ITT: Lost technologies
>>108810841That always impressed me much
>>108810841I'm a business guy working in Asia and my parents work in Europe I wish I could use picrel to see them more often
>>108810841I still have an XJACK WiFi card even though I no longer own a device I can use it in.
>>108810841ok but that looks retarded
>>108811077Why would it be?It works with the 1 height cards, it's a smart move, no?
>>108810984I believe you can go to your nearest airport and find at least 1 (one) airplane. Are you stupid?
>>108810996Same, I've got it in my Compaq Armada.
>>108811077Everything else required either that you remove the card when not in use, or carry an adapter cable with you.
heh earlier versions of the ps2 had firewire
Remember gameport?
>>108811223I have a laptop with with the 4 pin but even when it was new all my peripherals were USB.I also don't think it was labeled as firewire, it was called something else. The logo was a little "i". What was it ever used for?
>>108811248Sony's branding for mini-FireWire to connect to DV camcorders and miniDisc players was "i.LINK".
>>108811252That explains it. It's a Sony VAIO, and the "i.LINK" logo is identical to the one on the laptop. Thanks.
>>108811243>Remember gameport?I do
>>108811077looks cool
>>108811434>duplex fibre for 120 kbpszamn
>>108811201Are you stupid?
>>108810841ModemsISDNPCMCIAISAJumpers (not the wooly kind)MinitelCEEFAXHam RadioWootz SteelAOLLawn dartsMySpaceBeeboWAPSerial PortsParallel PortsSoundcardsMice that had ballsOptical MediaMusic CDs8mm projectorsBASICRingtonesCrazy FrogGood video gamesGyuitar Hero/RockbandCasette tapes8 TracksShort wave RadioAGP portsCordless PhonesRotary Dial PhonesElectromechanical telephone exchangesRaves wih acual MDNAMath coprocessorsTelephone answering machines35mm SLR camerasSony mini disksFloppy DisksMP/MNazisMarxist terroristsBlack and White CRTsClockwork ToysLead figurines and toy soldiersCF2 3 inch disksROM CartridgesJoysicksArcade machinesMechanical fruit machinesRomanceYoung people having lots of friendsTrackballsLIghtguns (real ones that acually wored like with CRTs)MIDI portsAWE 32/64 sound fonts
>>108811373It was a midi port
>>108811777>AGP portsWe got plenty of autogynaephilic ports bro
>>108811777>Romance>Young people having lots of friendsHAHAHAHASUFFER AS I SUFFERED
>>108811248Formally IEEE1394. Sony called it iLink. Apple called it Firewire (they did develop it though.)It's able to provide sustained high speed throughput since devices are able to negotiate with each other directly. Whereas USB is directed by the CPU. Apple originally planned it for high speed uses like HDs, and USB for stuff like keyboards and printers. (this was in the 1.0 era) But USB2 came out and its speed was "good enough" for most people. Technically it does out-spec Firewire400 in speed, but only in a lab setting.Firewire's saving grace was it could maintain high throughput, which was necessary for digital video. Capturing DV tape was opening a firehose of data. It wasn't random access, so the receiving device couldn't ask for blocks to be resent.Thing I never got was that people would argue Apple's licensing fees is one thing that killed it for PCs. Yet every Windows laptop I owned from that era had a Firewire port. And I was buying the cheap weekly special machines, not business or performance laptops.
>>108811213networking? oh that's easy, just insert the puhtsuhmuhtsiyah
>>108811777Fax machines
>>108810841
>>108813683Bait, but it's interesting how XFree86, the first widely used open-source X implementation on x86, collapsed overnight with everyone who was making actual code contribution moving en masse to X.Org.
>>108810841looks like it would easily breakgood thing it died
>>108811201Really? Where can I book a flight that uses an airliner that goes at 1,341 mph?
>>108812411one cool feature of firewire was that it bypassed the cpu for transfers, meaning that every firewire device had a full controller that ensured sustained speed. It's essentially hardware accelerated, that however made every device considerably more expensive than USB because USB device are dumb, the CPU takes care of everything
IEEE 802.3
>>108810841remind me why we never got a mini ethernet connector?
