tell me how retarded I am for wanting one of these android epaper tablet thingies
*holds up index finger and thumb in a pincer like gesture*you are thiiiiiis retarded
>>108815503soo u think there's a justified use case™?
>>108815492how expensive?
>>108817137I think the 10.3" color one used is like 500 bucks and the b&w one from 250ish
They're neat. If you enjoy something neat and it's worth 500 bucks for you then go for it I guess. There are far more retarded ways to blow that money.
>>108815492well show a sample of your handwriting and lets see if it's worth it
>>108815492How’s the refresh rate? I like kindles but I don’t think I could use them for actual interactive content
>>108815492what is the usecase for writing gay love letters on epaper android devices?just have the AI generate it for you
>>108815492Just use paper, anon.You know how much paper I have? A LOT.You know how many times I had to charge my paper or couldn't write because I had lost my special pen? ZERO. Never, because paper does everything better than your inferior device made to try to replicate that what is already perfect.
>>108817196My friend has one and I tried it for a while. For handwriting it's surprisingly nice, but uhm I wouldn't watch YouTube on it...>>108817194see pic rel>>108817210I do maths and have a lot of to do lists cause I never remember stuff when I put it into my phone cause I just click away all notifications ToTAlso like reading academic papers and that kinda thing.Also the notes sync as vectorized pdfs to Ur pc so my friend uses it for making anki flashcards or handing in homework. Also just neater notes and organising into different notebooks n hyperlinks n notebooks tied to pdf documents or so.>>108817190yeeah I think I'm gonna get it now that I've written all that down
>>108817257>that handwriting stylewtf there are actually grils on /g/
>>108817269I'm a tranny ._.
>>108817275F
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>>108817693sorry I got no loicense I'm from the mainland and I have a bf
>>108817763Congrats on the gay relationship.
>>108817801Thank uuu!!
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>>108817275at least your handwriting passes lol
>>108815492do those support obsidian?
>>108815492pretty retarded luxury item that not really needed but you want it anywayain't nobody going to convince you otherwise, whats the point of this thread?
>>108817180The Note Air 5C should be around $500 in new.If you want to read content beyond reflowable books and have interest in note taking, getting one is a nobrainer.
>>108818940They run Android so you can install whatever you want.The main issue you'll run into is that third party applications don't work that well with the stylus writing since they aren't designed around the way e-ink refreshes and therefore get a lot more latency than the sub 20ms of the first party ones.
>>108815492They're nice. Have a look at what the decent ones cost. That'll fix your desire real fast.I'm waiting until they mature a bit and hopefully come down in price.
>>108820937>I'm waiting until they mature a bit and hopefully come down in price.They have. 13" readers are now available for just $600 when they used to be $950. It's a pretty deep drop considering how expensive everything else has gotten in the meantime.
>>108821226I mean the tech isn't nearly complex enough to warrant the price, so that's to be expected. There's also competition now, at least to some extent.That being said, it's e-ink, so they'll likely never get cheap. At like 300$ for a decent one I'd be tempted. As-is I don't see the value proposition. I know a few people who have them and they seem to use them for a month or so religiously, then it gets less and less common. I'm not paying 600$ for something that I don't know how much I'll use.
>>108821245>I mean the tech isn't nearly complex enough to warrant the priceExplain your reasoning.
>>108821613It's a e-ink screen, small battery and mediocre lower middle market chipset running generic android. Basically all the cost comes from two things: - the e-ink screen (Which to be fair is expensive and harder to make, but not this much harder to make)- A retarded desire to make it mega thin to the point where you need advanced material science so it doesn't snap or break from normal use. A feature I barely give a shit about, hence I don't want to pay for it.Other than the e-ink screen it's just a thin tablet with mediocre specs. That's why I said it doesn't warrant the price.
>>108815492They had your messages and now they'll have your handwriting too.Total Goylem Death
>>108815492Use case for buying this over pens and notebooks?
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super retarded becauseyou can do the same on paper+pen total cost if you write like 500 pages (you won't) = 20 dollarsthen you take a screenshot ad use a free software for analysing words on image and you good.the extra process of taking the screenshot and using the software could be easily automated.idkalso your backup is pretty much free of any problems related to third-party/power's shortage.
>>108821947>small batteryWhy would it need a bigger battery?People buy shit like the iPad Pro that costs more despite not even having an e-ink display.
>>108822162It doesn't. The reason I am bringing up the small battery is because battery is usually a substantial part of any electronics device in terms of volume (physical space in the case it takes up) and cost.Since we were discussing cost (if it's a reasonable price), I wanted to bring up that that entire cost factor is basically cut into a fraction, because e-ink needs so much less energy.A small battery is the right engineering decision for this device, but it should result in it being cheaper to make, thus making any larger price more unreasonable.
>>108817275S to spit on your girly penis
>>108822104Hell, if "she" wants to digitize written notes: A Rocketbook will do nearly the same thing, without Android. It's just a physical book that you wipe with water when you're doing doing notes and taking photos to digitize in their app (or a fork/community made one) and then put those notes in OneDrive/Gdrive, et. al. services you use.
>>108822206But you admit yourself that the display is the expensive part. You need to consider that while prices went down, the specifications of the display improved from 2200x1650 to 3200x2400. $600 is a reasonable price to pay.
>>108822442>>108822104Have you never taken digital notes in your life? Taking photos is no replacement at all. You don't get anywhere close to the editing options. Even simple erasing is already several times the effort.People write well beyond 500 pages and also take notes on existing documents.
