>you could always get a job at Amaz-ACKhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luU57hMhkakhumanbros, how can we compete...?
I would feel better about ordering from Amazon if it meant there were no hominid wagies in the chain.
>>108815520>competeAny retard can outcompete this memetech. It's just that they hate you so much they're willing to sacrifice efficiency and economic profit just to cull the useless eaters.
>>108815520How retarded one must be to develop a robot without self lubricating vagina.What the flying fuck is wrong with Boston Dynamics ?!
>>108815520If only Americans had this level of work ethic. Unfortunately the only real options for serious workers today are robots and Indians.
If all jobs were replaced by robots that'd be better than 40% of the work force going into these types of jobs and the already shit wages collapsing even further
>>108815520Is it checking the packages for something? Why can't they go directly on the conveyor?
>>108816204https://x.com/adcock_brett/status/2054615837903048807> We previously showed this task running for 1 hour. Today we're pushing for 8 hours straight. High odds something breaks> The use case is small package sorting. F.03 must detect the barcode, pick up the package, and reorient it barcode face-down onto the conveyor. The robots have to reason purely from camera pixels> Humans average ~3 seconds per package. F.03 is now around human parity> The robots are fully autonomous running Helix-02, our in-house neural network running entirely onboard F.03 (e.g. AI inference is done on device)> Multiple humanoids are networked together and communicating with each other to maximize conveyor uptime. The system is designed to run 24/7> A robot will work until battery is low (~3-4 hours), then autonomously request another robot to swap in to minimize conveyor downtime> It's a multi-robot coordination with autonomous failover strategy. If a robot detects an issue - it will self diagnose itself and if there's an issue it autonomously walks to maintenance and requests a replacement from the fleet - no humans in the loop
This is the why US needs more H1-B visas for chad Indians. AI will make many jobs that must be filled by talented young talent!
>>108816204They're flipping them so the barcode is face down consistently
>>108816262>robot will work until battery is lowwhy would it run on battery if it's stationary? this nigga could run for several months nonstop
yeah great, watched for 2 minutes and it made 3 mistakes
>>108815550>Any retard can outcompete this memetech.For the same wage ($0)?
It's mesmerising
>>108815550Average human speed is about 1.2K packages sorted per hour and Figure 03 is doing about 1.3K.
You're going to be able to rent these for about $1 per hour from Figure. It's over for meatoids.
>>108816262wouldnt it be easier to just use 4 scanners
>>108816058The robot is being piloted by an Indian in Hyderabad at the local Amazon corporate office for $3.50 an hour.
>>108816653So already performing at the same level as a nigger that does the bare minimum? Cool.
this is going to be highly revolutionizing for the putting packages upside down on a conveyor belt industry
>>108817309Your post reeks of antisemitism
>>108815550See :>>108816739>>108817039Adding to that, the robot can work infinite shifts they usually have two batteries and can swap them out themselves without shutting down
>>108815520Another aiGOD w
>>108815520>>108816262>> We previously showed this task running for 1 hour. Today we're pushing for 8 hours straight. High odds something breaksI feel like I'm going insane. Robots in factories have been around for half a century. All of this could be achieved by an established stationary robot with rudimentary OCR for 5% the price to run around the clock. I can understand investors falling for the scam that humanoid robots are, but I'd expect /g/ to be sane enough to understand this. Yet nobody here clowns on this bullshit for the absolute meme it is.
>>108817948Why does it need a battery if it's stationary the entire time, couldn't it just be plugged in? Hell, if it's not moving there's no reason for it to have legs either, you could get more consistent control if it was attached to ground. You could probably also simplify the arms and hands since only basic grab/lift/pinch actions are performed.
>>108815520Why the fuck does thing need hands (instead of a claw or some other, simpler manipulator)? Why does it need legs, for that matter? Wouldn't a pair of robotic factory arms do the same things, but 10x faster and for the fraction of the price?
>>108815520Humans are obsolete. If you aren't already worth >$100M then kill yourself.
