>all the benefits of Arch without having to manually do everythingThis is literally the perfect OS
I like that I can tell my friends about Cachy and they can just have it work. While I'm sticking with my Arch install, I definitely see why Cachy is catching on.
>Guys Cachy is the best because it's Arch but easy to use and with performance tweaks!>Nooo Cachy is shit because fotm meme distro and it will be abandoned! Noobs should grow a beard and do everything manually to learn about their OS!>Hey guys Cachy is bad because Arch is bad, you should really be using [my favorite distro]There. I acted out the entire thread, now we don't need one.
>>108799853this implies arch is good anyway.use picrel.
>>108799903fuck, you were right
>>108799853It's not bad, but it isn't a beginner friendly distro either. Well that was my experience with their handheld builds. You definitely need intermediate skills to make it useful at least the last I checked a few months ago
>>108799903Yeah nigga we should all learn how to punch binary on paper because all of the high languages may be abandoned
>>108799917You don't need Nix. CachyOS/Arch are perfectly fine for non-normie GNU/Linux users.
i think gayming homosexuals should stay on windows
I use cachyos btw doesn't rhyme so it's kinda shit
>>108800403This. Games on Linux were a huge mistake.
>>108800403>>108800426Blame Steamdeck and Gaben
>>108799853I stick with FEDora. Latest and greatest tested packages, good security team behind it, SELinux ootb. Not maintained by literal whos.Arch, Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, openSUSE.Everything else is slop and can't be trusted.
>>108800426Wouldn't have been a problem if Micro$hit didn't decide to hire a bunch of jeets to enshittify windows and convert 1/3rd of their coding to be managed by AI. But alas, here we are.
>literallyshut the fuck up mongoloid>perfectnothing is perfect incel zoomer
>>108799917>NixGo back to the other T-slurs on the orangesite and stay there.
>>108800403What do you use your pc for?
>>108799853Vladislav Nepogodin should really go buy an ad.Preferably in North Korea or China or some other communist shith... I mean country.Why bring free stuff to this disgusting capitalists, right? If they want Cachy, they should move to glorious Russia first.
Call me when your games work well on my RTX 5090 kthxbai Windows 11 IoT LTSC remains the goat.
>>108800403>>108800426Linux is generally a better experience than alternatives not because Linux does anything amazing, but before MacOS is a gardenwalled tardspace and Windows is so dreafully annoying to daily use that leaving it is akin to getting an AVO on your ex.The absolute best thing I can say about Linux as a daily driver is how little it fucking bothers you. You set shit up, and outside of adding edge functionality (or expecting bluetooth to just werk), nothing will break, nothing will auto-update, nothing will pester you. It's bliss. So unfortunately, as MacOS doesn't even really support gaming, and Windows is turning into a shithole, sorry champ but I'm gonna gaym on Cachy and I'm sure a shit ain't alone.
>>108799853Hey guys Cachy is bad because Arch is bad, you should really be using Gentoo
>>108800525vibe coding and hacking
>>108800525jerking off to llm generated messages
>>108799853Tried it - it's good, Nobara is awesome.
>>108800979>timmys first gaymer distro is awesome>timmys first larping gaymer distro is goodhow come?
>>108800647>>108800661so fedora?
>>108800993Both are good, one is better, what's the problem?
>>108799897Guess you could say it’s “cachying on”
>>108800546Vladislav Nepogodin doesn't need permission from crossdressing homosexuals.
>>108799853Doing everything manually is literally the only benefit of arch. It's a garbage-tier distro, other than that. What the fuck are you talking about, anon?
>>108801083I am talking about the best package manager, by far.
>>108801102You don't want to do everything manually, but you give a shit about the package manager?
>>108799853I'm having a fantastic time with this distro. Currently playing the Twilight Princess Dusk port with a DualSense on my laptop on it. Both in games and in general, it runs fast as shit. Any issues I have with other games are due to which version of Proton I'm using. It all just werks in the end with minimal obstacles.
>>108801083>literally the only benefit of arch.that's having newest packages and aur
>>108801138Are you larping or are you retarded?What differentiates distros?
