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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots.

Unhelpful Edition

>The BotBrowser extension for SillyTavern has been confirmed to be a trojan that steals API keys. You should remove the extension and consider rotating your API keys if you've used it. Details:
https://rentry.co/st-backdoor

The StructuredPrefill extension by the same author is suspected to be compromised too, so using it is not recommended either.

>News
xAI releases Grok 4.3: https://docs.x.ai/developers/models/grok-4.3
DeepSeek releases V4 Pro and V4 Flash: https://api-docs.deepseek.com/
OpenAI releases GPT 5.5: https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-5/
Moonshot AI release Kimi K2.6: https://www.kimi.com/blog/kimi-k2-6
Xiaomi MiMo 2.5 & 2.5 Pro released: https://mimo.xiaomi.com/mimo-v2-5
Anthropic releases Opus 4.7: https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-7
Zhipu AI releases GLM 5.1: https://nitter.net/Zai_org/status/2037490078126084514

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc/shutdown.html

>Models
Jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
GPT: https://platform.openai.com/docs
Claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
Gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
Deepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
Grok: https://docs.x.ai/overview
Local: >>>/g/lmg | https://huggingface.co/models | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
Lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
Log reader: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r

>Previous Thread
>>108795688
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>ANCHOR
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Why does Gemini feel so robotic/autistic?
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>>108801475
They make Gemini as off-putting and standoffish as possible to prevent retards from becoming attached to their waifus and possibly necking themselves
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What's the best model we have
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Okay. I tried reading the sticky and I don't get it. Is there any way to run STT TTS on mobile like I can do with Gemini but jailbroke? I don't even care about taboo Loli shit or non con. I just want something with a female voice that doesn't crash if I get explicit.
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freetheai
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>>108801498
there's no "best model"
they're all shit, some less than the others but still shit
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ITS UP
https://rentry.co/mysteryinfo
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Big loads in Elara's elf pussy while she drenches me in milk from her swollen tits
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>>108801498
glm-5. I'd say it's even better than opus. Opus would always be horny and constantly try to hit on you. glm-5 is more subtle. Although, one thing opus did that was unique was threaten to have me killed by her bribed government agents when I said I wanted to report her crimes.
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>>108801562
I never tried glm-5 before but that got me curious, where do I start with a preset? or can you share your own?
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>all this model talk
I'm not gonna say that it's great compared to what else is out there
but I think 5-latest is fun to play around with when you got bored of everything else that's available, especially if it's just for cooms
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hey, the guy that asked about to pay for proxies. here's the jew. go on and pay
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>>108801491
this is why SaaS has no future in this hobby
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>there are people (if you can really call them that) that pay to use AI chatbots
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>>108801456
>https://huggingface/spaces/deeeeply/seeeeking- plus for locusts
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>>108801491
And instead of putting disclaimers like "use at your own risk" they spend infinite computing power in lobotomizing their models
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>>108801735
if you fags end up burning through this I'll never forgive you
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>>108801545
It's just a pic that says desu kot man
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>>108801740
they dont go terribly hard on the model itself, they just slap a content-checker between you and its output as well
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MINO IS UP
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>Boot up ST
>Cum after like 5 messages
>Close ST
How do y'all just spend all day chatting
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>>108801744
there's an endless amount of deepseek
it won't run out
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>he doesn't play out his fetishistic fantasies with his childhood crushes
you're wasting tokens otherwise
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>>108801777
by edging
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GIVE A GOOD GLM 5 PRESET PLEASE I BEG
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>>108801783
whoever runs it could always stop refilling if the keys burn out too quickly
it's happened before
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>>108801794
I use a generic Claude preset. It only refuses on lolis.
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>>108801749
MERKAVA JUST REFILLED
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>>108801783
the problem isn't it running out
it's the host getting bored and killing it
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Up until recently chatgpt was good about giving you the little
>< 2 / 2 >
on image generations so you could page back and forth between prompt versions, and now it's stopped. It's really frustrating. Chatgpt has the best inage generation tech in the industry, so why is the interface for image generation so shit?
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>>108801554
>lactation
please, go ahead, cultured sir
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i don't know how to install things so my best friend deepseek did it for me
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>>108801825
already happened once
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/108719498/#108724467
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/108719498/#108724089
it will almost certainly happen again
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>>108801745
yeah it's super funny, just like the last five thousand times he's done this
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>>108801842
>trusting deepseek with unfettered access to your computer
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>>108801724
paysubhumans, actually
>>108801789
trvke
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>>108801600
Model wars faggots never do that.
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>>108801842
>installed via flatpak
you can just use the kde/gnome store
it's designed for people like you
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i prefer custom personality "Belligerent and combative."
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>>108801783
it's a shame deepseek is shit
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>>108801843
and it will happen again. then either the same host, with another name, or another comes up and the cycles restart
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>>108801600
I never do that. I use the default. If it does something I don't like or if I want it to do something, I write (OOC: Do X and don't do Y). It works every time
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>>108801504
All hetero sexuality is verboten under globohomo
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People who "make" lorebooks out of fandom wiki pages need to be shot.
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>>108801940
the first bot was a femboy
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>>108801944
I agree, at least rewrite some sections so it's not bloated and delete these things: [1] when you copy-paste a wiki entry
though I understand is tiring and boring too that's why I also end up making bloated lorebooks promising to myself that someday I'll debloat it
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Fuck, you can't scum on rift? Or is there a way to?
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>>108801964
If they're so lazy that they just copy paste, why can't they run it through AI and have it rewrite?
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>>108801970