>>108818003who sells a robot arm that can sort packages for $1,000?
>>108818003theres probably only one reason whatever factory job isn't already a robot and its because the company doesn't want to spend the initial investment to design and make the robot even if its orders of magnitudes more efficient. if there's a generic factory bot who can be programmed in a day to do whatever shit semi-specific thing even fractions less than a wagie its a big dealalso i think the the big picture for these robots will be stacking shelves, flipping burgers, processing meat, etc etc. service economy stuff that still cant quite be done with robot arms or whatever. i pray for this to happen because everybody will be force to neetmax and the economy will collapse as there wont be enough unskilled labor for the heaving masses just layed off from their white collar job
>>108818003A robot performing general tasks in a chaotic environment is a much different beast to specialized machines performing specific tasks in highly controlled environments.
>>108818186Random chink toy companies, and that toy will still be more solid than this already subsidized crap.>>108818187>>108818239None of that requires humanoid form. If you can make an AI that performs like that (you can't yet and there's no obvious path forward), you might just as well load it onto a regular robot arm.
>>108818187that just leads to more crime
>>108815520what jobs will be left if robots and AI can automate everything?
>>108815520Seems more expensive than a human. I get hating gross 80IQ groids but the dollar wins in the end. Same reason the Amazon drone delivery fails. Waste of time to have one drone fly back and forth three times to my house to deliver a single order a guy in a van could have delivered.
>>108818003Its called general case dude, come on....
>>108818187>everybody will be force to neetmax and the economy will collapsebuy guns
>>108818613None. If you don't own your own house then you'll be culled in the ai revolution. Good luck.
>>108815520Wait for the brain implants, you'll need to be 'chipped to compete in the future.
>>108818464Obviously something actually deployed will likely be fixed into place and just use the torso/arms part.The humanoid form factor is great because:a. its easy to get training data from humansb. 2 arms and 2 legs are a very general form factor that is mobile and dexterous. if you dont need that, then you dont need humanoids, but obviously many jobs require both of those things since we employ billions of humanoid-shaped workers already.
>>108817039Adding the obvious to this. Humans eventually slow down and become more accurate before eventually needing to sleep for several hours and commute back to work. 03 just lives there 24/7
>>108815520https://x.com/Figure_robot/status/205460384539387545214,000 packages sorted in a day by 1 humanoid robot. UPS has 20,000 people working at 1 facility in Kentucky that sorts packages exactly like this. For the record, a normal days at sorting package will have 1 human sorting ~1000 packages per 8hr day.
>>108818931>Humans eventually slow down and become more accurate before eventually needing to sleep>more accurate>1AMPoetic.
>>108815520It won't happen for a while but at some point the job market will only be slave labor that the LLMs or physical robots can't replicate yet. What jobs are those even? Does it even matter if no one will have money? I feel like electricians/plumbers aren't even that prepared in such a scenario. You have to go more primal. Farmers, law enforcement, nurses and elderly care.
Can I just say that it's really funny how humans complained about working for Amazon and compared it to slavery but are now upset that the human slaves are being replaced by a machine that can't suffer or be exploited.
>>108819020>farmers, law enforcement, nurses and elderly careno one tell him
>>108819020>>108819033PUT IT DOWN
>>108818464The selling point is that it's a humanoid. It's meant to replace a human being without any retooling or adjusting of the environment.
>>108819020Robots that can fully replace blue collar works are still extremely shitty. We're still decades off from having market-ready wagiebots, and even then they will be obscenely expensive initially.Email-job people are supremely fucked though.
>>108819020self-lubricating vaginablood/plasma/sperm donoranything that requires taste or smell testing
>>108819054>in the future everyone has to resort to being a vagina taste donor for moneygrim
>>108819020For girls: ivf baby factory for AI trillionariesFor boys: drone fodder in war amongst AI trillionaires
GARY YOU DROPPED A BOX YOU STUPID FUCK
>>108815520>2000% faster and cheaper to just put barcodes on both sides
>>108819028Yeah it's hilarious how all opportunities for natural life are held hostage at gunpoint (police, feds) unless you do humiliating work for a billionaire. Very funny haha!Haha look at the idiot trying to live in nature, growing a garden and building their own home. So funny when the police come by to evict them and bring a bulldozer to tear up their garden and knock down their home! Haha!
