Is this a good printer? I'm looking for a printer for functional/quality prints at the lowest cost, not interested in speed
>>108826344Might be better to ask on the 3D printing general over at >>>/diy/
>>108826344>good ?Bed slingers are shit, but for this price it's ok but way too small.
>>108826344idk I'm not into 3d printing but still need to print parts here and there so I got bambu a1 mini and it just works and was $200 or so.
>>108826344I bought that one but returned it for a Neptune 4 Pro. FYI it had the same sale price 3 years back when the 4 series came out.The 4 has klipper support by default and a bunch of other qol fixes. I wouldn't get the 3.
>>108826344I have that exact one, it's alright for PLA and PETG. Nothing fancy, it just werks>>108830290The 4 uses non-standard nozzles and I heard that the CPU is kinda shit for klipper
i bought a refurbished anycubic kobra 3 on ebay recently for 140 and i like it a lot. its also my first printer
>>108830312>The 4 uses non-standard nozzlesDoes it? I didn't even notice, I bought steel nozzles in a bunch of sizes from aliexpress and they all just worked. I probably searched for neptune 4 specifically but they weren't hard to find.>CPU is kinda shit for klipperI haven't noticed this at all. I have a webcam hooked up to the usb port and use the webui over ethernet, I've never felt it stutter or hitch once. I flashed klipper on the 3 and it was a lot worse, but it wasn't really made for that anyway so it's kind of an unfair comparison. I guess I just think native klipper and the faster print speed is worth an extra $60.
>>108830388>Does it? I didn't even notice,Yeah. The standard are MK3 nozzles
>>108826344No, buy a bamboo or similar.Wasting time fiddling and with ruined prints is not worth what you're saving on the price.
>>108830425that's what I'm saying. I have enough calibration to do with filament, I don't need to wonder if the printer is just being shit.
>>108830425>bumbuThe prints might look a bit nicer, but you lock yourself into 100% locked down chinkshit
>>108830525That's so weird, mine is using orca slicer and doesn't even communicate with bambu servers? Skill issue ig
>>108830559>he doesn't knowhttps://github.com/jarczakpawel/OrcaSlicer-bambulab
>>108830681>he can't readYeah nigga, I run that shit off lan.
I've had one for a few years and enjoy it for what it is at it's price point. I don't have much room for the printer, so it's size was perfect for my needs. I put klipper on a raspberry pi. Sure plugging in a pi is another step, but it turned out to be well with it. It works well with orca slicer. After spending the cash for the pi it's in the range of a Neptune 4 pro. I didn't have to fiddle with it when it had the stock nozzle and Marlin controller, beyond bed leveling when first assembled. Failed prints were due to bed adhesion, which a glue stick solved. I changed the print nozzle to .8mm for faster prints and put an all steel block with a heating cartridge that was higher wattage. Those alterations required a bit of tuning. Such as adjusting feed rate, max cartridge temp, etc klipper was easily editable to accommodate the modifications. I use mine for rapid prototyping rather than anything that needs to be pretty. I'll use resin if looks matter. I agree that core xy is a better printer, but I'm not buying another printer until this one shits the bed. All in all this printer works well out of the box and can be easily modified with a little bit of tuning.
>>108826344I bought an Ender 3 a couple years ago but it got lost in transit and I got a refund for it. Then like a year later, it must have been going and then delivered. It works fine after some modifications and upgrades and trail and error. Not bad for a free 3d printer.
>>108826344Ender 3 off FB Marketplace. Get good.
I 3D printed a new cock since mine was so small. I used black filament. I get so much white pussy now it's scary.
>>108826344What 3D printers exist, explicitly respecting the owner's right to flash and control firmware? Specifically Richard Stallman & Louis Rossmann spirit animal 3D printers? No garbage that sends part files to the OEM for 'approval' please, or you're a jamboy.
>>108826344I'm down to three choices that are around the same price range> 1. ZeroG Mercury.1 near me on Facebook Marketplace with a Honeybadger kit> 2. Take my two Enders and create a Duender> 3. Voron 0.2 KitWhich would you guys choose?
>>108834055All I know is: boycott Bambu entirely and forever.
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>>108834241Test Result: FAILED
I recently updated my ender 3 with a sprite extruder and the x axis kinda works but it doesn't auto home. I have a video here: https://files.catbox.moe/05ohuj.mp4what's the solution to this print bros? i wanna get back to printing especially since my ma wants me to print her some taco shell holders :c
>>108834667Does pressing the x limit switch by hand stop the homing sequence? Is the x limit switch fully plugged in? Is the belt tension proper? Any way you can factory reset if yes to the prior questions?
