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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8

>CPU
Gaming: 250K, 14600K, 9/7600X, 7/9800X3D
-Budget: 225F, 7500F, 12600K
Workstation: 270K

*Avoid Ascrock motherboards on AM5
*New sockets likely next year
*On Raptor Lake microcode updates are mandatory, avoid second-hand

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-6, MX-7, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet
*Most listings online are not actually 7950

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt, 5060
-Used: 2080, 2080ti
*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080p
Midrange: 5070, 9070
-Used: 3080, 3080ti
4k : 5070ti, 9070xt
-5090

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED)
4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

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Think for yourself. Do not blindly trust advice given here.

>A /pcbg/ for every use case and budget!

>Price tracking
RAM: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/ram-price-index-2026-lowest-price-on-ddr5-and-ddr4-memory-of-all-capacities
SSD: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/ssd-price-tracking-2026-lowest-price-on-every-m-2-ssd
GPU: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/lowest-gpu-prices-tracking

>GPU hierarchy 2026
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps: https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide: https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism: https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Alternate to pcpartpicker: https://pangoly.com/en/pc-builder
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Pack it up DSC is finished
https://youtu.be/jTIDmyTpzkE?t=72
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>>108808010
Fake news? idk I refuse to watch lol
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>>108808038
>YCbCr422
>13.5Gbps
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why do you niggas need 48 gb of ram
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>>108806375
Tomahawk gang! What Fractal case?
>>108806389
>Post the rear cables.
Don't, it's a trap.
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>>108808052
pagefile off
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>>108808016
>amd we need a 5090 competitor, it would be so easy and you could solidify yourself as an actual competitor to nvidia instead of doomed to dying
>
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>>108808043
oled bros....
nvidia bros...
intel bros....
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>>108808084
60 and 70 class gpus are the most common gpus to be sold. halo producs are a waste of time and money.
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This is why your mouse feels "heavy"
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are AMD gpus a decent alternative for nvdia ones? the price gap is gigantic
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what's the correct monitor size for 4k ultrawide?
seems like 34" matches a 27" for PPI.
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>>108808146
They're the knock off brand. Do you want fruit loops or colored grain circles?
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>>108808146
Nvidia GPUs are knock off brand now. It's like how League of Legends surpassed Dota.
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>>108807945
>owning a pc
bloat
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>>108808157
and I think the other common 4k resolution is 32", which seems to be matched by 40"
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>5600x
>4070S
>48GB ram
Can I do 1440p?
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>>108808043
>xhe fell for the OLED meme
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>>108808163
>>108808183
>knock off brand
effeminate, irrational and emotional argument
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>>108808146
AMD gpus are so much better unless you specifically need CUDA or NVENC.
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>>108808231
and those features are only worth it on 5080 and up which are $1300-3000.
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>>108808231
wasn't that already worked out? can't i just use ROCm for most shit
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>>108808235
>5080 for anything
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>>108807945
Aw shit is that a faded ding chavez on the shroud?
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>>108808043
>20ms
source: it came to me in a dream
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>>108808205
of course
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>>108808277
ROCm is for AI. There are stuff that explicitly requires Tensor Cores/CUDA. For example Tensor RIFE.
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>>108808043
K e K
e
K
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>>108808277
APIs exist for a reason learn what they are.
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>>108808428
they are tied to windows. they are not free.
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>>108808146
Everything is fairly priced, there is no free lunch. An RX 9070 XT is more expensive than an RTX 5070 but gets you slightly better performance. The RTX 5070 Ti gets you better performance but you have to pay more. Above this it's all Nvidia, AMD doesn't have a competing product.
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>>108808428
There's literally 0 reason to buy anything other than Nvidia + Intel in the year 2026
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>>108808441
9070xt mogs the 5070
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>>108808450
>Nvidia + Intel
qöq
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>>108808454
>9070xt mogs the 5070
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>>108808487
>so like in four games in two of which it looks like complete ass
>and the other two are slop
great. not going to buy a gpu because of that one benchmark. 0 good games with rtx btw. they are all mid.
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>>108808497
The grain issue in pragmata and re9 is fixed by just using a different rr preset
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>>108808514
so both games are slop? can't even make games with all that nvidia money. they need the user to fix issues on their end.
>yeah i bought this fancy new gpu for ray tracing
>yes i have to fix stuff on it instead of just using the feature i payed for
>how many games use it?
>four!
>four?
>yeah...
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>>108808487
>1440p DLSS Quality (960p)
>48 fps
You're not using path tracing on 5070 either.
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>>108808532
Actually sweety it's like 20 with more on the way
>>108808551
>Just uses balanced preset and mfg
what now gay boy?
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>>108808497
>New games run like ass, even on Nvidia cards.
>AMD cards don't even support half the shit in new games.
>Old games still run fine on older hardware.
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I know that's still years ahead, but what exactly is micro RGB LED?

tldr is it like non-organic OLED?
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>>108808043
oh well if nozy2828 said so on youtube is must be true
5 upboats too
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both ray tracing and path tracing promised nvidia users real time ray tracing.
better lighting, better image quality, better shadows, better sound, better reflections, and better games.
both are still gimped versions of it with a bunch of marketing running at sub 1080p resolutions eight years later.
lmao hahahaha. at least emulation is good these days.
>>108808575
>fake frame cope
hahahahahahahahahaaha
>Actually sweety it's like 20 with more on the way
how many are good and worth playing?
>>108808577
gimp. you like gimp tech.
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>>108808104
No it is because of dsc.
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>>108808575
>>Just uses balanced preset and mfg
>what now gay boy?
That's still just 55 real frames
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This is why you should avoid radeon cards - this sort of image quality is only possible via dlss.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emp_4Tlzggo
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>>108808623
looks just like fh5 and fh4
still slop
still bad
still nothing to do
still not a good game
still shit driving and shit design
still gets mogged by gran turismo on the povertystation
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>>108808620
Looks fine to me
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>>108808146
even at 0$ dollars for amd gpu, nvidia is a better value proposition

>>108808157
depends on your distance to display

>>108808010
>>108808043
>>108808087
>>108808104
>>108808611
DSC Schizo goes into the bin

