heh heh heh who's gonna crack firstWORKERS WANT THE PAYSAMSUNG EXECS SAY GO FUCK YOURSELVES RAM PRICES STILL SHOOTING UP
It's not called Worst Korea for nothing
>agree to work for an amount of money>demand more money because, uhh
>>108816922>The collapse has raised the prospect of an emergency arbitration order, a legal mechanism that would immediately freeze industrial action for 30 days while the labor commission mediates. South Korean Labor Minister Kim Young-hoon stopped short of invoking it on Wednesday, saying the dispute should be resolved through dialogue. The union has warned that such an order would damage labor relations further.Holy shit they are just days away from the Government just banning the workers from being able to strike for 30 days. The Union is saying shit will get giga nuked if they push this button. SHIT IS GETTING HEATED
>>108816922Striking should be illegal. I hope the government forces those workers back to work with no pay.
explain why all workers in all countries can't simply refuse to show up their job for one dayliterally take one day off without notice, spend time with family and kidswhat mr. goldstein gona do when he walks into an empty office in the morning?
>>108816936>>108816946You will never EVER be a billionaire, realistically not even a millionaire, likely you might never even own anything of valueIf you were motivated by anything but spite you would be rooting for those guys
>>108816955That's Communism and a violation of the Free Market and Non-Aggression Principle, retard. Anyone who does that should be executed.>>108816977I own my own business and make more money than you will ever see in your life every month, retard. My workers understand that I am the boss, not them, and they do what I tell them for what I pay them. End of story. If they don't like it they can quit but under no circumstances may they ever strike.
>>108816922>noooooo please daddy gubment save us from the evil union its soo much stronger than us noooooo we might lose 0.3% of our revenue noooo how will we survivewhy can't these niggers just let the free market take its natural course
>>108816988Post business
>>108816936
>>108816922based
>>108816988striking isn't a violation of the NAP>>108816955because people would rather show up to work and get the money than strike and tighten their purse. so even if you strike individually there will be someone to replace you.ultimately if your labour is worth more than you're being paid then you would be able to find someone who would pay you more. the fact that most people can't get a better job that the one they have proves that they are being paid a fair wage.
>THATS COMMUNISM
>>108816955Too many people around desperate enough to scab
>>108816936>Company is suddenly racking in billions in B2B contracts>Company forces you to work unpaid overtime to meet sales>All for below minimum wage and in piss poor conditions without proper health safety>Somehow workers are the entitled ones for wanting to better their workplace and their wageThe average amerilard at his finest.There's thousands of workers who die every year due to the samsung factories not having proper safety standards.
>>108816946They can force them to work but they can only do it for 30 days maximumthe government has traditionally been pro union so going against them means they will all be thrown out of power at the next elections Samsung Korea has 120,000 workers and 90,000 of them are in the Union
>>108817051>There's thousands of workers who die every year due to the samsung factories not having proper safety standards.this sounds like total bullshit
>>108817065>this sounds like total bullshitEnough to deserve its own wikipedia page thougheverbeithttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_Samsung
>>108817051Samsung has factories all over the world, including South Africa so the death toll might be from there since getting a job in korea is notoriously hard and it pays way above minimum wage, people die to get in rather than die inside, it is their definition of making it in life.
>>108817081>Beginning in 2007, the families of the impacted workers, with the help of a variety of domestic and international organizations, organized and mobilized against Samsung in the form of various protests and legal challenges. This organized opposition lasted for over a decade and largely concluded upon the signing of a binding settlement agreement between Samsung and the relevant opposition leader. Additionally, Samsung issued a public apology[1] and acceptance responsibility for causing an increased risk of serious illness in its semiconductor factories. so your statement was total bullshitinteresting
>>108816988Please elaborate. Which Libertarian/AnCap book did you read that says going on strike is a violation of the NAP.
>>108816922oh boythese koreans would never make it in America
>>108816936>>demand more money because the company is making record profitsCommon sense.
>>108816922It’s blackmail. And that’s illegal.They already knew and agreed to whatever salary they were getting when they started there unless they had some kind of un-capped profit sharing arrangement (which is crazy).Fine the union 700 million per day, retroactively since the strike began.Every striking worker gets a criminal record whether or not they went back to work.Even without those things, and even if they get the money, they’re all going on a list that Samsung will do things with… best case scenario.Most companies hav a contingency plan that involves shutting down the whole sub-business and starting another one without those people on the list. That’s worst case.Sk-Hynix has the list of troublemakers already, nobody’s changing employers.
>>108816955He’ll pay other plebs to shank you
Should be noted that unlike Samsung, Micron is paying out handsomely to workers for the profits they are making from the datacenter boom.I'm sure there will be no shortage of workers considering moving to Micron who would be welcomed there due to their experience in these fab facilities already.
>>108816955we sort of did that during the scamdemic, and for over 2 years, mind youand the consequences are still felt.
>>108817186wtf is with samsung then? Micron says you got it keep the money. Hynix says you got it keep the money? Samsung gets the government involved and tries to get them to execute a slavery order? How are they gonna attract staff in the future after this?