>>108835029i fixed it, it was an improperly seated plug
>>108834174this is the way
I was thinking of replacing my original anycubic kobra with a bambu p1s without ams since they're only $400. maybe I'll just put klipper on it, I've avoided it this whole time because originally you had to take it apart and solder a jumper on something and I was just too lazy but some folks have come out with software solutions over the years.
Think I'm going to pull the trigger on an H2C
>>108835089Awesome, good luck with the taco holders
>>108834174>>108836024The hobby is never going back to what it once was.That's a good thing btw
>>108837517It's been an open source movement since it hit the consumer market. That same mentality will prevail for some printer manufacturers and users. But, I agree that the landscape will drastically change for better and worse.
>>108830525What's locked down? You can use 3rd party filaments, use 3rd party slicers, and buy 3rd party replacement components if something breaks. Thats the opposite of locked>>108830849 down. You sound like the retards on r*ddit
>>108837865It's locked down because the printer generally works and thus much less need to fuck with it.
>>108837865I dont know how I managed to fuck this post up
>>108837659Open source lost.Not literally but spiritually, even Prusa admits it.Gone are the days of printers being reprap or made from "common" components. They are all going to be made like appliances like Bambu's.You'll be able to fix them but the ability to mod printers will be a lot harder since everything is more tightly integrated.
>>108834055Prusa, I think? They're also made in Europe. And Josef Prusa himself was a big contributor to the RepRap project. Their designs are also open source.
>>108837957>You'll be able to fix them but the ability to mod printers will be a lot harder since everything is more tightly integrated.see>>108837891there is way less need to fuck with modding your printer and turn it into a GNU/car when it already justwerks
>>108826344Whatever you do, do NOT buy bambu.
>>108838197I'm gonna buy more bambu printers lol
>>108837957>>108838082Agreed. They just werk. And most are already shipping with all metal heat blocks and better heating cartridges. Only thing that needs to be changed is the nozzle for user applications. Software side is where the open source ideals need to be held high.
Buying Bambu X2D, and you open sores jeets can't do anything about it :D
>>108838401Kek
>>108838197>Whatever you do, do NOT buy bambu.Their greedy, jewish Apple behavior aside, why not? Most 3D printing farms and professional prototypers have switched over to bambu labs printers.
>>108826344Prusa is the white man's high trust society choice. Which is why Bambu will win.
>>108838865How are they doing? It's been years since I checked on them. Do they still have bullshit prices for outdated hardware?
>>108838776Printing farms dgaf about files going to bambu servers. It's not like they're printing gun parts or Hitler busts. No need to worry about big brother looking at them with a magnifying glass. The people that intend on printing no no items will find a way around scrutiny, if not they deserve what they get. For the majority of users that only care about Star wars trinkets, oversight committee mean zilch.
>>108838924>or Hitler busts.Most print farms I spoke to are ok with this sort of stuff too. They're even ok with gun parts as long as they're for props only and can be accessed through normie websites.
>>108838944Faith in humanity restored kek. It appears most of the bitching about data going back to bambu is overblown. I don't see many people replacing the ECM from their cars because it pings the manufacturer. But I stand behind the people that do want to keep the right to work on their own gear, if they've got the capacity to do so.
>>108838890If you are going to buy a Prusa, nowdays one might as well go "straight to the end" and buy the Prusa Core One with the INDX conversion kit.There is nothing from Bambu that can match it, the closest would be the H2C obviously, for less nozzles and way more waste. Problem is, said kit and printer all together cost $2300 or so. Its basically the equivalant of buying the "lambo" of consumer printers, with the analogy being complete in it being European, and Expensive. (I say "consumer". because obviously, more industrial 3d systems ProJet MJP 5600 something things that cost 5 are a completely other class of their own)The fight on the other end on the other hand has been lost for some time now. Their current "cheapest" printer, the Prusa Mini I presume, costs from what I can see $550 and the Bambu Mini A1 $200 or $330 or something with the AMS which wasteful of not (if you print things like mere text on signs not even really that wasteful really) is a very cool capability to have. Utter smackdown. You'd literally have to be ideological to linux guy-hating-apple levels to justify this.
>>108838944The data going back to Bambu was never a problem due to Hitler Busts.In reality what they almost certainly do is collect stats on which models are popular and then print them on large scale chinese farms that cannot be competed with due to economies of scale. Every model that gets popular will inevitably be copied and then found on AliExpress / Temu.
>>108839101I'm confused why people would go to chyna for FDM stuff. Is it that much cheaper and lower MOQ?