>>108808052
5090 can barely run 5k2k displays in gaymes, capping out the vram, you need more literally

>>108808038
summary
>pro dsc video
>telling retards to use correct cables if they wanna use dp2.1 without dsc
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I don't even know what DSC is.
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>>108808711
it allows nvidia to gimp you
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>>108808277
ROCm is trash it only works on literal supercomputers
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>check a case
>max PSU length 200mm
>seasonic prime tx is 210mm
Are MSI or NZXT PSUs any good? C1500 seems to be very high rated everywhere but I barely know NZXT
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>>108808711
don't worry about it kitten
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>>108808711
>>108808104
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>>108808711
compressing video signal so u can pump more bandwidth over cable
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>>108808711
It's a humiliation ritual forced by Nvidia having an inferior display controller than AMD.
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>>108808711
It adds lags and makes your visuals worse. Retards will claim its not but they are blind and their opinion is null.
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Why the fuck is someone spamming shit about dsc now, what happened?
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>>108808428
I'll literally slit your throat irl you retarded schizonigger, you waste of oxygen I'll choke the shit out of your skinnyfat neck
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what companies should I look out for when looking for an SSD? are we at the point where I can buy any SSD I see on amazon and be fine?
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>>108808829
the niggermods still haven't permabanned the literal schizonigger, who desperately needs to be euthanized
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>>108808765
ok yaaaay :3
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>>108808829
he gets instabanned when he starts posting his 5070ti spam so the troon has switched to this dsc memery
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>>108808885
good girl
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>>108808829
DSC literally sucks
https://forums.blurbusters.com/viewtopic.php?t=14097&sid=27008f2b2503553a577007f071353208&start=10
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Dick Sucking Compression because Nvidia used DP 1.4 on 4090
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Will I regret getting a liquid cooler for the 9800X3D?

I tried two BeQuiet Silent Loop 3, and both boxes are badly squashed and generally dirty. I'm worried about hidden dents. Haven't isntalled them yet, waiting for the motherboard (ProArt B850).

I am starting to consider getting a Noctua NH-D15 G2 instead. Just finding hard to accept putting such an enormous cooler in the middle of the Fractal North. I was going for aesthetics with the motherboard choice. But noise is extremely important for me too.
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>>108808947
Phantom Spirit is totally fine for a 9800X3D and it's quiet. You can just change the fan curve if any cooler you purchase is too loud.
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>>108808947
Btw I also got a PNY 5080, fucking amazing how cool it runs just passively without even the fans on.
Fuck those MSI and ASUS marketing influencer cheapo garbage. They all had coil whine or fan buzzing. You are literally trading build quality for all the marketing they do. The PNY was even as cheap as the Ventus.
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>>108808967
>Phantom Spirit
Isn't the Noctua better? Also I prefer it for aesthetics, it matches the style of the case and motherboard.

Will a liquid cooler actually be more quiet than the NH-D15 G2 for the 9800X3D when gaming?
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>>108808947
AMD's CPUs just have dogshit thermals.
You can only mitigate the problem so much, and it's not worth chasing the dragon to shave a few degrees from the temps.

Get a cooler you like the look of, you can stand the sound of and doesn't idle over 50c, and that's really the best you can hope for.
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>>108808819
>NV has full DP2.1 bandwidth
>Amd doesnt even have it

>>108808824
Dsc schizo into the bin

>>108808829
new schizo unlocked

>>108808924
>Stated monitor issue not dsc issue in thread
next

>>108808947
if you want your cpu to run +10c for the entire lifetime and listen to the fan ramping on the tower cooler + 1.5kg thingy on your mobo hanging off it sure
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>>108808985
The Noctua is 3x the price for basically the same performance. Some liquid coolers will be quieter, check YouTube for benchmarks that compare them and measure noise. One thing you have to remember is air coolers only have fans to make noise, so you can swap out the fans if needed, but liquid coolers have a pump as well as fans that make noise.

If you're gaming with headphones on you'll probably never hear your cooler, my 9800X3D with Phantom Spirit is totally silent under normal usage, but I have it set to ramp up and it can be clearly audible during load from gaming.
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>>108808924
>see the copy pasted post in this thread that dsc schizo used in last thread
I mean I borderline knew it's all bait and retardposting, but for what purpose?
what mental illness drives a person to this state ?
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>>108809012
>if you want your cpu to run +10c for the entire lifetime and listen to the fan ramping on the tower cooler + 1.5kg thingy on your mobo hanging off it sure
Yes I hate the fan ramping up that my currrent air cooler does (ARCTIC Freezer 34), it's really annoying.
Which liquid cooler do you recommend? I need silence above all else.
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>>108809023
as in, this post, remember dsc shizo using half baked posts to bait

another monitor bug
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Noctua is making an AIO? when is that coming out
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>>108808750
Usually brands like MSI, Asus, Corsair or NZXT don't manufacture any power supplies in house, but instead order off the shelf or semi-custom models from various OEM companies like Channel Well Technology, slap their brand sticker on it and sell it to you at a markup.

So when you ask "is brand X" good the unfortunate answer is usually: it depends.

Most are mixed bags of various models from various platforms.

Seasonic and Super Flower are actual manufacturers of PSUs that are really good and sell them under their own name (though Super Flower was formerly marketed under the EVGA brand in the North American market).