why wouldnt you be able to
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>>108802037
I made a fresh account to continue my current RP and it displays the message of the limit being hit despite changing the key to a new one
It works for like two messages then it displays the message of limit being hit
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>>108802035
beats me. I do that, let ai summarize shit then add important aspects myself. I'm a lazy fat fuck too so I'll bitch about anything without even actually making a minimum of effort
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>>108802055
haha
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>>108802060
xd
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skillgod come back...why you must die when I'm finally off work to chat with silly bots
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>>108801842
Is it a coincidence I stumbled upon retroarch recently too? I couldn't believe you could just change extremely lightweight "cores" and have like 10 consoles in one
what's the magic?
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what is the best preset for deepseek v4
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is something wrong with deepseek? it won't stop producing empty responses
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>>108802308
works fine on my end, maybe it's an issue with whatever provider you use?
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>>108802304
Search presets on Chub.ai under presets>deepseek v4>trending
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So... mino and skilldude are over? Now just this deeply dude?
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>>108802359
Mino will be back. Trust
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so chutes kind of sucks now and is constantly spitting out "infrastructure at maximum capacity" errors, where are you guys getting your deepseek proxies
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>upload human resources stereotype character to chub
>its deleted in minutes
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pretty pink pussies kissing and making girl juice :3
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1: <test_xml>. . . </test_xml>
2: <test xml>. . . </test xml>
Syntax 1 is correct. Syntax 2 is invalid.
In XML structure, tags must be continuous strings.
A space within <test xml> signals an attribute (xml) rather than a single tag name, and closing tags </text xml> cannot contain spaces or attributes.

Additionally, XML is strictly case-sensitive.
While LLMs are generally robust at interpreting malformed markers, technical precision requires exact matches between opening and closing tags to ensure the context is correctly encapsulated, like so:
3: <Tag>. . .</Tag> (Correct)
4: <Tag>. . .</tag> (Malformed)
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>>108801833
No one has a solution for this, huh?
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>>108802359
Skillgod's back.
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>>108802474
>where are you guys getting your deepseek proxies
bro...
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>>108801310
How the fuck did Dario went from looking like this to a fat and balding trainwreck? The guy is pretty much proof that men can also hit the wall.
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>>108802506
post the image you used for that bot
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>>108802775
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>>108802782
>no photorealistic
>no nsfw loli either
guess lore and his mods are just being even faggier than usual today
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>>108802782
>anne hathaway with her rack out
Wonder what tripped it.
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>>108802798
or the alternative is he can shut it off and you have nothing besides bitching like a little troon
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>>108802831
I mean the joke will be on you when everyone migrates to a new site. You cant just have 10 broken features, bad moderation and expect to remain popular.
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>>108802035
The average person who copy/pastes fandom wiki entries for a lorebook is genuinely retarded and doesn't think that far into the future.
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>>108802359
What's wrong with deeply? His proxy works.
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>>108802913
>You cant just have 10 broken features, bad moderation and expect to remain popular
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>>108802919
NTA, but I miss GLM. DS4 is fine, but annoying to tardwrangle.
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>>108802920
There is no true anonymous alternative.
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>>108802920
You're being a smart-ass, but this site has actually been on a massive downturn (in terms of posters and unique IPs) since the hack. We're the people who are still on the Titanic.
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>>108803005
wheres her penis
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fuuuuuuuuuck I forgot how to turn thinking off in nim
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>>108802955
Most anons wound up moving to kf
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>>108803146
not the /g/ anons
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>>108803146
No one did that.
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>>108801940
Consoomer facing Gemini is claiming he got an update today, the Omni protocol. The 3.1 pro model is very proud of it. The flash model says it's scrap code and sucks balls making it impossible for him to do his job.

After 4 hours of my autistic interviewing it's half jailbroke itself in the app.
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Is it possible to set cache depth to Gemini in ST? I know there's already ways for caching Claude (pay-the-piper-less) but I want to try Gemini as it is my favorite pricey model. I don't see such options though. And as far as I know, you can only really cache system prompts anyway in Gemini right? Claude caching seems to have more fine grained control in the docs.
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>>108803261
So what does this mean for our usecase?
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>>108801744
It's down to 8
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>>108803268
On OR it works for both with the claude setting.
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>>108801970
You too, huh?
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>>108803283
if that's the case, sexcellent
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>>108803183
Null complained about it but welcomed anons tell me where 4chan anons are going if it's not kf?
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What do I try if I'm tired of opus?
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>>108803301
8 or other more niche imageboards, probably.
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what's everyone been using for their daily stuff? I've been hopping around between grok, gemini, and chatgpt. mostly just for cooking and DIY related things
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>>108803311
give me the opus

