Do you really need anything more than an 5800X3D or 5950X? AM4 is goated.
>>108827255yes
>>108827255Yes, I opted for the 5700X because it's faster
>>108827255Not only are the newer generations much faster in single core, a 6 core Zen 4 is as fast as an 8 core Zen 3 in multithreaded applications, that's a pretty significant upgrade. And even regular non X3D CPUs on AM5 match the first generation AM4 X3D in most games thanks to the faster DDR5 RAM. If you already have a decent AM4 platform there's no point upgrading now considering the prices, but let's not pretend like there hasn't been any progress.
>>108827386based rational Chito
>>108827255Love my am4 machine desu, been using it for like last decade.My next machine is Mac Studio though
>>108827255redditurd cope
>>1088272555950X is too expensive to justify at $400 right now, you're paying for two 5800X's glued together I would rather just buy Intel at that point if I need to stick with DDR4
im still waiting on those 9950x3d2 cinebench scores.
>>108827977it scores like a 16 core zen 5. it's mostly dependent on the power limit you chose.
>>108827255I'm doing just fine with an FX8350
>>108827994nono i want to see anon's specifically.
>>108828010You could have sold it when it was still worth something, upgraded to an R5 1600(AF maybe), had a better PC for the past 7 years, and saved money on electricity.
>>108827386you did not answer op's question. all you did was barge in with your own narrative.
>>108828010very based I still use a phenom ii
>>108828368I don't understand why people are proud of things like this. It actually cost you more in the long run and you tortured yourself with a slow computer on top of that, are you a masochist?
>>108828515It's not a slow computer
>>108827255I'm still on a 5600. I'm fine, I don't need more.
>>108827255yes.9800x3d minimum for 1440p144.5800x3d can't keep up
I'm on a 2600 and some low power Haswell, but I'm thinking to max out both those sockets.
>>108828630Yes it is, I have a Phenom II X4 PC too that I keep for old games, it's way too slow to use comfortably.
im still rocking my i7 3770 on my mint 21.1
>>108827255Only makes sense to go AM4 these days if you can't stomach DDR5 prices (fair, but you're poor). The performance to price outside of the RAM discrepancy is wide enough that choosing to kneecap yourself because "muh ol' reliable" is retarded. AM5/LGA 1851 chips are not appreciably more expensive than AM4/11th 12th 13th 14th gen Intel except for saving literal dollars at a time.If you had the board already and were just upgrading as you go or whateve the fuck, then AM4 is great beans per toot, but holy shit I do not recommend you build one from scratch today.>Do you really need anything more than an 5800X3D or 5950X? Yes.>>108828671>9800x3d minimum for 1440p144.Are you faggots unable to understand that getting a 7500F and using that extra dough to go from a 3070 to a 3080 or whatever is going to be a big net increase in FPS over spending 4x on your CPU? If you're doing non-gaming stuff then sure but why are you buying an X3D chip then?
>>108827966>you're paying for two 5800X's glued togetherIs this supposed to actually mean something or are you just being autistic
>>108828854I'd say a 2700k is about as old as one should reasonably use these days, anything slower or older and you're just torturing yourself for no reason but stubbornness.
>>108828630phenom II guzzle more power than FXs while being as slow as q6600s
>>108828515Another Phenom II fag here. I'm not proud of it, it's just something that still works for me. I have a decent GPU in it and no interest in the latest AAA games. For most tasks, it's fine. I do some data analytics work, so that suffers, but for a large dataset that I spent a couple of days setting up, it's a matter of it taking two hours to complete instead of 20-30 minutes. If it's vector shit I can push off onto the GPU, then it doesn't matter at all. Given the current prices even for DDR4 level systems, I'll stick it out with my 1065T a while longer.
>>108828938which board do you have, maybe you can drop in an fx
>>108828928Yeah, I'll admit it keeps my room a bit toasty. But in the big scheme of things, it's a tiny part of my monthly electric bill, so it doesn't matter.
>>108827255wdym? 9800x3d isnt even enough for my 360hz monitor. 10800x3d probably will just fall short by a hair and the 11800x3d should be perfect
>>108828948It's an old Gigabyte GA-770T-USB3. Not much I can do with it so I'm waiting until prices get rational again or I get a sudden windfall of money. Even then, I'm not looking to move higher than a 5700X. For the stuff I do, it's just not all that important to be near the top of performance.
