NO MORE GLOBAL RAM SHORTAGES!WAHOO!
if they sell good products then the hyperscalers just go and secure all of available supply
>>108804212all they have to do is say "no thanks" and refuse to sell to them right? of course they probably will never do that lol but im just saying, in theory thats all it would really take
>>108804226why would they do that? even if enterprise customers dry up, which they wont, they never will for the future of computing, even if the companies that abandoned consumers pivoted back the consumers will instantly forgive them and buy from them again. literally no punishment because the companies can just say "it happened because of ai" and shirk all responsibility.
>>108804179Woah, more competition and cheaper ram prices? Muttsisters won't like this
>>108804179>*WINK WINK* data centers
>>108804179My pc is busted at the moment so if it is ram failure then I might be spending less money than I thought.Thanks China!If it is a gpu failure then it will hurt me.
thank you for saving us communism!
>>108804226Tahts' the beautiful part, because of Blumpf tariffs, its not legal to use just ANY DDR5 in AI datacenters. It could be sabotaged you see, for the children, and Israel.Pay up for Taiwanese RAM, goy.
ok but what about the timey wimeys
>>108804464honestly? who cares, they weren't great to begin with
>>108804325What fucking responsibility or punishments retard? This is a company not a public agency, they exist to make profits and if the consoomer public isn’t ready to match hyperinflated AI company prices then they’re not getting the RAMAmericans are so proud of their so-called free market, well here’s an example of it
NOOOO MY RACKETSTOP
DDR5-1333
>>108804472i cares tho. i want to downgrade to 64gb single rank from 96gb dual rank but im not ganna pay ridiculous prices or settle for worse overall performance.
>>108804226Chyynaa turn down money? Lmao. They're less communist than most liberal democrats
Crazy to think that China is now less than a year behind in RAM tech. Used to be behind in solar, wind, drones, telecoms (5G) and EVs, and now they're ahead. We'll see if they can be the first to get to DDR6.I think if they weren't sanctioned by the US and were allowed to have EUVs, they'd be right up there with TSMC and Samsung at making 3nm.
>>108804179ueag everything else I have risked buying from china that is not near obsolete and is more than assembly work has been fake, defective or just broken. Nope the fuck out on this
>>108804179Didn’t some South Korean dude get jailed for selling the secrets to China?
>>108804585And some dude got arrested by TSMC for selling 2nm chip secrets to Japan.
>>108804179COOL POST A LINK WHERE I CAN BUY THEM FAGGOT
>RDIMMi got bad news
>>108804179>another chink lieCan we see it ?
>>108804179>cheapanon... they will sell them at $2 less than the competitors.
>>108804179Implessive...
>>108804212They have viruses embedded that would make any US hyperscaler a no-go. It would exclude the entire facility from any sort of government contracts, so I don’t think companies buying them up will be an issue
>>108804325you're an entitled shit you know that?
>>108804369America doesn't make much ram, it's made in korea.
>>108804939china is the donald trump of technology. all kinds of fantasy tweets but nothing ever shows up.
>>108804179What's the catch?>It's ChineseI don't really care, but there must be something else to it
>>108804226>sell ram to gamer manchildren at lower than market value;or>sell ram to corporate customers with near infinite demand and deep pocketsHmm I hate making money so I know what I would do
>>108805528You're competing with 1.4 billion first dibs customers as the production just started and it hasn't ramped up 1000 times initial volume. Unless you're over there for a trip and you just happened to buy a bunch and take home with you.
>>108804179Yeah, but consider this...>1 year warranty
>>108804179youre unironically retarded if you think they would sell it for a low price when it will sell out instantly with a high price
As stated by others>>108804939They aren't manufacturing DRAM, they make just make the sticks, there are plenty of chink companies that do this already. Though it seems that the pure domestic ones will be using CXMT DRAM.>>108804464Attached
>>108804179Not reliable or ECC
I'll believe it when I see it benchmarked & memtested.Chinese tech is full of false promises and lousy Western/Taiwanese knockoffs.