>>108799853People have been using EndeavourOS for years before this Cachy PR campaign started. There are things Cachy does that should make you hesitate.
>>108801410>People have been using EndeavourOS for yearslmao
Why doesn't Arch just do all the shit Cachy does by default? Why do you need these hobbyist meme distros just to have basic features like a GUI installer?
>>108801655because it's a blank slate, that's literally the pointbest they could do is give you a package that downloads all the cachy shit in one go
>>108801655Outside of the scope of Arch.
>>108801655>why doesn't Arch stop being Arch?I don't know, good question
>>108799917>use picrel.Sorry, I'm not an schizophrenic, ten levels into gender ideology, turbo communist tranny.
>>108801655Because if you want it to work on an ancient piece of shit PC, you can do so without any extra bloat. It has niche utility there. For what exactly, I don't know and am not really interested, but if that changes, I know what distro to use if I want some early 2000s HP desktop to run a little script 24/7 or something and use a shitload of electricity compared to an RPi. That's what freedom is about.
We should shill this on Reddit so it becomes more popular and I can call it the reddit distro for gaymers
>>108801973It's already the most popular distro at the moment
>>108801669>>108801897>>108801935Pretty sure they could include a gui installer. Windows 95 had one ffs
>>108801999They could, the target audience however doesn't care for it. If you want Arch with a GUI installer you can just install EndeavourOS. It's 1 small step divorced from being literally Arch with a GUI installer.
>>108799853How likely will this be a long lasting supported Linux distribution kind of like Mint?
>>108802149Pretty high considering it's the most used desktop OS on protondb
>>108802040>If you want Arch with a GUI installerI have absolutely no desire to use arch at all, tbqh
>>108799853i used to run arch, now i run cachy because it just works and i dont need to configure shit
>>108800979>>108801008not the other anon, but why is Nobara better?I have only tried cachy but I'd rather use something Fedora based.
>>108802149From what I gather Cachy devs have good sponsorships and the project is so far very healthy. I wouldn't worry about it just vanishing overnight since it's just Arch but made easier, someone would take the project again.
My experience with distros based on Arch always makes me wish I just used Arch. In the first place, I don't need someone else's pre-installed environment. I can install my own, it doesn't take that long and you only have to do it once. But besides that, these distros inevitably have their cracks start to show and have some bugs that aren't present in Arch.Same phenomenon with distros based on Ubuntu. Just use Ubuntu and install your favorite DE.
>>108802458Try them both and see how long it takes to figure things out and set it up to your liking. For me Cachy required more effort and because of that felt less polished. Nobora however is very picky with dual boots if you don't prepare ahead of time. It needs 3 partitions with the root being in btrfs or it fails to properly configure the grub config file. You must also prioritise Fedora/Nobara in the bios for boot order. I was surprised by Nobara. Didn't expect to keep it.
>>108802499The thing with CachyOS is all the custom-tuned parts that would be fucking horrible to configure in a regular Arch install.
>>108802499>Just use Ubuntu and install your favorite DE.there are ubuntu flavors
>>108802499You're not the target audience then. It might not be that hard to install things, but if you're new to linux, you don't even know what you want to install. Imagine you're a gaymer with an nvidia card who never used linux before. You dislike win11 enough to try it, but don't know if it'll run well enough for you. It would be retarded to go through learning linux and installing arch, just to find that nvidia/dx12 is too shit for you to use. It's the same reason why most distros have a live environment to test things in.
>>108802639Oh yeah I do understand that appeal for newcomers, but I'm just remembering being a newcomer in 2016 and getting recommended Manjaro as the just werks distro only to be disappointed.
>>108801999archinstall is right there
>>108802639>just to find that nvidia/dx12 is too shit for you to useThis is not 2020 grandpa Nvidia drivers work fine
>>108802867a TUI is NOT ENOUGH, it is still TOO COMPLICATED, the evil black box is SCARYI NEED to use Arch (I just NEED to ok?) and I NEED to CLICK with my MOUSE on the cute round button to install it!!!!!!!!!
