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I'm thinking of getting into Linux but I'm uncertain
Does Linux work on an Nvidia 4080 and Intel i9 13th gen?
I played pirated and cracked games and don't use Steam. Is there an alternative program to optimize games so they can work?
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>>108830807
>Does Linux work on an Nvidia 4080 and Intel i9 13th gen?
DX 12 has a 20% performance hit and Nvidia can be kind of shaky, but yes I use a 3080 ti and it works fine.
>I played pirated and cracked games and don't use Steam. Is there an alternative program to optimize games so they can work?
I don't know. Last time I checked years ago pirates were distributing games as flatpaks.
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>>108830828
Does it handle performance heavy games?
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>>108830807
>Does Linux work on an Nvidia 4080 and Intel i9 13th gen?
Yes
>I played pirated and cracked games and don't use Steam. Is there an alternative program to optimize games so they can work?
Yes, wine with Proton-GE, you can use a GUI for wine like Lutris or Bottles. I don't have many Steam games and play cracked games just fine
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>>108830807
yep, all that shit works. you'll need to learn WINE, Proton, and umu or just go with something like Lutris to start out.
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>>108830807
nvidia loses a little performance on linux unlike normal gpus
you can use any umu frontend like faugus launcher, lutris etc
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>>108830845
When you say learn, do you mean configure the settings once and just launch games from then on or do you mean something else?
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>>108830807
>I played pirated and cracked games and don't use Steam. Is there an alternative program to optimize games so they can work?
https://github.com/Open-Wine-Components/umu-launcher
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>>108830843
Should be very comperable given available libraries to what you'd get with windows. Only issue I see for you is that you don't use Steam. You'll have to probably tinker if you do it that way, but I'd imagine there's something out there related to wine.
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>>108830807
Display Stream Compression is buggy on some monitor setups, but you'll only run into that if your resolution, refresh rate, or HDR require DSC. Also, if you want to play Android games, Waydroid doesn't support hardware acceleration on Nvidia GPUs. There's also a performance hit on DX12 games I personally didn't notice it unless I looked up benchmarks. In my opinion its fine but if you have the funds get an AMD GPU for that first class experience.
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>>108830807
>Does Linux work on an Nvidia 4080 and Intel i9 13th gen?
If it can even run on an RTX 3080 and a Ryzen 5800X3D, it absolutely can with a 4080 and i9.
You will be fine.
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>>108831417
I'm on a laptop, actually. I have no issues running modern games on high settings. Does Linux handle laptops well?
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>>108831437
>Does Linux handle laptops well?
From my understanding it depends but other anons can correct me if I'm wrong. All the common parts like your CPU or GPU are p much guaranteed to work. Where it gets iffy is with power management on some laptops or the more boutique parts like IR cameras, fingerprint scanners, some Wi-Fi modules, etc
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>>108831437
>>108831484
What you can do is boot up a live iso and test it on your laptop to see before committing to an install
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>>108831496
That's the thing. When CachyOS was about a few months old, I did a dual boot and tried to test it. I definitely loved it more than Mint and Ubuntu, since I'm clueless about Linux and CachyOS came with drivers pre-installed. But when I tried to run games, at the time, I only had one heavy demanding game and that was Resonance of Fate. It ran on 27 FPS, despite someone showing me a screencap running the game at max FPS despite having a lower series Nvidia. At the time, I assumed the OS was new, buggy, and I was an isolated case. But now, it's been out for much longer and I want to give it a second try
In your experience, does dual boot run heavy demanding games worse than if I completely overwrite drive C?
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>>108831524
were the games you were playing on an NTFS drive or partition?
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>>108831590
I believe it was a partition. I just shrunk my drive to make some unallocated space and installed CachyOS on it
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>>108831617
If your games were installed on the partition where Windows resides, that may have been the issue. Proton doesn't always play nice with NTFS drives or partitions. I have heard you can get it working by symlinking the compatdata folder, but the safe bet is to install your games onto a drive or partition using a Linux-native filesystem, such as ext4.