>>108819080> I have of late, (but wherefore I know not) lost all my mirth, forgone all custom of exercises; and indeed, it goes so heavily with my disposition; that this goodly frame the earth, seems to me a sterile promontory; this most excellent canopy the air, look you, this brave o'er hanging firmament, this majestical roof, fretted with golden fire: why, it appeareth no other thing to me, than a foul and pestilent congregation of vapours. What a piece of work is a man, How noble in reason, how infinite in faculty, In form and moving how express and admirable, In action how like an Angel, In apprehension how like a god, The beauty of the world, The paragon of animals. And yet to me, what is this quintessence of dust? Man delights not me; no, nor Woman neither; though by your smiling you seem to say so.
>>108819150You write "ha ha" but I don't think you're laughing.
>>108817309>wouldnt it be easier to just use 4 scannersYes. I can design a system right now that eliminates the need for any of this shit. Just a tunnel with scanners on the top, bottom, and both sides, they are the same as the super market ones, the spinning mirror makes the lasers go every fucking where, then in part of the tunnel the conveyer is made out of those spinning disks that are biased forward still so packages make a full 360 revolution on their way through. No surface will be missed, and using existing decades old computer vision can direct packages down whatever shoot.People forcing shit the hard way since they had Mexicans doing this, and now are ruining the world to make robo-mexicans to spin packages around. It's retarded.
>>108817309even easier to just use rfid instead of printed barcodes.
>>108818008>why do they need legs and batteriesThey will use the robots to chase down and murder the unemployed wagies in the streets eventually.
>>108815520Why did they shape it like a person? A couple of arms would be far more capable. Hell a camera system and flipper plates would be enough. How it's made showed how they do that again and again. This design keeps struggling and dropping things. We have no reason to have huminoid shaped robots other than sex bots.On the hand, it's about as gentle on packages as the humans are.
I also notice that most of these packages are all about the same size. Can't imagine it's that standard at UPS. Amazon maybe since they try to have a few standard box sizes.
>>108818003Problem with stationary robots is that you can’t use data from jeets with VR and you can’t mass produce them. Humanoid robots could eventually be used to do literally anything human can while robot arm attached to a floor can’t be resold and has limited usage which prevented mass production. Look me up robot claw that you can buy for 3 000 dollars that can do the same thing that one of these chinkbots can do. It’s like how we use LLMs for almost everything AI these days instead of making some specialised excel formatter that has no common sense.
>>108818953Its not doing anything, just moving bags and boxes from 1 pile onto a belt, rather slowly I would add.
>>108819402You have to do that for entire 8 hour shift and packages of all sizes and the labels needs to be facing the correct positions. Humans gets tired, slow down responses, effective accuracy, etc standign on line 8 hours a day. Its a mind killer. A dead slog. Humanoid hobots can continuously do it accurately for 24h/day. >Its not doing anythingIts not that easy for robots to scale in dynamic situations and cost. Also, now imagine doing that for meat packing/sorters. Its a killer slog for those working there.
>>108815520Lol that bot that walked past
>>108819305There are also pre-sorting that sorts by size and weight. So they are sorted by sizes as well before this.
>>108819431Yea im not sure i believe a human would slow down to that pace unless the pay was really shit.>>108819433Why did my video come out so small? I recorded full screen
>>108815520Surprisingly nice as background noise.
This is not 'sorting'. It is just moving parcels from a box to a convery belt, labels down btw, at doing it at a much slower rate than a wagies does it. The fact Amazon will spend likely 60000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 USD on this only to bring back normal human wagies in a year will be the funniest shit.