>>108814055That design also made it a security nightmare as a malicious FireWire device could potentially DMA the entire host memory. I remember hearing that DoD would physically desolder FireWire ports on Macs they bought because they needed Altivec.
>>108814113Normies wanted thinner laptops and stopped caring about ethernet when wifi became "good enough".
>>108814113USB 3 to ethernet is good enough
>>108814126that's interesting
>>108814177it really is and that sucks
>>108810841DIN
>>108813971You couldn't book a supersonic flight if they still had them because the dogshit fuel economy is passed onto the passenger and you're POOR AS FUCK.
>>108814224>DINDINhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGxacYY2q3E
>>108814293>DINDIN
>>108814262concord tickets were always a premium you fucking jabroninyc-paris was $12000 in 1997 dollars which is 20 grand in 2026 moneyfaggotyou fucking faggot
I don't get why Light Pens didn't take off, normies would've adopted computers way earlier if they did and we would benefit from more and cheaper tech
>>108814328>Light Pensit wasn't accurate and it was laggy... at the time we have tablets today which are superior.
Never forget what it could have been for mobile technology
>>108814377>the /g/ pc was realbros...
>>108814126Funnily enough at least older versions of the F-35 had firewire to communicate with some part of the actuators
>>108814380https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gIMZ0WyY88
>>108814126>DoD would physically desolder FireWire ports on MacsI can't imagine them not being able to order a batch with no ports or even with no firewire controller.Also these days I think the DMA thing is solved with IOMMU, we still have TB ports.
>>108811213ExpressCards were such a cool concept, imagine all that could be achieved with a hot-swappable high-bandwidth PCI connection with modern hardware... instead we got what thunderbolt, eh.>>108813683Works on all my modern machines.>>108814377I'm still mad that PDAs went nowhere and it's been 20 years.
>>108811243I missed that so much when Vista removed support for it, for about a few months because the x360 pad just came out (and would last me nearly 10 years, while my 15-pin gamepads broke the plastic in a year).
>>108814055USB is such a hilariously bad standard and it keeps getting worse, you have shit like USB-C 3.2 gen 2 2x2 20gbps with optional Power Delivery or Displayport or PCIE passthrough. Power Delivery requires a chip inside the plug to negotiate the proper voltage/amps.And despite that clusterfuck it still does not have physical hardware interrupt pins which is like 99% of the reason all USB gamepads add lag.
>>108816423Insane nostalgia delusionTB has 4x the lanes and none of the power or space restrictions, because it's external.
>>108816473hilariously ignorant post lmao
>>108810984Sonic booms limit where those could be used.To fly from Europe to Asia you'd have to go over the north pole.With I think might work for Korea and Japan, but not for south east Asia, and for Scandinavia but not southern Europe.
>>108816474Being external makes it less powerful not more powerful, I was talking about what the concept of expresscards could have been if they kept developing on it, could have made laptops more "modular" in general, instead what did we get? Thin laptops with more and more ports removed, multiple dongles to do anything useful, everything shoehorned into USB, meh.
>>108814262>bro like concorde flights were cheap broHoly fucking shit we need to gas zoomers.
>>108810841MoGo mouse is the pinnacle of PCMCIA technology. Came when most PC slot products were being built onboard, made use of an empty slot and made sure you always had a charged mouse on hand without carrying anything extra.
>>108810936It impresses me they thought they could sell it. It looks like it would last one or maybe two days.
>>108817321You can tell they reinforced the plastic but a swing of the arm would easily snap it clean.Should've used a mechanism like fujitsu did.
>>108816484You go in a store and try finding a USB-C cable that supports 20gbps. In fucking possible because everyone only carries ones either wired for USB2, or worse, charger only cables which aren't wired for ANYTHING but power. It's a glorified phone charger cable from 2001.Fucking Linus had to make his own branded cables that actually have everything wired because it's so bad. Intel markets Thunderbolt 4 with "just werks" because USB-C is such a retarded clusterfuck.