Look at it like this, I wouldn't expect Windows to work with a btrfs formatted drive without issues since it is non-native. The same idea applies to Linux with NTFS.
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>>108831659
>The same idea applies to Linux with NTFS.
ntfs is native on linux, you have native drivers
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>>108831692
The driver is sure but NTFS itself is not native to Linux you shouldn't be trying to do anything serious on an NTFS drive
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>>108831682
My only guess atp would be maybe the game was running on the iGPU and not the discrete GPU
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>>108831753
dual booting has no affect on game performance. if you get bad performance you setup kmd/umd wrong.
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>>108831753
No there shouldn't be any performance gap between dual booting and only running linux, assuming the games are all running off of the linux partition.
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>>108831802
certain games require additional setup or different proton. for example wuthering waves will die on you unless you use protonge or pso2 ngs will be slow as shit unless you enable casefolding on your partition.
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>>108830807
>Does Linux work on an Nvidia 4080 and Intel i9 13th gen?
Yes, your hardware is fully supported.
>I played pirated and cracked games and don't use Steam. Is there an alternative program to optimize games so they can work?
Yes, I recommend Faugus Launcher. You can simply install repacks by right clicking the setup.exe and "add to faugus" or just add the game.exe from steamrip to faugus.

Heroic is good for official games like Epic Games and GOG. I recommend Faugus and Bottles for piracy.
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>>108830807
yes but not kde, use cinnamon
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NVIDIA GPUs work just fine on Linux but some minor thing will inevitably piss you off. Wayland, secure boot not working (if you use it) etc.
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>>108832200
Heroic is good for piracy too nigga what you on about
and it's the most normie friendly
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Sorry for the delay. I just dual booted the OS and about to do some tests. However, one thing I found to be really annoying already is there is no option for a 3 finger gesture to swap between opened apps. Can someone help me out?
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>>108834955
You are on CachyOS with KDE right? If so then it seems like there is no way to configure that since it is not implemented in KDE but others can correct me if I am wrong. Gnome might work better for touch gestures but that has a very strange workflow that you might dislike.

Also you will most likely encounter other issues that don't have any fix on any Linux distro because a lot of stuff just doesn't work on Linux. That is what people mean when they say "You need to learn Linux". You need to learn that some stuff just doesn't work or performs poorly and that there is no way around that even if you spend hours trying to troubleshoot it. It is mostly about adjusting your expectations and not about some enlightened tech-wizardry.
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>>108835319
That... is really demotivating. I'm so used to the app switch through finger gestures. Is there maybe an app or software I can install to customize touchpad?
Also, I really tried to use Lutris, but I don't seem to be able to. It either crashes, immediately closes, or gets stuck on the launch loop. I did install wine and set it as a runner + Nvidia GPU, but it doesn't work. I can run the exe of the game fine through wine, but the framerate is bad, so I'm hoping it just means I have to launch it through a launcher that optimizes it. Can you help me here?
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>>108835338
I found Touchégg that seems to be able to configure the gestures and Touché to do it graphically. But I have never used it myself so I can't say how well it works but it may be worth a try.

Games usually use Proton to be able to run and not plain Wine. Proton is a Wine fork and made by Valve to run games and it is way more optimized. So there might be a way to switch to proton inside of Lutris. Another option you could try would be to add the game to Steam with "Add a Non-Steam Game" and then set proton as the compatability layer. Steam in general is the best way to run games on Linux.