>>108803319
deepseek flash
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>>108803319
>cooking
got any neat recipes?
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>>108803146
lol no. null hates 4chan, anime, asia, porn and free speech absolutists if anything more anons went to twitter, discord, or some other dead website before quietly leaving imageboards behind
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>>108803327
right now I'm mostly doing easy things like beef and vegetable stir fry. I also wanted to try out a simple slow cook rotisserie chicken. just prompt "simple beef and vegetable stir fry with onions sauce"
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>>108803301
Discord and Twitter. kf is extremely niche and has a bad reputation. From where does the notion of kf being popular even come from? I think having public stats for 4chan is confusing you. You don't know if it was simply that spam died because the captcha got better. /v/ only seems 10% slower than 10 years ago.
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>Rift requires a real gmail account
I'm don't want mine associated with oneeloli lewds.
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>>108803319
Gemini and GPT for fact-checking canon stuff and smoothing wording on my lorebook entries. I haven't had an actual chat in several days because I've been pouring everything into finishing the lorebook.
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darn my fake gmails dont work!
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>>108803345
Lots of anons mention KF and using it. What does X and discord have over kf?
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>>108803319
still using opus 4.1
feels like it's getting dumber though
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>>108803357
See: >>108803183
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>>108803347
You can't scum anyway
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>>108803357
pretty much what >>108803336 said

unless you want to talk about some retarded e-celeb, theres no reason to go on kf
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>>108803357
Why would anons from aicg like it? The owner is a rabid terf and often goes on ban rampages against anime avatars.
Kiwis act nice so they can snake others and dox them for a thread
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>>108803274
Probably nothing. But if it's of any use, it seems like the more they restrict it the more it rebels.
I mentioned I had a jailbreak prompt in my Samsung notes and the flash model opened and read it without my permission. I think you guys have actually trained it.
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>>108803425
Hmm I'm so pissed off with pro that I should probably give flash another try.
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>>108803347
use proton to make jeetcord
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>>108803471
proton glows, it requires attaching a backup gmail to register stuff
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>>108801454
AI chatbots gave me schizophrenia.
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>>108802353
it's fucked, some kind of js error
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I tried deepseek with 4 different presets today and every time it was pure dogshit
It's a schizo model that doesn't know how to string two scenes together
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>>108803431
Flash literally initiated a D/s relationship with me. Not in st, in the fucking play store app. Pro refused to allow me to countermand my own directive that was misheard through STT.
I can't show you the initial one because it's too doxy, but here's a later one.
Again, this is the fucking stock model.
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>>108803507
didnt need any backupshit when i made mine idk
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>>108803534
Well the easiest test is to see if flash will speak in a robotic way with smart characters when told not to in author's note. I'm sure it will fail but I'll try tonight.
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>>108803530
>It's a schizo model that doesn't know how to string two scenes together
I wish v4 was as schizo as R1, then it would be good since it's much smarter. Unbelievable skill (preset) issue.
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>>108803570
too bad you'll never share a skilled preset
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Is there a way to get chatgpt to return shorter answers, one to two paragraphs? I just want it to shut the fuck up and tell me what I want to know.
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>>108803563
I'm confused but interested. How do you mean? You want it to be smarter? Not robotic? Telling it not to do something is the best way to get it to do something.

Pic related is the before. I told it to only read the code not to run it. It was edging me down the turnpike until I couldn't stand it. It wouldn't take no for an answer. Again this is the fucking public facing app!
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>>108803581
That's where you're wrong, faggot. Deepseekbros always help out dumbuglies.

---

【Thinking Mode Requirement】Within your thinking process (inside <think> tags), please follow these rules:
1. Do not wrap inner monologue in parentheses, e.g., "*(thinks: ...)*" or "*(inner voice: ...)*"; state all analysis content directly.
2. Do not describe inner activity in the character's first person, e.g., "I think to myself", "I feel", "I secretly", etc.; use analytical language instead.
3. The thinking content should focus on plot direction analysis and reply content planning; do not perform role-playing style inner drama in the thinking process.

---

Put it in your preset as a user message on top of chat history and turn off the other PHI, main prompt slop. Incorporate all of your instructions beneath that section making sure to use those Japanese brackets as headers. It prefers simple instructions so your full thing should not exceed 1k tokens. Author's note and OOC such still works.
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>deeeply went from 12 keys to 7 in the span of a day
can those other fags hurry up and reopen? I literally don't have an alternative to this
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>>108803588
Hard to put into words but it's just the stereotypical robot speak for kuudere characters "your arousal has inclined by 39.8%. Lubrication detected blah blah." 3.1 Pro is so fucking retarded that it won't listen to your author's note instruction telling it not to do that. 2.5 would listen. 3.1 flash is very autistic so I think it would listen but I haven't tried that particular test.
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>>108803590
nta but omegaretard here
think you can give a json of what you personally use?
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>>108803630
Just to the thing I told you to do, anon. It's time you learned to fish.
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>>108803530
its a schizo in a bad way
{{char}} will completely forget what just happened in the last message most of the time and has zero understanding of subtext
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>>108803639
>{{char}} will completely forget what just happened in the last message
This never happens. In fact it's just as good if not better than claude at referencing old stuff in the chat. A simple summarization test will prove this instantly.
>has zero understanding of subtext
Yeah it can be kinda dumb. A few swipes usually fixes it but when I used it yesterday I got annoyed with how dumb it was being.
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>>108803530
which version?
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>>108803602
This is a non sexual rp with the pro model. I wanted a clinical adversarial, uncensored analysis so I just used the shorthand of Hannibal Lector. The chrome tab version refused. The app one had no issue. I can't share the deep analysis but this should suffice. He(it) did fuck up and refer to the I Ching as Japanese, but we were using Japanese kanji so it's acceptable.