SEETHE freetards
>>108839116Even 3d printing has some costs in "workhours" in terms of taking the print out of the plate, packing and shipping it etc. So if you can pay the workers almost nothing, that is an advantage. And large printing farms, can buy their printers in bulk at some discount, as well as filament in bulk. Eventually all those advantages do end up. So eventually if you have done something popular like those bs dragons etc, an individual who might be thinking that they are going to "work from home" and just own a "3d printing business" with 6 printers in their garage can never compete. Copy paste that for all d&d and tabletop props etc (just do a search in Temu for them), and trice as turbocharged now with 3d model making AIs. Its still possible to survive if you have found some very specific niche (like very custom cosplay props etc) which of cource have to guard like a very precious secret while it still exist.(thus Bambu sending back data huge opsec. They probably dont care for said custom cosplay stuff, but if someone did someone started printing a specific model in large volumes. Even if they never uploaded it in makerworld or gave away the stl for free, which is ofc suicidial nowdays, that would still be easily detectable. So eventually even if you had a business of printing obscure n-scale airplane refuelling trucks or something, soon there will be n-scale refuelling trucks on aliexpress etc).
ok babe get out the piece of paper its time to calibrate your z-offset.
>>108839075these money grubbing pricks need to get a warehouse in the USA. no components in their product should be exclusive to the EU.
face it, any country that ins't china is getting mogged to fucking mars by china in 3d printin technologyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX3NtO-A-QM
>>108826344Just save up for a P2S
>>108834072If you wanna print higher-temp stuff like ABS or nylon, the V0 is the only machine there with an enclosure "out of the box", but its build volume is tiny. It was originally intended to be the entry-level Voron that let you print the parts for one of the bigger machines. It's also kinda a pain in the dick to build.The Mercury is pretty cool, especially if it has the Hydra upgrade, and can be enclosed if you want. Not super familiar with which toolhead ecosystem it uses but I'm sure there are mods for most of the big names.Duender is a very charming project, but easily the most limited machine there. Still uses V-wheels, no easy way to enclose it, but that makes it cheap to build and it'll still run your basic PLA and PETG fine, so if that's all you use it's a cool way to revive a pair of old Enders as something way faster.
>>108834174Explain. I got an a1 that hasn't been connected to the internet a few years ago and have enjoyed using it. What did they do?
>>108840409Pissed (((Rossmann))) off kek
>>108840411The guy that calls companies slave drivers for using ais and then uses ais but it's ok because he uses it """"ethically?""""
>>108840417Yes lmao
>>108840409Bambu has been very protective of it's cloud service lately as the security is lackluster at best.Recently they introduced a network plugin into official Bambu studio as an extra layer of authentication as previously anyone with credentials could issue gcode/commands to printers from anywhere and do very bad things with zero verification if it's from a legitimate source like a slicer.For 3rd party slicers, Bambu made a plugin called Bambu connect.Orca slicer is a community fork of Bambu slicer. Under Bambu's terms it must use Bambu connect to send cloud prints.The dev of Orca slicer used some code from the Bambu studio GitHub to restore direct cloud printing as Bambu has the code it uses to authenticate with the cloud service.Someone at Bambu labs proceeded to freak out a little and did the wrong thing and accuse the Orca dev of reverse engineering, stealing code, etcOrca dev then took it down and that's when the entire 3d printing community decided to pounce accusing Bambu of AGPL violations and bullying.In my personal opinion this really is less about the AGPL violations and more the fact the open source community has had it's ego dismantled by Bambu for lack of a better metaphor and has been looking for anything to tamp down Bambu.
>>108840643It was an OrcaSlicer fork that used publicly available Bambu code, not the main Orca branch, that's one thing some people got wrong initially.
>>108837865They are trying real hard to stop third party software.If you're new to 3D printing you don't realize that all other printers run on open source firmware except the bumbu shit.
>>108840643>has been looking for anything to tamp down BambuWell yeah because they have repeatedly shown that they are incredibly hostile and anti-consumer.They have a history of backpedaling and gaslighting customers which is the reason they requested their domains be excluded from archive.org, they have been caught trying to retroactively change both their consumer warranty/terms of service, and when they backpedaled on the firmware shit (which is what really kicked everything off a year ago) instead of just announcing they won't actually block printers that don't update they instead silently edited their original blog post then released a statement saying that people were spreading lies.I think some of the frustration also comes from the fact that they are a Chinese company (awful and annoying customer service), and when you try to highlight any issue online you have shills and bootlickers who will fall over themselves to absolve Bambu of any wrongdoing or gaslight you into thinking it's user error.
>>108838776IIRC when they initially pulled this shit last time, they were going to remotely disable your printers with no recourse if you didn't goatse yourself to them.This was before the backlash and half-assed LAN mode, dunno if they went through with it or if they chickened out.Either way, I wouldn't want to buy a printer with a remote killswitch in it. Most printers can be trivially flashed with an open-source firmware that works as well as bambu ones. Unless you're in love with their cloud services specifically, I wouldn't bother.