>>108819431Also, I used to work at tuffnells warehouse where we would unload lorries full of parcels, pile them into their respective piles and then load them onto outgoing lorries all before shofy end. Its a graft but not a killer slog. It helped me develop a core and most days we would all be inside a trailer smoking and having a laugh till a lorry came in.
>>108819448Amazon already has a million robots in their factories and has been for years
>>108819485Not in fulfillment centers. The last mile station that gets things to your DSP boys in blue who get things to you.
>>108819487They are investors in Figure robot, hundreds of millions have been poured in. The company is worth couple billions now. Amazon is also invested into robot delivery drones and self driving technology. The entire logistics stack is about to become automated. Last mile stations included.
>>108817309Can't you poltards write ten words without attacking is-real?
>>108818187>the economy will collapse as there wont be enough unskilled labor for the heaving masses just layed off from their white collar jobwhy would automation of unskilled labour lead to people getting laid off from white collar jobs? that makes no sense.
>>108815520Chances that it's actually controlled by an indian remotely?
>>108819584100%
>>108818003I work in a distribution warehouse and I see similar kind of shit. A lot of engineering and tech budget goes into drop-in human replacement machines that look cool for PR reasons, but are ultimately next to useless because they are constrained by being retrofitted into an existing human-centered workflow (and are most likely remotely operated by some jeet anyway).Redesign the entire workflow to facilitate maximum automation and you'll be able to cut many of the processes out entirely. All this retrofit bullshit is pure PR wankery and a waste of time, imo.
>>108819641Why does this post include his original thought that appears in the post above>probably remote controlled hy injection anywayIs this how ai chatbots think they get engagement? They've seen tards on YouTube copy each other's comments that get lots of likes and imitate that? Everything is so fucked up that im seeing patterns in everything and its driving me insane
>>108819641>>108819736It also repeated this comment>>108818187Acting like ut came up with that thought. Its so strange to me
>>108819736>remote controlled by a jeet*
>>108815520in the future people will think it's wild that people used to fight for their ability to have a warehouse job at amazack
>>108819641Isn’t it cheaper and quicker to just plop in humanoid clanker for 10k in place of human instead of redesigning the whole thing? That’s the main reason why humanoid robots even make sense, because they are universal drop in for a human that can be mass produced and does not require team of engineers to automate.
mass robotics causing downward price tension is the last hope to breaking inflationary fiat monetary systems. a free market without centralized currency or exponentially upwards debt-spending will be able to provide a decent standard of living even for low end jobs in a constant state of flux
>>108819778Same bot with the same talking points again that's been said loads all through. Fucking doing my tita in now, everything g is fake
>>108819439>Why did my video come out so small? I recorded full screeniToddlers BTFO
>>108819782Nigger I am a human who only posted that one reply, I just have IQ above 80 so I have concept of mind and when I see someone say something dumb that was true year or two ago I like to inform them about updated information, because I assume they just did not hear about it.
>>108819789What? I use a Samsung s23
>>108819794This thread was made one day ago, you're repeating the same thing many others have said.
>>108819807Sorry, I looked at replies to posts and found smartass who had no reply
>>108819809OK bot
>>108819028shut the fuck up bitch
>>108819504at least in my cunt the economy has slowed down to the point where it cant support the current number of white collar jobs so nobody is hiring and some are downsizingits kind of the other way around, people get layed off from their white collar job because the economy is shit and then they go work at McDonalds or the supermarket or something off the record.if theres none of these jobs there will be no other choice but to go hungry or go leech of welfare, however the welfare system will probably collapse as the government runs out of money from them not working or collecting tax if good tens of percents of the population are now on full welfareeither the government will have to think of some bullshit like UBI or etc to keep people fed or have massive food riots even tiktok and instagram cant quell. personally i think they'll choose the latter
>>108819402>rather slowly I would add.It's actually beating the human average.
>>108819778Cheaper in the short term, sure. I'm just more interested in solving the problem at its core by getting the design right instead of patching it up with half-ass solutions.>>108819736>>108819744>>108819782Meds, now, holy fucking shit.