For MSI and NZXT you really have to look at the model (and revision) in question.
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>>108809034
>>108809023
>>108809012
Only retards defend DSC
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>>108809099
Thanks. I seriously never heard of super flow either. I saw that their PSUs are highly rated too so maybe I'll check them
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so done with these fucking driver issues on my 5070 ti. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones ITT when my screen went black and I had to turn my whole pc off. im rmaing and switching to 9070 xt fuck it idc anymore
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>>108809032
just get any 360mm or 420mm if space
does it even matter now a days? anything super non shit should be good
arctic freezer or something else that is on sale
everyone has different "features"

>>108809147
nigga has a vandetta against dsc for some reason
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So SICK and FUCKING TIRED of these MOTHERFUCKING DXGI HUNG CRASHES ON MY 5090
I WANT MY MONEY BACK JENSEN YOU TAIWANESE JEW MOTHERFUCKER
I TOOK OUT A 3K LOAN ON MY ROG ASTRAL FOR THIS?!?!
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>>108809212
no 5090 owner ever said that
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>>108809223
Those graphics look like shit worse than some PS4 games. Nvidiots are paying thousands of dollars for that?
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>>108809229
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>>108809229
it is literally a PS4 game
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>>108809229
well, it is a PS4 game ported over.
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>>108809238
Uncharted 3 2011 and tomb raider 2013 running sub 1080p resolution on PS3 had better looking foliage than that try again
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imagine shilling for a controlled opposition company
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Hello everyone, I'm having trouble with my computer related to the Nvidia graphics driver. Recently, I've been experiencing frequent crashes and screen flickering, and I suspect the driver might be the cause. I've tried reinstalling the driver a couple of times but the issue persists. The device manager shows an error with the Nvidia driver, and Windows sometimes fails to recognize the GPU properly. If anyone has encountered similar problems or knows how to fix Nvidia driver issues, I would really appreciate your advice. Any tips on how to completely remove and reinstall the driver or suggestions for stable driver versions would be very helpful. Thanks in advance for your support!
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>>108809263
not about the game but the dlss
anyway
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I know MLID is an AMD shill but he said rdna5 will "wildly" faster than the 50 series and that 60 series doesn't come out until 2028/9
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>ai generated
he's losing it
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>>108809263
PS3 games looked amazing because the textures were extremely high quality but the lighting was terrible
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>>108809298
>AI gen
Holy shit you're evolving
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>>108809305
If your super slop sampling that is supposed to be magic can't make the game look better than one from 2011 that was rendering below HD than clearly it isn't as good as you are making it out to be with your shilling. I hope jensen doesn't pay you your daily wage of 1 rupee for this pathetic advertising
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I'm not really sure where to ask but does anyone have any recommendations on microphones? my replacement is kind of shitty. I've been using a snowball ever since my gaming headset (Arctis Nova 3 I think) withered away from overuse and I got a FiiO FT1 instead of another shitty headset that'll fail on me in four years.
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>>108809309
You are glossing over the context to that to misrepresent what he said.
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>>108809338
he LITERALLY said that, word for word
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>>108809318
schizophrenic tier arguments and assumptions, you make zero sense here
nah bratha, this ain't it
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>>108809341
Context motherfucker, do you understand this? Rhetorical question.
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why do you think the 4chan admins havent already added accounts
surely they know the website had its run by now with the way malicious actors have taken over
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>>108809332
>I am 17
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS
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I'm not buying amd trash :)
simple as
>assmedia usb controller
lol
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I can't believe I got shilled by fucking niggers in this thread that told me AM5 tax wasn't worth it and Raptor Lake "was such great value" I fucking hate my 14700k this thing is garbage in escape from tarkov. Now it's too late to swap to AM5 and 9800x3d because of ddr5 ram prices. I hope all the intel shills ITT get ebola and shit blood out their asshole until they die
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>>108809371
(Responding to bait post most likely)
Jewfus sends his regards
It's widely known if you gonna dibble dabbel you start of with AMD platform since you can sell it and recoup your costs but going from intel you cant do the same because the normie consensus

now to the points

>4000 ddr4
wonder how bad this is crippling the shit

but yeah x3d for tarkov seems good
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>>108809381
why didnt some kind sound take a hammer to your fathers testicles as a kid and save us from your wrath
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>>108809389
All you and the other intelaviv shills ITT that have being pushing 13 and 14th gen raptor poo lake since the ram crisis started used the fact that they can use ddr4 as a selling point. When the reality is to get passable performance out of those chips you need an unlocked k cpu ddr5 8000, Z series mobo and to spend a month tuning your memory and ring bus or wtf ever it's called. All still to lose to 7800x3d in some games, but hey at least you can brag on r/intel with your epic cinebench record
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>>108809404
why can't you guys just be respectful to radeon owners and let them be part of pcbg discussion in peace and not make fun of them for their gpu choice they had their own good reasons for? then I wouldn't have to punish you all for your pridefulness and sins.
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>>108809435
>why can't we let retards into the discussion?
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>>108809499
It's called /pcbg/ pc building general not /nvpcbg/ this thread isn't meant to be an echo chamber for jensen cock suckers. That's why you nvidiot fanboys need to either go back to r/nvidia or split and make your own /nvpcbg/ thread
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>>108809181
>>108809212
>>108809298
>>108809332
>>108809371
>>108809435
finally getting my sex reassignment surgery next month after years of waiting
genuinely the happiest ive ever been
decided to celebrate by building my dream pc
bought a 9070xt and a 9950x3d
spend entire evening staring lovingly at gpu the box like it contains the future
install card
immediate driver timeout
ok fine whatever first day jitters
update drivers
black screen
reboot
adrenaline software asks me 900 questions about HYPR-RX gamer mode turbo ultra instinct edition
game crashes compiling shaders

start laughing uncontrollably because this is somehow the most gender affirming experience imaginable
transitioning my body and troubleshooting unstable amd drivers at the same time both involve forums, weird acronyms, emotional breakdowns, and strangers telling me “just give it a few months”
honestly still happier than ive ever been though
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>>108809368
snitch
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>>108809337
I had the Roccat Microphone which was decent enough but I can't remember how good it operates without their software. Shure is too expensive I guess
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>>108809542
finally getting my sex reassignment surgery next month after years of waiting
genuinely the happiest ive ever been
decided to celebrate by building my dream pc
bought a 5070ti and a 250k
spend entire evening staring lovingly at gpu the box like it contains the future
install card
immediate driver timeout
ok fine whatever first day jitters
update drivers
black screen
reboot
Nvidia App asks me 900 questions about DLSS Reflex gamer mode turbo ultra instinct edition
game crashes compiling shaders