>>108811077it looked retarded even then but it worked>>108811881I had one and it suckedimagine the mushiest controller imaginable in terms of when buttons count as pressedthen imagine it being 100 times worse
>>108810841PCMCIA is K I N O and I hate that we lost it.
>>108810984Last time Europe made anything meaningful
>>108811705kek'd way to hard at that observationreminds me of toslink
>>108810841whoever came up with this is a genius.but practically speaking its retarded
>>108814224those are mini din. still see obscure varients of them on weird power connectors sometimes.
>>108817697>multitasking on a feature phone>themable flash UI>even had XMBSE was quite ahead of their time
>>108810936Ok, Brad Pitt.>>108817321It'd be fine until you slammed something on it or dropped it wrong. Same with those weird "snake jaw" hinges for an Ethernet port.
>>108817710istg if that thing had WhatsApp I'd still use the w995 I have lying around these are supreme devicesbut sms is unfortunately dead in europe
>>108817491>>108810984>Challenger Disasters you in your pathNothing personal, NASA/Aeroengineers but you should account for space (terrestrial) junk on takeoffs.
ugh I could keep posting for hours I really hate modern technology it feels all so dead and monolithic and soulless
>>108816496easy fix : just carpet bomb some lines/corridors on the globe and the concorde is allowed to fly over them. It's like huge virtual roads but for planes. The benefit of carpet bombing is that instead of asking citizens to move you just have to kill them
>>108817790U should go into politics anon!
>>108814377>wangblows 8ewwwwwww
>>108810841LE CRT LMAO XD ITS ILLEGAL AND ZOOMERS CANT HANDLE LE CONDORDE EITHER!!!!!
>>108817704weird how it could only record video and not take photos
>>108817711PSP made me green with envy when I was a kidit sucks that the PS6 portable is probably going to be enormous like steam deck
>>108811777I also respond to anonymous questions with AI generated responses because I'm retarded.
>>108811243I just bought a sound card for my 2005 PC build because I needed a game port to get a Panther XL working on it. XP, so I needed beta drivers and antimicro.I completely forgot about game port until the joystick came in the mail tho.
>>108810841Anon that’s getting internet all over the coffee table
>>108817688>>108817735These still exist just less popular>>108817697>>108817704These still exist just shittier>>108817711This one is just gone though
I still have sound cards on all my desktops pc tho
>>108818586What's the advantage really?
>>108818672>built in amplifier>sounds considerably better than onboard>better I/O>native EAX on retro pc
>>108818672>>108818691forgot to add: because nobody really wants them they're sold extremely cheap (at least here on my shit world country) compared to USB DACs
>>108814318So you worship a novelty luxury meme technology? Let me guess, you're phoneposting on iOS
>>108810841My laptop from 2025 has a RJ45 port, thoughbeightest.
>>108811705Think distance, not bandwidth.
>>108818691>>native EAX on retro pcIDK if it's just me but I feel like Microshit making it so EAX didn't work at all anymore in Windows set spatial audio in games back an entire decade.
>>108819603>set spatial audio in games back an entire decade.it really did, I've never heard environmental audio as immersive as EAX, not even on modern gamesI do understand the reasons however, cheap audio codec manufacturers abused EAX 2.0 with half baked drivers I actually blame lazy devs because OpenAL is a proper replacement, however devs opted for develop against XAudio instead of OpenAL because it's easier
>>108811777>>108813667Telexhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telex
>>108819618Glad to know it wasn't just me. Battlefield 2 on shitty 5.1 computer speakers sounded (and still sounds, I checked) more immersive than AAA-slop. I hate it. Take me back.>bro how the fuck did you know we were behind youI HEARD YOU. YOU'RE IN A TANK.
https://stolenhistory.net/threads/the-lost-key-part-1.4102/
>>108817790That's ridiculous and inefficient. Just make it go faster so the sonic boom kills anything on ground level
>>108817688Newer models changed from CCD to CMOS.
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>>108820855There's plenty of videos of people making those on youtube.
>>108821348is there even any advantage left on ccds?its been some years, and i dont remember the details but when i did some course on scientific and space sensors, cmos were catching in their downsides
