AI bros...it's over
>this is all it will take for normgroid NPC "people" to revise history and pretend like RPCS3 wasn't a buggy unstable piece of shit even before vibecoding existed>now you won't be able to criticize how bad the software has become because jeets will just point at you and screech "AIBRO" over and overmacabre
It's fine, I'll continue to contribute code without attributing the AI that wrote it.
>>108798291You know you can still use ai, all they are asking is to check it before you submit, because the ai never gets anything right on the first try unless it's a self contained simple task.
>>108798310>you can still use aithere is no """training""" material about coding for CELL that all of these AIslops could steal.
>>108798291Luddites are on pure copium.
>>108798868>there is no training materialexcept RCPS3 itself
>make something in claude>hey deepseek look at this thing i made>hey chatgpt look at this thing i made>hey claude, look at this thing i maderun it through like 5 cycles and eventually it'll come out nice
>>108798875GOOD MORNING SIR!
>>108798291is he talking about text generation models?all they generate is text so you cant enforce this rule since you cant tell if a text is from a text generation model (from a keyboard but encoded in a model file via neural net training) or a keyboard
>>108798875shalom rabbi
>>108798291The number of deeply hidden exploits in codebases is currently skyrocketing, the future is looking ever better =)
>>108798291>leave behind something useful to humanity when you're gone>codeLol, lmao even
Fucking based, the retards from llama.cpp should've done this ages ago
>>108798291Based.
>>108799110>you cant tell if a text is from a text generation modelnah, it's actually quite easy once you've seen your share of slop
>>108798875+100 izzat
>>108799249nowsame UTF8 data generated by generation models and other means
>>108799110If you are good enough that your ai-generated code cannot be distinguished from handwritten code, you aren't the problem nor the target of policies like this.
as if anything is fucking """over""" because some devs running a PS emu community knows how to call bullshit. qemu also did the same but for a diff reason iirc.retarded boomers are (unfortunately) still fellating themselves over this.
The irony in telling someone to do something useful when you turn down free work on a free project based around reverse engineering someone elses software.You know what's useful and lasts? Free code. Regardless of it it was written by a machine or not. Does it work? Can you read it? Accept the pull.>no I just can't do that because my pride is more important than tangible progress, you're just madYes, I am mad. You're stifling your own progress and blaming others for it, and the only ones that lose are you and your users.
>>108799503It doesn't work that's the problem, retard.Morons with slopcannons are overwhelming maintainers with useless broken code.
>>108799521>some didn't work so we're going to ban the entire practiceI can see why you're projecting the word "retard".
>>108799451so what is says my code is against the rules nowi took my code, deleted a single 'a' character from it and instead pasted in an 'a' character that i copied from chatgpt. this is now 'ai generated code', please tell me how they distinguish between generated and not generated.please show me the difference between 'ai generated' 01100001 and 'human typed' 01100001. not to mention that so called 'ai generated' code is all human code that's just been encoded in a neural net and spit back out with inference. how is a 01100001 that my keyboard generated that's been put into a neural net via training and been been spit out via inference with a prompt difference from a 01100001 that the very same keyboard generated that's bee put directly into a file from my keyboard?>01100001 <- this one is chatgpt>01100001 <- this one is from my keyboardnow tell me if these are correct or i switched out the 2 of them and am lying
>>108798875>Vibejanitors maldingGo fix your slop for free.
>>108799529Problem with AI si that some is in the millions.
>>108799529It's because I'm not autistic and have managed projects before. Your brain is crippled and cannot see practical reality of policies and enforcement. >>108799594Same goes for you, too. You would rather cry like a pathetic little baby about how your code is against the rules, instead of just continuing on and risking the ban, knowing that you cannot be caught. Your crippled brain is incapable of considering the issue from the maintainer perspective. That they have a real and pressing problem with the volume of slopcode being submitted, and the easiest and most effective way to fix the problem is a blanket ban on AI submission.You imagine it's like a shitty TV show, and they have a bunch of lawyers and legistlators that can spend a week drafting and revising some perfectly articulated and well-bounded policy that solves the slopcannon problem without blocking the quality AI submissions. AND you somehow think that such a policy would be, in practice, any more effective than just a simple ban on AI submissions.It's simple. If you're a slop slinging retard, you'll get banned. If nobody can tell you are using AI, you won't.