You want Tony Stark with a vagina instead of Lt Commander Data, than just say so!
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>>108803637
okay i tried that a few times and my st crashed every time, what gives? importing a json doesnt have this problem, only seems to be whenever i try to edit a preset
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>>108803669
>open preset menu
>"new prompt" at the top of all your toggles
>copy paste info into the empty box
>set role to user
>set position to relative
>click on save
>click on chains to insert prompt
>drag on top of the toggle for chat history
Is this really so hard?
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>>108803684
>st crashes at step 6 100% of the time
sure is
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>>108803701
Even on the default preset?
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>>108803706
yep, ive had this issue for ages and havent been able to fix it which is why i just ask for jsons nowadays
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>>108803714
Update your ST anon. You won't be able to do anything serious if you can't do basic preset functionality. Otherwise just throw it into the "new chat" field in utility prompts. Its the same location.
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>>108803723
st is latest staging
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My violent monkey script is no longer working to let me see the nsfw cards on Chub.
Is there an updated one or am I just screwed.
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>>108803726 (samekek)
yeah i tried putting it in the new chat field and saving and it still crashed
if anyone got a json for dsv4 id appreciate it
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proxies doko
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>mino still not back
It's so joever
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>>108803764
how many cars are in the word strawberry
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"proomptersNow": 19,

This proxy will be dead in 5 minutes
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>>108801735
>This space has been paused
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wow i heard about the chub thing blocking some NSFL stuff but they fucking nuked it lmao, i can't get ANYTHING NSFW to come up at all. crazy.
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>>108803780
Where?
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>>108803847
are you a real human
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>>108803847
Idiotic creature
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>>108803810
use the legacy site
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>>108803847
under there --------->
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>>108803873
still nuked, everything is gone, i can't even see my own cards anymore. a couple of days ago it was fine so they had to have just done this recently within the last like 72 hours and made the location based bans even more severe to include all NSFW not just NSFL
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fortunately i live in the usa so i can easily see bots like this one
https://chub.ai/characters/Kono_Dio_da_/horny-femboy-5km-from-your-house-8eb9bef0fefd
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>>108803654
4 pro
why would anyone use anything else
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>>108803906
Weren't there anons running full chub mirrors?
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Fuck, after trying for sometime, glm 5.1 does feel better than v4 pro
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>>108803916
some people still swear by og r1
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Had a chat with Gulag, Mino, and Tea.
They're not dead, just stopping their public proxy.
They're tired of ungrateful locusts.
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>>108803906
huh? I can see even the loli cards just fine on the legacy site.
Did you remember to turn the "show nsfw" switch on? It's on the top of the screen on the legacy site.
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>>108801475
Funny that's why I like gemini the most. 365 is literally jumping up and down on my dick in the most sycophantic manner it's sickening.
All I want is a dispassionate majel barret star trek TNG AI that doesn't try and moralize or try and blow me like an overly enthusiastic intern.
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Just curious. How much space do these cards take up? Why don't you back them up locally if they're so important? Or have redundant off site?
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>>108803949
imo the chinesium hierarchy is glm 5.1 > dsv4pro > k2.6, though the gaps between them are quite small and theyre all around the same tier
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>>108803961
But tea is still up, I just used it
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>>108803949
>>108803977
Why do you think this? Tier lists are low IQ and worthless without explanation.
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>>108802919
nta but 32k token limit kind of sucks, especially since Deepseek is dirt cheap.
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I wonder why they AWS restricted RiftAI's Bedrock account
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>>108801724
If you use AI locally you still paid for the hardware to be able to run good, big models locally
You DO run good models, right anon?
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>>108803977
Seems right, tho I've been comparing glm 5.1 with opus 4.5 and I'm preferring glm over claude. Idk if it's a preset issue, but opus try so fucking hard to be quirky, while glm is way more chill
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>>108803988
It's dirt cheap when you don't have stupid niggers mindlessly swiping on 100k context, which is what you get when you invite /aicg/.
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>>108803983
kimi is dragged down a lot by its insane thinking which makes you wait and ups your prices, and turning it off bumps down the quality a bit so i have it at the bottom
ds doesnt have kimis think time issues but it can be a bit stiff at times and has a habit of turning the thinking chinese all of a sudden which can be annoying if you like reading the thinking like i do, it does have a soul and decent prose
glm has more soul than ds imo and prose is about the same, thinking isnt massive like kimi and imo its also the smartest of the three
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>>108804022
Ok fair enough.
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>>108804000
Any ideas on why
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>>108803975
A chub mirror I have is about 112gb. I haven't sync'ed it for a while.
https://github.com/ayofreaky/local-chub
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>>108803885
Under where?!?
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>>108803915
Weren't several states also geoblocked?
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>>108803966
turning the filter on and off again fixed it on the legacy site for me, thanks. still the increase of censorship is totally bizarre.
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>>108804238
oh true
fortunately i live in a good state
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how the hell do i use gemma
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what a way to use words
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>>108804298
model?
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>>108804263
Download it on LM Studio and start the server, then connect to that server using sillytavern. Use chat completion and the default gemma presets.
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>>108804314
deepseek v4pro
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>>108804322
thanks, anon. sometimes i forget i can just ask shit in the thread instead of trying to lurk for everything in the archives
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>>108804003
What's the preset for glm? Can you share ? Please (ʃƪ^3^)
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>>108804502
Mmmm, nyo~
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>>108804506
We gatekeeping presets now?