>wagies are getting out of their cagiesuhhh billionairebros.... is it time to fly to our private bunkers on our private islands?
>>108817037This is why immigration is important
>>108816977I'm already a millionaire...? Do you think that's a lot of money or something?>>108817015Funnily enough that has nothing to do with this. Thanks for playing though.>>108817051Sounds made up but cool. I'll put it this way: The only reason they're demanding profits is because some other company did it. It's jealousy and greed, pure and simple.>>108817149Cool cool, you want to pay a malus when there's a deficit? No? Didn't think so.
South Korea doesn't exist.
>>108816988
>>108817364>Cool cool, you want to pay a malus when there's a deficit? No? Didn't think so.Nah, the workers just get fired instead.
>>108816988Sounds like your workers need a union.
>>108816922oh noooooo muh green paper idol muh graphs oooohhh noooooo
>>108817364>Cool cool, you want to pay a malus when there's a deficit?we do, it's called a layoff, larping jeet
>>108817643Your insult makes no sense, jeets are some of the greediest shits on the planet.
>>108816922Based. Force Samsung into compliance. I hope the CEOs are threatened will labour camps if they dont comply.
>>108816922Extremely based. This Judaism bullshit needs to end. Chaebols are basically 10x the average US levels of corruption.
>>108816922If you work at Samsung or hell any memory related company, can't you just buy their stocks and actually get richer quicker?
>>108817051That's conservatives and their whole midset that anything that puts workers ahead of corpos and shareholders is socialism.On top of the fact that South Korea combines the worst aspects of American and Japanese business practices. How the country hasn't fallen into a revolution shows cultural masochism on their part. Either way, how badly will a Samsung strike fuck things up for computer parts? Or would everything be sucked up for AI Slop data plants anyway?
>>108816936>agree to work for an amount of money That agreement is finished.
>>108817659You wuz CEO sar
"South Korea" more like "Samsung: The Country" lmaoimagine sacrificing your ethnicity's fertility rate in order to grow the imaginary value of a corporationI can't even thank them for their sacrifice since Samsung is a garbage fucking company
>Samsung is gonna cause another IMF incidentwwwww
>>108816977I'm rooting for them until they start beating up and killing strikebreakers, and then I think they deserve a bullet between the eyes from the pinkertons
>>108817874Agreement over, no more job. :)
why don't they just import illegal mexicans to do the jobs that koreans wont
>the governmentwhich cult do they belong to this time
>>108816922They aren't as important as doctors so I don't think they can achieve anything. When the Doctor's strike happened, Doctors were threatening to leave critical patients for death unless their demands are met, effectively completely controlling the Korean boomer demographic. The Samsung workers have nothing like that and they can't threaten to not treat immediately visible deathbed patients either because it isn't equivalent
>>108818114Shamanic cult as usual. Both of the last ousted president are all in Shamanic cults, it's just that the cults disagree on certain things
>>108816922I'm not a gook wagie cuck, so why do I care?
>>108817021Yes it is. If you strike you are stealing my profits. Either quit or work. Pick one.
>>108818156Because RAM prices. Seriously, no one would even care if not for the shortages this year. None of yall cared when they did this last year which lead to this shortage in the first place.
>>108816922Best Korea wouldn't have this problem
>>108816955Can't happen it's impossible for large numbers of people to spontaneously work together. The only thing that bring a large number of people together is a charismatic leader. And in a worker situation those don't really naturally arise. Think about it, the only one in history that anyone knows is Jimmy Hoffa and look what happened to him. The corporate congress has owned the world for a long time. They will let us rats raise a stink from time to time so we think we have a bit of power but they know at the end of the day we have no choice but to get back in the wage cage because the bread and circuses are too good and no one is willing to be the first to dive into certain death to make a real change.
>>108816936>t. dog eat dog indoctrinated mutt
>>108816936>Defending billionaires Do you also show this attitude when chad fucks your wife?
>>108816922There is only one solution to this problem
>>108816922I will always stand with the workers. Samsung should pay up.
>>108816955Because some genius let them import infinity shitskins who come from different cultures and speak different languages, and you'll never organize all of them for that specific reason.
>>108816988Sure ya do, champ. That's why you're whining about "muh commies" on /g/
>>108816955Why do you think they're doing everything they can to totally flood the west with shitskins?
>>108818302Or he's beint truthful, does little to nothing for the business built on connections daddy set up for him, and his employees secretly hate him.The final is a given unless he's employing good little jeets, especially with his attitude.
>>108816922>this many golems in the replies crying about strikingLmaoWho cares if you think it’s theft? What are gonna do about it, retrain 90k fab workers under peak demand? Better pay up then faggot
>>108816922I though those were ISIS flags
>>108816988This is some extremely high quality bait. This might be the best bait I've seen.
I hope both sides have fun
>>108816988If you didn't show up to work under communism you'd get shot and your family would get sent to a work camp
>>108816936its called leverageif your work produces 10x profit but you get paid x striking hits the employer far more than the employee and can easily get you a massive raise. this is also one of the big disadvantages of underpaying your workers compared to the rest of the industry. if you wanna see retardation watch people in industries with ultra-slim margins or in that make no profit yet and run on investor money talk about unionizing and striking.big winner from this is hynix, they give so much of their profits as bonuses to workers it causes other companies who underpay to fail like samsung.