>>108798291snailcat luddite rage
>>108799478>>108799503holy seethe
>>108798291I've been following RPCS3 since 2017, it's always been a buggy mess. Nearly 10 years on and its still as broken and unintuitive as ever
How about they make their own console instead of emulating somebodyelses.
>>108799815>It's because I'm not autistic and have managed projects before. Your brain is crippled and cannot see practical reality of policies and enforcement.This didn't convince me and I'm not sure it convinced yourself either. I appreciate your indirect reply though.
>>108798309>It's fine, I'll continue to contribute code without attributing the AI that wrote it.And you'll get banned. It's not like real programmers can't tell the difference between AI slop and real PRs, it's just a waste of fucking time to start reading code, start to get suspicious when it's trash but you try and give it the benefit of the doubt, then you realise it's vibe coded trash and it just wasted your time. Ban. New account? Auto-ban.PR correctly tagged with AI? I'll read it when I'm bored because maybe your bot did good work and it would be foolish not to take it. But it probably won't so it's bottom of the pile.
>>108799815>have managed projects beforeDoing something doesn't mean you do it well. I know multiple people in multiple industries with 40 years of experience doing the same thing every day who have never done their task correctly a single day in their life.Case in point, you.>I'm not autisticRead your own post back. You're writing like a preschooler that's been personally slighted and are comparing things to TV shows with scenarios you made up instead of reality. Highly ironic to call people babies while lashing out in excess prose.
>>108799871No, nobody can tell the difference between AI code and homo generated code if it’s formatted correctly.
>>108799594Why do you even care if some project doesn't want your slop? If the slop is so good and so easy to shit out simply make your own emulator with it.
>>108799912>Write my own code>Ask AI to format it and add comments>Now my entire thing will be accused of AI
>>108798291Incorrect. This snailcat project will fail. AI is the future.
>>108800325>Search public forks>AI-ify potential future PRs>Well permanently poisoned for those changeshmmm
>>108799594You're a fucking idiot.If someone with an IQ above room temperature can tell an AI generated paragraph over a well written human one, why would the same not apply to code?
>>108800325>>108800467a certain large foss repo's main contributor was caught doing this and had their future (fy27) donation commitments withdrawn for it.>t. i work for the big sota ai company
>>108799815>Same goes for you, too. You would rather cry like a pathetic little baby about how your code is against the rulesmy point is code thats against the rules os bit for bit byte for byte identical to one thats compliant with the rules. and i have a space raspberry pi i could easily train a 1 layer neural net trained on a very simple set of training data ('a' = 'a' , 'b'='b' ...) so every keystroke is set to the 'AI' and my actual main computer only gets the 'ai generated' version. there is no way shape or form to detect 'ai generated' bytes from normal bytes, its a totally arbitrary distinction
>>108800285please determine for my if this reply you're reading right now is AI generated. go ahead and try to apply something like the rule they are using.what is exactly your plan? how are you going to determine if i copied this from 'ai' or not>>108800542ok here are 2 letters, determine which was typed in and which was copied from chatgpt>a>ago ahead
>>108798308fpbp /thread
>>108798309Why would you want to help people who hate you? Just make your own fork.>>108798310They explicitly say they hate "AI bros" i.e. people who are enthusiastic about AI.Why would someone who uses AI want to help people who hate them for it?
75% of /g/ today are nocoders, aren't they?They're clearly banning people who ask random code from LLMs and submit it without knowing how it works, supposedly because many PRs are made of bad AI code that might work for a specific thing but breaks everything else.If you use AI to generate code that is understandable and/or that you correct said code so it works without regressions, then they'll probably accept your PR.
>>108800626They explicitly said they ban people who like AI ("AI bros").They deserve to be superseded by a better project that does not hate their own tools.