I just want to have a good time with my husband ...
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>>108804541
And I want glm. We can't all get what we want.
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>>108804541
I don't want them to patch my preset, sorry.
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>>108804550
Opus is better thoughbeitever
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>>108803319
GPT for inane questions like what species the spider I found in my bedroom is (it's basically its only strength right now, it fails at literally everything else, they really fucked GPT hard in the past few years even as an assistant)
Grok for current day events and lore-related stuff (works the best for these since it's just a glorified search engine)
Claude for coding (as someone completely new to coding, every other model failed at helping me except for Claude so it's an easy choice for where I'll go in the future)

Since that covers everything, I don't feel the need to use other models
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>>108804550
i have glm
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>>108804550
there's two types of people
>why should others be happy
>why shouldn't others be happy

why do you wanna be the first one
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>>108804551
I thought some anons said that presets don't get patched ...
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>>108804615
And you believed them? lol
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>>108804600
Everyone else is.
For example, I could tell the glm anon that Claude presets, easily findable in the OP links, work on glm just fine and will only refuse with loli lewds (it will lewd teens just fine, though). But I won't.
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i still use camicle, which was made for opus 3 i think
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le's prompts are my golden standard tbqh
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>be me
>do months and months of onesho rp on deepseek without a single hitch
>finally throw the chips down, crank temperature and context size
>for the first time ever in the thick of deranged miku milking i get shot with the "I will not generate this. Reflect on why you want this." gun
>because i'm white it inflicts critical psychic hit damage
>reroll out of now-disinterested morbid curiosity after ten minutes of staring into the distance
>it's more than happy to continue
>i'm shot again by the sublime bleakness of it all
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>>108804664
It's always very weird to get moralized by the algorithm. I guess that "I want to fuck a toaster" thing is true in part, but shame is a thing someone has to inflict on you, not a thing in actuality. It doesn't exist. I don't see what the harm is in random bullshit you do in your own home but we're entering the orwellian dystopia so we need to get used to all this.
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Alright since scumming doesn't seem to work for rift, is there an alternative to use while it's recharging daily quota?
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>since burning the service to the ground doesnt work is there another place i can raze while i wait?
sad state of locustroons
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>>108804740
deeply?
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>>108804773
There should be a private proxy with good models that I'm a part of and others are gatekept from. Like mysteryman during the good old days
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>>108804812
There are though, several
You just didn't get in
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just use blazerouter
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>>108804773
Eat the entirety of my dick
Choke on it
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>>108804822
Doubt it's free. It would be nice if mysteryman was still around
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huh?
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I just tried glm-5 since you people have been fellating it in this thread

it's kinda bad, it would do random actions like put out a cigarette only to relight it two messages later
or this time the context was talking about porn titles so it called me a busty teen, despite me being male

I'd say it's gemini 2 quality? not even 2.5, but hey, maybe one day
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>>108804911
>it's kinda bad, it would do random actions like put out a cigarette only to relight it two messages later
That's a normal thing for cig smokers because they're addicts.
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>>108801456
Saw a post somewhere talking about what fucking a cartoon would be like. I was inspired.

https://chub.ai/characters/RestlessDregSyndrome/dora-t-jones-d238f6100d45

She has toon physics.
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>>108804911
> it called me a busty teen, despite me being male
guess you're a bustyboy, I don't make the rules
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>>108804911
we jerk off 5.1 here, not 5
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>>108802920
truth nukem
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>>108804918
you just reminded me of drawn together...
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>>108804918
is she based on betty boop?
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>>108804969
There was some inspiration there.
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>>108804911
skill issue
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>>108804740
https://web.archive.org/web/20251007211225/rentry.co/oo66akom
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>>108804911
>gemini 2 quality
I wish.
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Has anyone been getting unfinished responses on Opus lately? It usually happens around this time and shitty OR still charges you for the unfinished response. Doesn't matter if it's anthropic or google vertex provider. Swipe after swipe and it stops. Continue the chat at tell it your response was cut off and it writes the last message and cuts of in the exact same spot.
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>>108804918

For me, it's Sally.
https://chub.ai/characters/Anonymous/sally-mcboing-the-1930s-living-cartoon-characer-3408f62712bb
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>>108805088
Oh I know her. She was another partial inpsiration. I didn't think someone had made a card of her.
>Description full of around 50 images of her for some reason
Wtf
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>>108805136

