I prefer working drivers and codecs out of the box.
I prefer not beta testing for free.
I prefer having a working version of KDE.

>>108830154
I think you deserve better than Fedora.

>>108830154
Yeah I need less, so I installed Gentoo

>>108830168(me)
Also.
I prefer having AI preinstalled.

>>108830178
Like?

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>>108830154
I agree, actually, I don't think I need that much.

>>108830223
SUSE

>>108830168
>I prefer not beta testing for free.
>I prefer having a working version of KDE.
pick one

>no XLibre support ever
I need A LOT more than (((this)))

>>108830183
>doesn't want AI
>uses Fedora
Oh man...
>>108830252
Of all the distros with KDE I've used, only Fedora's has krashed on me.

>>108830154
There’s a new ‘reboot required’ security update every time you look at it.

dnf is fucking garbage. easily the slowest package manager I remember using.

>>108830168
>I prefer working drivers and codecs out of the box.
Fucking retard can't figure out how to install software lol

>>108830168
>a working version of KDE.
*krashes*

>>108830154
>Voluntarily choosing to use SELinux
Do people really?

>>108830154
>You don't need more than this
True, Fedora is a great distro. I'm 100% serious and I know Arch/Debian anons usually shit on FEDora, but it's such a fine distro.
>strict free software policy
>cracked security team behind it, SELinux (can't even configure it myself lelelel)
>still VERY community driven (we just voted to keep 32bit libs in favor of gayming
>VERY reliable, yet still VERY recent software
>IF a company supports Linux, they almost always offer a .deb and .rpm.
>Peak KDE Plasma and GNOME spins.
>Very large + recent repository, even compared to arch (without AUR)

I just think the Logo is fucking ugly, the name is cringe... but other than that: Fedora is FINE! Okay and the codec fuckery, because of the strict FOSS philosophy and legality kinda sucks, but I get it... and rpmfusion dot org has a detailed guide on how to enable all 3rd party codecs. I just feel safe on Fedora. Even the fucking copy fail shit was patched ASAP. It took Debian 14 DAYS! to patch copy fail... just 2 days ago.

>>108830977
Yeah ngl I removed Fedora for that reason and dumbass SELinux

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>>108832522

>>108832555
pufferfish wit da big ass lip

>>108832522
>took Debian 14 DAYS! to patch copy fail
How long did it take Ubuntu?

>>108832589
A week

>>108830154
Why would I want this trash? I never wanted to be Red Hat's beta tester. Fuck off.

>>108830168
>working drivers and codecs out of the box
>WAHHH I DONT WANT TO TYPE 3 LINES INTO THE TERMINAL WAHHHH
I legitimately dont understand the problem. Its literally
sudo dnf install -y \
https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-$(rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm

sudo dnf install -y \
https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-$(rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm

sudo dnf install rpmfusion-free-appstream-data rpmfusion-nonfree-appstream-data

and then you update. And thats it. All of your codecs and drivers will then work. How fucking retarded do you have to be to not be able to copy paste this into a terminal?

>>108832609
Embarrassing. I think that means RHEL/Fedora are the only serious game in town. Now the only question to resolve is whether to commit to KDE or GNOME.

>>108830977
>xe doesn't know about dnf5

>>108832630
>I think that means RHEL/Fedora are the only serious game in town.
How about BSD? Like OpenBSD is a fucking monster

>>108832653
nta but isn't OpenBSD meant for things like routers?

>>108832630
KDE is on a good track atm. They just received over a million $ / €. KDE on Fedora 44 is solid and I didn't experience any *krashes*.

>>108832679
theo is crying now dude It supports DE for default

>>108832683
And are they going to spend that on more trips to India, or toss it out to ‘black girls code’ or some other fruitless woke cause? I should like KDE because I like Windows, but it always feels like the death of a thousand cuts.

>>108832832
It's earmarked for specific things euro countries want for their government computers iirc

>>108830168
doesn't 44 now come with RPMfusion if you enable third-party repos? it installed media codecs on the first update and I haven't had an issue since.

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>>108832522
>almost always
>but other than that
>Okay and the codec fuckery
Not to mention the potential for conflict if you enable both RPMFusion and Terra, unlike Debian's massive monorepo that includes patent-encumbered and non-free software.
>It took Debian 14 DAYS
Take a look at how long it took Fedora to patch Firefox compared to Sid in the last month. Not to mention the additional lag on patching it in Fedora 43, which is still officially supported.
Fedora is a very good distro, but you might be sugarcoating it a bit.

>>108830154
>Forced systemd
>Forced wayland
>Forced telemetry
>Soon to be forced gnome
Lol no.

>>108833540
>best init
>best display server
>[headcanon]
>best DE
sounds good

FEDdora will probably be the very first linux distro to jump onboard with os level age verification

>>108833552
Fagdora isn't Linux.
Since you're an obvious NPC who doesn't know what sudo even does, let me educated you. Real Linux.. choose one of the following if you want to be considered a real Linux user.
>Void
>Artix
>LFS
>Gentoo
>Devuan
>Slackware

>>108833560
>chimps out
>immediately starts naming meme distros
idk man have fun, some of us have shit to do

>>108833572
Normal sheep NPC thinks that list are memes.
Lol LMAO LMFAO ROFLMAO

>schizo reaction posted on cooldown
>meme distros
>ESL
probably an xlibre shill too
that was your last (You) though, sorry bud

>>108833572
is LFS a meme? i was thinking about trying to set it up in a vm as a learning experience

>>108833595
That's the opinion of a normie NPC who just started using "Linux" 3 months ago. Likely it hasn't even used the terminal more than 3 times.

