages in the repository. And they keep dragging those along for multiple release cycles.IF Debian would be interested in only providing stable packages, they would throw those out. If you can't ship a stable version, because you kicked out your maintainers, don't ship it at all. If you install something from the debian stable repository, there is a good chance that you install one or the other package that simply is not being maintained at all.
readiing up on this GNOME hates Mint because it is successful?
>>108797382>yes, and since they own the project they can say when is not freely.And what they say is that it's available under GPL.
>>108797407Indiatroon please consider sudoku
>>108793739>But if you do have to get a newer release of something that is only in sid or whatever, 50% chance something just fucking breaks.anon, you're NOT supposed to mix stable and unstable, it's officially acknowledged as a retarded ideahttps://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian#Don.27t_make_a_FrankenDebianyou have 3 options>stick to whatever is available in stable>switch to unstable (sid/ceres) full time>install appimage/flatpak versions instead (or just build it yourself)
>>108796210>why wont these distribution just drop gnome(((red hat))) has too much power
>>108796491>All of this shit with "DO AS I SAY" GNOME politics and "If you use GTK as a dependency then we own your whole project and can tell you what to do and what you think" is a new development from the last 10 years or so.you can thank the (((OSI))) for thisStallman was right as usual
>>108796655>terminally online jeettranny goes out of ITS way to see people talk about shitty gnomeware on social media>REEEEEEEE FUCK YOU MINT REEEEEEEMint should just pull some malicious compliance and blacklist gnome in its entirety
>>108797166*itstart calling trannies itthey are monsters, not humans
>>108798326>and nobody picked up the torchwhat are you doing on 4chan, golinux?
>>108793187>I am still regularly on the receiving end of Linux Mint users complaining on our bug tracker (and social media) about things that have been fixed aeons agoby removing the features that had the bugs right
>>108797805Not just a child rapist. A child predator. AKA cannot be reformed and actively poses a threat.
>>108798465He already served his time, so the fact that he's a GNOME developer disgusts me more.
>>1087984695'7 and 180 lbs isn't even as bad as being a GNOME dev, and I hate fat people.
>>108793187>Go to https://fosstodon.org/@TheEvilSkeleton@treehouse.systems>Queer Indian developer from Montréal, Canada :3Stupid unemployed queer jeet
>>108797428>>108797400>RMS makes the Free Software Foundation in the 1980s with the intention of making and promoting software that respects the four freedoms>corporations subvert the movement from the inside by prompting "open source" instead, convincing people that the four freedoms don't matter (only that the source code is on GitHub) and conduct a 30-year long smear campaign against RMS which includes robbing him of all the credit for his OS>"omg why doesn't RMS support open source corpoware ??? it must be LE HECKIN' AUTISMOS o algo"Nu-/g/ is braindead.
>>108797359>>108797382kys troon
Jeet and tranny into one.
>>108798122A perfect rundown.
>>108797301Imagine doing all that shit manually when you can just have an AI make a script to do the same thing in 5 seconds.
>>108799586Imagine using an AI botnet glownigger virus when you can do something yourself in 5 seconds.
>>108793347Not at all. The "stable" in debian has always meant "doesn't change" and not "doesn't break". Specifically it meant that sysadmins would create a patch against known breakage in debian, and debian would not fix the bug so the patch would keep working for a long time.
>>108797838>my mfw when>my my face when whenishygddt>costanza.jpeg
>>108799630For the most part, Stable = Predictable behavior, yes. A byproduct of this is significantly less breakage than a system that sees drastic changes periodically or sporadically.
>>108799621AI will be an upgrade to current Guhnome devs thobeit.It will be like a panacea, an anti bacterial to ALL powertripping dumbasses in open source projects.>Gemini, can you code back in all the features gnome removed in the latest update?>Kimi, can you disable all the age verification spyware that got added to SystemD?Authorial control of software will be gone and no-coders will rule the day and be free to veto whatever they want.
>>108799700Except in "recent" years (i.e. post-2013), that has never been the case. Ubuntu and OpenSuSE used to be FAR more stable than debian in day-to-day use in the sense of "things don't break". Partly this is because bugs tend to be fixed as versions progress. But also, debian used to issue really bad patches to a few software.