start laughing uncontrollably because this is somehow the most gender affirming experience imaginable
transitioning my body and troubleshooting unstable geforce drivers at the same time both involve forums, weird acronyms, emotional breakdowns, and strangers telling me “just give it a few months”
honestly still happier than ive ever been though
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>>108809181
I got mine this week and I'm fucking loving it.
Last PC was a GTX 1080 and other than that I've been consigned to a PS5 for nee games.
Playing Pragmata at 4k with ray tracing and getting 120fps is like going from a bath full of piss to a bath full of champagne.
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Can anyone identify this AIO?
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why AMD no 9070 XTX you've betrayed us
nobody wants 8GB bullshit
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>>108809691
no one buys expensive amd gpus

if they have the money they need cuda and nvidia software feautres
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>>108809698
Steam hardware survey shows nobody buys AMD gpus regardless of price lmao.
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>>108809691
They aren't beating 5090 with a binned up clocked 9070 xt
5080 and 5070 ti are both no stock + horrible value at their current prices, and supers are cancelled. 5070 is 12gb junk.
They don't need to release anything higher than 9070 xt
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>>108809709
statistics lie
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>>108809734
I got prompt to respond to the steam survey the other day and I have 3080
I declined, this way amd looks better on the survey
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>>108809740
get a 9070 :D
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>>108809751
I wouldnt use one even if I got it for free
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>>108809754
see >>108809510
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>>108809740
Enjoying 10gb of vram that can't run new games at 1440p without turning down the textures to poo poo mode? 6800xt with fsr4 optiscaler mogs your shit card made on scamdungs dogshit 8nm node.
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>>108809776
buying a 5070 ti doesnt seem big enough improvement while costing a lot, so why bother, Ill wait for 60xx
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>>108809776
based
love my blender AMDs
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>>108809776
>10gb of vram that can't run new games at 1440p without turning down the textures to poo poo mode?
Name one example. Literally just one
>Resident evil or indy
Nope
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>>108809719
5080 is literally the same price every -80 series card has been.
It's cheaper than the 4080 was at launch, and about the same price as the 3080.
Even going back to the 1080, there's only about $90 in it.
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>/pcbg/ pc brand wars general edition #999999
Do you retarded fanboys ever get tired of having the same sperg arguments over and over about pcie display adapters. This thread became unusable since early 2025 and every time I check it it's the same shit no improvement
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this nigga sounds like the two lunatics in /spg/
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>>108809801
Well you need to email 4chan admin to add accounts and real id verification, this way the users will have some tools to hide the spam
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>>108809801
The funniest part about this all is there is literally nobody who has used both the 9070XT and the 5070Ti, 5080, or 5090.
They're literally just parroting dumb shit paid shills on Youtube have been saying.
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>>108809801
>This thread became unusable since early 2025
I wonder what happened itt around that mark
>>108809812
I've used all 4 because I'm basically a flipper/scalper at this point
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>>108809369
truth nuke
>>108809389
>Responding to bait post most likely
you can point and laugh but he truly believes everything he says
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>>108809793
>Name an example!!
>But you can't use the games where it's a problem as an example!!!
Lmao I accept your concession
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>>108809855
There's literally no difference in the textures for the games at letting take 10gb vs taking 20gb.
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>10GB of vram is fine bro don't worry about it.
>Can't run rtx games now on his rtx card with this pathetic vram buffer.
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>>108809887
the 10gb gpu launched in 2020
I'll buy a >10gb gpu when I buy my next one in 2028
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I dropped 10k on rtx 6000 pro Blackwell and had nonstop driver issues with stable diffusion and shit just crashing halfway through gens and now today the card just fully died and won't post. Nvidia support is now trying to scam me out of my warranty saying all the 6000 pros are stressed thoroughly and I must have had faulty power delivery or some other cause that's my fault and killed the card (I know for a fact this is not the case)
Should I sue?
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>>108809997
>>108809565
>>108809542
>>108809510
>>108809435
>>108809417
>>108809371
>>108809332
>>108809298
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>>108809417
a 13600k was free so yeah
14900k over a 5800x3d seems better for ddr4 if you had to choose yes
"Pushing" idk

it works for esports might get cucked in other due to the ddr5 bandwith meme like here, if these stats make sense

if you have money for ddr5 what even is the thing?

>in some games

untuned yeah x3d always wins we already know this also

>>108809369
remember those guys that complained about amd cpus coudlnt handle 8000hz polling devices? turns out it was the mobo usb controllers all along cucking the platform