>>108800604Neither of these are being accepted on github. Human or AI. That's the whole point of this thread that you're ignoring with a bullshit strawman that doesnt even work. You should rope
>>108799815They are being intentionally incendiary and hopping on the AI hate bandwagon.They could add rules without the social media flaming and attention whoring.They deserve their project to become irrelevant.
>>108800644there is no difference, text is text, bytes are bytes
>>108800663You are an Indian
>>108800672not what i said
>>108800640Doesn't seem like it. The following is the section about AI use from the project's README:___________________AI UseUse of AI tools for research and reverse engineering purposes is permitted. However, contributors are expected to fully own and understand all code they submit. Any communication with the team — including code, code comments, and GitHub comments — must come from the human contributor, not an AI agent acting autonomously.We have unfortunately seen a rise in untested and unverified AI-generated slop being submitted to this project. This wastes maintainer time and, in worse cases, such changes get merged and break functionality for all users. Repeated violations will result in a ban from the repository. Please be respectful of everyone's time.Pull requests opened by AI agents or automated tools must include a disclosure in the PR description stating the scope of AI involvement — which parts were AI-generated and what human testing or review was performed prior to submission. PRs that omit this disclosure may be closed without review.If you are unsure about your work, open a discussion issue to talk it through with the team, or reach out to a maintainer on Discord.___________________Seems fair enough to me.
>>108800640How are AI sloppers going to replace proper reverse-engineers in a PS3 project? LOL
>>108800681They communicated their policy on the message posted by the OP.
>>108800706You are dumb if you think actual devs aren't using AI for code generation and the only ones doing it are new people with no previous experience.
>>108800775Well, presumably no person who likes AI would develop software without generating some of the code with it, so it's a moot point.
>>108800794Which is why I said they're probably fine with AI-generated code as long as it was tested and understood by the individual who prompted it.I'm talking to an LLM, right?
>>108798875Libtards are on pure arrestium (fentanyl)
>>108799826spamming libtard outrage
>>108799841unholy go to bed
>AI bros>crypto bros>whatever brosWhy have twitterfags taken to using "bros" as a suffix in the way 4chan would use fags? It just sounds like they're using an endearing term instead.
have they considered having their emulator work instead of being absolute shit?
>>108798291if you use AI correctly the reviewer won't know if it's AI or not
>>108798291Your other thread is still up. Stop spamming the catalog.
>>108799594Anon, you know how you can tell lot of times at a glance that an image is AI generated, usually because of the composition and lighting? Yeah if you copy pixel from AI generated pic nobody could tell, but if you make some slop infographic from ChatGPT you can tell, the same goes for text, the way you structure code and words you use and comments you leave and so on. It’s subtle but you will get the feel of it and the more of it is fully AI generated the easier it is to spot.
>>108798875If AI is so great, why do you need to manually composite the image instead of asking AI to do it?
>>108798291we don't need the fucking repository, dumb shit. with ai, you have a whole coding team of agents already.
>>108798875>calls people who recognize AI as pointless "luddites"Very jewish of you.
>>108798291Good
>>108805029structure of generated text depends on model, training data, system prompt... each puts out a different structure and they are in no way distinguishable from any other type of textthey said 'you cant user model X with prompt Y' they said you cant use any model past present and future.
>>108805582>they are in no way distinguishable from any other type of textholy cope
>>108805586this text is entirely the output of an llm
>>108805722>cope intensifies to mentally ill levels
>>108805571This is dumb. The real question is: is the game fun? Are the assets good looking? That's it. So what was the real reason he was forced to take down the video? Was he extremely shilly about the ugliest most generic bullshit ever that happened to be 1:1 ripoff of another game?
>>108805738>the real question is: can i consoom it???????Clearly, that's not the only "real question" as far as real people are concerned, even if golems only see one thing.
>>108805728ooh super scary 'forbidden text', these bytes are bad and wrong because they come from some matrix multiplication.