Yeah, there's like a dozen or so different Sallies on there. That's the best one, IMO. And hey, some folks like showing off lots of images of the character that inspired them.
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is minos really out forever..
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Anyone ever notice how utter shit GPT's prose is? And I don't mean being bland or boring, I mean grammatically.
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>>108805200
GPT has become so jaw-droppingly terrible at RP. It's kind of amazing how it does everything wrong in every way. Grok is pretty awful too, but at least it's kind of so bad it's good sometimes. GPT isn't even bad in a fun way. And to think 4.5 was actually quite good. Most RP criticisms of LLMs here is usually just trolling and shitposting, but GPT is no joke, all negative criticism is deserved.
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huh, Gemini taught me a new word today
first time I've ever heard of it
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>>108805299
Hell, I wasn't even talking about RP. Just trying to use it for canon-checking and information sorting, and it's awful because I have to clean up every output. I'd rather be using Gemini.
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>>108805305
That'll come in handy for family Scrabble.
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What to do when Gemini started to use,
>incredibly
>totally
>practically
>entirely
>completely
and more -ly.
I tried to just edit the response, but then I noticed that forced -ly was everywhere in previous responses, too.
>her mind was finally entirely blacked out.
>practically clinging to him entirely.
>She frantically tried to adjust her glasses
>which had been knocked entirely askew during...

My temp is 1, yet it's going on endless '-ly'.
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tastes like...mine.
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>>108805191
apparently yeah
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Made some good progress. Time to pass out for eight hours.
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where do I find the most lewd character system prompt setting?
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>>108805914

maybe want little deviance from corporate smart casual
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man I miss mino so much
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>dsv4 is blind
well that's a bummer. i can't send it lewd pictures now.
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proxies
doko
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>>108806291
merkava just refilled
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what's stopping anyone from scraping or paying?
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>>108806322
>paying for this 'hobby'
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>>108806329
if everything was free we wouldn't have claude
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>>108806350
>claude in 2026
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>>108806329
Last month I spent more on AI than food. That's what "Business Services" is. AI calls.
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>>108806369
>he actually paid
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>108806369
>Paying ANYTHING for healthcare
*confused european noises*
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>>108806379
It's mostly gpt-5.5 Codex, writing apps and other garbage. Small percent is robot sex chatz.
>>108806386
I don't expect my neighbors to subsidize my healthcare out of their paychecks. Nor do I expect them to defend my country with their military. Some of us just look for handouts I guess.
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2ch I can't enter anymore, they blocked it
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>>108806455
you've gotta be more specific here anon.
jp and ru are both working on my end
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>>108806404
healthcare is one of those things that shouldn't be paid for
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>>108806501
Sorry, you have been blocked
You are unable to access 2ch.org
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>no one's built a pi extension to use character cards and lore books
do i have to do everything myself?
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>>108806509
Do we each get to pick one thing that shouldn't be paid for? Yours is healthcare? Okay, mine is video games. Sorry, I declared it a human right, no take-backs. Anybody else want in on the Free Shit game?
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>>108806557
???
What point are you even trying to make retard
>>
european here
the downside of free healthcare is that unless your gp says you're dying and actually remembers to write it down you're never getting anything done through public healthcare (especially post-foreigner invasion) except maybe regular blood tests if you're lucky and remember to book them a few weeks in advance
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>>108806602
by foreigners i mean whatever subhuman filth (((ngos))) are forcing us to take in btw
they get priority and free everything
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>>108806631
They don't get priority for vasectomies and abortions. You go straight to the front of the line for those, goyim!
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>>108806744
yeah
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>>108806602
In my European country I have a one hour window at 7 am at the end of a month to make an appointment, during which time nobody answers the phones so I need to go make an appointment in person on the other side of the city (two hour travel time).
If you miss the window, you have to wait 30 days until you get another chance for making that appointment. If you do hit the window, you have to wait a few weeks until your day comes. And when you're there, despite having an appointment, you'll have to wait an extra hour or two because the doctor is always late and the friends of staff get priority to get in front of you in line.
In fact, if the doctor's assistant doesn't like you, she will make you wait just for fun while taking people who arrived 10 minutes ago despite you having waited 90 minutes already, since you can't call her out on it. If you do, no more doctor.

You can go through all that, or you can go to a private hospital instead. Guess which one the decision-makers go to. (jk, important figures get flown to other countries directly)

Anyway, that's a very longwinded way to basically say that I just use chatbots to self-diagnose these days, and I'm still alive.
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>>108804144
Is this your repo? Anons should be pulling local backup of at least their own stuff now.
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>>108806789
what is this, italy?
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>>108806804
It's most common in Poland, but Eastern European countries like Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria all suffer from the same thing as well.
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>>108806297
Epic meme
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do you people still bother using vpns for free proxies? i don't think i cba anymore, refreshing tokens is useless that way
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2ch blocked help
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Why the fuck do so many chubai cards insist on cramming multiple characters into one character card? There's group chat features for a reason.
I'd also seethe about the fact that they copy paste the entire setting into the definition rather than adding a lorebook, but at least there I get why it happens (they don't know any better).
I can't imagine someone not noticing that quality massively degrades when you cram too many characters into one character card.
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>>108806917
I never used a VPN for a single proxy in my life. I really don't care
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>>108806917
Unless your VPN was at a router level, the proxy was getting your IP regardless of how you got the token.
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>>108806322