making entire system stutter.....
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>>108810041
>remember those guys that complained about amd cpus coudlnt handle 8000hz polling devices? turns out it was the mobo usb controllers all along cucking the platform
still does
AMD gave 8khz mice a bad rep
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>>108810041
>14900k
14900K is never a good option unless you need the multicore. For gaming, lesser chips like the 14600K are essentially as fast
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>>108810107
use the red plugs you tard
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>>108810138
it doesn't matter what port you use
both are minimum spec asmedia garbage
only intel designs their own USB controllers and chipsets
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>>108810107
Look at Amazon top sellers no one gives a fuck and all the craptel garbage you jeets shill nonstop no one wants it. 8khz mice are a meme anyway so this is a none issue. 1khz your mouse is already polling to the pc every 1ms that's more than enough.
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>>108810166
>every 1ms that's more than enough.
I thought you were an ultra pro gaymer that's ultra sensitive to latency?
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>>108810166
weren't you sperging out about millennial reaction times earlier this week? lmao
i mean yeah they are kind of a meme but it's a non issue if you're on intel, there's no downside to using 8khz
it's embarrassing that AMD still doesn't have proper USB support after 10 years, there are still several sound cards that only work on intel
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It's embarrassing that Nvidia still has broken DSC
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>>108810184
>>108810194
Donk the GOAT aimer doesn't need more than 1khz
If it's enough for him it's enough for anyone
Latency is very important but eventually it's non existent returns and you are beyond the limits of human reaction times
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>>108810272
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>>108810292
>Changing the subject
I accept your concession. X3D is proven in literally hundreds of benchmarks to be better than any craptel dogshit pulling 300 watts both for average fps and frametimes. Donk is an expert on counter strike not on pc hardware and how it performs
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>>108810272
makes sense to save battery on wireless
you're still missing the point
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>>108810306
Also niko and many other pros use x3d
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>>108810272
>windows sensitivity 4
Now that is the mark of slav style.
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>general continues to be allowed to be spammed to death by one ban evading schizo
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>>108807945
I'd leave out the recommendation for 2x 24GB fren, that never going to be good or optimal compared to 2x16 or 2x32, not the way DDR5 works
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>>108808052
You don't you need 32, or 64.
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>>108810135
I have an i5-14400 and its fine (with DDR5)
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>>108809683
Using the google reverse image search right below your image shows the answer. ALSEYE Infinity i360 liquid CPU cooler
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>>108809997
Sounds like you put it in a desktop motherboard
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>>108810331
My terms remain the same
Either
>Leave all radeon owners alone in these threads and stop harassing them and saying their hardware choices they made for their own perfectly good reasons alone are bad
Or
>Permanently split the general into /nvpcbg/ and /amdpcbg/ so both sides can live segregated in peace
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>>108808010
>>108808087
You guys told me DSC was fine but apparently its not
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>>108810166
>those prices
is pc buildan a rich man's hobby now?
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>have a 7900xtx
>absolutely hate amd with a passion because of how jewy they are being about fsr4
>every day think about selling it for about 500 really fast and get a 5080
>5080 has 16gb of vram
why couldn't the 5080 just have 20gb of vram? ffs I hate this market
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>>108810373
lmao not joining you in the radeon general
it's gonna be you and that one dude who still tries to shill the XTX
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>>108810413
They've been gimping ram ever since the 2 series.
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>>108810413
>every day think about selling it for about 500 really fast
?????
they go for $1000 easily on used market
all 24gb gpus are except the 3090 (cuz its a fat old dying piece of shit)
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please
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>>108810413
>>108810451
Yeah $950-1000 is the going rate for refurbed/used 7900xtx now.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/296384065250?_trksid=p4375194.c102726.m162918
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>>108810424
Not true there are lots of radeon owners who post in /pcbg/ sometimes they just don't post here much because they don't have the autistic willpower to deal with the 3 nvidijeets we have here shilling against amd cards nonstop in every thread. They would start posting more in a general where they can discuss their PC and hardware without being harassed by shitposter nvidiots.
>one dude who still tries to shill the XTX
There is nothing wrong with XTX if you aren't stupid and can use optiscaler a simple mod but it's too expensive even on the used market so it makes no sense over a new 9070 xt or even non xt, that is why it will never be in my OP
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>>108810373
>>Leave all radeon owners alone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xe0BayQQuc
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>>108810451
>>108810466
WTF? why would anyone pay 1k for a used 7900xtx???
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>>108810497
reading comprehension
no one wants to join you, specifically
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>>108810511
Cheapest way to get 24gb vram.
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>>108810511
You literally cannot read? That's the going rate for all 24gb gpus except the 3090 because it is a huge piece of shit
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>>108810511
It's literally faster than the 9070xt. It's still the fastest consumer AMD GPU. a 7900XTX on Linux is faster than a 5090 on Windows where it matters.
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>>108810531
3090 is back to $1000
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>>108810511
Because it beats the 5080 and a 5080 is $1300-1800.

>>108810558
Nope they're $600-700 now. It is a huge piece of shit card. Do some basic research on it. It has lots of issues.
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>>108810567
>Nope they're $600-700 now
Where.
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>>108810517
w-whatever!!! i-it's not like i wanted any of you to come to my thread a-anyway!!!
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>>108810569
pinduoduo
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>>108810552
>It's literally faster than the 9070xt. It's still the fastest consumer AMD GPU
But what if you wanna turn on Raytracing AMD xixster?
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>>108810552
this poster has never proven that he has linux installed
or that he even owns a 7900 XTX
probably on a 7600 XT or something
>>108810570
don't lie, we know you love the attention
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>>108810511
LLM models.

Personally I'm just slowly building up fans and a case and a 1200 watt PSU and DD5, a blu ray M writer and media and seeing what intel and nvidia are up to in 2027. I'm impressed the ultras but don't want to get stuck with 1850 and I think I'm looking for something with 50+ Cores PCIe 5 and a GPU that works by design with that. I have a 14h gen and a 16GB 5060 until then. I think it's too early in the tech cycle to invest in an LLM local machine and it risks becoming obsolete scrap too fast. The local step is to give these gext generation cards an additional M2 connector +PCIE 5 and blowout PCIe bus speeds to work with 50+ core CPUs with big caches. dropping monne on any system whether AMD or Intel this year is dead money, unless it is gaming and realistically all ou need is a 14h gen i5 and a 16GB 5060 for that and if you multimonitor 32GB of DDR5.
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>>108810570
Well leave this one then
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>>108810615
>7900 XTX for LLM
Careful you're gonna set off all the nvidiots that think cuda is mandatory for AI. All they know is stable diffusion to make their shit goon gens for their porn addiction they have no idea what rocm or comfy ui is. I personally spent a few racks on a dual raden r9700 AI pro setup and it's been great for my professional workflow.
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>>108810597
If you think proving a linux install means anything you are not into tech to begin with. It is riddled with exploits. All operating systems these days are pretty shit including linux are shit, posting a picture of a bucket of a certain share of poop to try and virtue signal just means you are a seeking belonging and should never have been here to begin with. You smell of wanna be eleceb namefaggotry and probably think a PC is for editinng 144K footage of your pimpley face for people to like and subscibe to. There are people lurking this board that have checked code into major kernels for decades. You are not one of them because you bought a 'special gaymer card that does the graphics' and have a linux box.
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>>108810670
didn't read all that but if you're shilling linux you better have a linux install lmao
not like any of that matters when your only goal is to be an annoying faggot
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We are a third of the way through 2026 and JeetForce rebar is still dogshit
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>>108810661
I've been playing around with tensorflow in C for five years anon. CUDA is actually pretty kewl, so is openvino but now intel and nvdia and shaping yp to be the wintel of AI and I want to see what they do. I know it's going to take a lot of watts and cooling so I will get on with a another really nice 1200 even 1300 watt PSU and a nice case and good fans and that for my next build while I wait and if DDR5 drops a bit I'll pick up more 32GB sticks. Either that or do a server build and I'm really curious about what's coming and the ultra2s were very promising. In the same way as GPUs got more power connectors, more cores means that aside form PCIe 5.0 the more bandwith you can give them the better so something like a fly connector to an NVME slot would really make a card on a 50 core CPU fly.

