Why does the "use AI or you'll fall behind" crowd never show anything they built with AI?
>>108824188because nearly all AI slop code is just glue code for CRM and crud data entry systems, basically the same soulless programming work people were doing before, now completely automated.
>>108824188if you're bored then you're boring
>>108824188sucking Chisato's toes
>>108825908Show us what you've made
>>108824188because you're stupid and a luddite, you think you "build stuff" with AI, that's as stupid and broad as saying "why don't you show stuff yo built with human hands". ok, here's EVERYTHING. deumbass. you want to see what I built with AI? tiktok.comthey pay me over 2 million per year tc.
do you think you could fuck chisato straight
Can someone explain wtf do they even mean by "fall behind"? proomting is easiest shit to learn compared to the rest of bullshit we have to keep up with in tech. Is it an Indian thing? I know they're mentally deficient on average, maybe it's hard for em
>>108826072grifters / consultants see AI as greenfield for selling courses, workflows, best practices, certificationsuse fear to sell these to clueless managementsame shit as agile in the 90s
>>108824188>never show anythingwhy would anyone show their one of a kind software to anyone. the days of some fag in khakis making an overly complicated system like visual foxpro and selling a 1000 page wrox "bible" about it at a convention are over. software now needs to be secret. no one gives a shit what you had AI make. AI can recreate anything in a matter of hours. github is probably the stupidest site there is. yes let me share my fork that gives me a business advantage and took 1 hr to make.
>>108825943you know that thing you just did for free, do it again but with your portfolio attachedin for a penny
Because that's for my employer to look at and not you, retard.
>>108824188what's this "use ai? then you must show what you built" crap.i use AI to troubleshoot problems that would have taken longer searching on the internet manually. You use AI to make slop to goon to. We are not the same.
>>108824188SAAAAAR I AM MBA TRUST SAAAAAR
>>108826535thanks, I was expecting you to drag this out but a clean explicit refusal this early will do fine
i generate a lot, A LOT, of kid feet. cant post that here.
>>108826535/thread
Ive made apps for me.And yeah the ui on phone seems fucked up Maybe i should vibecode an app where you can drag and drop screenshots of your phone and they just pile up on rows. Would be easy af i guess.Now i wonder if i could use another programm for my phone for screenshots but it would automatically erase exif and metadata so i wouldn't need exif eraser.
>>108824188Try asking it to make you a webpage to fulfill a task. The html and whatever else it spits out can do a lot, even if you believe everything needs to be done with a compiler. I can give you a theoretical: jailbreak game consoles browsing to a locally hosted webpage for media player instead of the garbage one provided out of the box, will probably lead to bigger exploits later. The reddit crowd and vanilla fags said PS4/PS5 would never work as a cd player, turns out you can burn Joliet style dvds full of music and have them play, provided you have a file browser or media player that can check the disk. Under normal circumstances it would tell you the disc is unreadable, and the guys who retort with ackshually... would tell you to author a regular dvd like a movie and index each song with a bookmark on a menu. For older consoles there might be more homebrew stuff that people have yet to imagine, the ones that have web browsers atleast. Unity apps can be launched on PS4, but after sometime when autists train the more proprietary sdks for older hardware then you might be able to request simple games on devices that are timesinks to develop for.Try asking Grok for an mp3 or audio player, think of all the stuff you would want for it. Even a way to customize the UI with your own pictures for buttons/backgrounds, or channel controls. It was one of the first things I asked for to listen to EMS/police radio streams, where you get different information per channep.
>>108826504Prove it by showing me ONE (1) AI software that is equivalent to a pre-AI software of note. There are bazillions of open problems in software yet not a single person has even claimed to fix one of them yet.
>>108826538So you are agreeing that AI is useless and the only thing you get value out of is replacing scroogle and their ad > search quality bullshittery.
>>108826717>it can do a lot>just imagine my theory>no I've never tried but the news cycle tells me it totally worksProving OP's point.
>>108824188I used claude to build an image duplicate finder so I can manage my massive hentai/anime folder, the compiled exe ended up being 26mb and worked better than the program I found online which was 100mb+, I don't care enough about attention or money to attempt to distribute this, not to mention anyone can just make the same thing with AI coding if they know how to be specific
>>108827315Or you could just have used md5 in a loop.Proving OP's point.
fall behind? sorry, i dont play normalnigger games.
>>108827315Wait, are you manually checking for duplicates? Lol, fucking retard
>>108827315Dupeguru is powerful, cross-platform, and just 30MB on Windows. It just works. https://github.com/arsenetar/dupeguru/releases
>>108827452>>108827315Fucking lmao. Did Claude get inspired by the sensitivity slider, folder groups, default recycle bin deletion and side-by-side preview in dupeGuru?