>add a field to the request that includes the version of gnome calendar being used and what platform it's running on>filter out any bug reports that don't have the field and isn't from the version you wantwow, that was hard
>>108793280>Gnome is a lesbian gay bisexual transexual interrobang
>>108793980What's funnier is that even Fedora users hate Gnome. The KDE spin was so popular they had to make it an official version with the same level of support as the Gnome version. And it keeps increasing in popularity. Every time I see someone recommend Fedora they always specify the Plasma version. Lmao.
>>108797277Isn't wow64 wine stable ? Why do you still need lib32?
>>108799806For obvious reasons. KDE is trash. The last good DEs were gnome 2 and KDE 3.5.10. KDE 4 was literally unusable. KDE 5 is at least usable, though buggy and slow compared to what we once had.But at least it's not the fucking foot.
>>108800130Debian, at least, requires that you use only wine32 in system (so you need to use something like POL or lutris to get correct wine installs). There is a 64-bit package but it's just a command line utility that tells you to install the 32-bit version instead.
>>108800130steam. even with the new 64 bit client beta, games don't work without lib32.
>>108800187All of the popular Fedora forks are KDE default too. Nobara, Bazzite, etc. Lmao.
>>108793187>calendareat shit faggot
>>108800240Yes, again for obvious reasonsEven the diehard footfags can't handle the foot these days. You love to see it.
>>108796694That sucks, and I don't even need to do anything like that. I just need to mark some vacations and birthdays and such, and it doesn't work
>>108797386i can't stand that guy as much as i can't stand rainbow flags and cock cutting propaganda inside of projects. Politics shouldn't belong in this context, it's not like owning the libs puts you on some moral pedistal
>>108796694>>108800386Thunderbird works beautifully with local and remote calendars, and Orage handles local calendar perfectly. Both support exporting and importing to/from common formats, and are quite reliable. GNOME Calendar is mostly geared toward handling calendars from online accounts (e.g. Google and WebDAV sources), and is fine for those purposes, but lacking in other areas.GNOME != Open Source in its entirety.
>>108800474>it's not like owning the libs puts you on some moral pedistalit does, though
>>108800502it doesn't because it's not really an us vs them battle as much as the media jews wants you to believe, i may not like rainbow flags AND also every chud in my neighborhood being able to purchase an automatic firearm. Heated useless cultural battles like that just end up destroying foss altogether and guess who gains from that? megacorps
I use KDE Kontact with all its stuff. Kmail, KOrganizer and whatever.It's not the most beautiful thing in the world, but it covers all my use cases. It can do all the PGP stuff, signing and encrypting with whatever options you want and Kleopatra is good at managing keyrings and the Calendar can do everything you want it to do.All those nu-Apps with their castrated functionalities and gmail like interfaces can suck my dick.
Why doesn't Gnome have an LTS release?Doesn't Red Hat one?
>>108800573Owning the libs does put you on a pedestal.Of course you are still part of the idiotic system, playing a fake and gay cultural war. You could call it a controlled opposition. BUT you are still better than the others within that system.Someone who is caught by a controlled opposition is much more likely to see the light eventually, than someone who is pacified cattle.
>linux mint is built on top of ubuntu>lmde is built on top of debian>if linux mint removes it from their repos, it will be grabbed from the ubuntu/debian repos instead>this anime tranny wants them to blacklist the package namethey should tell him to kill himself
>>108800649>blacklistdenylist*
>>108800624so you think it's worth btfoing 90% of the manpower of foss (very conservative) just because your jew of choice is trying to chop an conquer your niche.americans are such an interesting species
this is transphobic
uh oh. tranny on sewerslide watch
>>108800649This is when I would have lost it too. Completely reveals how utterly illogical the demand is in one post.
>>108796422>pic
>>108800709Bro, it's a tranny. What did you expect? Did you fall for the psyop of trannies can program and are better than w*men and all that crap? Shit's not even human.
>>108800624you realize that "owning the libs" is nothing more than going against small time underdogs victims of the DEI system (which was mainly fabricated to humanize israeli and finance sector's interference, as if "philantropy" has ever been a thing), will improve anything? You are just pouring fuel into the fire.Also they are not even trying to play with that shit anymore, the trannies that remain are just the scar of a decade of social and economic degeneracy.