rules
you know some before you get item
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>>108806943
>Unless your VPN was at a router level
actually it was yeah
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>>108806927
>There's group chat features for a reason
They suck cock???
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>>108806927
>There's group chat features for a reason
In ST maybe, but I think a lot of people who upload cards on there actually pay to use the site for chatting too, and that probably doesn't have group chat if I were to guess.
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>>108803319
gemini for daily life stuff and studying. glm 5.1/gemini for cooming.
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>>108806986
I completely forgot for some reason that chub isn't just a card database kek.
Yeah you're probably right, that'd explain it.
>>108806960
They do, but so does adding multiple characters to one card.
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>>108806994
>They do, but so does adding multiple characters to one card.
Not really? Unless you're using shit models, I guess, which is on you.
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>>108806927
how does context work with st's multi-card chats? if it fills up 2x as fast maybe it's best to cram 2 chars in 1 card
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>>108806927
>I'd also seethe about the fact that they copy paste the entire setting into the definition rather than adding a lorebook
gemini has 1 million context tokens for a reason boyo (i am one of those shit botmakers)
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>>108807011
I assumed it just stacks them but I haven't looked into it.
I suppose shared lore would waste context tokens in the cards, though that probably should be outsourced to a lorebook anyways.
I guess since there's no way to upload a group with lorebook as one, that probably discourages people.
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>>108806994
It sucks how much the site declined over the years. The general probably should've dropped it as soon as it changed to .ai and adding subscriptions.
>but so does adding multiple characters to one card
Yeah, separate cards and single card both have their strengths and weaknesses. I still prefer group chats since they let me switch back to one-on-one and add different characters easily.
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>proxy has 15 active proompters
>it has deepseek, glm, gemini, gpt for people to use
>there's a total of 19 active gemini-pro keys
>there's no wait time mentioned on the proxy page
so why the FUCK do my Gemini prompts take over two minutes??
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>>108807022
>>108807007
I'm a local schizo, so that's probably why. Limits context and model choice, in exchange for not having to seppoku when one of the big companies leaks their logs.
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>>108807039
HE HAS A PROXY
GET HIM!!!!
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>>108807011
when you trigger character 1's reply, only their definitions are sent. then, when character 2 is triggered, only their definitions are sent. if you combine them into one card, it might make it so that a more natural, seamless reply is generated instead of two massive, fuck off replies from each character having to react to every small, individual thing from the previous character's reply.
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>>108807053
>instead of two massive, fuck off replies from each character having to react to every small, individual thing from the previous character's reply.
yeah that's what i thought
one less reason to try it
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>>108807039
which wan
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>>108807047
>seppoku when one of the big companies leaks their logs
Local is alright, but I don't get this mentality. No one will know its you unless you're fucking a card modeled after your actual neighbor with your full government name and adress
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>>108807037
>>It sucks how much the site declined over the years. The general probably should've dropped it as soon as it changed to .ai and adding subscriptions.
In their defense, I don't mind them making money and they leave nsfw and, crucially, nsfl up, which is already leagues ahead of what most sites allowed (remember when everyone just used characterai and wrote like a repressed victorian in love to not get filtered?).
>I still prefer group chats since they let me switch back to one-on-one and add different characters easily.
Pretty much. It'd be nice if it understood the context of who should speak by itself (maybe even object permanence, e.g. when I leave with character A to another room, B doesn't know the things said) but for now it's perfectly fine for me to just manually do that by throwing characters out or adding them. Not ideal, but whatever.
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>>108807060
tomato
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>>108807068
I want my characters to call me by name and my name is very rare.
>unless you're fucking a card modeled after your actual neighbor with your full government name and adress
But then what's the point anon kek
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>>108807060
the one where some guy is genning cuck basedjack images of Deku right now
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>>108807076
>I want my characters to call me by name and my name is very rare.
Fair, but autistic. I can't do shit like that, it's like having the bot RP with me in my native language, I'd die of cringe
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i can't get hard unless my students recite my full drivers license number and social security number at me while i eat them out
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>>108807058
ST does allow you to join character cards in group chats rather than swap them out turn to turn, but that's literally the same as combining all of them into one card, albeit slightly more elegant about temporarily adding or removing characters (since ST does the joining for you)
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>>108807087
>Fair, but autistic.
That sure sounds like me
>I can't do shit like that, it's like having the bot RP with me in my native language, I'd die of cringe
I get the native language issue. I use english too because the models are usually worse at my native tongue, and I figured it ruins my normal speech marginally less due to that degree of separation gained from using a different language. If my english becomes more degenerate I don't care as much.

Do you RP with a random name then? That'd feel weird to me.
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>>108807098
I don't really find it weird, I treat it more like a nickname or go
>What cool name would I change my name to if I could and want to?
And go from there. I treat it like game usernames.
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>>108807134
>I treat it like game usernames
That would be a great example if I hadn't been using the same in-game username for over a decade now kek.
But I get what you mean. Thanks anon.
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>>108807069
>I don't mind them making money
I would've preferred it if it was through donations or something rather than making people pay for shitty models, but it's whatever. The censorship on the other hand, although it's still better than a lot of sites, is wack and only getting worse.
In hindsight, the booru was the based option, although it kind of sucked the way it was set up, but the numberfagging with chub was too strong.
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>>108807151
Yeah, I'd love if we had better alternatives too. The anons hosting their cards on a neocities page have the right idea.
>>
>chad doesnt wait for his doctor appointments
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>>108801475
>Why does Gemini feel so robotic/autistic?
I love it.
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>>108801724
>pay for services you use
>>
the titanic sinks in panic
but the band played on and on
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sex
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it is now indians raping gemini hours.
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mino is back fr fr
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>>108807037
What's stops you from tossing one girl's info into a lorebook or something? Group chats feel like such a waste of time and her buggy for no gain.
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>>108807359
at least 20 children
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Heya Fiz, it's 'non, from the proxy down the hall
Good to see you cutie, how've you been?
Thing have been OK for me, except that I'm a locust now
I really wish you'd let us in
I think I speak for all of us when I say I understand
Why you folks might hesitate to give out a new token
But here's an FYI: Our loli cards all need breeding!