>>108825908That does not answer the question at all.
>>108827393Yes I manually check and delete because sometimes it's just the same image but slightly alternative versions that a duplicate will flag>>108827452I used dupeguru for a while but the algorithm failed at catching all the images that are the same but have different sizes and file types (example, it couldn't associate a 4k png with a low res jpg, despite it being the same image), the vibe coded software I made doesn't have this problem because I explained it to Claude
>he didn't invest in NFTs and is ngmi
The vast majority of software is now built with aiYou are actually just out of touch
>>108827549I accept your surrender. Tech illiterates like you belong on >>>/r/eddit/
>>108825908>>108826535so you're only programming for work. if it's just work to you why are you even here go find a hobby
do girls kiss girls in this show?
>>108827263We can all agree you're a mong.
>>108827266If you can't imagine a use for it then you don't need it.
>>108824188Claude Code was written by LLMs. Of course, everyone hates CC and thinks it's pure shit, but nevertheless, it is an actual product on the market.
40 fucking replies of nuh-uh? Fucking kek. This shit is definitely over.
>>108828969>ok it can't actually do any of this and won't be able to in the next 100 years but JUST IMAGINEConfirmed clinically retarded.
>>108828983No, it was not written with LLMs lmao
>>108826100It's sad that even the community college here in Detroit is getting in on the action. They're offering a class in "Prompt Engineering", leading to a certificate in the same if you take five other courses. It'll cost about $3000 to take all six courses and no employer is going to take an AI Prompt Certificate from Wayne County Community College seriously. $3000 is pretty cheap compared to what most others charge but WCCC is primarily for ghetto women hoping to find a way out of the hood. Instead they're just going to end up with a bunch of student loans and a mostly worthless certificate. >This course explores the evolution of Artificial Intelligence (AI) and introduces prompt engineering, the skill of crafting effective inputs to guide AI systems. You’ll learn best practices for prompt writing, the impact of different prompt types, and strategies for fostering inclusive, unbiased AI. Through practical exercises, you’ll develop the ability to use AI as a collaborative tool to enhance your work and support ethical, equitable outcomes across diverse applications.
>>108829016Ok, let me restate: Anthropic CLAIMS their LLM wrote Claude Code. The product is shitty enough for that to be believable.
>>108829037This I can of course get behind.
>>108824188Because they are fired.
>>108824188>Why does the "use AI or you'll fall behind" crowd never show anything they built with AI?They do.https://www.palantir.com/impact/airbus/https://www.palantir.com/impact/axel-springer/https://www.palantir.com/impact/cleveland-clinic/https://www.palantir.com/impact/concordance/https://www.palantir.com/impact/powering-innovation-for-doosan-infracore/https://www.palantir.com/impact/fujitsu/https://www.palantir.com/impact/jacobs/https://www.palantir.com/impact/kindermorgan/https://www.palantir.com/uk/healthcare/https://www.palantir.com/impact/disaster-response/https://www.palantir.com/impact/ringier/https://www.palantir.com/impact/sonnedix/https://www.palantir.com/impact/sompo/https://www.palantir.com/impact/swiss-re/https://www.palantir.com/impact/tampa-general-hospital/https://www.palantir.com/impact/world-food-programme/
>>108824188You don't need to use it to write any code for it to be useful. It's a great tool for finding solutions to all sorts of problems. The old way:>struggle to find the right keywords>wade through tons of websites or documentation>read through a ton of shit you don't care about to find the thing you wantedWith AI:>explain what you want and what for>AI does the searching and filtering for you and offers possible solutions with a short summary for each>you can pick one and do your research from there or ask further questionsIt's a huge help for this reason alone, even if do all the coding yourself.
Who is coding with ai? I use it to consolidate all of my plans and my schedule, banking, diet, and so on. It checks on me if my behaviour is out of the norm. Instead of a 4-8 thousand dollar 100+ page small business accounting plan I just give it my statements and run every purchase past it.
>>108824188So you’re wondering why workers don’t take the code they made under contract while on the clock and post it online like this is a War Thunder argument?
>>108829255No, we're wondering why the product made on the clock is not available for use or being sold to anyone.