>>108800665>>108800749Getting the child rapist, who went on other projects to demand that "nazis get banned", fired from Canonical was definitelly a great thing.And that wouldn't have happened without Lunduke.If you like it or not, owning the libs IS actually BETTER than either being pacified or being a lib.It is an objective improvment.Is it still fake and gay? Yes. Is Lunduke a shitty kike? Yes.But it is better.
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>>108800886>>108800749Also the child rapist was literally a military plant who only got away with such a lenient sentence for raping children because he serfed as a zogbot and he got his job at Canonical because he is a zogbot.This is not a "small time underdog victim", its a fucking corporate zog platn.
>>108800889Bruh this person is mentally a 12yo, does HRT cause brain calcification like lead fumes?
>>108800897>>108800886i apologize, i didn't know that piece of the story, but looking it up on ddg and google only lunduke stuff comes up, i wouldn't exclude mainstream media covering up this shit, but do you also trust lunduke?
>>108798122But now the troon looks dumb and it's funnier
>>108801001Troon would have reopened an issue or brought in a hate mob, would have probably been even funnier.
>>108798654And to no one's surprise, the xaar is already seething for being told to GTFO by Mint's devs.
>>108795441All german devs I've worked with get butt hurt super easily.
>>108801160
>>108801160>kick out the rightwing>where did all the people go?
It has to be a comedy. Nobody is that incapable of basic math. even trisomy retards can figure out when people are leaving a ballgame.
>>108800749>going against small time underdogs victims of the DEI systemSuch a ridiculous sentence. Or maybe you don't know what "underdog" means. They are janissaries.Since you probably don't know what that is either, muslim arabs would kidnap and enslave white christian boys, brainwash them and convert them to islam, forced celibacy and castration. They were then used as the closest guard and elite soldiers. The alienation from family, celibacy/castration and brainwashing made them very complacent, loyal to the empire and sadistic toward their former countrymen. There's no saving them because they have not only been brainwashed, they have been maimed, and they will always die for the system because that's the only power they can ever have now.
>>108800978Well has Lunduke been caught lying before? You can disagree with his stances or beliefs, but I think most of what he reports on is literally something that has happened or is happening. Not liking someone or thinking that they're wrong doesn't mean they're a liar. I haven't seen an example of him being like "Ebussy threatened me in a dark alleyway while I was visiting Shitaly" or something.Also, there are images like this (I'd have to check sex offender registries myself to know if its not photoshoop'd but I've never seen anyone claim this image is falsified)>>108798465
>>108801162This just means that you are stupid.Stupidity in general is bluntly pointed out and not tolerated in Germany.
>>108793187Doesn't this kind of aggressive behavior violate CoC?
>>108801383I downloaded a PDF from the Florida state sex offender registry and screencapped it.https://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/sops/flyer.jsf?personId=85068You'll need a VPN to view it if you're from outside the US.
>>108793187>anime avatar is a retard on the internet>somehow /g/ has a 200+ reply thread about it
Also here's a transcript from a court hearing where Bicha's victim, his sister, described in full detail just how fucked in the head this guy is.https://files.catbox.moe/4q8nd9.pdf
>>108801378>janissariesI was looking into this and starting reading the wikipedia about devshirme. One notable line was>Jews were exempt from this service
>>108800748I simply conveyed that I would have dropped any pretense of civility in response to a specific post. How did you draw any of the conclusions you just spewed out? Are you on meth?>I would have lost it at that post.>Bro tranny psyop brainwashing w*men and you really drank the kool-aid? Unbelievable.Slow your roll.
>>108801497>anime avatarand a jeetand a trannyand a refugee living in canadaand unemployedand Gnome member
>>108801450>Why don't you get butthurt, like we do in Germany
>>108793187I dunno why mint doesn't just use lxqt instead of persisting with their gnome fork. I also think they should forget about fixing Ubuntu and focus on their Debian derived version
>>108801500Very interesting. He born '84, this document is from 2013, so he was 29 then. Why are they talking about juvenile? Because supposedly he was 12-16 when he molested (both) and raped (one) his sister(s) (at the time 8-12). However this was known by the parents and allowed to continue. It was a very abusive childhood in many ways, with them being beaten by the father.Now 13 years later the sisters gang up and decided to press charges. Against the dad the beat them and enabled the molestation? No. Against the complacent mother? No. Against the underage brother. Frankly this is a case of a pervert in his early teens enabled by a abusive household. Better than being a gnome dev
>>108801796>Better than being a gnome devBut he *is* a GNOME dev. You can find his name in some recent GIMP changelogs.
