When did the decline of PC gaming begin?
>>108827200Late 2000s
>>108827200First Obama admin.
>>108827200When we stopped using software rendering and writing engines from scratch using the newest techniques and research available at the time.
>>108827200with gta V being cuckconsole exclusive
>>108827200When all the cool strategy/management games floundered in their transition from 2D to 3D.
>>108827200the moment people willingly bought gpus costing more than $600. that moment they knew they could get away with anything
>>108827362this. remember the Titans.
When they started charging XX60 series cards the same price as XX70 series card. And now the XX50 series cards are being charged the same price as the XX70 cards
>>108827214Basically this. When mainstream switched away from PCs, and every desktop PC component became "for gaming" at a 3 time markup, because reddits "pc master race" retards would buy them anyway.
>>108827200I'd say the floods which caused storage prices to shoot up, back in 2011 or so. Then the crypto scam and now the AI grift. Every time prices went up but never went back down.
>>108827200is this another hike again? it already rose from 2k to 3k this year
When consoles switched to x86
>>108827200It was destined to happen still remember my 1050ti. I got for 8000 INR back in the day, that graphics card never sold for that price again.
>>108827200Today, when that article was posted.
>>108827200when gaming started to pursue realism/4k.wasting thousands of man hours on textures, engines etc, while they could be spend making great game mechanics or expanding the world the game is in.>>108827362mostly this.i live by a simple rule, the next gpu upgrade needs to double my fps and be under $500. I don't care if it's 2nd hand or not. Right now at 3080, lets see how long it takes until my next upgrade...
>>108827200>GDDR7I didn't even know that this exists, i thought that we would still be on GDDR6.Maybe this makes it obvious how unimportant this subject is to me.
>>108827200When per pixel lighting became viable in real time.
>>108827200Somewhere close to around Kepler
>>108827961what a babe
>>108827932gpus have stagnated, ever since the 900 series.now it's only 10-20% improvement flagship-to-flagship, while every flagship costs 30-40% more than previous gen.here's the cheapest x2 fps upgrade from a 3080, and it's more than double the price
late 2010s
>>108827362I remember buying the GTX 1060 6GB brand new for 280€ and I could play anything. Now the 5060 8GB costs around 320€ and it's basically DOA.
its not about price of the hardware as much at is what kind of games you can play on it, there is almost zero improvement in graphics quality in the past 10 years, while computing demands skyrocketed
>>108827310This. There was a clear path of development to achieve outcomes. Lighting, textures, load times. Ignored.
>>108827200Gaming was great, specially when it came to hardware up until about the time nvidia replaced 1080 with a 2080. There was certainly a pile of problems already, but it was nothing like today where you pay thousands of dollars to run a game at 30 FPS with DLSS framegen.
>>108827200As soon as nvidia gained majority marketshare over ATI.
>>108827200Whatever year nVidia introduced PhysX, that's when everything went downhill.
>>108829383and they gained that marketshare through powerful guerilla marketing. hire a bunch of indians & russians to spam driver issues about radeon.
>>108827999>Userbenchmarkyou should probs kys
>>108827200retards paying 1000$ for a GPU in 2018/2019
>>108827200Gay tracing. Realism in video games was a mistake
I happily use a 5050 and it plays every game I own. You don’t need a 5090 to play video games.
When? 2007-2013 was the peak period for videogames. But of course it was gradual. But the graphical difference from 07-13 was huge, 2013 games still look modern.As for GPUs, the decline was similar, in 2012 we were still in the "old world" so to speak.Flagship was $500, there was the dual GPU cards that were more, but there was also SLI/xfire so you could run two lower end GPUs.Nvidia 700 and 900 series weren't great (there was no real 800 series), but they stopped doing x2 cards, killing SLI, moving toward larger, more expensive cards. And lets not forget the 970 3.5gb vram scam.Then in 2016 amd launched the 480, nvidia the 1060 and of course 1080(ti), all remembered fondly and still usable today, but it was the start of AMD having to give up the high end and nvidia just milking it.But it's perhaps in 2018 where things truly went to shit as nvidia launched proprietary RTX, where raytracing is way too slow to do even to this day, DLSS and framegen coming as a result. Also during this time it was almost impossible to get a GPU near MSRP due to crypto.>>108829530 while physX was a scheme by nvidia to avoid competition it was very niche and kinda cool still.>>108829576>>108827999yeah userbenchmark is not a serious site, don't use it and don't post it. But in this case it's probably not that far off because he mostly loves intel.
2014 GG doubling down on the DEIvershitty agendathe way-too-early push for the 4Gay resolution meme started around then, too, I believe
Nothing to do with GPU or hardware. It's all the shitty console games that got ported to PC around 2012 and everyone and their dogs told the ps360 faggots to come to PC.
>>108827200It started when I finally bought a shiny new PC so that I could play all the new releases, thinking we'd keep getting good games. Sorry anons, I flunked it for us all.
