What children have credit cards or bitcoin?
>>108797743I mean we all know the shitty paid ones are probably being used by kids, but paid ones should be assumed to be used by adults by default.
>>108797751app stores/browser extensions are full of questionably secure free VPNs
>>108797743Honestly I don't care, all of this age verification bs started happening only after I became an adult and even then it's easy to avoid giving my real life ID to services that demand it. Zoomers need to step the fuck up and become at least half as tech literate as the previous generations instead of smartphone babies that don't know what a file extension is
>>108797756Yeah the vernier on this identity verification bs is literally wearing off before they can even implement it. There are so many ways to out yourself as an adult without giving up ID.
>>108797756Fuck, I meant the shitty unpaid ones.
>>108797764VPN services aren't secure. Only if you own the servers a VPN makes sense, otherwise it's a trojan horse.
>>108797814because its not about protecting childdren its about tracking what you are doing and censorship but if they say its to protect the children they can call you a pedo for disagreeing with it so its not opposed because people are scared of that word. it happened in the uk parliament
Why are they so obsessed with catching pedos when they are all pedos themselves?
>>108797743More proof Europe is on a decline.
>>108797814>>108797814Please refrain from making antisemitic remarks.
>>108797743Yes we have to "protect" the "children" behind 7 proxies.
>>108797743They need to Russia is tryting to undermine their democracies spamming via them. It's not necesaary if they kill all of fsb and glavset though.
>>108797936more proof you are gay and retarded
>>108797814Because they are the ones doing it.>>108797934They feel guilting for abusing children so they have to masquerade as if they care. It's yet another example of what someone rallies hardest against they are themselves guilty of.
>>108797766>all of this age verification bs started happening only after I became an adult"fuck you, I got mine" boomer-tier response
>>108797743I always thought "think of the children" was a stupid slogan but when you frame it in the light that the people pushing for "think of the children" are the same pedophiles who run the world and that all of this age verification stuff just gives them a ready made database of children they can prey on, it makes it all even funnier than before. And people still fall for it. Bizarre.
>>108797814cool it with the antisemitism
Only criminals are against this.
>>108797766KYS NEO-BOOMER
>>108797743>kids increasingly using vpnsthis fails a basic logic test. kids are in roblox and addicted to coomer gacha games. they don't even know what a website is. they're spending their money on primagems, not vpns. why don't you protect kids from what's actually harming them?
/EP_EPRS/status/2015764158260682927#marchive.is/kU6eyhttps://gyo.tc/1v9Etlink.europa.eu/FGfr6C -> www.europarl.europa.eu/thinktank/en/document/EPRS_ATA(2026)782618 -> www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/ATAG/2026/782618/EPRS_ATA(2026)782618_EN.pdf -> anonpaste.com/share/388c62b6cf#gbX9E5IXoaY1Nzw>>108799374>"why don't you protect kids from what's actually harming them?"this
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>>108797743>>108799415>>108799428censoredplanet.org/papers/VPN-Survey-USENIX23.pdfanonpaste.com/share/f4f5ef54e7
>>108797743Fuck kids I don't give a shit about them
>>108797766I'm 34 and do not want to provide any information to verify my identity or age. I grew up with an Internet that didn't care about any of this shit, and I want it to stay the same way it was when I was a teen. >But what if a minor gets to see porn on the InternetA. I don't give a fuck. A little porn never killed aboutB. It's the parents fault for not installing parental controls on the device they gave their kids.
>>108800027Fucking phone autocorrect turned anyone into about. Fucking hate smartphones so much
>>108797766The issue is that the EU is a dangerous mix or corrupt and retarded.Every reason why this shit won't work, won't help, will be bypassed easily and why just declaring the technologies that allow bypassing it illegal isn't feasible has been presented to them by top cryptography researchers, including one of the co-authors of AES. They don't care. Facebook's lobby groups pay them more and they brand everyone who disagrees with them as a chilraping money laundering terrorist - and you wouldn't want to oppose laws that fight those, would you?!