>>108805762>mental illness intensifies
>>108805778what if i sneak into your home at night ,open up your keyboard and use a microcontroller programmer to reprogram the firmware?i would replace the 'a' character in your keyboard with an 'a' i copied from chatgpt so every text you'd type out would be scary forbidden and bad using 'ai generated' 'a' characters
>>108805760It's a game, it's literally supposed to be consoomed. Are you retarded? Or are you one of those trannies who want to #cancel people because they don't hate russia enough? It's more important to you the color of the skin of the developer (i.e. the developer's person) than the product?
>>108805783Please continue driveling incoherently and losing your mind publicly to demonstrate the consequences of using a statistical token shitter 12 hours a day.
>>108805784I guess it's impossible to even strawman you at this point, you are the literal manifestation of>the real question is: can i consoom it???????
>>108805788im not the one crashing out over 'bad' 'scary' text that is byte for byte just normal text
>>108805802>im not the one crashing out over 'bad' 'scary' text that is byte for byte just normal textThe voices are a part of (You).
>>108805804you're the one who's hearing voices bro
>>108805811If you take your prescribed meds, all the crazies around you will go away. Just try it once.
>>108805794No brain identified. AI or just born that way?
>>108798308RPCS3 is pretty solid, code-wise. It's emulating quite complex hardware so it's understandable that it has its quirks.Do you have anything real to fume about instead of just vague bullshit to protect your feelings? You sound like a fat child.
>>108798291Let's be real, you probably pay or leech these tokens using [redacted], [redacted] or [redacted] ways so why you're giving pull requests away for free to the ai vegans? I have personal forks of shit like dolphin (implement a MCP on the debugger to feed real time info to Claude) and other minor improvements on selected games, PCSX2, duckstation and I'm not there with pull requests, that's a pajeet thing, I'm white on the bottom of my feet.
>>108805877You can shit out generic markov chain replies but the bottom line is that people are sick of your consoomer golem culture. Funny how it took """AI""" to make them finally see the problem.
>>108805784>Or are you one of those trannies who want to #cancel people because they don't hate russia enough?You mean the Jews trying to cover up their war crimes and helotization of the masses?They always go just slow enough so you don't immediately notice it. Then they suddenly do a burst of restrictions of freedom for some strawman. Then they psyop you with media until you dissociate and ignore whatever just happened. Rinse and repeat. This is the method. Blind the chicken, wait until it settles, rape it, wait until it settles, rape it again, wait until it settles. This is what anglo/jewish society does to it's helots now. The 1% have helotized the masses through trauma just like the spartans did.
>>108805929Illiterate to boot. Amazing. Go play with your aitarded tools, gainigger.
>>108806110>seethingPeople hate you and for good reasons.>you can't heckin' cancel my favorite slop producerYes, they can.
>>108798291>leave something useful to humanityKEK! The humanists are getting uppity again. Daily reminder you are completely owned by PALANTIR and all digital profiles have been logged and backups made you're living on borrowed time. Fuck luddy 'gon do?
>>10880415270% compatibility and in some ways it's much better than N64 and Saturn emulation. Have you considered researching something before mouthing off like an idiot?
>>108803481>libtard?
>>108798291Why AI fags can't just fork it?
>>108805722It's not the output of an LLM. "Output of an LLM" would suggest that the LLM had some input on it when it clearly is just echoing what the user wrote.
>>108806659it had input and based on the input it generated the output using it's weights. its 'ai generated' therefor forbidden by the rules of rpcs3 because its 'bad' 'scary' text coming from ai and not 'good' text coming from a keyboard directly.some of the bytes in your computer are bad and scary because they were copied from the output of an llm and that is a moral panic now
>>108805778No, he’s right. I guarantee you that tons of updates to this and other projects are entirely AI generated despite their misguided anti-AI stance. You literally cannot tell just by reading it, and replying with shit like “holy mental illness!!!” doesn’t help your case, it makes you look retarded.