>>108801796>why didnt they report it before, hurr durrrrIt is literally in the court documents. The defense team of the sdubhuman did raise this question and it got answered. You are free to read them.And since you claim to know so much about the case... it is curious that you didn't read those. Somehow you know all this stuff, but only selectively what fits your zogbot worship.He had a girlfriend and was about to have children and the victims talked about it with each other, told each other what they experienced, got some other people involved to talk about it and decided that it should not be possible for the monster to do to those children what he did to them.
>>108801796>hurr durr, the household is responsible for this!!!!>hurr durr, the nigger had to steal because of society!!!>hurr durr, the negro hat to slice the throat of the white women in the public bus because he was in an abusive society
>>108801922Slightly off topic, but I've always found people excusing rape with socioeconomic factors to be especially funny. >Damn nigga I'm broke. Gotta go find a member of the marginalized sex (#solidarity) and violently violate them in a way that's entirely self-gratifying and doesn't make my situation any better while ruining someone else's life.
>>108801796Courts are fucked, a significantly long-nosed lawyer can and has argued that 25 year olds should be judged in juvie at the standards of a 12 year old because "dey are mentally unwell". and judges buy it.
>>108801383>Well has Lunduke been caught lying before? Lunduke doesn't lie but he does sensationalize and clickbait. Turning issues about unrelated things into this idea of an open source culture war to get clicks.Now, people can argue that EVERYBODY does this, Brodie, who is Lunduke's lefty counterpart, does this even worse than he does. You can't argue that he doesn't present the truth because it is the truth, just clickbait.
i don't care about any of what you weirdos are writing, but gnome sucks because you need plugins to do the most basic things and the ui wastes space in an attempt to support form factors that nobody would ever use gnome for. thank you for your attention to this matter
>>108800978It goes so much deeper than you think.Jeremy Bicha became an Ubuntu maintainer during his military service where he worked for the Naval Computer and Telecommunications Station Bahrain.He is living close to MacDill Air Force Base. That is a very comfy air force base hosting CENTCOM and DISA Central Field Command. Pic related is a document made there.Jeremy Bicha was the middleman between Canonical and the US Air Force in Florida.The same state and air force that also operates Eglin, the internet shilling unit.The people who "just own the libs" themselves can't even grasp what they did here.
>>108802020And of course all his internet profiles are about activism and fighting those evil nazis. A fucking military zogbot maintaining their internet-shilling unit.
>>108802020lmao? Now this is actually interesting. The fact he became a maintainer while serving military is especially noteworthy. I guess I'm not too surprised Ubuntu has tons of fed ties. I might need to look more into Canonical and if they are completely untrustworthy or just suspicious.
>>108802014> but gnome sucks because you need plugins to do the most basic things and the ui wastes space in an attempt to support form factors that nobody would ever use gnome for.No you're right, combine this with awful performance and the fact the people who wrote it apparently only ever use Touchscreens, and it becomes a question of why anyone would willingly use GNOME. I'm still convinced most of its users are a captive audience of corporate users who asked for Linux laptops and are now stuck.
>>108802041His idea of poverty is probably normal college life.
>>108802065How is that noteworthy? You basically do zero work in the military.
>>108801160lmao
>>108802106do not redeem the cock sir
>>108801160>>108801171The level of entitlement holy shit lmao>YOU need to figure out a way to get people using OUR app to bother YOU instead of US for bugs in OUR app!!
>>108801160this person seems to have no idea how software development works when others are involved or how the GPL works in generalwhy dont they just remove the links to report bugs? or have their bug submission require a version number (can even be prefilled from the button in the program) and have an autoreply/autoclose message that tells the user to upgrade if it's out of date?>no, never would we go aft3er Debian or Ubuntu over thiswhy? the problem is in the versions those distros distribute too. what makes them special?
>>108801160There's still no good rebuttal for why it's particularly Mint and not Debian or Ubuntu. The "only Mint users file bug reports to us" is complete bullshit and proves the tranny just has an axe to grind.