>>108818100Okay. No more product :)
>>108817953I think you should be sawed in half after you watch your family burn to death.
>>108817150>the act of getting money from people or forcing them to do something by threatening to tell a secret of theirs or to harm themWhat secret?
>>108816936>Agree to work for an amount of money>The value of my work goes up>Refuse to work for the lower value any longer What is not to understand
>>108817767Being a shareholder of your workplace has worse results that being a shareholder of something else.Like this example. Both grups are financialy in opposition, if employees win shareholders lose, and vice versa. By being in both you are guaranteed to eat some of that lossUf you instead invested in something else, employees could win in your workplace, while they lose where you hold shares, letting you enjoy winning on both sides
>>108818131If I don't work you lose $700 million a day. Is it important for you to have me working?
Defending Samsung in this situation is crazy because they brought it on themselves. In a job like this, the value of the labor of the workers is directly correlated to the value of the memory chip. The memory cartel including Samsung are intentionally shutting down fabs to artificially raise memory chip prices, increasing the value of their workers labor. They are the ones who did this so fuck em.
>>108818131If you think sick people are more important than shareholder revenue, you've clearly not been following the world these past decades.
>>108817364>Cool cool, you want to pay a malus when there's a deficit? No? Didn't think so.The request is for company performance based bonus.So if the profits crater, so do the bonuses. If it becomes really bad, they'll be laying off staff anyway.It should not surprise you that companies giving bonuses when the company was doing well was common in the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, and now when everything is freaking unaffordable but companies are making record profits, they do no share it with the workers.
>>108816922Based, got this samsung phone begrugingly as the last chance for big tech 'smart -phoneI wont be getting another smartpbone and require domestically pdoduced chips, if rhat means 1950s tier compufe thats fine by ne
>>108819801$700m is 0.3% of Samsung's global revenue. They could easily ignore the strikers until they get hungry and go back to work.They just want daddy gubment to issue a slavery order because it would be cheaper>>108818162by your logic, if they quit they would also be stealing your profits by not working.there's no substantial difference between striking and quitting, except that a strike is intended to be temporary.if you're trying to draw a distinction on the basis that strikers are usually protected by the gubment then that's a separate issue, but in this case it doesn't apply since the SK gubment is considering intervening *against* the strikers
Don't worry one day ram will be worth pennies again. When that happens Samsung can fire them all.
I wonder what the national impression in Korea is, if they support the strike action or feel the workers are greedy and damaging the national economy. I hope it's not the latter but knowing Asian countries it probably is.
>7 in 10 Koreans Call Samsung Strike "Inappropriate," 81% Opposition in Honam> In contrast, only 18.5% said the strike was "appropriate as a legitimate exercise of rights and a demand for compensation," with negative sentiment running roughly four times higher than positive sentiment.>Even among those in their 20s and 30s, negative responses exceeded 62%, indicating clear opposition to the strike across all generations.>”No solidarity. No strategy. No experience”: Korean labor unions criticize Samsung Strike>Lack of solidarity: “Protecting only our own rice bowl>Lack of strategy: focusing only on semiconductors led to internal division**>Lack of experience: the union chair went on vacation and attacked another company’s unionOh everyone is pissed at them. It seems there's also an issue where they are only asking for primary contractors to get the bonus while subcontractors are ignored. In Hynix deal subcontractors get 75-80% of what the primary contractors get in performance bonuses. From Koreans perspective this is already well paid staff demanding more money for themselves rather than changing conditions fundamentally.
>>108818178sounds like a poor problem to me. Besides the shortage isn't due to gook peasants refusing to work, they can replace them in a heartbeat, most of the work is automated anyway. The shortage is caused by data centers "Reserving" the memory for GPU's that aren't even made yet and by the time they are will be obsolete. Vast majority of data centers will be derelict by the time they have to become operational. And energy suppliers are jumping ship at the wrong time.
>>108816955Wasn't there that story years ago about how Amazon would deliberately hire a diverse mix of workers because they'd stick to their own kind and not rally together to unionise?
>>108819774The value of work has not gone up.
>>108817128cuck country
>>108820261$700m A DAY dumbass. 100% / 365 is 0.27% that's the percent of revenue you earn on average each yearThey would be missing on more than that. In other words, they would be missing on EVERYTHING
>>108820576>one day ram will be worth pennies againYou are dreaming. Demand will keep going up while resources will diminish.
someone tell the tankies unions are illegal in socialist regimes and so is unemployment, meanwhile strikes in capitalist countries are mostly about occupying the place of work, not somehow freeing yourself from employment. lmao
>>108821345Literally has, though. RAM prices have quadrupled at minimum.
>>108817186>dykronHow many employees did they fire before deciding to give a pittance of cash to those left over? It wouldn't be the first time they hit record profits and sent a few hundred employees to the unemployment office so they could make line go up.