>>108797814>[Deleted]that means it's true
>>108797743GENUINELY WHO THE FUCK IS BUYING THIS BULLSHIT? ARE THEY EVEN TRYING TO BE SUBTLE? I would have thought this whole justification of "think of the children" was memed to death so that nobody takes it seriously anymore.Besides, I'd wager most kids have no idea how VPNs work or how to use them.
these are the morons you want passing legislation to "stop killing games" btw
>>108800256They haven't passed anything in these regards.
>>108797743If you have nothing to hide, this won't affect you at all.
>>108797764How do children have unsupervised access to smartphones and PCs? Oh right because the """parents""" are subhuman failures that should be sterilized and the kids taken away.
>>108800382That's great looking forward to you posting your>Full Name>Date of birth>Place of birth>Current address>Current employer>Full copy of all emails>Full copy of all chats>Full copy of your hard drives>Full copy of your browsing history>Full copy of the last three months of all accessed IPs with port, timestamp, connection durationYou have nothing to hide right?
>>108800027You know the most funny statistic in all of this, you know where most kids accidentally saw porn? Instagram, YouTube, Twitter, and other socials, not actual porn sites.
>>108800415>government: has my best interests in mind and bound by law>anon: anarchic and wants to ruin my life because i dared to disagreeFalse equivalence.
>>108800465not him but god damn your retarded, go be a sheep somewhere else. tying your identity to all online use isn't for your best interests its so they can control all communication same as dictators have always done
>>108800465>>government: has my best interests in mind and bound by lawLol, lmao even
>>108797785And where will you host it? Amazon's server where they have local access to it? And then pretend it is somehow secure?
>>108800465Oh you think the database won't get leaked for some reason? You're comfortable giving that data to the government and by extension actual real criminals but not me who is advocating against giving criminals this data? Interesting.
>>108800465>government: has my best interests in mind and bound by lawholy kek
>>108800556The government and "real criminals" are two distinct categories?
>>108797743Please protect the children, I'm begging you!
>>108800561>government: has my best interests in mind and bound by lawI'm clearly talking to a subhuman troglodyte with probably a single digit IQ I tried to phrase it in a way he might understand.
>>108799491>Fuck kidsIf you say so
I'm out of the loop. Why would anyone need a vpn to lie on a website asking if you're 18+? Europoor but haven't seen any changes on the web either.
>>108800682It's not gonna be that way for much longer, you're gonna use your EU online ID and you will like it.
>>108800693Principally what I mean is that, before the vpn shit even becomes relevant, shouldn't there be online age verification shit going on? I don't know of any EU regulation that has taken effect yet on this topic. Lately the EU has stopped sucking hard and has been a lot more reasonable with the regulations that are accepted, so I would be surprised of any such thing has passed or would pass in a 10 year horizon or so. Of course, that'll never stop the anglos or germans from proposing absolute insanity at all times.
>>108800704>has been a lot more reasonableUntrue all you do is demand tribute while contributing nothing. Conducting state backed espionage to enrich your citizens something not even Russia does. You are by far the most corrupt group of people on the planet and I am keeping 100% of the equity for the technology I developed alone with zero input from any EU citizens
>>108800704actually it's France Spain and Denmark who are usually trying to push these laws
>>108797743And? What are you going to do about it? Crying on the internet? No one gives a fuck. The law will come and you can't do anything to prevent it. Deal with it.
>>108800556At least if this whole EU verification thing works as intended, it should be entirely local to the device you verify on, just some token that goes 'yup, this is an adult' and yeah, it's probably fingerprintable to some extent, but there won't be some central database with all your IDs on it. Now this is what they are promising, and it should be open source so people can verify it's not sneakily uploading your details anywhere. I'm not saying it's going to be perfect, or they won't end up sneakily uploading your details to some DB in some closed source component buried in the app. But in theory we should be "safe" from breaches like that. Blah blah blah, face value, grain of salt, all the usual boilerplates.
>>108800382You have a camera in your bedroom? No? Why not, what do you have to hide?
>>108800256Stop killing games isn't a privacy violation, and it doesn't harm game companies in any meaningful way, other than preventing them from increasing profits by planned obsolescence.
>>108800256Looking at the California SKG bill all it would force companies to do is to enable people that purchased the game to run their own servers or give them full refunds. Seems kind of different to total surveillance of hundreds of millions of people but what do I know.