>>108819862>at least in my cunt the economy has slowed down to the point where it cant support the current number of white collar jobs so nobody is hiring and some are downsizinga lot of while collar jobs can't really support themselves, is the problem. it's just the current, trendy way of spreading wealth around to individuals who "fit your corporate culture". all it takes is for an executive to realise that his average employee works maybe 25% of the time and the sociopaths will proceed to slash jobs, they don't care you have an expensive lifestyle and a fuckload of loans to maintain. but you're right, this generally doesn't fall on the agenda while the getting is good and everyone is busy getting shit rich.>the government runs out of moneydoesn't work like that.>the welfare system will probably collapse [...] if good tens of percents of the population are now on full welfare>either the government will have to think of some bullshit like UBIright, so traditional welfare will collapse from having too many people relying on it and will be replaced by... this completely different system that isn't welfare at all, which *everyone* will be included in, but which will somehow be immune to collapsing? use your head, please. besides, all a UBI would lead to on its own, is more free money for the landlords, so there's a whole range of problems to solve before we can even begin to think about implementing something like that.but yes, the role and meaning of "employment" in this new age of automation and prosperity will have to be reworked and figured out fairly soon, because otherwise there's high potential for things to get real ugly.
china already did this shit a decade ago, yall don't know about their dark factories and warehouses that are literally humanless? entirely robot run? america mogged again.
>>108819952>this completely different system that isn't welfare at all, which *everyone* will be included ini mean direct handouts, food stamps, state housing, etc etc... UBI becomes a direct handout if you fix the price of staples, housing and utilities. If you say now our gubberment bread, rice, potatoes, etc is now X price, the rent for your area is Y landlords be damned and your utilities are Z and the money we'll give you is just enough to cover X+Y+Z then its bascially neetbux. It just has a better vaneer than food stamps and the like because you can choose to just spend it all on booze if you want. at least thats what I imagine UBI to be, or i guess the "dystopic" view of UBI where the government alots you just enough funds to cover your existence by severely price fixing everything and If you do have a job/higher class you can afford nicer things than gubberment rice and potatoes creating a two-tier system. However its also probably the easiest way to fix such a mass unemployment crisis
reminder that post-agi economy will be deflationary
>>108820305>UBI becomes a direct handout if you fix the price of staples, housing and utilities.UBI becomes *meaningless* if you have this degree of planned economy. That's why most people don't look at UBI in the context of planned economy, but rather as a supplement in an existing capitalist market system - which, as you've pointed out, doesn't work unless the basics are state subsidised/owned/"fixed", at which point you're back to planned economy and the concept of UBI becomes meaningless, since that function is already performed by necessities being made affordable to begin with.
>>108820305if the robots mine, transport, and process their own materials and then build their own components and build their own bodies and power sources and perform maintenance on their own bodies then the robots plant food and grow food and harvest food and distribute food this is the ideal situation. the robots can build houses for free. the robots can prepare land for free. literally slaves without the moral/ethical issues only an IDIOT RETARD would be against robotics/ai.
>>108819851>I'm upsetSorry to hear that. It won't get better for you.
>>108818931>someone who has never worked with actual automation machineryConstant maintanence. It WILL start to shift and misalign and need to recalibrate a center reference point of some kind. It WILL have moving parts that physically wear likely sooner than later because a gap in runtime means lost revenue.The person hired to fix/maintain them WILL charge you a fortune and a half to do so.
>>108816739>$0Looks like you failed economics. Wanna take out a 0% loan?
>>108820580None of what you said applies in practice. You theorized a typical machine and problems with it then made up a whole industry and service contract. We're not talking about your strawman machine.