>>108806606I'll fork (you)
>>108806606pls happen, lulz potential is maximum
>>108800588>my point is code thats against the rules os bit for bit byte for byte identical to one thats compliant with the rules.You don't need to make the point. I understand your point. I knew your point before you even tried to make it. My original post already accounted for it by pointing out that AI code that cannot be detected won't get banned.You are failing to get my point, which is that the people making this rule have plenty of actual evidence and can make side-by-side comparisons of real code and aislop code. They are not fussing about the fine distinction between code written by a human and code that seems like it was written by a human but was actually produced by AI. You are doing that, and in doing so missing the bigger picture.> there is no way shape or form to detect 'ai generated' bytes from normal bytes, its a totally arbitrary distinctionYes there is, given sufficient context for actual that cases that the maintainers of RPCS3 actually have to deal with.This is not a new thing. Trolls have been playing dumb for as long as the internet has existed. You: "You can't prove I was trolling!"Mod who doesn't need to prove shit: "You are banned" Everyone else points and laughs.
>>108798875>give sam altman all your money!why?
>>108800604>for my ifEither slop or brown either way it's trash
>>108806606They know their shit won't get anywhere without actual devs carrying them. If they really believed in the magic AI they would already be forking and surpassing everyone else.
>>108798291Why drives someone to make an emulator for a system that has no games?
>>108808370my point is one piece of text isnt allowed because its copied from an llm, those are 'bad' bytes those registers of your cpu and those NANDs on you ssd are 'tainted' and 'ai generated'.but if you type in the same text its ok, legitimate code that's good and allowed. those are 'good' bytes because a keyboard's microcontroller made them from keystrokes and they were never copied or routed though a neural net.>>108808370>>Yes there is, given sufficient context for actual that cases that the maintainers of RPCS3 actually have to deal with.there is not. the second law of thermodynamics does not allow you to trace back the origin of every bit of a code submission.you would have to destroy every existing computer and microcontroller on the planet and take computing 50 years back to redesign the architecture of every chip so every character of text has metadata attached to it that states if it's a 'bad' character of text ("ai generated"), said metadata would have to be cryptographically signed or ensured somehow so every single character on every computer on the planet cant be spoofed to show it was not 'ai generated' when it was. a single ascii character would be like 256bit we'd basically turn all of computing into python performance-wise because some retards dont like bytes that trace their origin to some matrix multiplication.
Retard here, I don't get it. Are people submitting bullshit code just to feel important? What's the point of spamming pull requests, is there some social clout gained from doing it? I imagine if the code sucks then they will be told that and lose credit.
>>108800640>They deserve to be superseded by a better project that does not hate their own tools.>those DAMN emulator developers.... rejecting MY code...? MY prs...? trying to stop ME from becoming open source contributor??? oh vishnu, if only they knew the hell they were about to unleash... i'll show them... i'll show them the folly of their luddic ways!!>okay chatgpt make ps3 emulator>okay code in javascript please>it didnt work try again>fix errors>fix errors>try again>what does this error mean? please fix>okay make program work please>okay make program work with no errors please fix all errors>make program faster thank you
>>108808888It's a split between naive idiots going "hmm, why haven't they fixed this bug yet? oh well, I can always help them out with AI!" and malicious third worlders doing the equivalent of this so they can put down "Open Source Developer" on their resumes. Both generate unmaintainable shitcode that actual developers have to waste time sifting through.
>>108798291Nothing wrong with having quality standards but that limb dicked seethe isn't a good look
>>108808888Pajeets have been doing that for literal ages. They'd submit 500 doc typos found by automated software and unironically get linux contributor status from this and internships for high contribution counts etc. Since it works, they keep doing it.
>>108800625Could try to push shit code out of spite at this point
makes sensewhy accept slop from randoms when anyone can do it by themself
>>108798925>just get a million monkeys typing on a million typewriters and eventually they'll produce the correct code
>>108805571>use ai to write apology for glazing aikek
>>108798291How do "AI bros" even know what they are peddling? They can't code. Therefore they do not know what the fuck they are peddling. Weird shit.
I like AI
>>108808823I win.
>>108813420nah
>>108798308Works on my machine.
>>108813608Yep. The thesis is that you are fixated on the wrong thing and don't understand the real world of humans and how they can accurately and effectively interpret context. That you tried to cite a law of thermodynamics to deny the reality of this, proves on its better than I ever could, that you lack the ability to understand what is self-evident to people with functioning brains.