>>108805151and bought up by NSA fronts so users worldwide don't have access to dangerous unsupervised compute at home
wake me up when this chart moves downwardswhere's all the retards from /g/ who were screaming about a RAM price crash a few weeks back saying it's a nothingburger?
>>108804179...and now there are 4 oligarchs
>>108805528it was probably developed on stolen samsung IP with no understanding on how it works fundamentally. so they won't be able to improve it all that much and eventually fade to irrelevance
>>108804179All China needs to do is mature the 10nm process and dominate markets outside the West. EUV is an unnecessary bloat. The GPU bubble is a total FOMO-driven sham, proving nothing more than the fact that AI researchers are complete amateurs when it comes to hardware and ASICs. It is pure FOMO. Even the TPU barely meets the minimum standards for simplicity and optimization. By hard-wiring LLM weights directly into the circuitry, as Taalas is doing, power consumption can be reduced to 1/100th. Pure, simple ASICs will inevitably win.
>>108806819AFAIU, there is a big difference between inference and training. inference can use little power, training does not, and these corporate language models need constant training.
>>108807572Look it’s not his fault the PooSA decided to babysit niggers and women and drain all your value through a welfare state instead of build a functional society
>>108806162Lmao
>>108807989>a welfare stateyou mean corporate welfare right?
>>108804226>say "no thanks" and refuse to sellThat's not how capitalism works. Everything is to be sacrificed in exchange for money. Everything. Until there's nothing left.Money is the real paperclip.
>>108804179Woohoo cheap capacitors are here
>>108807989China has a welfare state too. Americans just can't do anything right
>>108808775>China has a welfare state tooYeah, but unlike America's version they don't just pay skids to commit crimes.
>>108804546That's because unlike logic circuits, memory chips are hitting a lithographic wall no one has really overcome, so density scaling has slowed to a crawl over the last 5 years. They caught up because DRAM is a simpler architecture that hasn't progressed as fast and doesn't absolutely require EUV to function. Those Chinese chips also have an abysmal wafer yield from having to use insane amounts of DUV multi-patterning just to reach baseline EUV densities. When it comes to actual logic, the gap with the West has actually widened from 5 years to about 6-7. Chang isn't catching up, he's just putting in a lot of work to look like he is. But like many things in Asia is just to save face.
Bullish, Just bought 150k USD worth of micron, hynix and samsung
>>108804477ram is available in the entire world not just the usa numbnuts, it isn't even manufactured in the usa.
>>108808918you bought here btw
>>108809315LINE GO UP!
>>108804179God bless china and the chinese and chinese technology and huawei and moore threads and SMIC and shenzhen and chinese taiwan and chinese tibet and the chinese government and all good communists in china and god bless the 'made in china 2025' initiative and god bless the mandate of heaven and xi jinping. amen. and god bless.
>>108804226>all they have to do is say "no thanks" and refuse to sell to themBabby's first economics lesson lol
>>108808892>When it comes to actual logic, the gap with the West has actually widened from 5 years to about 6-7.The gap is infinite until they figure out the optics. But they did get a gigantic, warehouse sized EUV light source up and running a few months ago.
>>108804179Already tested their suppliers.It breaks early.Stop being such a fucking nigger.I want to rip your throat out.
so where is China getting the Cheyenne sand from? Cuz it aint Cheyenne. There is no way it will be stable.
>>108804212Not economical to compete with other hyperscalers unless they are using HBM
>>108809315if you did that with intel at $20 last year, all time would show the same it would be 4000%, 15000% in the 2000, 13000% in 2020-2023Now it's 28000%>>108812147Nope, they will just leap frog the west with photonics. Transistors are a local minima
>>108804939Laptops were already started using chink RAM since December last year.Desktop DRAM for gaymer, however, probably not.
ye ye i tried so hard to get cxmt ram and couldn'tnothingburger
>>108805988Grim