>>108822456Anon are you working for remarkable or why are you trying to argue this so much? kek.If you think that's a fair price, go ahead, buy it. While everyone I know who got it used it for a month only for them to use it less and less with time, that doesn't mean it can't be right for (you). I'm just saying that I find 600$ for what I'd essentially use to replace a piece of paper, especially given the fact that it's little more than a very thin mid spec tablet with an e-ink screen, to be unreasonable. At 400$ I'd consider it. At 300$ I'd probably buy it. At 200$ I'd buy it right now. >the specifications of the display improved from 2200x1650 to 3200x2400While that is cool, personally I'd rather have a cheaper model at the older resolution than this upgrade to maintain the (imo still pretty high) price. But that's a preference thing, it's a bit like the Xteink upgrading from the 4 to the 3 (yes they count down for some reason) to justify a higher price, while I think the 4 is the better deal (even if they would cost the same)
>>108822483>Even simple erasing is already several times the effortI'm not the anon you wrote to, so sorry if this comes off as needlessly offensive/rude, but erasing? Are you an elementary schooler? You stop erasing halfway through highschool at the latest. With paper you just cross shit out and keep going. Obviously not as good as deleting shit on a digital display, but I haven't seen someone erase something in years unless they were kids in school. I tried the remarkable and it was nice, though I still prefer paper personally. But I get the appeal absolutely, it's a good device for what it seeks out to do.Out of curiosity - do you actually ever reference your notes again when you say something like writing 500 pages of documents?When I take notes on paper, they have a limited lifetime. Within a week they'll either be remade into references (which I do in obsidian, which is easier to search, reference later and read anyways) or thrown away. The idea of having some giga document on a digital device with all my notes feels like it'd just become a digital graveyard eventually, offering little in terms of value to me.
>>108822520Who said anything about having a single large document? Use folders and other organizing tools like links.Just because you don't need to keep them doesn't mean you don't have to write them in the first place either.Why wouldn't you erase on a digital device? There's no need to clutter everything with crossed out text just because that's what you got used to. They even let you erase by crossing out.
>>108822630>Why wouldn't you erase on a digital device?Sorry, I don't think I made myself clear. Of course you'd erase on a digital device. My point was just that you wouldn't do so on paper. It's not worth the effort.>Use folders and other organizing tools like links.Are the notes saved as cleartext via OCR? Then I can see the value in that. If not, I feel like the entire "you can recall whatever you wrote in the last years" feature to be something that sounds great, but I'd personally not gain much value from.
>>108822643The notes themselves are usually stored in a vector format and you can perform OCR on that, which will require an online connection or not depending on the brand. Automatically performing OCR can be optional.
>>108822708That seems more reasonable then. I've yet to see OCR that is perfect, but it's gotten pretty good over the years. Thanks for answering all these questions anon.
>>108817275Damn, maybe dudes can have girl brains
Nah they are kinda cool I looked into messing around with the screen with a raspberry pi and the screens themselves aren't too expensive so a diy version would be kinda cool
>>108823090posted like a tiktok comment
>>108815503>He's so retarded that it stretches from A-Z on the keyboard!
I'm sure they're a pretty cool tech to have, but why would anyone actually choose it over pen and paper? The only use case I can think of is if you're working in a reduced gravity setting where pens and pencils might somehow become an issue. I simply see no upside to it:>Likely proprietary tech>Costs significantly more than paper>Have to juggle battery life>If something breaks it can create significant downtime in ability to use it
Sony Digital Paper, accept no substitute.
>>108815492Why is he using his wrong hand to write?
>>108824132Do you consider the Fujitsu Quaderno a substitute?
>>108824159because you're retarded and it's weird to care.
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>>108815492i literally just ordered one a few hours ago with a kaleido 3 as an upgrade from my clara hd, i wanted a slightly bigger screen for manga
>>108815492Matt screen protector has the exact same effect on any screen, from diffused light reflection to even the sound you fingers make when dragging across the screen.t. using one rn
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you can spend your money on gadgets and trinkets if you want too. im going to buy stock in war, food, and energy companies. thays how my dad got so fucking rich after 9/11
>>108824118I used one in college.Before this I had to carry a backpack with a bunch of pens in it and kilos of paper and books.After this I just carried the tablet, which weighed almost nothing.It's also easier to correct mistakes. You can move text and drawings around on the page.If you wanted to send your notes to your college friends, just enter their email and it's done, automatic 50 page PDF.You can read course books on it and even write inside of the books without repercussions (if you do it in a real book then you will never get it off again)
why not just get a drawing tablet
>>108824301Drawing tablets have a smooth glass display with zero resistance. Good for smooth strokes, but a pain in the wrist for writing pages upon pages of words.e-ink also looks better (because it looks like paper), is easier on the eyes, and has like 2 weeks battery life on a single charge
>>108824259Anything under 10" is useless for manga and since 10" Kaleido 3 only costs $500 there's really no excuse to get such a tiny reader.
>>108824352well i really like my clara hd and have used that for manga for years its nice and thats 6.5 inch i think 10 would be too big and i also dont want to pay out for a 10 inch until coloured eink is better. its annoying the pocketbook inkpad 3 has no microsd slot its 7.8 inches i think that would be the perfect size for me
>>108815492But why not just use actual paper?
>>108824397Have you been reading single-paged? Manga needs to be read with two pages at a time.
>>108824465single page is fine
I use a air 3c and its pretty nice. Replaces my writing notebook while doubling as an ebook/manga reader and a general use android tablet>but pen and paper!My digital norebooks automatically backup to my nas through syncthing and are easily viewable on all my devices. Better and more convenient