>>108802878They don't know that, the point is to get you running fast without a huge time investment. As a bonus, Cachy does fairly well in benchmarks, so if it doesn't work well, they can move on rather than wondering if they messed up configuring it or they should try another distro. It's a strong sales pitch to someone who's sitting on the fence. Furthermore, having a blank slate to customize is of no value if you don't know or care about the customizations. You have to use an OS first before you can have opinions. Well, for most people at least. It's funny when newbies come in with no linux experience saying they don't want systemd.
>>108802319Then why the fuck do you care whether it has a GUI installer or not? It's clearly not for you.
>>108799853Cachy is only worked on by 4 people. If there is a zero day, you are fucked. It will take them days to patch it.
>>108803059CachyOS is a Linux distro, the people working on it ain't gonna patch shit. Upstream is gonna patch it and they just update their packages.
>>108803082don't know about that chiefthey ship a custom kernel and god knows how many other things
>>108803090You do understand that these "custom kernels" are just spat out automatically by a script based on upstream, right? Nobody here is developing a new kernel.
>>108799903How did he know?
>>108802040>They could, the target audience however doesn't care for it.The popularity of arched based distro with an installer contradicts your assertion.
>>108802319How about crunchbang?
>>108803262Arch is also popular.. and unlike Arch-based distros that come and go, Arch doesn't come and go.The people who use Arch use Arch and the people who use Arch-based distros use all kind of different distros, such as Endeavour, Manjaro, SteamOS, CachyOS, Garuda. They all have something that appeals to different people. The target audiences are not the same.
>>108803878All of these but SteamOS are using arch for the exact same reason Access to arch functionality while rejecting the minimalism fetish
>>108804100Arch isn't minimalist nor does it have any special functionality. Pacman is also a very primitive package manager, which is sub optimal in terms of functionality for many people.If arch deserves to be called anything, it's vanilla Linux. People use arch based distros and other distros in general to get a flavour other than vanilla.
>>108802993Because it seems retarded that it's necessary to have a bunch of meme forks just to include basic functionality that operating systems have had since the 90's
>>108804352This functionality is not needed. Simple as. These "meme forks" exist, there is no purpose in duplicating what they do.
>>108799853Can I use the latest version of Dracut easily even though it isn't in the AUR yet?
>>108800546Do you think russia is communist or something you absolute mongoloid? Is this bait or are mutts this retarded?
>>108804518>This functionality is not needed.Clearly it is or retarded forks like endeavour and manjaro would never have been created
>>108802452This. Really isn't too much to ask for yet tizmos always make as big deal out of it because it's not vanilla Arch or whatever.
>>108799853I don't trust it, they clearly spent the whole budget on the logo
>>108799853It would be great if Arch or CachyOS would replace mkinitcpio with initramfs-tools (Debian) or dracut (Fedora). Both of which are able to get my laptop working with little (Trixie) to no (Forky, Fedora) intervention. The autodetect in mkinitcpio is useless.
>>108799853>all the benefits of Archlike what, randomly breaking on updates every few months?unfortunately, ubuntu remains the only major distro with a sensible release and update schedule
>>108799853>can't do offline installInto the trash it goes.
>>108805286Manjaro is nothing like vanilla Arch though. It's not even similar. It's just based on Arch. EndeavourOS is similar, but it's not that popular.
>>108805672No thanks. I like mkinitcpio. Also, doesn't Cachy use Dracut anyway? EndeavourOS uses it.
>>108806710No, CachyOS uses mkinitcpio by default. I used to like it too, until recently.
>>108799853its not perfect until they patch the kernel to have the right driver for my motherboards fan controller
>>108806587Manjaro is fucking arch Every "arch based distro" is fucking arch, there is literally little you can do to heavily modify it without turning it into anything that's only "arch based" which is why calling any of those meme distros is retardedIt's not like Debian/Ubuntu based distros or even Fedora with Nobara and Bazzite where people tastardize them to the point where they're a lot more different than the upstream. Arch is Arch no matter what you use it with, the only thing that ever varies between those distros is the setup that comes with them, which you can replicate on vanilla arch 99% of the time.
im on cachyos and i think its goodend of line~~~~line ends here
>>108806924No it's not lmao. Manjaro is an attempt at making Arch user friendly and "stable". Which is not Arch. Arch is not user friendly nor is it stable, it's a rolling release.