>>108828975Hell yeah I love/hate gigabyte
>>108827255I upgraded to am5 last year because I wanted a lot of cheap ram (lol) for my minecraft server (lmao even)now chilling at 96gb for the next decade
>>108828948If you bump the CPU-NB multiplier up a bit then the phenom will be just as fast. The only reason to go that route would be for instruction set support but it's a stupid idea when AM4 is so cheap.
>>108828996Really can't complain about it. I built this system in 2010, so that motherboard is old enough to fuck and drive a car. >>108829042Nice timing. I was tempted last year to build a monster rig with 128GB to pick up some specialized GIS work but ended up pussying out. Now the contract isn't worth the cost to build something like that.
>>108828361Are you illiterate? Saying AM4 is all you need is cope, but an understandable cope given the price of DDR5 right now.
>>108829084again, you have not addressed op's point.do you need me to spell out the why for you like you're a little baby?
>>108829084Or maybe you're coping about wasting money?
>>108829077I havent yet seen a motherboard that fucks but it might be in the future
>>108829092>hurrr durr you need to literally spell out yes or no for me to understand otherwise you're just dodging the questionAutistic or just retarded?>>108829097Why would it be a waste of money if you got into AM4 back in 2017-2018 then upgraded in 2025?
>>108829168aww widdle baby wants his spoonfeeding. you haven't said anything about how am5's marginal improvements net a real, tangible, palpable benefit to people like op.
>>108827255nobut i have a 9800x3d anyway
>>108828895>I'd say a 2700k is about as old as one should reasonably use these daysNo, it'd be i7-2600. It's just a few % slower than a i7-3770k.In fact, even going from an i7-2600 to a i7-7700 would not be a significant upgrade. Intel really stagnated in those years.It's not until i7-8700 (Coffee Lake) where you see a noticeable boost from i7-2600 in both ST and MT performance.
>>108829179>you have to explain to me why a faster CPU is better than a slower one (on an image board for computer enthusiasts no less), so I can tell you why I personally don't care since the only thing I use my PC is shitpostingwew lad
>Phenom II X6>R5-2600>R7-5700G & R5-5600XAll are still in service and working a-rightThe X6 is used as a retro machine or last backup
>>108827255Their software is ass
should i try to sell my current 5800X and get an X3D?i can probably get a used one for cheap, dont know if itll make a huge difference in gaming doe
>>108829245No. First off it's slower and secondly it's like $750 used.
>>108829240 (me)As OP says, it's really goated, do need for anything more
>>108827966I bought one for $389 3 years ago as an upgrade from 3600 and I've probably made the cost back just from mining xmr in the winter lol. You missed your chance.
>>108829237you haven't addressed op's tongue in cheek hot take, which is still very true for where it applies. you're also not doing anything substantial with your cpu.Do you really need anything more than an 5800X3D or 5950X?
>>108829167If you ever feel the desire to, pic related is the right movie.
>>108829237Do you think a fighter jet is better for getting to the grocery store just because it's faster?
>>108829268>Do you really need anything more than an 5800X3D or 5950X?I don't know how many times and ways I have to say it but yes I do.In any case you're trying to draw attention away from the absurdity of OPs post which can be condensed to: >I can't afford anything better than what I currently own, so anything newer/faster is a waste of moneyIt's a nonsense position, a cope to help people feel better about the current market and that they missed out on their chance to upgrade.But those who jumped to AM5 before RAM prices soared are feeling pretty good about themselves right now I can tell you that much.If OP asked whether there's a point in upgrading from Zen 4 to Zen 5, you could make a reasonable argument that it's not worth it for 99% of people, except maybe those keen on emulating PS3 games that would benefit from the better AVX512 implementation.
>>108829325my bad for assuming you're arguing from anything but a bad faith sunk cost position, I guess. what compelled you to post cope in a 2700k/4790k thread?
>>108828938>>108828975>Gigabyte GA-770T-USB3>1065TJust get an LGA1150 mobo and an i7-4770(S)(K) or E3-1245 V3 off ebay.Twice as fast your 1065T in both ST and MT.i7-2600 / i7-2700(K) / i7-3770(S)(K) would also be twice as fast but they don't have AVX2.