>>108802065What you want to look for is whether or not a company offers "Confirmed Stateside Support", "ITAR-compliance" or similar, and from where they offer this.Those are a part of glowfag required clearance.It guarantees that when you make a business with a three-letter agency or military, everything involved is and stays within the USA between people with clearances.Feds need this.In example: RedHat maintains the NSA servers on which they run PRISM and all that other stuff Snowden revealed.https://access.redhat.com/articles/3375791And pic related is Canonical advertising ITAR compliance, which is strictly for the military.They openly admit it, they just word it nicely. Instead of:>the NSA is our customer :Dthey write>we comply with requirements and have the necessary clearances for government contractors
>>108802092He's probably paid for by 5 or 6 intelligence agencies.
>>108797991Identity Politics =/= Organizational Politics. Not that they can't intertwine, but it isn't in this case.Especially in FOSS you absolutely need to care about organizational politics. This kind of thing is what started Mint in the first place. You *don't* need to care about politics irrelevant to software and its maintenance though.
>>108800660*niggerlist
>>108802161You also need ITAR and EAR compliance if you work in civil aerospace. Compliance doesn't automatically make your shit glow, it's a huge pain in the ass. America wields ITAR and EAR like a cudgel.
>>108802020 (Me)And i think the only reason why Canonical bent the knee to Lunduke and kicked out the child rapist, was because Jeremy Bicha became worthless.The laws about registered sexual predators in Florida are super strict.>move into the vicinity of a school -> have to call the school and report your presence>move location -> have to go to the nearest police station and tell them that you are a predator who is nearby>visit a venue where children are -> have to report to the nearest cops and to the owners of the venue>if he doesn't report his status himself, and some other person knows about it, and this other person isn't reporting him to the police, this other person is liable as well!If you have people from the outside know about this and following Jeremy Bicha around... he can't do shit!At some point he WILL mess up and he WILL fail to report himself, and someone of his new internet friends WILL watch him and report him.How is this guy going to continue working for Canonical? He became a never-ending liability to them.There wasn't any other option than to remove him.No amount of ZOG protection helps here, the pawn needs to get sacrificed.
>>108802252There isn't a single civil aerospace company in the USA that isn't a military contractor.If you work for Boeing, you are a zogbot.ITAR literally stands for:>International Traffic in Arms RegulationsIt says in the name: It is about arms.
>>108802276You're a retarded nigger with no knowledge of the industry, keep howling into the wind about your personal canon conspiracy theories to detract from the most obvious fucking shit happening in front of everyone's faces.
>>108802302I accept your concessionIf you don't deal with feds, you don't have to follow those requirements.In the USA, you got all those fed-intertwined companies that act as the private executive of the government.Think about the vax mandate for feds and fed-contractors they had during CoViD.Suddenly a sizeable amount of the US population had to either get vaxxed or get fired. Even when they were working for "private companies", because those "private companies" were just downstream of feds.Yes, Lockheed Martin glows.Yes, Boeing glows.Yes, Northrop Funman glows.Those are your "civil aerospace" companies.
>>108802334Lots of contractors rode out the vax mandate at risk of getting fired before the administration relented. There are more companies than the biggest MIC corporations you can name, particularly small businesses which do niche jobs but still have to comply with ITAR.
>OP is about Mint dev telling GNOME faggots to shove it>it devolves into the Bicha problem>ends on some genuinely intriguing schizoposting about ties of Red Hat, Canonical and Bicha to the US governmentNow that's the type of wild ride that this site's been known for.
>>108802354>There are more companies than the biggest MIC corporations you can nameBut not in the "civil aerospace" industry. Which is what you were talking about.You will hardly find a single company in this sector in the USA hat isn't also building bombs or stuff that drops bombs.So Canonical, the guys running a Linux distro, follow the same clearances and requirements as the guys building a B-2 bomber...
>>108796316imagine being on the same side as gn*me only for your "allies" to shut down your work anyway the left truly exist only by cannibalizing itself into irrelevance
>>108802381Civil aerospace was implied, but I guess I shouldn't have expected you to have enough intelligence to infer that much. The problem is that you want to live in your constructed narrative, where you've uncovered all the deepest truths, instead of recognizing that reality is already bleak. Since you live in your own fantasy, you are incapable of understanding the nuance and complexity that exists in a world of 8 billion people, or even just a country of over 300 million people. There are niches within the industry that don't necessitate military contracts. If you want to play the game of "oh, but you contract with entities that also contract with the military", you will be very hard pressed to find any company in America that isn't separated by 2 degrees from the MIC.