>>108802926>It's funny when newbies come in with no linux experience saying they don't want systemd.Propaganda works. Kek!Many such cases
>>108807012Manjaro is literally just Arch with preconfigured shit so you don't have to do it yourself. The stability in it is retarded because muh holding back packages is the absolute dumbest thing you can do on a rolling distroName one thing from it that you can't just use on Arch. Hell, name one thing from ANY "Arch-based" distro that you can't configure on a vanilla install of it.
>>108806924Manjaro is a dogshit distro that has nothing in common with arch except pacman.The whole fucking point of arch is to be a rolling release with somewhat cutting edge software. Manjaro just arbitrarily holds packages for 2 weeks without having a specific reason for it other than "muh stability," but it doesn't even give you more stability, it just pushes the instability 2 weeks in the future. Furthermore this stupid decision doesn't apply to the AUR so you have a 2-week discrepancy between native packages and AUR packages. It's beyond retarded. I cannot fathom why a new user would start using manjaro. The only use case I see is to satisfy whoever's babyduck syndrome
>>108799853CoochyOSSorry, but I couldn't help myself.
>>108805672dracut is in the Arch repo so all you have to do to start using it is RTFM.
>>108807802>>108805672BTW there is talk of replacing dracut in Fedora with mkosi so you might wanna look into that instead.https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/44/ChangeSet#mkosi-initrd
>>108807818https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/mkosi-initrd
>>108807012>>108807125>>108807138>Manjaro is a dogshit distroHard agree.I dailied Manjaro for a year and by month 8 things were just breaking left right and center. It could be fixed but only with patience and technical ability. The sheer amount of bloat on a standard install is also staggering. Forums and documentation is just plain fucked, and base Arch resources trounce whatever half-asses attempt the Manjaro chuds tried to do. I really only tried it because why knot, but as soon as problems started occuring I wished I had just did a standard Arch install. Manjaro is not any more stable, friendly, or enjoyable. If Arch Classic just had a GUI installer this distro would die because that's literally all they can rest upon.I will often try new distros in a VM just to see what they do differently, see what packages they use I've not yet heard of, and look at how configs are set up to influence my own systems, but holy shit Manjaro offered nothing of note.CachyOS literally feels like Arch with a standard DE/WM setup and a bunch of obvious packages, drivers, and settings already configured.
>>108807971>If Arch Classic just had a GUI installerIt already exists. EndeavourOS. The differences between that and Arch from Archinstall are not significant enough to really make a huge difference to 99% of users, it just attempts to make the desktop experience a bit more user friendly and uses dracut. It pulls almost everything wholesale from Arch repos. Just running Archinstall is better, though. Since you can use Arch documentation without any discrepancies and get help from Arch forums which you can't if you use CachyOS, EndeavourOS or whatever else.
>>108808019>you can't if you use CachyOSI never used anything other than the arch wiki for cachy in about 10 months of dailying
>>108808019>Arch documentation without any discrepancies and get help from Arch forums which you can't if you use CachyOS,Find me one Arch wiki entry which you can't use on Cachy
>>108799917I'm attached to my cock sorry
>>108808278>>108808298I didn't say you can't use it, I said you can't use it without encountering discrepencies which can be confusing if you're not knowledgeable about the subject matter. You also encounter those when using EndeavourOS, Debian, Fedora or anything else that isn't Arch.You can use the Arch Wiki even for Bazzite if you want. I'm sure at least some of it is still helpful, even when you stray that far from the source.
I'm swapping to cachy from artix rn because artix just shit the bed and I lost everything and I can't connect to network or even use a usb stick I even chrooted in and sorted the kernel but nope I've tried everything I used it for about a month was great no systemd works fine gaming fine then boom completely broken in all my years of Linux I have never seen this happen.Anyway I'm swapping to cachy I am a gamer so apparently it's the highest performance for gaming one can get with Linux.
>>108804553>protest retard cant find packages in the official repono surprise there