>>108824188>your goalposts will never settle...>one-shots aren't enoughpic rel, I made a remote control web app for each smart tv I have that runs on my local network. I use it to operate each tv, mostly to turn them off in other rooms while a baby is sleeping. I can see the current running app, change channels and volumes, power on/off, etc. I prompted Claude to find repos for my different types of tvs, it scanned my network, looked on github for existing repos, made a shitload of fixes to open source abandonware, and set up a docker architecture that runs on a Raspberry Pi. >>108829306>bot or troll or trollbot, not sure yet...It's a tool. Your home was built with electric-powered equipment and no one's going back to Amish-style building when there's other shit to do in life. There's no need to prove the worth of an electric drill over a hand-crank drill - it's just better as long as you have electricity. If you're not jumping on the hype train, you're a fool. Tech never regresses.
>>108829609You can buy an electric drill and use it and see it works better. You can pay for LLMs and use them and see they're 1000x worse.You can see houses and items made with electric drills. You can't see any software made with AI. Why is that?
>>108824188This was made with ai instead of spending $1000 on an artist.Anymore questions faggot?
>>108829847Yes. How long until you can make it not look like jizzed out plastic puke-worthy garbage and instead something I would pay an artist at least $1 for?
>>108828969If you can't imagine, you might need it
>>108829855Since day 1.
>>108829869Still waiting. Why can't you post it if it's real?
>>108829882Shut the fuck up.
>>108825943Literally admitting you haven't made anything.
>>108825929I don't use AI for hobbiest shit, retard. I only used it for work.
>>108826072The skill is in tardwrangling the AI to get high quality results faster than you would by hand.AI can produce nonsense code, it's true. Your job as a programmer is to find a way to prevent that.
>>108829855How much were you paying artists before AI?
>>108829904Meant for>>108827826
>>108829914I have never paid for art
>>108824188Because you're blind. The world is moving on from anti-ai trannies. Its in your OS, its in your network, its in your social media, its in your translation tools, its in your shopping apps,its in your games, its in your music.
>>108824188because bots don't build anything and people building don't feel the need to keep talking about how much more productive they are thanks to silly machine
>>108824188It's because they are always mocked when they do. Every time I see the most hyperbolic claims about how amazing what they've "built" is it turns out to be automating idiotic things that no one would ever want or need to automate. You have to consider that the people making these claims are universally socially-retarded and isolated from the normal population. For them, "everything" is a narrow band of tasks that aren't important or comprehensive to mature and well-adjusted people.To me it is obvious that LLM's will only be useful when they are made in smaller portions and custom-trained on specific topics with a task in mind. There should be a model to "write code in C++" specifically, or interpret biological things, etc, things like that. This is existing somewhat in the private sector already but far less than you would expect.AI psychosis is very real and has infected most of that industry. In practice I think LLM's are similar to the advancement in programming in the early days from punch card/manual assembly to using somewhat natural language like in C. Huge deal and efficiency boost but not something that upends the entire economy.
>>108829914the internet "artists" in question were people drawing perverted gooner shit. I'm glad Ai is putting them out of business.
>>108824188AI hype guys are the strangest and most off-putting of investment hype guy. Crypto guys talked about innovations in privacy, economic freedom, escape from inflation, etc. It was a positive vision. AI hype guys have a purely negative vision and sell their thing to you in terms of avoiding punishment. Like you have to use AI because you will be destitute in the permanent underclass forever otherwise. There's no implication that your life will be better for having AI in it, just that it might prevent it from getting worse if you're lucky.
>>108826072There are people who are so stupid that they can't even make effective proompts, you'll see them post on /g/ sometimes.
>>108830402There's also a big overlap with "effective altruism" and "futurist" weirdos who ominously drone and vaguepost about the singularity and AGI.I don't get these people and they talk like cultists.
>>108824188>Interracial gay sex industry plant anime with transgender general larping as wholesome Yuri (girl in double for men).
>>108829102I almost bought Fujitsu AC, glad I didn't.
>>108831148Chisato is straight as an arrow
>>108824188>Why does the "use AI or you'll fall behind" crowd never show anything they built with AI?You know why >pyw fags on /ic/ never actually post their own work?
>>108831201>Interracial gay sex industry plant anime with transgender general larping as wholesome Yuri
>>108829855trick question RETARD those were made by a human artist, a really famous one at that.
>>108831754It looks like shadman, and AI can only do shadmans, so it's all the same to me. You see, the problem never has and never will be AI in and of itself. The problem always has been and always will be low quality slop. The problem is that 100% of AI content is low-quality slop, vs only 90% of human content.
>>108825816>>108825816
>>108825943youre accepted! sucha talent! hehehe
>>108829609>Tech never regresses.But what if...
>>108832499AI is in recursive self refinement mode. It literally learns from any mistake and exponentially improves it. Expecting any winter is hilarious at this point.