We're be entering the era of 'make me a movie like star wars but with the gladiator plot, and throw in some pornographic scenes please" after a few minutes you get a chouce of scripts and it after a few hours you get your movie. Holographic avatar peripherals. We're in the future bros, we're jolly green nerds walking the earth with 120mm fans
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>>108810677
>didn't read all that
Ritalin or Adderal?
Your parents drug you and give you money for PC parts because they want you to just go away.
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>>108810679
Can we see this with absolute FPS rather than relative?
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>>108810708
ok i read your gibberish now
point still stands
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>>108810679
Yeah faggot but your listing fucking gaymes and shite ones at that as your metric of everything and that era is fucking gone. Nod if you understand? You wanna know why? Because with access to source and models next gen LLMs will be able to shit out GTA IV in space via a query. As regards slop like you and a space heater led light abomination for gayiminng, you will be shuffled off to where you always belonged onto a cloud portal device where you pay to subscibe for remote computing resources running online onnly server only gaymes . You are already half way there, you are a steam user.
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>>108810724
>ok i read your gibberish now
>>108810708
>Ritalin or Adderal?
Or a generic clone made in India with some contaminants.
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If the entire thread is llm bots shitting it up endlessly what are the admins gonna do
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>>108810751
So you think I'm an LLM?

Hilarious.
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>>108810702
>Holographic avatar peripherals

samefag
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>>108810751
>what are the admins gonna do
What they do every night pinky; nothing.
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>>108810702
>Holographic avatar peripherals.
samefag

random example of now
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Good you've all stoped B8ing and are looking at holgraphic avatars and new gooning possibilities,

>>108810702
>We're be entering the era of 'make me a movie like star wars but with the gladiator plot, and throw in some pornographic scenes please" after a few minutes you get a chouce of scripts and it after a few hours you get your movie. Holographic avatar peripherals. We're in the future bros, we're jolly green nerds walking the earth with 120mm fans
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Can I generate my own manga or anime yet that's on par quality with Production IG or Ufotable?
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>>108810955
you can make about 5 second clips and using qwen edit or something make the characters follow a skeleton mesh you created
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A world without DSC
https://streamable.com/px6rli
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>>108810720
yeah
0.1% lows at 25fps on the 3080
0.01% lows of 15fps on the 3080
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>>108811327
that's just corpo slop from 2005, cucksoomer
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>>108809719
>supers are cancelled
Do we know that or have they just been postponed to 2027?
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>>108810525
That's not the 3090
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>>108809417
Intel users love training their "ring" ;)
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>>108811427
Not him, but they were essentially going to be higher VRAM variants (3 GB modules). Cancelled
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>>108811593
I think the 5070 Ti was supposed to also get a core boost.
Besides, don't RAM modules cost about the same irrespective of their capacity (which is why they're pushing HUDIMMs)?
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Who here is waiting for the 5090 Ti Super 96gb?
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What are the signs of when a PSU goes bad? I never really hear anything about early warning PSU failures or checking programs.
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>>108811625
that already exists THO
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>>108811719
Power off events and random hard crashes where previously there was none, that's the most you can really tell and then its you guessing its caused by the PSU rather than anything else. They can pop a cap and fail spectacularly one day with no recognizable warning. That's why cheaping out on PSUs is the last thing you do when cutting costs.
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>>108811730
Too bad the FE pcb sucks ass and can't go above 600w safely
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>>108811745
do you really want 2 housefire cables? you know nvidia wouldnt allow for anything else.
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>>108811399
in 2005 you didnt need dsc.
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>>108811812
>consumerism but old
disgusting
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>>108811785
Sure why not
Having twelve cables carrying 12v beats only having six of them
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Noctua, spit on that thing
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yeah, rdna5 is looking great, but I only buy a gpu after the next gen comes out so I know how much better it is and I pay far less, so only 2029 upgrade for me
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nicotroon still ban evading?
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>>108811823
man. the logistical problems are too vast to get into here but just ponder why power supplies with 2 native 12vhpwr cables are exceedingly rare.
i was under the assumption you werent serious from the beginning. is that not true? are you being serious?
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I'm still on a build from 2018, but upgraded to a R7 5700X and RTX 3080 several years ago. I play at 1440p on a G-Sync monitor. Was looking at potentially doing a new build but I see prices are crazy right now. Newegg has a couple combos that look pretty heavily discounted:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4869574
https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4869568