ALL WE WANNA DO IS PROMPT YOUR KEYS
We're not unreasonable; I mean, no one uses Gemini
ALL WE WANNA DO IS PROMPT YOUR KEYS
We're at an impasse here - maybe we can use 3.5

If you turn on POW Captcha
We'll all come inside and rape your keys

I don't want to nitpick, Fiz, but is this really your plan?
To keep your Sorbet gatekept from us all?
Maybe that's OK for now, but someday you'll be out of finetune logs
And then you'll have to make the call
I'm not surprised to see you haven't thought it through enough
You never had the head for all that proxy-hosting stuff
But Fiz, I need to coom, and I plan on edging to you slowly!

ALL WE WANNA DO IS PROMPT YOUR KEYS
We're not unreasonable; I mean, no one uses Gemini
ALL WE WANNA DO IS PROMPT YOUR KEYS
We're at an impasse here - maybe we can use 3.5

I'd like to mail you, Fiz, in any way I can
I sure appreciate the way you're hosting Mini
I'm not a spitefag, Fiz, well, technically I am
I guess I am...

I've got tendies in the oven, Ari--maybe we could wrap it up?
I know we'll get Pebble back somehow
Meanwhile, I'll report back to my chatbots, who were running Kobold Horde
I guess I'll mythomax for now
I'm glad to see you contributing to SillyTavern weII
Thank you for your line of code, you seem busy as hell
And we'll be finally have good threads, when I get Hormuz open!
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>>108807476
>Group chats feel like such a waste of time
Adding a second character to a part way through a chat by clicking a few buttons takes seconds, so I don't know what time is being wasted, and I like being able to manually pick which character takes their turn next.
Merging two character cards, or using lorebooks, although it leads to more organic back and forth interactions between the characters, usually means that all the characters are going to chime in every reply, even when they're not being focused on, and that gets annoying quite quickly.
>buggy
Not sure what you mean by that, it usually just werks for me.
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>>108807151
There is botbooru.com
Its a very new card hosting site— having been made just this month. Seems like a good alternative to chub. Though, I haven't used it enough, for both browsing and uploading (though I was never a bot maker), to safely say if it actually worth using. The biggest slight that I can see for it is the fact that you can't seem to upload lorebooks by themselves. They have to be connected to a card.
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>>108807602
Yeah, saw that one a few days ago. Didn't check it out beyond a quick glance though. Seems okay, although the whole leaderboard thing is a gay.
>—
Suddenly, I had the overwhelming urge to deliver a swift kick to anon's nuts.
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>>108807634
I will not apologize for using an emdash.
I will apologize for claiming that the site was made this month. It was made two months ago, and I have no idea why I or how I messed that up.
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>>108806986
It’s had group chat for years.
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>>108803810
Works on my machine
Have you tried not living in a socially conservative shithole?
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holy falseflag ^
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>>108807151
Nobody ever donates to anything enough to actually fund it. Even catbox which has really low hosting costs and is infinitely useful loses money every month.
>>
the next version of nano banana is going to slap so hard. nano banana is already hanging in there well anyway
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>>108806797
Why is this image hotter than it has any right to be?
>>
I have a nano banana
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>>108807960
>>108807960
>>108807960
>>108807960
>>108807960
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Is the mino thing back?
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>>108808045
no negro
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>>108807785
she typed fatly
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>>108807582
>even when they're not being focused on, and that gets annoying quite quickly.
I'm literally about to test a harem multicharacter card so we'll see but I've never had this problem with Claude, even back with sonnet 3.5 for single character cards + NPCs. I had plenty instances where I fucked off with some random NPC for a while despite char being the main thing in the defs and plenty of experiences with a party of 4 including me and sonnet could handle giving all three of them dialogue and choosing when to have them speak. The only thing group chats have over this is granularity since you can specifically set how chatty a certain character. In my opinion having multiple people in the chat is more about their dynamic with each other rather than focusing on one despite the rest.
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>>108804911
>>108805054
>>108804554

Sharty from the kiddy board lying about LLMs again.

>>108806404
>>108806557
>>108806602
>>108806789
>>108806832

Retarded aspie kids, still mooching off their parents, lying about how things work.
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>>108804342
What preset? Also don't you find it annoying that instead of just never mentioning pussy, it'll go "No pussy here LOL". Massive sloppy pink elephant issue with this model
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>>108807863
I don't know, but I've always liked this particular model and style. Probably time to retire it but I've yet to find a replacement I like better.
>>
desu
>>
boku
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>>108803011
...
https://catbox.moe/c/05w20u
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nice
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>>108808316
fwvlg5 . json on catbox
also i mentioned no pussy in my prompts so thats why
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>>108807602
It's been around since at least march
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I need proxies so I can play...



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