>>108797743Whenever a politician says anything about muh children, I am overcome with an overwhelming desire to apply a baseball bat on their kneecaps
>>108800682Because they want to implement true age verification which would bind your online activity to your real life identity, and they don't want people bypassing that
>>108797766goy
>>108797743>LE PROTECT LE CHILDRENIT'S NOTABOUTPROTECTINGCHILDREN
>>108800465Ask me know I know you're a German faggot without telling me you're a German faggotYou probably judge other people's character by the question of whether or not they might "vote" in a way that somehow "harms" you directly
>>108797814Because they are the ones doing those things. This is about controlling citizens. Surely you didn't seriously think they care about child safety?
>>108800465I'm a government employee though.You can start posting all your info ITT now.
>>108800465>Bound by lawIs that historically accurate or supported?
>>108800256>every good thing HAS to come with unrelated bullshit no one wantsRetarded mentality
>>108797743>muh, protect childreni am so tired of all politicians. those are just parasites.
>>108797743Is this time to buy hard drives and download data while it's still possible? How much time till they start prohibiting some books and films? I guess it's the last chance to grab some PC for running local LLMs and have data freedom.
>>108800539On prem.Always on prem.
>>108797751i had bitcoin (and other crypto) as a teenagermostly wanted to play around with money but not like a bank is gonna let a 15 year old program anything that works with real money
>>108797743This will be passed, and you will do NOTHING about it.
>>108802579Whose prem? Your own address where the ISP knows exactly who you are?
>>108797743Incidentally, this seems to be primarily the danish, taking advantage of their presidency period to push through this agenda. Apparently Denmark are among the strictest when it comes to these laws, and wand to standardise it across Europe. Our only hope is a few MEPs are sensible enough to push back against this agenda, so it's the usual case of contacting your representatives, maybe getting in contact with internet privacy groups and the like.
>>108802720Fuck the EU
>>108802994>cursory check of recent 20 posts>only whitesWow, I'm actually surprised. War is 100% coming to the EU.
>>108803332>War is 100% coming to the EU.Wrong. Bread and circuses will prevail.
>>108800561Yes, not all real criminals also happen to be pedophiles.
>>108797751>think about the childrenThe problem is the people believing this
>Parents decide act>read inside>fight antisemitism via internet deanonimization.
>>108800465CC your 4chan posts to your boss and see what he thinks.
>>108802693Doesn't matter.A VPN was always about encryption and secure auth into intranet from any shithole on the planet without compromising the intranet.VPN is being misused as an anonymity tool by literal morons.You zoomers have no idea.
>>108803756>Think about the children.The only ones that say this are the pedo elite that do think about the children.However what they are thinking about is how they will fuck them and then torture/eat them.
>>108797743are these children using VPNs in the room with us right now?
>>108797766>age verificationyou think it's about that, retard? this is a transparent ploy to make you use your real name for everything online forever. fucking retard.
>>108800027>It's the parents fault for the device they gave their kids.ftfy
>>108800239The Euros are about 15 years behind the curve; give it time.
>>108799428>In parallel, Parliament's Committee on Culture and Education (CULT)lol
>>108800821>with zero input from any EU citizensThis should apply to everything.
>>108803756I used to think they were mere skeptical.But then my sister said something along the lines and now I realise that people really are this stupid.They really think they can just live in a transparent society and not die.It's just gonna immediately get people tracked and murdered by the state for whistleblowing.
>>108805006>The only ones that say this are the pedo elite that do think about the children.Worse, they want to catch the children that whistleblow online and track them through their particular means, which btw is a data monopoly and will obliterate the economy (it already is obliterating the economy). But their shit is private and not open sourced so it's not transparent. Yours is. That's the goal. Leverage. Power.If they want transparency, they should release ALL source code online immediately.But instead they force you to be transparent and them to be opaque. Cartel. It's just a cartel, a racket, a feudal system they're trying to reform. First it will be internet media.Next it will be your brain. In fact, they've likely already started through a disease we're all acquainted with now. That's why you needed to live with covid, not reject it. That way it works on you.