9850X3D and 5070ti seems like a bit of a weird pairing, but with prices being what they are, seems like a good discount if I'm looking to buy right now, no? Wanted to run it by people who have been watching the market since I have not been paying attention for a good while.
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>>108811980
terrible time to buy a computer, yours is fine for gaming
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>>108811861
amd won next gen. only IHV with full directx13 support. nvidia and intel are too busy becoming the next wintel as in dinosaur tech.
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>>108812035
amd still needs to clean up their act and throw fsr4 on the old gpus otherwise people will still be cautious with them
but yeah, rdna5 comes out early 2028, means by early 2029 it'll be cheapish enough that will be worth buying
I actually want amd to stay unpopular because it forces them to have lower prices
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>>108812092
I want to believe the only reason FSR4 isnt on old cards yet is because of some Sony deal.
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>>108812115
I genuinely believed it was a valve thing, that they would launch the machine alongside fsr4 on rdna3 and it would be huge for valve, it can still happen
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>>108812119
They probably want to help Valve and Sony and Microsoft ship their crap out first and when thats all sorted out Microsoft can be like look its on PC now thanks to DirectSR.
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>find a brand new still in box rog strix motherboard for less than half the price it's listed for at a flea market
>install it just fine, works amazing
>clean my old gigabyte aorus dickhead board
>use a q-tip slightly dipped in isopropyl alcohol to clean the mounting bracket
>a loose fiber the size of a mosquito's dick manages to catch on to one of the pins
yes i'm mad
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>>108812322
should i take it to a place or am i fucked
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>>108812325
someone can unbend it
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>>108812325
get some fine tweezers and bend it back, if it snaps then shake it out and make sure its not in the socket, seat your CPU and pray its not a vital pin (nothing bad will happen it will just not POST)
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>>108812368
i don't got tweezers and i have the hands of a maraca player
repairs here are cheap and my dad knows the owner of a repair place rip
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>>108812401
ok
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Are we ever going to get new GPUs/CPUs
I wanted to build a new PC at the end of the year but I don't really want to play MSRP+30% for 2 year old parts
Fucking faggot ass world
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>>108812584
*NEW* rtx3060 12gb 2026 edition
*NEW* Ryzen 7 5800x3d 10th anniversary
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>>108812609
9050 is going to mog the 3060 8gb
5800x3d is not happening
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all am5 usb issues are just retards who undervolt their cpus by too much btw. same goes for driver time outs on the 9070xt or it being unstable.
both of them run mostly fine when undervolted but become unstable when under fluctuating loads.
both can be stable when tested with furmark and prime95 but under gaming loads they start to give in and become unstable.
all my usb issues with 3.2 etc are gone. my 9070xt issues also gone. i run both stock now. even mild undervolts can push cpus and gpus.
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>>108812632
doesn't matter what test. stress on linux, cpu-z, cinebench, prime95, intel burn test, occt, etc
same goes for furmark, 3dmark, heaven, occt, msi combuster, etc.
all stable until you start playing a game with an unlimted frame cap at high fps, low fps, normal fps. there is always a game that makes the gpu or cpu unstable with no pattern. steam hw acceleration with their stupid animations even.
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>>108811719
>What are the signs of when a PSU goes bad?
noisy fan, swollen capaciors smell of burning,
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>>108812584
>Are we ever going to get newCPUs
https://newsroom.intel.com/client-computing/intel-announces-new-intel-core-ultra-200s-plus-series-desktop-processors

Core Ultra 7 270K Plus
Intel Core Ultra 200S Plus
March 11, 2026
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Is there not a way to mate older GDDR technology to newer GPU cores? I'm thinking that instead of 3060s with 12GB, it would be 5060s with those same memory modules chucked in.
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>need to buy more didedotated wam
>mfw the website still shows the old out of stock listings where 16GB of DDR4 was like 40 bucks
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>>108812694
yes its quite easy but it requires taping out which is millions of dollars, whereas re-releasing an older design on the same node it was originally on with the same cheaper ram is just as a matter of using the existing taped out design
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>>108812632
yes most AMD issues are PEBCAK
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>>108812632
a -30 undervolt all cores is 100% worth it, even with those tiny issues
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>buy $500 psu
>here's a chance at our monthly fiddy bucks giveaway
Does anyone actually do this shit?
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>>108812774
personally I prefer a working computer over one that is 2% faster
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>>108812911
same, two years from now when I get random crash I don't want to be thinking if it was caused by oc and have to start digging up which settings I've changed, what were the defaults and whatever
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>>108812774
it comes down to the cpu. even just -5 on my 7950x3d with only it's x3d cores enabled makes my usb 3.2 ports unstable. makes sense it already runs at 5.2ghz. 7800x3d would prob be fine. some would probably go for the 9850x3d prob. not much room for an undervolt.
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>>108812845
I hate this kind of thing but how many actually do this each month? Odds might be pretty good to win
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>>108812989
I don't hate it, it's not as if I bought the thing expecting a bonus, I just think it's dumb.
Maybe it's just annoying me because it looks the same as something like
>sign up for our newsletter for your chance at winning a $50 gift card!!!
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>>108813041
the steps literally ask you to sign up for their newsletter so it is
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>>108813046
lol, I only read the part about sharing your system
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anyone ever RMA'd corsair ram? they have a limited lifetime warranty. i have a 32gb ddr4 kit i bought years ago that was DOA and i never got around to sending it back. gonna try my luck.
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>>108812989
the odds are zero because no one ever pays out raffles just like the lottery being absolutely fake. you're a goy
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>>108807945
How's the market for PC building these days? Is it a fucking awful time to upgrade still?