>>108802445In the case of Canonical we know that they deal with the military.>https://canonical.com/blog/disa-stig-ubuntu-22-04-lts>Developed by Canonical and DISA for the DODSo whatever bullshit you are ranting about is completely irrelevant anyway.Kill yourself, fed.>inb4 but but i am not a fed, i am working for the civilian private company called Raytheon!
>>108796316I stopped using Gentoo in... 2018? A bit earlier? Because it became an unstable mess due to trannies taking over. Before then it was possible to setup your useflags however you liked and you didn't have to update every 3 days or risk needing to nuke the entire system to change a single package. After trannies, it became totally unusable. They also kept removing package features without documenting it, and when asked about it, they'd say "I don't use it so you shouldn't either". People would point out USE flags exist for a reason and they'd get super pissed of course.Trannies aside, I have never once seen anything even remotely resembling a white nat or nazi anywhere near gentoo channels.
>>108802475>Because it became an unstable mess due to trannies taking over.This is what they view as "Progress". To them, you're the white supremacist loser because you stopped using it, and will always be lumped in with the Nazis because of that. They also believe that all of them went to an ubuntu fork like Linux Mint because the boogeyman must never actually die, it must only change forms to their next convenient target. >People would point out USE flags exist for a reason and they'd get super pissed of course.>Trannies aside, I have never once seen anything even remotely resembling a white nat or nazi anywhere near gentoo channels.And now, the justification is literally "Only Nazis used the USE flags". With all tranny-controlled spaces, it doesn't matter if actual nazis or white supremacists exist, only that the illusion of them existing does. From now until forever, the fact the Trannies CoC'd their way into the project and ruined everything won't be known as the reason Gentoo became unstable, but because the Nazis abandoned it after the creators got sick of it being "The Nazi Bar" (this is the justification to ruin everything, every project, btw).
>>108802475I left it around 2015 or 16.And i never interacted with their community outside of bug reports.It became uncomfy to use. Stuff broke more often and larger applications released updates faster (firefox monthly schedule). It was not enjoyable anymore.
>>108802475I saw a thread the other day about how it's actually not violating the CoC to deny people who have a Russian locale on their computer from using their software. Some of the later responses are more reasonable, but the initial reaction from the Gentoo maintainers was pretty gayhttps://bugs.gentoo.org/964663
>>108802532Yes exactly. I learned about the trannies only because it became broken as shit so I had a look at the community to see if anyone was saying something or thinking of fixing it. As you surely know by now, trannies don't like to hide their "status" so it was easier to find that out than to find out if there was any plan to make things more stable and stop random reorgs every 5 seconds.
>>108801160>In this case, Linux Mint is leeching off of DebianReally goes to show you what kind of a mindset faggot tranny GNOME devs have when they consider a downstream/derivative open source project (which is, you know, part of the spirit of FOSS in the first place) to be "leeching".
>>108802577Kek, reading this is a trip. My favorite is this:>I'm not sure I'm convinced by arguments about "discrimination". no attacks against any *people* were made, either by the software upstream or by Gentoo packaging it. And one is of course free to not use it.Discrimination is actually Ok because they did the 4chan thing of putting """"""""""""""""People"""""""""""""""" in quotes
>>108801160>they even play the "you chose the wrong license" cardbut choosing a different license would indeed solve his problem?
>>108795666>>108798326>Debian kicked out "nazis" many years ago and are still objectively worse and never manage to make up for it.>>108802532>>108802475>Gentoo kicked out "nazis" ten years ago, became objectively worse and never managed to make up for it.It really shows you how important those "nazis" actually are. We are talking about a decade here. All those years and they are still not able to find and non-nazi to produce the same quality. The timeframe is so large, if they would have chosen a 8yo child to train for the position, it would be grown up and ready now.
>>108800474>>108800573It does because society is done tolerating their bs. But also libs are doubly indefensible in tech because they have institutional power. Defending them is like defending Elon Musk because you really like Grok and dogecoin.Lunduke does this jewish thing though where he pretends to be moderate then proceeds to out the wrong people on behalf of our community.We're past "lets just forget our differences and enjoy tech", I want open source options that aren't owned by people who want me dead. Either they have to be removed from their positions or we need to develop something to their exclusion.
>>108802466Take it back to the psych ward you dumb nigger :3