>>108833560
Gentoo and Slackware I would not use, but I can understand why you would advocate for them. The remaining suggestions however are pure memery.

>>108833540
>Soon to be forced gnome
Redpill me on this

>>108833595
it's great for learning, yes. that's pretty much what it's made for. nobody actually uses it for daily driving, despite what the other screeching jeet would want you to believe.

>>108833595
LFS exists for the express purpose of being a learning exercise. There's no reason to actually use the setup you make with it.

>>108832840
Isn’t KDE really jeeted though?

>>108833503
>you might be sugarcoating it a bit.
Yep, I am... don't get me wrong, I still think most of the mainstream distros are alright (Arch, Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, openSUSE)

>>108833653
most actual KDE contributors are euros

>>108833560
Hello /g/nu + linux oldfag. Your real distro recommendation sounds horrible, where is:
>systemd
>flatpak
>wayland

>>108833653
started in germany, headquarters in germany, recently founded in germany, most conventions in germany.

But yes, there are A LOT of jeet contributers and orgs outside of evropa. Most people think GNOME is full of jeets n troons, but just compare pictures of devs. also MOST distros and desktops are A) GNOME first or B) Use the GTK (toolkit)
>Ubuntu (GNOME)
>Fedora Workstation (GNOME)
>Linux Mint (Cinnamon / XFCE / Mate) GTK
>Debian (Debian Desktop option) GNOME
>Ubuntu Pro, RHEL, SLES (GNOME)
>Flatpak GNOME / Libadwaita / GTK

Just KDE is qt, sure it's a kool desktop, but I feel like most apps are written in the gimp tool kit GTK lang... it honestly makes sense, because people mainly develop for ubuntu. Even if you ownload 3rd party apps like proton vpn, it's fucking GTK

Everything on KDE will look alien. But the good thing: KDE has so many apps and you can live with mostly qt apps.

>>108830168
>I prefer having a working version of KDE.
kek
good one anon

>>108830154
I'm lazy and new to Linux so I run Nobara, but it's sold me on Fedora.

>>108830154
This but unironically, it just werks
Too bad the logo and the name are so fucking stupid though, generational fumble there, I'm slightly embarrassed to tell normie friends I use "Fedora"
>but le codecs
3 lines on the terminal and it's done

>>108830154
Holy shit man it is just a distro.
What's a distro? Just linux kernel and some choice of userspace tools packaged, and a package manager. What the fuck is wrong with you that you keep opening one thread after another about it as if it is a soccer team. Eat shit and die. You're a time sink.

>>108834187
Imagine this: Distros are children and the important part of a child (Distro) are the Parents (Maintainers). We need stability, security, money. Some parents are really bad people.

You have to take care of your kids, make sure they learn new things, always let the doctors see your child, try new stuff.

Arch is a kid... always trying out new shit, but hes moving a lot and some things are unstable..

>>108833636
just red hat things

they're shipping AI slop out of the box one of their long term maintainers already quit because of it

>>108834436
I really do not understand the anti-AI sentiment. It's proven itself with the recent open source bugs found this month alone.

>>108830154
I'd tend to agree if it had a different name, I can't tell my homies I use FEDORA come on

>>108833552
>best init
lol, lmao even
>best display server
lol, lmao even
>[headcanon]
a fedora is a jewish hat, so it's by definition true
>best DE
lol, lmao even

>>108834446
AI companies are profiting the most out of GPL licensed software it's the same cuck argument with BSD are you willing to work for free so companies can steal your shit and profit without giving anything back?
Open source distros shipping AI tools are not that different from Sony or Apple stealing BSD cuck license code and donating 50 bucks back

>>108834446
finding bugs (after vetted for no hallucination) is one thing
AI slopping the source code is entirely different, just look at jeetdowns11

>>108830168
>codecs out of the box
Of all things, what a dumb hill to die on.

>>108834496
>I want my machine to be fully working out of the box
This is not a dumb hill at all.

>>108834517
Name a modern device that works immediately out of box without needing to configure or tinker.

>>108834538
Pretty much all of them. I dont need to add a non-factory repository to get working video playback on an ipad. Come on, anon.

>>108833174
Take a look at what that actually configures. It's not the same as doing the installation and multimedia guides on RPMFusion website.

>>108834468
>Open source distros shipping AI tools
You don’t have to use them…, but we all know you’re going to run Claude anyways.

>>108834470
The problems of Win11 were created without AI, just pure jeetdom and lacking direction. It’s also easier to hide crappy code when no one can see it. With Fedora, it’s all going to be in the open.