>>108827260Literally every major piece of software sold in 2026 is 95+% AI written. End of story. Face it, Luddite—you lost. AI won.
>>>/g/ldg
>>108832530>implying improving codex = improving AIBased retard
>>108830471> vaguepost about the singularity and AGINeither is possible. They use this model because it is the same as early Christianity. An apocaliptic sect. "Teh end is near" shit. It always worked, people care for some reason, even if they don't talk about it. Because it's not anything rational, it is a matter of faith. You either believe him or not. Some people just do, for some reason. Because they want to believe.Since it is an old, well known and proven to work, they use this marketing trick.
>>108832530That's not even remotely how any of that works, moron.>>108832499This picture is only accurate at a very high level. The 2nd ai winter was specifically about experts systems. Machine learning was the default mode in the middle of the latest winter, and it is neural network in deep learning mode alone that emerged in this boom. ML was there a much longer time and did not participate, it should be seen as a separate branch. It's more accurate to place the start of the actual rise around 2013-2016, though the current high point is at the right spot. Also, the durations ascribed to the winters are not historically accurate either, they were shorter than that.
>>108827260Buddy, there's a codeberg repo that keeps track of software that don't have AI code. Check that out lmao, it'll be easier to find a product that don't use AI.
>>108824188Why do tranime profile pics often makes the most retarded posts? /a/ bans frog posters saying they're low quality demonstrably it's one of the lowest quality, if not the lowest quality board in this place.
>>108834936Not "a product that uses AI" such as a chatbot, pajeet, a product created by or written heavily with AI. Learn English.
>>108826072Stuff like A2A, RAG, MLOps, etc...
>>108834976The worst part is this is just a rephrasing of shit we had 40 years ago though. The whole concept of agents in the first place being the most egregious. It's not fall behind, it's learn the new lingo for the ancient stuff because there is 0 improvements happening.
I built a 4chan.org memeflag hider Tampermonkey module, wanna see it?
>>108834969Your question was asking things made with help if AI. You've never asked for the degree of the quality or the degree of the extend of AI usage. Seems like plenty of people replied in the thread but it seems like it's pointless arguing with you because you keep the moving the goal post or asking for some arbitrary measure of quality that you can always move. Have a nice day :^)By the way are you so retarded you expect anyone to post their public github repo to argue with a tranny faggot like you lmao.
>>108824188Because you'll whine endlessly, so we just put it out there incognito and you're the one too dumb to tell the difference.
>>108824188I’m being paid to shill, not to buildeasy money tho
>>108834969Also ironically you didn't bother to read what I wrote. I explicitly stated 'programs that don't use ai generated code'. Not using chatbots lmao.https://codeberg.org/small-hack/open-slopware#programming-languagesGood luck with your Zim engineering career.
>>108835027How do i become a paid shill on 4chan
>>108835012>Your question was asking things made with help if AI. You've never asked for the degree of the quality or the degree of the extend of AI usageYes. Operative word is "made", but if you can point out to anything specific at least we can discuss it. But I have yet to see anything at all that is indeed made with AI. Not to say that I haven't noticed that some of the buggiest most fucked up changes in software lately have merged PRs clearly made by AI, but also that bug reports and PRs using AI bots constantly have a 100% 'thumb down' rate and an extreme close rate even on those who sometimes use AI. Those are also from codebases that are 99%+ human written before any kind of AI involvement even in theory, and by human I mean pajeet. Thus, this can't be said to be made with AI anymore than if the pajeets were using intellisense (which of course they are).>plenty of people replied in the threadYes, and for some reason not a single one was able to point to a single example. All of them replied in the style "omg they all use it trust me bro" or "omg they won't release because it's proprietary".Your response also follows this pattern: you have yet to provide a single example.Take the L and cry about it.
>>108835052>I explicitly stated 'programs that don't use ai generated code'. Where in this text do you see the statement, schizo?>>108834936>Buddy, there's a codeberg repo that keeps track of software that don't have AI code. Check that out lmao, it'll be easier to find a product that don't use AI.Take your meds unironically.
>>108835052The repo tracks software that have AI features, e.g. have an assistant available. It also tracks repos that have a permissive use-of-AI policy, that use AI "art" (as simply as creating a logo, no actual product use required), repos that permit AI to ingest them, or who are sponsored by AI companies. Those are not the same thing and none of these are "has AI code". You are retarded and illiterate, but nothing more can be expected of AIfags after all.
>come into thread>useless niggers arguing about worthless nigger shitWhat happened to 4chan
>>108835118Did you even bother reading lmao>>108835107"there's a codeberg repo that keeps track of software that don't have AI code"Once again, did you even bother reading what you copied lmao.This isn't moving goalposts at the points. This is sad and pathetic denial state lmao.