>>108819096Me no habla ingle- I mean, beep boop, senior
>>108820343In such an economy only the very basics would be planned, complex and luxery items such as vehicles, clothes, TVs, electronics, etc... hell even any food thats not just like potatoes,bread,rice and root vegetables would still be beholden market economics. Thus you need some mechanism to ensure everybody earns enough to buy those basics and still be able to interact with the market economy. UBI would just mean that anybody who does have a job their employer doesn't have pay them to survive as they're guaranteed to survive on the UBI income via the planned economyWithout the planned economy they would just lower wages and raise prices of everything to make sure you had the same purchasing power as beforeThe economy would still largely be a market economy but the "cost of living" would be controlled by the government and not factored into wagesYou could probably do the same thing with welfare and just ensure poor people get handouts to buy the affordable basics and have employers factor in the government "cost of living" into wages, but it seems easier to manage UBI than a welfare system
>>108822328>UBI would just mean that anybody who does have a job their employer doesn't have pay them to survive as they're guaranteed to survive on the UBI income via the planned economyYou're forgetting housing (rent) and utility bills. As already mentioned, the rates for those would also have to be state controlled, otherwise they'll suck away the benefit of any and all UBI.
>>108815520Actually Remote Bharatis (ARB)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W-VneUv8Gk
>>108818003I think its more about showcasing robots doing humanlike stuff, than optimize the workflow itself. At the current state, robots are only capable of doing braindead work like this one. Eventually they will showcase them doing more complex tasks in the future
>>108819241>even easier to just use rfid instead of printed barcodes.Great, now you're adding around 13 cents per package instead of 1 cent, and you need dedicated stations for scanning them instead of just writing an app that will run on any phone. If my factory couldn't make it financially viable for a fucking car window why do you think Amazon can do it for your 2 dollar chink shit?>>108819778The main draw for humanoid robots isn't that they can just replace a human without changes to the workcell, it's that a human is going to be available as a fallback if something goes wrong with it. GM tried to replace all their human workers with non-humanoid robots back in the 1980s and wasted about 50 billion dollars (not even counting the lost marketshare and effects of that), and a huge part of the cost was retrofitting workcells and then undoing that so humans could perform the job again once the robots failed.
>>108815520hepatitisjeet remote controlled scam it would require some serious gpu/TPU running inside to fully model 3d space and the required movements
>>1088180034chan is dying bro half the posters here are LLM bots or shillsAnd no all the arguments that the previous posters presented are comical at best, like cost of robotic arms or drop-in replacement for humans.the dhiarheajeet-droids are purely a PR stunt, the requirements to keep these bots are most probably higher than just using proper roboarms from Nihhon and automating your production line.
>>108818003These robots will be leased, and unlike a specialized bot, they can be leased to do anything.
>>108822997rfid stickers are 3.5 cents in consumer amounts, half that if you buy industrial quantities.
>>108818953>>108815520a simple robotic arm or even a belt with pistons underneath with 2D spacial model camera could do this job 10 times faster>2d camera cant see barcode>fire piston number 39 underneath>package flipped,barcode readable>30 packages per second minumumwant to expand just add another belt on the sideYou could even remove the image recognition model and just track differently colored shapes and check for barcode redability for each shape, a Raspbery Pi could do it
>>108822328>promotes UBI>can't spell basic english or be assed to do proper spacing between words or grammarHi ESL-anon, is India treating you well? It must suck posting off of your samsung phone!
>>108823242I use motorola you bloody fucker
>>108823130You'll get 5 cents with high volume. 3.5 cents for consumer amounts is fucking bullshit unless you're buying RFID dust and sticking it to tape manually like a fucking caveman.
>>108815520What's the advantage to a humanoid instead of having something hanging overhead that can flip boxes?>There isn't anyOkay.
>>10882469910,000 times troglodytes say this10,001 times chads tell you that it's because every factory, assembly line, restaurant, business, building, etc is built for humans and with a functional humanoid robot you do not need to retrofit or redesign existing infrastructure and can swap between humans and robots seamlessly.
>>108824728Considering Amazon already has banks and banks of overhead robots doing logistics work and has for fucking years there's zero reason to switch to humanoids now. Just in case you haven't loaded up the stream, it does in fact make errors every now and then, plus the packages clearly weigh fucking nothing so it doesn't have to worry about balance.