>>108829359at this point that's a side grade at best
>>108827255>5800X3Dnot enough cores>5950Xnot enough single-thread or gaming performanceso yeah i need more
>>108829359So far Blender is the only software I've tried that couldn't run due to missing instructions in the Phenom but it's not something that I must use. At some point I'll move on to something AM4. Hopefully the PC world will be a bit more sane by then but who knows where all this shit is headed.
>>108827265based 5700X brotherwe'll be eating goodly for another 20 years
The only reason I don't want to switch to AM5 is because DDR5 seems gay and unstable.
>>108827255I'm keeping my AM4 Rig because I got an 5800XT (129$) and 32GB 3200Mhz (90$) right before the crysis.No need to upgrade for me.I'd have changed platforms at the time, if I haven’t chosen to spend less and go for a smaller upgrade. Nowadays it's just not worth it.
>>108830633just use an older version of blender
>>108830758NiceYou can set your ram to 3600 for free if you want
I fell for the 5900X trap back in the day. Fucking rerelease the 5800X3D already AMD!!
>>108828671Just use frame generation. A bored GPU is the only use case for it.
>>108827255I had a chance to get a 128GB RAM, 5950X, RTX3090 machine with decent storage. For like $1200. It was before that bullshit with RAM, VRAM and SSD prices happened.Now that I'm thinking about it, maybe I never actually needed it that much. Although it was a nice oportunity, same as my 256GB ECC RAM that I actually aquired for cheap.
>>108827255Eh, not really. 5900XT/5950X covers all heavy workloads well enough. If you're chasing e-peen fps in gaming, you should kill yourself.
>>108827255>AM4 is goated.Indeed.I'm still happy with my 5950X.
yes, I needed the AVX512. 9950X3D was such a huge upgrade from the 3900X i had before its not even close.
>>108832575>AVX512Does nothing
>>108827255yes, i want my core processor to be very fastlesser compile times, better for simulation games, etc
>>108833911>thing "does nothing">thing objectively does thingsrpcs3
>>108827255>Do you really need anything more than an 5800X3DMe personally? No, but it have a 9800x3d anyway.
>>108834164>gayming
>>108827255I sold my 5800X3D setup and bought a 9600X back in November. It was a massive performance boost for emulation (2x or more) and gayming performance is on par. The 5800X3D is kinda low-end now for anything except AAA gayming.
>>108829297Do you think you analogy doesn’t fucking work because it’s not even comparable, processors don’t work like fucking jets, there’s no fast processor airspace where regular processors can’t go, and no regular processor road where fast processors can’t go. They all operate along the same plane, and newer processors are empirically better than old ones. Only a terminally poor jeet could come up with this argument. >uhh you wouldn’t take da fighter jet to da supermarket therefore old = good!A more apt analogy would be everyone is driving their cars while you’re bellycrawling like the snake you are.
>>108827255I'm gonna keep my 3700X basically forever. Computing literally peaked, there's nothing useful warranting more compute power. The only shit worth expanding are RAM which I currently have 80GB of, and maybe GPU which I don't care about.I'm entering my boomer phase of life and I already retired my PC to become an HTPC. I will eventually switch to a laptop to become the HTPC and turn the old PC into a server. I know there are mini PCs and NUCs and what not, but I prefer a laptop since you can take it with you to trips.
>>108835443be quiet you goalpost shifting retard, just because you're poor doesn't mean you need to shit up threads with your fucking copefest
Yes. I want a machine to play games for 10 years before it gets retired by whoever I gave it to 5 years prior.
>>108835445right? I had the same exact experience going from 5700X3D to 9700X, night and day difference in performance and it runs cooler too.
>>108835460Right, so what you're saying is you'd run a threadripper to run chrome if you could.
>>1088358043400G here with a low budget portable Steam PC build. Perfect for a media PC and some gaming while away from my home desktop. With Linux it doesn't even remotely feel sluggish. But I am still itching for an 5700X or 5800X but rules say only used parts in this build.
>>108827255Not right now, no. And you probably won't til ~2030.