And another tip I would give you is to use an AI chatbot like ChatGPT to quickly look up info on issues you encounter on Linux. Just give it information on what distro you use and what the problem is and then add "Look it up online" to the end of it so that it actually searches for the information online and doesn't hallucinate the answer. It can be really useful to quickly get an idea on what you could try to fix an issue.
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>>108835495
I have been using ChatGPT for help and it told me to set my runner as Wine. I don't use Steam or have an account for it, I just cracked exe for my games. Is there a launcher that will run games on proton but without needing Steam?
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>>108835585
>>108831183
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>>108835589
Nice. Will give it a shot
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>>108830807
>https://github.com/Open-Wine-Components/umu-launcher
Everything works great. But if you are not technical minded enough I would keep on using Windows and if you want a different experience, install 24H2 IoT LTSC instead...
You can use Umu launcher (which is a command line wrapper for creating Steam runtime environment) and Goldberg Steam emulator cracks and everything works well.
Sometimes if you are using mods, some specific cases can be problematic.
Talks about DX12 having a performance hit have been also fixed recently.
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>>108835643
>>108835589
Switching to Umu was the right move as the games run so much better than when I launched it. Quick question though, does it have a GUI or do I have to run the games through the konsol every time?
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>>108835716
https://github.com/Faugus/faugus-launcher
Graphical interface for UMU-Launcher.
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>>108835767
Neat! Now I just need to find a way to add three finger app switch gesture before committing. That, and showing desktop by sliding three fingers down. You wouldn't happen to know of an app like that to run on CachyOS KDE?
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>>108830807
>Does Linux work on an Nvidia 4080 and Intel i9 13th gen?
Yes, cachy give you option when you download their ISO for NVIDIA
I played pirated and cracked games and don't use Steam. Is there an alternative program to optimize games so they can work?
yes you can use lutris for cracked and repacked games, use bottles or wine-loader for the setup.exe (latest lutris has built-in function to run setup) and then the installation process is literally the same as in windows, you probably want to specify the directory installation otherwise it will be installed on prefix (you can still play it though)
cachy also have meta package specifically for gaming related packages you may want to install it, read their wiki it's pretty straightforward
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One more thing I need to ask, when a fresh Windows is installed, I use SDIO to get all the necessary drivers, so I don't deal with any headaches. When I dual booted CachyOS, I quickly noticed my audio wasn't working, the bluetooth wasn't working, the OS wouldn't mount an external hard drive with my backup files, amongst other things I'm sure I missed, until I installed everything one by one after asking an LLM for an hour
So TL;DR is there an app, site, command line, or anything that'll install all the necessities for me, since it's a fresh installation?
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>>108835716
You should use your own script to launch the games, it's much better in the long run. If you are using some 'gui launcher' you don't have any idea what is happening in the background.
Bare minimum, you need
>WINEPREFIX (your prefix location which you created with umu-run, you can install dependencies with 'umu-run winetricks -q allfonts dotnet40 dotnet48 dotnetdesktop6 dotnetdesktop8 dotnetdesktop9 vcrun2022 d3dcompiler_43 d3dcompiler_47' for example)
>PROTONPATH (your runner path)
I could upload my own launch script, I have working on it for a while. But then again it's just bunch of environment variables.
If you have trouble you could ask AI to generate one for you but please take your time to go through it because they often put out useless and outdated shit and you need to manually refactor the base to suit your own needs.
There's also lot of useless and retarded information out there so if you google and find some 'advice' on plebbit be prepared to know that it is most likely written by some retard who doesn't know anything.
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>>108830828
>I don't know. Last time I checked years ago pirates were distributing games as flatpaks.
I run my hentai games through wine and it just werks, most of the time, as long it doesn't require changing locale
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>>108835827
https://github.com/iberianpig/fusuma
You need to configure a config file to map the gestures you want to use to an action. There are some examples linked there. Make sure to install a Wayland compatible alternative to xdotool.
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>>108836160
Tocuhe and touchgg made me lose my mind for the past hour. I'll check it out once I've cooled down. Thanks though
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>>108836363
Touchegg doesn't seem to work with Wayland so that might be why it didn't work for you. I'm always surprised that even the simplest features like that still have issues on Wayland and only work on X11 (which is pretty much dead at this point). One of the most infuriating things about Linux.
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>>108836664
Does this mean Fusuma won't work?
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>>108837389
Fusuma should work on Wayland.
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>>108837476
Mind if I bother you for two more things?
One being this >>108835871
And the other being, if there's an application that lets me view all the application so I can uninstall it. I downloaded a few things through exe rather than flatpack, but now I want to remove them to install them through sudo but I don't know how. I tried to see if CachyOS has something like control panel, where I can uninstall anything I want, but I haven't found any yet
I installed a lot of bloat and useless stuff because I kept relying on ChatGPT for help but now I want to remove the excessive fat somehow
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>>108837515
>One being this >>108835871
On CachyOS there is chwd (CachyOS Hardware Detection) and it should be preinstalled:
https://github.com/CachyOS/chwd
https://wiki.cachyos.org/features/chwd/chwd/