>>108835118And they explicitly go in to what is the degree of permissivity in each section, explicitly stating what allowed llm generate code for each section. Not just using ai art lol.
>>108835142>get btfo>backpedals>still entirely wrong>allowing AI code by license means there is AI code in the repo and vice versaYou have an IQ below 20.
>>108835103>But I have yet to see anything at all that is indeed made with AI.There's plenty of stuff being vibe coded and made with help of code assist everyday. You're probably jobless or incredibly isolated and exists in a bubble.Every second day, a steam game comes out with someone whining about AI use. Here's an example of one I guess. https://rfab.aiIt's creator admitted it's 80-90% vibe coded>t I haven't noticed that Lol>some of the buggiest most fucked up changes in software lately have merged PRs clearly made by AIOnce again, you're asking for some arbitrary measure of quality that is always movable so you can claim you won. It's like arguing with a brick wall.
>>108835195The only "games" I see here are 100 lines of code copy-pasted from ai dungeon. Am I missing something or are you just AI-brained?I have 13 years of exp in industry, with a mix of FAGMAN and startup experience. Nobody uses AI. In the past several years, leadership has tried extensively to make us use AI and paid for all kinds of AI services like augment and codex and claude code and all that shit. The conclusion is always the same: it's useless. AI PR and security reviews are 99% noise and miss nearly everything meaningful. AI code is so bad it has to be manually rewritten before it passes PR, and we've had very loose criteria in general where I worked. We also find that AI takes longer than a human to make new features. The only part people sometimes (it's very mixed in opinion in the teams I've been) is useful is to fetch documentation to figure out what function could be used to build something. But even then it often gets the wrong thing.You clearly have never worked a day in your life in a programming adjacent job. You are hallucinating videcoded programs that don't exist and fail to find a single example of an AI written program, even though your argument has been that all software is AI written nowadays. No amount of coping and backpedaling will erase how wrong you are.
>>108824188Literally 90% of new code is AI generated across professional products, any product you use has vibe code in it.
>>108834964>/a/ bans frog posters saying they're low quality demonstrably it's one of the lowest quality, if not the lowest quality board in this place.K is worse just saying
>>108835260I have came to the realization that we are all dead, but cling to the illusion of life while serving in hell.
>>108835280Hell doesn't have cheeseburgers
>>108835284THEN WHY IS THE CHEESE MELTING!?!We stuff our mouths full of rotting foods; cheeses that are moulding, we drink the juices of fruits that are decaying.We burn our food over flames.We boil flesh and vegetables until they fall apart.We live in a world of decay.How is this not hell?
>>108835121This is what 4chan has become. It used to be about fucking the system, anon vs the rest the world. It was us or them, epic trolls and hacks. Now you people are just reddit 2.0, crying like babies.Oh well, at least I am still legion.
>>108835509Furthermore, consumerism was strongly frowned upon or even against the rules of some boards. Now it's all anyone cares about. There used to be very high standards, and when the board as a whole said one same thing, it was only the result of settled discussion based on complex arguments on both sides that had gone on for weeks before any consensus arose. Now it's just about what popular tiktoker said one day to all the impressionable indians that populate this site.
>>108835095I don’t shill on 4chin, the value must be extremely low so nobody but bots or jeets doif you want to be paid for shilling you have to have an audience first, on a platform where the average consoomer has more than monthly retard stipend. jewtube, podcasting, twitch, just about anything goes.
>>108835509>Oh well, at least I am still legion.Newfag
>>108835604>There used to be very high standards, and when the board as a whole said one same thing, it was only the result of settled discussion based on complex arguments on both sides that had gone on for weeks before any consensus arose.Where the fuck do you larpers come fromGoddamn zoomers
>>108824188Because they know it will get hacked.
>>108836479You wouldn't know, you've only ever been here all summer.
>>108835260Maybe during testing. Final deployment doesn't even have 1% of what the ai spat out since it is pure garbage.
>>108824188I made an android app with it called ChuckleShare. You can share videos with it and it transparently uses ytdlp to download and reshare them on any platform. No more links in the chat!
>>108829893rude
>>108825908you're retarded and grandmas>>108825943we don't pay from spergs like you.>>108826642Sneed, also the boss fired you.
>>108825937we don't pay to fweetards libtards like youalso go back to facebook.
>>108836812wut
>>108839180>>108839206epic fail!
>>108835260Name one (1) professional product that you use that has had a noticeable uptick in new features, bug fixes, or overall quality since the start of the AI age.