>>108829572I've always used AMD and never had any of the driver problems I would see people claim online. That said I dont buy anything at launch so maybe thats why.
>>108827200I wonder if we'll ever get new graphics cards. Looks like Nvidia quite enjoys the current situations and the market gives them zero reasons to develop new products.
>>108829749I would argue that the GTX Titan was the beginning of the end. It really proved to Nvidia: Manchildren have nothing else to spend money on; they would pay any price for a downgraded Quadro with DirectX support.
>>108830630I've had more nJudea cards shit themselves right after the one-year manufacturer warranty than AMD cards. I switched over to AMD about 18 years ago and never looked back. now on Linux, Mesa is godly with my setups.
It actually started around 2002 when the relative success of the Xbox demonstrated to developers that they could make titles for consoles first and then port them to Windows later as an afterthought. Entire genres that worked best on a desktop PC such as city builders and RTSes were slowly decimated in the aftermath.
>>108830694Manchildren can only use mom's credit card up to a $5000 daily limit. Enterprise is where the real margins are for computer hardware, ever since the IBM days.
>>108829909>>108829576>nooo you can't use this benchmark because it isn't from my favorite eceleb
>>108827200early 2000's
>>10882720010 years ago when 10 series cards shipped
>>108827200>more sales than ever for both OEM systems and PC parts>muh dead desktopWhen you've beaten the dead horse so long that an entire horse breeding operation has set up shop around you...
Nvidia GPUs represent a major U.S. national security concern because they power the advanced AI models and military simulation capabilities used by China. While the U.S. government has restricted exports to curb this, and Chinese regulators have investigated potential "backdoors" to restrict them, the high demand has fueled a significant illicit smuggling market. www.thefai.org +4Key Security Risks and Developments (2025-2026):Military and AI Advancements: The U.S. restricts advanced AI chips (like H100, H200) because they are vital to Chinese military modernization and AI development.Smuggling Networks: Authorities have uncovered major operations, including a case involving ~400 A100 GPUs and another involving $160 million in H100/H200 chips smuggled to China.Backdoor Concerns: China's cyberspace watchdog probed NVIDIA over concerns that its specially designed H20 chips could have "remote shutdown" features or backdoors allowing U.S. surveillance, which NVIDIA denies.
>>108827961My teenage crush
>>108828089that’s because consumers are retarded the 5060 is over 3 times faster in raster alone
>>108831595nothing to do with eceleb, everything to do with it being a joke website run by intel nvidia marketers that in 2026 still do not have a DX11 or DX12 test, and punish multicore performance.
>>108832491>it's a joke because it doesn't put amd on a pedastal and make them look better than everyone elseFuck off nicotroon. You've already shit up /pcbg/ enough, you don't need to ruin the rest of the board.
>>108827200When it became the platform for console ports
>>108827200There's always been ups and downs but this time I don't think there's a way outThere's simply an elimination of an entire market, at least the regular joe consumer side of it. Many companies will die. This market will shrink to nothing. Buy what you can now.
Modern Unity and Unreal ended the gatekeeping era of development, with it came bloat and a flood of low effort garbage games that people buy, no matter how unfinished. Review sites used to colluded with eachother and publishers to give high ratings to shit games so people would buy them, it still took effort to make something look like it was worth buying, but now you have all manner of mobile tier games flooding Steam.
>>108832794>but now you have all manner of mobile tier games flooding Steamyeah, this the end right hereother shit people mention can be fixed, but there's no coming back from a flood of mobile slop
>>108827200For me in 2008..
>>108827200When PC games became xbox ports. So like mid 2000s. Remember Deus Ex 2 and Thief 3?
>>108831595>>108832491>>108832661Hello "CPUpro"! No one but you mentioned ecelebs. You're becoming a lolcow, you're basically AMD marketing at this point.For anyone else, userbenchmark is widely disparaged by pretty much everyone, because of the frankly deranged fanboyism. The intel subreddit was actually among the first to ban him. He has 1.5 stars on trustpilot.Userbenchmark came out of nowhere, totally anonymous, with a fairly comprehensive test application, a database and most importantly very competent SEO. The total anonymity for something that should be so uncontroversial is suspicious, and it was intel-biased from the start with their core weighting and using the intel compiler.Of course it could have been sponsored by intel but it seems unlikely. More likely it was a small investor group, buying intel and shorting amd perhaps. Just like there is (and this is not a secret) investor groups that will find and advertise vulnerabilities in order to short stocks.>in 2026 still do not have a DX11 or DX12 testYou would think that they would add that, and maybe a raytracing test too. Unless...I think something happened to userbenchmark around 2018-2019. Before that it acted somewhat professional. Like maybe the serious funding guy left, or the programmer, and now now it's only the fanboy guy left. Or it could have been just him the whole time and the stress broke him, triggered a psychotic break.