>if there's an application that lets me view all the application so I can uninstall it
On Arch-based distros like CachyOS there often is no native way to install/uninstall software graphically. The pacman package manager isn't well integrated into KDE Discover or the Gnome Software Center. You can install Octopi as a GUI software manager but it isn't as visually pleasing as the other two.
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>>108837870
>You can install Octopi as a GUI software manager but it isn't as visually pleasing as the other two.
One of the reasons I want to move to Linux is because I don't want excessive junk on my machine, that includes faulty programs and software I don't use. This would be the third time I reset the OS because I installed a bunch of wrong apps, or ones that didn't work, and I have no idea how to remove them
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>>108830807
most things will work. some right out of the box, some need some tinkering. some have performance issues, some run better than on winshart. it's entirely title dependant. is it worth it? if you dont mind some troubleshooting then yeah. otherwise stick with microslop
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I am running the Nvidia build of Bazzite and it's great. My specs are Ryzen 9 5900HX, 6GB RTX 3060A, 16GB DDR4, and a 4th gen NVMe m.2 SSD, and while I'd struggle to get 60fps in most games on Windows 11, I pull down 90-144+ fps (144Hz display) regularly. I truly haven't been happier gaming on Linux.
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>>108837915
>This would be the third time I reset the OS because I installed a bunch of wrong apps, or ones that didn't work, and I have no idea how to remove them
I don't understand people like you. Reinstalling the os would take much more time and effort than just asking an AI how to uninstall those programs.
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>>108837983
>asking an AI how to uninstall those programs.
Believe me I did. I installed Liberewolf through an exe because I wanted to copy my profiles from Windows, until I found out I can't. No matter what folder I put it, or what ini I edited, it just wouldn't read it. Then I said 'fuck it' I'll just remove it and install it through flatpack for easier update. Do you think I was able to remove it? No, I couldn't
I asked AI to tell me how, it didn't know. I asked for console commands, it didn't work. I tried installing it through console command and removing it, hoping the uninstallation would remove it, again, it didn't. I installed discover to uninstall it, it didn't detect it on my machine. I even deleted the exe folder, and I was still able to launch it from start menu
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>>108837915
If you want to use the terminal to uninstall packages you can run
pacman -Q
to list all the installed packages and
sudo pacman -Rns package-name
to uninstall the package.

>>108838012
> I installed Liberewolf through an exe
Did you use wine to run the Librewolf installer? .exe files are Windows executables and do not work on Linux. You shouldn't try to run Windows .exe files if the program exists natively on Linux like it does with Librewolf. The only exception to that is games. If you want installation instructions you should look for instructions for Arch Linux since that is what CachyOS is based on or go for Flatpak like you did later on.

My best guess would be that the installer installed Librewolf into the .wine directory. You can ask the AI how to locate it. Or you can try running
wine uninstaller
in the terminal.
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>>108838168
>Did you use wine to run the Librewolf installer?
Yes. I installed it through an EXE because I wanted to transfer my profile from windows to linux. I have a lot of extensions and saved passwords. But now, the program is basically stuck on my machine until I reset it
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>>108838327
Profile has nothing to do with how you installed the browser. You can transfer a firefox profile from your windows pc into a linux pc without doing anything special. The only difference is the location of the profile on the pc.
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>>108838327
In that case you can either uninstall it with wine uninstaller or delete the librewolf folder inside the .wine/drive_c folder. Folders that start with a dot are hidden by default but you can toggle it on inside the file broswer. If you do it that way you might need to remove the start menu shortcut manually. And the browser profile should just work on Linux like the other anon said.
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>>108838344
>>108838397
Yeah that's the thing, I tried putting the profile on the fake drive c made by wine and the github location that's in .ver (i believe it was called) and neither of them registered my profiles. Am I meant to edit something or am I putting them in the wrong location?
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>>108838422
Your backed-up profile folder is called something like "xxxxxxxx.default" right? Just copy the contents of that folder into your current Librewolf profile folder and overwrite everything. You can find the location of the profile by opening about:support in the Librewolf address bar and going to "Profile Directory" and then clicking on "Open Directory".
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/back-and-restore-information-firefox-profiles

But you shouldn't use the Windows .exe version and just use the Linux native version or the Flatpak. The steps are exactly the same.
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>>108837915

I tried octopi and shelly but i prefer just using pacman for updates. I also don't like how AUR helpers don't work unless you have added your user account to the sudo list.
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>>108838827
octopi and shelly are wrappers for pacman nigga
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>>108830807
sold your trash njewdia card and go amgay.
for pirated games, lutris



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