>they'd never use these things to shut down political discourse in any forumhttps://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cr7p9z37x5goYou will be forbidden from entering states if you even mention the gazan genocide soon. This is totalitarianism. Anglo/5-eye states are just totalitarian.I'm not even sure messages will reach people at some point and instead an AI dummy will simply replace the internet to users. That's how filters work. But they only work on the unsophisticated, not the technocratic AI corporate hives. I guess this is it for ALL media, not just social media. The TV is also a lie, the radio, your books. All of it will become nothing but lies. This is what "safety" looks like.>oh no I had another workplace accident because the instructions given online were complete garbage and because I had no online critic system with real people on it to make sure it works>I also paid $1230.00 for the 4 pages of ISO standards that said literally nothingGet ready.Things are going to stop working left right and centre and all because some Karens needed their comfy job in government that lobbies for safety. Death to government administrators. Kill them before they kill you. It's no quarter now. They clearly don't want the masses to live now.All for the safety of children and the trojan for DRM enforcement. Hurray!I might unironically move to africa at this rate.
>>108797743They will not able to stop VPN. Even China cant do shit
>>108805861>and all because some Karens needed their comfy job in government that lobbies for safety.It's more like because some Silicon Valley/Wall Street boomer faggots need to fatten their bottom lines/net worths at all costs. A bunch of midlevel govt dipshits who get paid to play phone games all day long are not your real enemy.
fucking kek>putting literal threat vectors on your computer>for the safety of your childrenFuck these assholes.
>>108797743SEA here. They cant do shit. Dont worry about it
>>108805962lol.If the anglo states enforce it in their states, you will oblige or they will attack you through proxies until you do. Covid was probably a form of it.
>>108805006>eat children>motherfucker hasn't heard of prions
>>108805945Is NoScript still useful?
>>108800465>government: has my best interests in mind and bound by lawEven if you take this as truthful, your government will end up contracting out to some other company to develop or provide the government service and will ass fuck you anyway.
>>108805976Angloid states are toothless. 4chan doesn't comply with any of the meme age verification laws of Texas, North Carolina or real nations like the UK.
>>108797936> Europealready being implemented in some US states
>>108803798he works for mossad
EU can only regulatenever innovate
>>108806136try be optimistic anonSiena Weekly Market near the Fortezza Medicea, Lizza Park Mercato - YouTube
>>108797743i love eu so much but at the same time really fucking despise it
>>108806068It still works as intended.It's up to you to tolerate the bullshit 99% of the sites put you through if you use it.
With every new law I become increasingly convinced that children are literally THE WHOLE REASON everything sucks nowThink of the children? I'm thinking of launching all children into the sunWords cannot express how much I hate breedoidsRev. Chris Korda did nothing wrong
>>108806978buddy, turn your focus toward the boomer and Xer elites in SV and the church and on Wall StreetThey are the ones trying to frame this blatant programming as "protecting le children"
We must save EVROPΛ from the Surveillance State.
>>108805782If you give the official reason, a good chunk of people will believe whatever it is.The whole VPN saga came because EU and the WEF wanted to silence critics of their political ideology. The way they wanted to do was to punish platforms allows people to speak their mind. They targetted X and as a result created DSA to punish X for not censoring EU leaderships' political critics.
This sounds unironically worse than russian censorship long term. In russia politicians openly blocking opposing platforms and do not care about normalfag friendly excuses like "muh children", which in turn keeps VPN use socially acceptable and normalized, not stigmatized in a "why do you care, are you a pedo?" way.
>>108807207VPN are banned in Russia and police randomly stops people to check their phone
>>108806978You could just stop having welfare and interventionism so other peoples' children aren't your problem.
>>108807555VPN providers are being blocked but personal use of VPNs is not illegal.But that's beside the point.The point is that everyone openly uses VPNs, coworkers and neighbours are openly discussing which service works better for them.Stigmatizing privacy and free speech would have been a smarter move than what russian governement did.
>protecting childrenwhat about not letting your abhorrent offspring sit in front of a shitphone 24/7?if you're not able to give your offspring the bare minimum of necessary education you shouldn't reproduce in the first place
>>108807631sadly this is too big a responsibility for the majority of IRL parents