>>108834590
jeetdom was enabled by AI

>>108830154
its acceptable if you dont know anything about unixlike operating systems. i think the first linux distribution i was able to get working nicely on my shitty pc when i was 10 was fedora. ubuntu with unity couldnt even initialize with my gpu at the time and i had been using slackware without an x server.
i use gentoo on things i personally interact with, rhel/rocky on hypervisors, openbsd on routers, alpine in vms that aren't openbsd.

but, these days i wouldn't put fedora on anything i care about.

>>108834617
No, it was enabled by a desire to suppress wages. If anything, AI might help the jeets. AI+Jeet is better than a jeet alone, probably. In the hands of decent programmers, AI should be a force multiplier.

>>108834640
>its acceptable if you dont know anything about unixlike operating systems.
Positioning yourself as some sort of elite.
>btw, I was only 10
Should I clap?
>but, these days i wouldn't put fedora on anything i care about.
Vague posting without any elaboration. A completely useless post, 2/10.

>>108834670
wage suppression caused jeetdom but AI enabled it to the extent it has spread

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>>108830168
>I prefer not beta testing for free.
>uses KDE

>>108834681
happiest and most loved poster in israel.
>Positioning yourself as some sort of elite.
no, i just think it's bad. It used to be pretty nice to use way before systemd but what is left to say about fedora? it uses systemd, which is a plague full of holes that directly conflicts with common sense KISS philosophies. Nothing but a testing ground for poetteringware. Major dependencies on redhat for some things. Bloated piece of shit. It's the sort of thing you give a child or a stupid person to learn to use an operating system that doesn't send their linux iso collection to tel aviv.
>Should I clap?
when was the last time someone hugged you in real life?
>Vague posting without any elaboration. A completely useless post, 2/10.
I'm afraid you might have a serious injury or mental defect.

>>108834729
True.
KDE drops support immediately upon release of the next version.
GNOME supports two major versions at once.

>>108834751
Holy schizo. Anyways reread your own post to see why I wrote that. Completely irrelevant to the topic, you didn’t explain yourself and just started dispensing life history no one cares about.

>>108833553
SystemD already did. Better install gentoo.

>>108830168
Anon, the developers of KDE recommended against using it on stable distros because it's constantly in a state of development and bugfixes. You are in a state of eternal bug-testing if you use it. I do like KDE (wish we could change the amount of thumbnail previews on folder icons) but you have to know what you're getting into with it.

>>108834751
>poster in israel.
Jews cannot post on the Shabbat.

>>108834768
>gentoo
not good enough because it doesn't have built in mechanisms against systemd metastasization, but devuan does
>slow release cycle
just use ceres lmao

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>>108830154
>systemd
>policykit
>packagekit
>wayland
>pipewire
>gnome
>selinux
You're right, i need way less.

>>108834793
Looks like our best bet is /g/OS. I have some logo ideas.

>>108834795
incorrigibly unemployable.

>>108830154
It's a good "in-between" of something like Arch and Ubuntu. Stable enough to be daily ran but also not bleeding edge and risky. The only thing I dislike like others mentioned is the codec stuff. I don't think a distro should force its users to paste things into the command line, that scares a lot of people away. Other than that it also runs the best vanilla GNOME experience. KDE has improved a ton since 6.6 and is just set and forget if you're not obsessed with customization. No, it hasn't krashed.
I also love DNF, the new DNF5 is much faster.
Overall, it gets an 8/10

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>>108834806
What i have to use at work has no bearing with what i choose to run for myself, pay me enough and i may even use anything in between punch card calculator and windows 11

they should make their logo look less like facebook desu

>>108835137
While they're at it, they should also change their name to be less reddit

>>108830154
the fact that a fedora install doesnt come with snapshots enabled in 2026 is emberessing

>>108834850
I tried using GNOME for 30 minutes, and the app switcher animation made me want to shoot myself. The “Dash to Panel” extension helps a bit, but I’m not convinced. My Win11 alternative will probably end up being KDE, even though it’s pretty ugly.

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>>108830154
>You don't need more than this
Indeed, which is why I use less.

>>108833540
>forced gnome
Source?

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>>108830168
just use bazzite

>>108830168
>I prefer proprietary codecs
>I prefer to think I am not beta testing
>I prefer an older version of KDE (because a KDE has never had a working version, ever)

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Why people keep posting the old logo?

>>108837894
No real Linux user would touch that normal cattle dogshit

>>108838041
Any distro with systemd is normiecattle dogshit

>>108838171
I agree 100%

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>>108838033
WE *CHADS* DO NOT CARE ABOUT THAT TINY STUFFS

>>108839157
You CHUDS send more telemetry to Red Hat than Samsung users send to South Korea.
Morons.

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>>108839329
whoopsies!

>>108839365
>Retard thinks clicking a button makes it so
LMAO
What iPhone do you have, btw?

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>>108839543
I'm sure you can point to actual code then? You sounds confident.
>iPhone
Nice strawman. Also you're spamming, ESL.

>>108839639
>iPhoje
>seething so hard he's fat-fingering
kek'd

>>108839655
Probably an xlibre cuck, they always show up to these threads acting the same childish way.

>>108833593
>>108839661
>show up to these threads acting the same childish way
hmmmm, yes, I see