Last time I looked at parts I considered jumping from
>2080S
>16gb DDR4 3000mhz
>i7 9700k
To something like
>5080
>32gb DDR5 6000mhz
>Ryzen 7 9800X3D
Is this retarded? I don't know practically anything about PC parts. What little I knew I memory holed when ram prices skyrocketed
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>>108813314
Outside of ddr5 costing like 500$ nothing has changed much.
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>>108807945
I so regret not buying 4090 - decided yeah whatever Ill buy it later
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Are you fucking me??? Might as well just take the hit and platform hop to am5.
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>>108813314
AM5 is an amazing and relatively cheap platform. even with a +500 dollar memory tax or more, you are getting something that has never ever been available in computing except AM4
>intel
you will have your mind blown by AM4 or 5 on linux
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Do CPUs often blow peoples minds?
I feel like for most people an i5 would do everything they need and won't bottleneck anything but high end cards at 1080p.
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>>108813448
cause GPU manufacturers do their own thing. Some have the sense pins of the connector at top, others at the bottom and then you have Nvidia itself with their weird angled connector to make sure you don't use something like the wireview.
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>>108813501
> relatively cheap platform
People raged when it launched because it was expensive, though ultimately the reason for that expense (at the time) is a good thing for consumers and AMD learning their lesson from AM4's legacy and the drama that caused them.
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>visit /pcbg/ for pc building advice and info
>300 posts of fanboy warring
every time, gets old fast
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Is there any chance of ddr5 going down? Are the so-dimm sticks frankensteined onto desktop sticks good or scam?
>>
I was interested in AM5 when it came out but a big factor for me is idle/desktop power consumption and thermals. I want the quietest, most power efficient platform possible while browsing. Should I just go for Intel?
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I admit defeat. I bought second ddr5 2x16GB kit but could not get it to work.
They seemed similar(same name, except with rgb) but the my original kit was dual rank so I was mixing dual rank and single rank. They also had different pmic.
I was able to make them boot 3600MT but going beyond that was impossible. Even with relaxed subtimings and 3600 p95 crashed it in minutes. When I upped the voltage, I wasn't even able to make it trough memory training. Yeah 3600 36cl vsoc 1.2 vmem 1.35 didn't even get trough memory training.
I continue living as 32gblet
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Are these things pieces of shit? They seem like the kind of thing that would be a piece of shit
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>>108813699
>while browsing
you should go with arm
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>>108813863
>no 12V
lel. I could see something like this being useful for open airs or memecases and only if it had a very large number of connectors. This is just a generic old atx with extra steps.
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>>108813495
Not surprised they never went down in price once released like the other models.
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>>108813938
you could buy them for 350 at some point i think.
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>>108813946
You could of bought a 5700x3d for around 150-60. I'm glad I grabbed one.
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but /g/ told me x3d was a meme only useful for canned benchmarks
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>>108813963
/g/ is always wrong
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>>108813963
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>>108814010
5800x3d still mogs the 285k in some games
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>>108814019
>in some [ingame benchmarks that do not represent real world play]
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>>108814019
no
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>>108814025
>cpu from 2022 still mogs intels flagship
>reee not real
>reee fake
might as well get a 9600x then. same shit.
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>>108813858
What do you want 64 gb for? How will you use it?
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>>108813858
>3600MT
nice, I could only get 2000 when I tried to do a 2x8gb + 1x16gb.
It worked fine with 8gb + 16gb at full 4800 speeds, but I just returned it since $70 CAD is too much for a 8gb of ram, plus it didn't fix the problem I was trying to search for, which is windows 11 explorer.exe rebooting.
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>>108814038
android jeet studio hello world level project + few web browser tabs it feels like I'm already at 32GB limits
I hate having to police how many tabs I have open
and AI shit
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>>108814075
100+ tabs in edge, clion with 20 tabs, VS studio open with 10 tabs, firefox open with 2 tabs, 10 explorer folder open.
16gb of ram and my average uptime is between weeks and months, I don't remember having a single unexpected freeze or crash (other than explorer.exe restarting, it used to reboot almost every day, but I think even though I stopped updating windows 11 for years, the explorer has stopped crashing as frequently, I think explorer.exe gets updated along with edge because explorer.exe uses webview, and webview is edge).
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>>108814038
Not that guy but AI
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I have baked a new thread 5 posts early, because this one moved pretty fast. Must be a lot of thoughtful discussions and new pc builds
>>108814147
>>108814147
>>108814147
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>>108814019
Don't cope in public amdbro, it's sad.
For now just admit we're cooked and rub your balls together for good luck so next gen AMD is actually competitive.
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>>108814038
Ai
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>>108814174
even the 5800x3d is still competitive against intels best
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>>108814172
No you baked it early cuz you're the same fat nigger that's been early baking for the past month because you thi k /pcbg/ is your subreddit and only you can make the new threads
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>>108814174
>next gen AMD is actually competitive.
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>>108814190
My hand was forced
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>>108814174
>>108814191
See amazon best sellers >>108810166
No one wants intel garbage
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>>108814206
Explain this
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>>108813576
>I feel like for most people an i5 would do everything they need and won't bottleneck anything but high end cards at 1080p.
You're not wrong
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>>108814231
huge install base. just show pre ryzen numbers. and now look at the ammount of people on steam.
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>>108814231
ancient devices, retard
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>>108814243
>>108814245
>it doesn't count!
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>>108814275
it counts. just not in the way you meant it. are you retarded? everyone knows this. >>108814232
only you want to make some point and win with this stat but you don't know how it came to be.
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>>108808043
>>108808325
Got a source for it?
Surely if it was true there would be more than a single screencap of a twitter post getting reposted here as a source?
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>>108814290
The frog and family goy goyslop spammer isn't honest at all. He is just here to spam threads shilling for intelaviv and njudea until around 300 posts when he'll early bake his next shill OP
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>>108814231
intel 12-14th gen is way cheaper than AMD + you can buy ddr4. I have a 12100f because it was $70 + energy efficient so you don't need a custom cooler and has 80% of the gaming FPS as a 7600x in worst case scenarios.
but those 12th gen CPU's are 6~ years old. They might even stop producing them (they announced end of life, but I don't know if they actually stopped making them).
sadly we don't have numbers for the newer intel CPU's, honestly I don't even remember what the new intel cpu's are called, it should've just been 15th gen.
but considering the cheapest 15th+ gen intel CPU is the same price, if not more expensive, I don't think people have a gaming reason to buy intel.
productivity, sure, but the 12100f is one of the worst at blender CPU rendering, but the 15th gen CPU's are good I heard.
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>>108814301
>Got a youtuber influencer I can trust?
no bitch turn it off on your monitor and feel it yourself
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>>108814327
13+14 is still rolling for a good part though. they STILL burn out.
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>>108814332
>No, it can't be tested with instruments, but I can FEEL exactly 20ms of extra latency. Trust your eyesss!
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>>108814363
the average person is so retarded they think 60fps = 16.6ms but the frametime says different
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>>108814363
Many monitors have DSC ON or OFF
OFF feels better than ON
you dont need a youtuber to yap in your ear for 16 minutes
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>>108814350
higher power 13-14th gen intel CPU's match AMD's cpu's in gaming and maybe price, they were not very competitive anyways, and the "15th" gen intel CPU's are a bit pricey but they should match the higher end 13-14th gen cpu's in price (13th and 14th gen were not that cheap at msrp, only occasional deep discounts would help).
I consider the i3 i4 i5 to be lower power, and it's usually cheaper than the 7600x/9600x, and they did not have a problem with the oxidization (or whatever) from what people have said.
And ddr5 is equal to ddr4 in price for a while at least before the recent shortage, so in the past there was no cost-per-frame reason to avoid AMD in price if you were aiming for a higher end PC (like a $500+ gpu).
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>>108814363
>>108814332
>>108814409
>feel it yourself
>OFF feels better than ON
You guys are retarded
the retard referring to the dsc off it was a monitor problem that was solved
DSC Schizo goes into the bin
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the tv pill is over
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>>108814010
still beaten by the 7800x3d is embarrassing
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>>108814231
explain why that graph shows consistent market share growth for AMD



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